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New Mycology Vendor has GordoTEK kits, I put them to the test (Pan Cyan and Natalensis) RESULTS

Don't get me wrong, in general I'm a do-it-yourselfer and see the value in a person learning to do every step from scratch, but on the other hand, I absolutely recognize that for many people, gathering all ingredients, mixing, hydrating, and pressure cooking for hours, can be either a daunting task, a major challenge, or just too much of a time commitment. Some people also may just want to do a few grows and don't want to invest in a pressure cooker or bags of ingredients they may never use up. It can be a whole lot easier to use a kit, and my goal is to make this hobby as accessible as possible to a wide variety of people who are serious about pursuing this path.

In the past I've worked with one major vendor, a good partnership and I'm not severing ties nor do I wish them to take offense, but its been a bit difficult to communicate with them and they haven't offered an exact match to my latest TEK (despite my requests). Enter a new small family owned business, MidwestFreshMushrooms, this vendor has actually been a patron here first, and is a teacher by day who has long had a deep love of mycology, he has grown many gourmet species. Recently he had the idea of turning his hobby into a business, and I think he choose a great way to start. After investing in the necessary equipment to scale, they created both a complete kit matching my TEK calling it the Gordo Special which includes the recommended totes, heater, screen, enough substrate for a full size grow (8lbs!), casing, and grains. They also have a GordoTEK Special REFILL Kit that has enough substrate for a full sized grow (8 lbs!) plus the casing, AND sterile grains with injection port. And finally they also sell just the recommended substrate too if that's all you need, which is based on my quantities and ingredients (for a full size grow, get 8lbs, for a half size grow which is probably plenty for most people, you can get the 4lbs size).

So anyway, as I would with any vendor, I required them to send me product to test, I used their substrate to do both pan cyan and natalensis grows (I used the same substrate for both grows which is coir based with manure and some additional supplements as per my published recipe). The instructions did recommend adding some water but I wanted to try it "as is" just to see what would happen, and the results were a resounding success with rapid colonization and multiple contam free flushes for both species (I did water heavily after casing). The 8 pound version was enough to properly fill the large totes used in my latest easy pan cyan TEK. For a species that likes a deeper substrate, the quantity was also perfect for the slightly smaller 28qt sterilite totes sold at big box stores (but natalensis grows fine at the same depth as pan cyans and I think you will get higher biological efficiency using the bigger tote).

Here are some pictures of the results of the two grows using MidwestFreshMushrooms substrate:

Pan Cyan (I used the long totes recommended in my latest TEK with heat and screen, daily misting by hand only, got 5 nice flushes with zero signs of contamination even after the 5th flush before I stuck it on my compost pile):

(was able to make a large number of excellent prints)

And Natalensis (used the same MidwestFreshMushrooms substrate!):

(Natalensis illuminated by the purple lid of this tote on a bright sunny day 😇, single tote was used, no heater and no screen, just your basic simple unmodified tote grow with a cracked lid and daily misting by hand, its currently on its 4th flush, no signs of contams whatsoever)

I whole heartedly recommend and endorse this vendor! I have received their products personally and tested them with absolute perfect results and zero contams and I have high confidence that they will please you too. High quality, attention to detail, perfect match to my recipes, perfect sterilization, correct volume and weight. Using my links also supports the channel, so double win. And for what its worth, I was so impressed by this vendor I have already ordered more of their products myself, which are currently on the way. I think I may have hit the point where even I don't always want to spend all day making substrate and stinking up the house for hours at a time 😂 🔥.

If you try this vendor, be sure to leave a review, they should have total accountability and sink on swim on their own merit. I also want to point out that if you are going to compare these guys to other vendors, keep in mind that they are shipping very heavy items unlike most vendors, this means their margins are thin, but you get the real deal full sizes you really wanted. They also have a variety of gourmet mushroom grow kits (already colonized substrate) that many people may be interested in, and other items you may want to check out.

Also wanted to point out that someone who wanted to simplify the process of growing could order a spore syringe (this vendor has both TTBVI and Estero my two favorite pan cyans) or liquid culture syringe (I'm looking for a trusted vendor to recommend) and just inject the grains that come with the kit, wait for colonization, dump the substrate from the kit into the tote that also comes with the kit, dump the colonized grains on top of that, mix, cover with tote lid, and wait for colonization (preferably in warm temps 75-85F or using the heater that comes with the kit). After full colonization remove the lid, apply the casing that comes with the kit, spray casing heavily with water, add screen that comes with the kit, spray the casing and screen 2-3 times a day and you should see pins within a week.  Doesn't get much easier than that (it is possible to get a harvest start to finish in 3 weeks). Full write and with details, pics, and video is here.

You could also make your own spore syringe of course.

p.s. If MidwestFreshMushrooms is sold out and you can't wait for them to restock, this is the other vendor I partner with who sells a slightly different (and slightly smaller) kit: https://www.patreon.com/posts/63406767

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New Mycology Vendor has GordoTEK kits, I put them to the test (Pan Cyan and Natalensis) RESULTS

Comments

I used this sub and casing and had amazing results. Been fruiting for over a month!

Mr Fantasy

BRO i feel this to my BONES!! FRFR

Austin Taylor

I wish I could keep dog hairs outta my deems

Wayne

Just placed an order! Great sub mix

David

Overlay is active

Botanis

I am beginning to feel very frustrated with P. Nat. But anyway, in my third attempt to grow a tub with fruiting bodies on top, I decided to score the overlay with a sterilized butter knife in a grid pattern and laid down a sterile casing layer (non nutritious). This probably wont work either. My F.A.E. is very good, so that's not the source of the overlay problem ... I think. Who knows?! F*ck this species!

Scott B.

My P.Natalensis tub is growing far too much Mycelial overlay. Two times so far. This third time attempt, I used 3 quart jars of grain spawn, mixed with at least 1 Kilogram of CVG. The tub is too big, so I had to make a large amount of CVG.

Scott B.

Another great experience with midwestfreshmushrooms! Thanks for all the Grain/Poo and Gordo Kits!! The Bulk LC took off quickly and looks really clean 🧼 I was glad to find a mixer already in the jar so I didn’t have to risk contamination opening it to add one😎 Excellent customer service like usual 👏

Lee

If you purchased the Gordotek kit from Midwest, and are having issues with your grains being too dry, I'd highly recommend reaching out to him. Robert was very quick to respond to me about my grains being too dry as well. He is also willing to send me a new hydrated bag with express shipping as well. He stated that he hired someone that didn't properly hydrate the bags and packaged customers orders incorrectly. Even after explaining that, he still took full responsibility for not inspecting everything before sending it out. That shows a lot of integrity, in my eyes. It sounds like he's been experiencing quite a lot is mishaps since starting his business, but I believe he is coming from a good place and I wish him prosperity in the future!

Jonathan Perreault

working on getting a flow hood, so i don't get floating hairs in my LCs.

American Tj

I’ve got the kit and I’m trying my first big grow. Everything was looking fine until I cased it. Trich showed up the next day. I’m thinking I should have PC’d the casing as it’s been sitting for over a month while the grain and g2s got going. I normally just to shoe boxes but the videos made it look easy. Silly me.

Mr.Transistor

Texas powerman, i would love to hear about your pan cyan grow if that's what your doing, let me know, how you did it, i always struggle with 2 qt jars and idk whether to go small or go big tbh, i just PF Tek everything.

American Tj

That sounds correct. The initial batch of refills are a mixed grain bag that was a bit dry. I ended up adding 30ml of water with 5ml of lc. It was just sitting until I added the 30 mils. It probably could have gone to 40ml. But it took off fast. The substrate came in 3 bags, 2 small ones and 1 large. It shouldn’t smell like anything except dirt. It’s plenty when mixed with the two bags of spawn to fill the tub with the layer like Gordotek shows in his videos. The casing is in small bag, you just need a thin layer. I just had to get some standoffs for the heater so the water would circulate a little better.

Mr.Transistor

I’ve set the water bath temp at 75. It’s colonizing well. I’ll be casing it in a few days. With all the rain since the hurricane humidity hasn’t been a problem. The house is at 50% so I use a heavy spray bottle instead of a hair mister. All my mono tubs need a lot of extra mists to get the fruiting.

Mr.Transistor

Hey, powerman i love your comments on Edward Grand's youtube, yeah since Texas has dryer air, i think we just have to experiment with it, i get alot of contam here too in texas.

American Tj

All the grain bags I received were super dry with a ton of powder in the bottom. I used 5ccs of Pan Cyan LC and waited 2 weeks - nothing. I added 20ccs of sterilized LC fluid (not culture, just the juice) and another 2 weeks - still nothing. So, I used my own grain bags with the same Pan Cyan LC and got my bags colonized. I’m sending them to bulk today with the hydrated substrate that came with my order … none of the substrate appears to be manure based - there is no smell of manure in any bag whatsoever. Additionally, ordered two ‘refill kits’ and received 4 small bags that I will assume are the substrate and one large bag that might be a casing layer??? It does not seem like I got what I ordered.

Lounge

There are quite a few guys that have a few TTBVI grows under their belt in the community chat. Probably get quicker answers in there.

Hypo Luxa

What Temp is everyone running the water bath at? I set it to 82 and the top of the cake was at 82 in just a couple of hours. In the video he shows the water bath being that warm but the surface of the sub being closer to 72. I want to encourage good growth but I’ve always found that any contamination will rep through this above 78f. Do we shoot for under 75 degrees or do you run hotter?

texaspowerman

I watched the video a couple of times. He was talking about it being in a cold dry room. The water temp was 82 but the surface temp of the sub was 72. My house is 73 and I can get it to pretty much any temp in just a few hours as the substrate is so thin. It also shows me how sloped my slab is. I live in a crooked house. 😁

Mr.Transistor

Now I’m trying to figure out the optimal temperature to run the water bath at. When I set it up it rapidly got to 85f. That just sounds like the temperature to encourage a bacterial soup. I’ve turned it down to 78. But that still seems high. I know they are tropical but do know what to shoot for.

Mr.Transistor

Mine were the same, ended up using 30cc LC in each and they’re still pretty slow.

Hypo Luxa

The set of bags I got in the refill kit could use a bit higher hydration, I haven’t tried the rye that came with the kit yet, the refill got here first so the got inoculated first. I ended up adding between 15 and 20ml of water to the bags to get the mycelium moving along. It was being very sluggish compared to my usual spawn bags. They additional hydration sped them right up.

texaspowerman

Much encouragement and strength, my friend.

javier lopez garcia

Hi all, I have some questions: I have used Gordon's genetics and it has been going great but I have other ingredients more at hand: - ⁠Which compost is better, compost from organic vegetable matter? Manure compost? Cofertilized with a mixture of both? - ⁠For the substrate mix, can compost be substituted for manure? Compost of plant origin? Manure compost or a mixture of both. - ⁠ I would be very grateful for your answers, it is very important for me. Thanks community!

javier lopez garcia

Okay!!! I just ordered my Gordo Special, a refill kit, some sterilized grain, sterilized substrate, and 2 liquid culture kits. I'm new to mycology. I've only been studying it since March 2024. My best friend, soul mate, center of my whole world (wife) passed away in February after a two year battle with lung cancer. And omg was the last 90 days brutally ugly. Then my father passed away in March 2024. Talk about my entire world wobbling it seemed... I needed a new hobby, one that I hadn't done before with my wife, and we were like two peas in a pod having shared everything together. From computer gaming, fishing and camping to cross stitch, gardening you name it we probably done it or tried it. But not mycology. A friend got me to try micro dosing which helped me to return from the depths of my depression. She also suggested giving mycology a try. So here I am. Not only is micro dosing extremely beneficial to me, but I've found mycology to be so intriguing. Enough so I've sunk a fair bit of money into this new hobby of mine. I'm 59 years old and semi retired. I replaced on old worn out canned with a new All American and I just received an air flow hood yesterday though it was damaged in shipping. It works but the casing was dented somewhat. I gotta say Gordo's and Willy's video libraries have been a wonderful teaching resource. I've spent hundreds of hours being taught all about mycology. Infact I've got a notebook mostly filled with notes. Any who I better bounce. I want to try out my new air flow hood incubating some agar dishes and I wanna PC some liquid culture jars I'm putting together. Everyone take care and be good.

IOUPhil

Maybe you are thinking of MidWest Mushrooms or something? We don’t sell any heating pads, nor do we sell any humidifiers. The only thing I remotely close to resembling them is an aquarium heater for the totes.

Mr. Shroom Extraordinaire

Opps, hit the cr and got a new message. Well, as to humidifying containers, I've found it is easier to just put in an empty food container and fill it with water. Does a pretty good job, if you want more humidity, use a bigger container. You can cut humidity by covering part of the water with aluminum foil, like a little boat or something that floats.

Corndodger

I've ordered a few things from Midwest, but have had zero luck with two of their products, their "heating pads" and their "humidifier" - a glass jar with stones and some form of cotton on top. The heating pads are rated somewhere around 28 watts. They give the same heat as a 30 watt light bulb and won't raise the temp of much anything (like a medium sized container) you're trying to keep warm over them. Boo! The humidifier must be good for something, but not for maintaining humidity in your mushroom farm. I found it'd do no better than raise room ambient humidity by 17% - or less, mostly less, in my Sterilite containers.. Double boo.

Corndodger

Appreciate the kind words! If you have any issues at all with your products received, do t hesitate to reach out and we will fix it asap.

Mr. Shroom Extraordinaire

I appreciate the business!

Mr. Shroom Extraordinaire

Much appreciated! I will keep working to get better too. Freebies going out in the mail this week to people who have already ordered.

Mr. Shroom Extraordinaire

Midwestfreshmushrooms is an absolute pleasure to deal with, I would highly recommend, if you don't have the time, space resources that this man does then do yourself a favor and order from him. The already made products are well worth the price, high quality and delivered discreetly to your door. It really doesn't get any better, so much time saved. I totally respect all the work you do to provide us with these products and Gordo for introducing me to the store I will keep getting supplies from! Support this business!

Mushinist

Thanks for the reply; I'm getting ready to place an order so I will connect with you then!

Wazatron

Absolutely blown away by MidwestFreshMushrooms!! I have never dealt with someone so nice, if they have anything I’m looking for that is where I will be getting it from now on!! They are awesome 😎

Lee

Everything boxed up and all orders not already sent or received are getting picked up by UPS and USPS tomorrow. I have also updated our current inventory on the site. Please don’t hesitate to message or email for bulk orders or special requests at midwestfreshmushrooms@gmail.com Thank you everyone for your business! Gratefully, Rob Roane, Owner MidWest Fresh Mushrooms

Mr. Shroom Extraordinaire

Survived the initial surge and all the mini disasters one could possibly expect, but worked through our growing pains, and have already learned a lot about being a new small business. ALL orders not already received are getting boxed up today and UPS and USPS will be picking up tomorrow! You should have had tracking numbers emailed. Will be sending freebies to EVERYONE who has already ordered for your patience while we dealt with disasters (both man made and natural) to finally get caught up. We are beyond grateful for your business and going forward, we will offer no more products than we can ship out in five to seven days and sooner once we have more reliable help hired (so far so so good on the latest hire though).

Mr. Shroom Extraordinaire

If you cut the top of your grain bag off, you can drop a piece of your colonized agar into the bag, and then impulse seal it. I strongly recommend doing this in front of a still air box or in front of a laminar flow hood (better if available). Once your grain is colonized, just follow the tek and mix it with your substrate in your tote. Don’t forget to clean your tote first and try to send to bulk in as sterile of an environment as possible. A week later after colonization, it should be ready for casing. It will then be fairly contamination resistant. Just don’t forget to really spray your casing layer, keep it damp, and make sure your screen is sprayed as well. If you add a note or send an email, we happily throw in an agar plate with a refill kit if requested.

Mr. Shroom Extraordinaire

You are right. It’s kinda tricky since we pre-seal our bags. We do this so there is little chance for contamination when we cook at 121°C for three hours. No need to worry about a vacuum being created when it cools. We have to purge all air completely and tape to make sure the flaps don’t move. We then offset each row filter side up so the steam can gas out and prevent bags from blowing. Now that I finally have good unicorn bags, I can trust the filters to be top notch and I have figured out how to use less tape. I’d also gladly remove it for anyone who asks. Thanks for the business and after ALL orders are shipped out this weekend, I’ll be sending some freebies in the mail to all customers who have ordered.

Mr. Shroom Extraordinaire

Thanks for doing this. Got my kit and everything looks great. Just use a bit less tape on the grain bag. It was hard to tell where the tape stopped and the bag started. The grains already going. Looking forward to the grow.

Mr.Transistor

Hello all - I'm hoping this is an ok spot for this question, it's a bit of an overlap with what is available with the MidWest refill / kit and the GordoTEK method for using agar plates. The refill kit comes with "4 lbs sterilized grain spawn (either rye or rye/millet will be sent) with an injection port". I have been rehearsing and planning to go from agar cuttings direct to grain. Would it be... incorrect to expect to be able to do this with what is provided in the kit? The plan would be to follow the TEK advice, take a few cuttings from the plate, and quickly and carefully open the jar(s) to add the cuttings to them in front of a laminar flow hood (and closing the jar back up, of course). Any advice or thoughts would be appreciated!

Wazatron

I just posted that I am pausing new orders until Wednesday so I can focus on getting my current customers their orders first. All my totes, heaters, screens, etc don’t do me much good if I’m waiting on substrate and grain. I should have all my orders through last Sunday out by this Sunday. As SOON as I am caught up, I have bubble mailers I will be sending everyone with free Dr Myc’s MGP+ and a coupon code for your next order. I’m working on hiring dependable help that shows up for work and don’t anticipate this happening again and ship times taking more than three days, as I won’t ever list all inventory as available. I appreciate your understanding and promise I will find a way to make this right. And for those of you who have received your stuff, please don’t hesitate to contact me if you have any issues at all: midwestfreshmushrooms@gmail.com Thank you, Rob MidWest Fresh Mushrooms

Mr. Shroom Extraordinaire

If you’re on mobile, pick the chat bubble looking icon at the bottom. Second from the left. Then at the top right pick the envelope looking icon.

Hypo Luxa

Hey Gordo? How do I DM you for a spore pri t? I joined and all that, but can't find a DM option?

Justin Stadtfeld

It’s been a journey but I am going to be taking our first run to UPS and USPS. Going to take a few trips but should be caught up on all orders within a couple of days. Thank you everyone for your patience and patronage!

Mr. Shroom Extraordinaire

I hope doing the right thing doesn't come back to bite me but a message I am currently sending to each customer that ordered on Monday and Tuesday. I have never been this sleep deprived or worked this hard but I couldn't live with sending out something not up to my standards: I want to thank you for your business and sincerely apologize for the delay in getting your order out.to you. I was expecting good demand and thought I had sufficient inventory but the response has been overwhelming (in a good way). I am not one to make excuses but I believe in full transparency and hope to earn your business in the future. I have already learned a valuable lesson in business and that is to not to make your whole inventory available without substantial reserves.. I ran out of the unicorn bags that I usually use and ordered some new ones off of Amazon. I made my substrate and grain like I always do and carefully expunged my bags of air, sealed them, taped them down, and then loaded them into the autoclave filter side up in offset rows so the filter patch isn't covered and they can gas off. It is the exact same way I observed them do it at Myco Labs to help ensure sterility by not creating a vacuum once the bags start to cool. It's a process that works and my contamination rates went close to near zero after switching from just sealing the bags in front of my flow hood a short distance with the so-called 'seal" created by letting them cool down. Well it turns out that the thick 6 mil bags' impulse seal came loose when I was starting to fill orders for both substrate and grain. In all my years of work in the field, it isn't something I have ever had happen before and the only thing different was the bags.. If all I cared about was money, I would have just sealed them up, pasteurized them, and been done. I couldn't live with myself if I did that, as I take pride in my craftsmanship and wouldn't ship out anything I wouldn't use myself, even if it causes me great hardship... I ended up tossing out over 140 lbs of grain spawn and 180 lbs of substrate. I teach Driver Ed part time at Iowa Western Community College (just put in my notice due to being overscheduled and having no backup) but have been working the last two days with no more than 2 hours of sleep a night.to get caught up on replacing my inventory with my usual unicorn bags. I finished the grain replacements and will be done with substrate tomorrow (will be working through the night). I will be able to ship out your order and drop it off at a UPS partner and give you the tracking number by Sunday evening.at the absolute latest. Please feel free to email me the next time you place an order with us over $25 and I will include two 2 lb bags of grain spawn, 4 lbs of substrate, or a 5 pack of agar on me for the inconvenience. Once again, I do apologize for what happened but please give us a chance to impress with the quality of our products and take solace knowing that I am willing to take a loss vs give you an inferior product. Respectfully, Robert M. Roane MidWest Fresh Mushrooms

Mr. Shroom Extraordinaire

Thanks, hopefully MidwestFreshMushrooms will ramp up his inventory quickly, he was a little caught off guard by the surge. But thanks also for reminding people that my original vendor partner MIdwestGrowKits is still a good choice too: https://www.patreon.com/posts/63406767

GordoTEK

i just checked. they were sold out as of yest but itbsays they have 14 in stock atm.

Gonther

Didn’t think there would be such an amazing initial response but many tubs and very large boxes have been ordered and taking pre-orders to ship next week.

Mr. Shroom Extraordinaire

An amazing initial order. More are available for preorder to ship out next week.

Mr. Shroom Extraordinaire

Supply order arriving next Wednesday. Complete GordoTek grow kits and refill kits are available for pre-order but won’t ship until next week due to selling out on day one and getting those shipped out by this weekend.

Mr. Shroom Extraordinaire

A little birdie told me that they will have all orders currently ordered as of Tuesday evening shipped out by Saturday at the very latest with tracking numbers sent with some freebies included, a discount code emailed for their next order, and will be adding another 30 Complete GordoTek Grow Kits on Monday at 7PM CST, with numerous refill kits available as well. The owner was stuck teaching an evening court ordered college class this week (which he just resigned from) and is working around the clock practically, and has placed a huge inventory order to keep up with demand. Sales far exceeded expectations and HE WILL be sure to make certain supply meets demand.

Mr. Shroom Extraordinaire

You’re really making this all so available in all the most quality ways. Thank you Gordo! I’ve had my prints for a couple months now while I’ve gotten the hang of things with other varieties. Just picked up my poopoo and I’m ready to start my research on agar. That ttbvi thread with personal experience quotes got me HYPED!

Doc_Boyd

Welp. That sold out fast. For those who missed out, Midwest growkits sells a "grasslovers" kit that consists of 6lbs of pasteurized substrate (sun aged horse manure, chopped straw, vermiculite, coir and ph buffers) 3 heavy duty aluminum baking trays with clear dome lids, and more than enough casing (peat moss/vermiculite/gypsum). The casing comes in a unicorn bag and is dry and needs to be hydrated and sterilized before use, making the casing shelf life less of an issue. The whole kit is $34.99 US and they do ship outside of the states. It would be a simple matter to either use the substrate as is in a double sterelite bin/water heater combo with window screen, or else place the 3 aluminum trays inside of the upper bin (possibly with hydrated perlite between trays for additional humidity) if you intend to use gordo's second pan tek rather than his first. They also sell 2-packs of sterilized grain bags, either rye or a 5-grain blend.

Dylan Young

Very cool. As expected from Gordo the king

TDog

I was planning on going all out and my problem is just time. I’ve had your prints for a few weeks but it feels like years! I’ve just got an itch and it needs to be scratched! I’m still going to do agar I’ve got 120 plates on the way, I will eventually try my hand at making my own when I have time. I’ll definitely come back and let everyone know how it goes 👍 Thanks for all the knowledge, you’ve really made things incredibly easy to understand.

Lee

Outstanding as always sir!

Mountain Myco

Both kits are sold out already! Maybe the didn’t expect this level of demand!!!

Baron Heinrich

Sold out already!

Tiffany Logan

👍🙏❤️ I figured there are a lot of people like you, who want to give it all a try, but could use an easier starting place instead of doing everything from scratch hunting and gathering supplies. Let us know how it works out!

GordoTEK

Technically, if its properly sealed and sterile, it should have essentially an indefinite shelf life although its always recommended to use it as soon as you can. The filter patches allow some air exchange, so it is possible a contam could eventually get through. I'd recommend putting a good strong tape over the filter patch since you don't need or want air exchange for your sterile substrate, this will ensure it remains sterile. Another option is to store in a freezer, just remove from the freezer 2 days before you plan to use it (you could probably even microwave it to thaw).

GordoTEK

Ordered👍 thanks for the info GordoTEK. Just want a quickie for my first grow before I take out a second mortgage to build a Lab 🧪 😬

Lee

This is fantastic. I've been waiting and watching about Nats. Definitely gonna give it a go now thanks! 🙏

Josh Andrews

Any sense of how soon after receiving one ought to use it (“expiration date”)? I didn’t see that info on the site (doesn’t mean it isn’t there)

Pierre Robert

I'm not sure if they ship outside of the U.S. Its not a matter of safety, its just that these are heavy items and the cost to ship from the US to most counties is extremely high to the point where it just isn't practical. I hope one day the international shipping problem improves.

GordoTEK

I probably would have gone this route, had it been available at the time. Now my supply will happily outlive me :)

DRS

In which countries can they safely ship there grow kits ?

ADNAN

Thanks, Gordo. This will definitely be my next scale down kit purchase.

Brad


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