[D'sP] Messing With Paths - Chapter 385
Added 2024-08-02 12:54:57 +0000 UTCDoyle, ‘So, now that I’ve decided on what to focus on, do I need to actually do anything? Because as far as I can tell, there isn’t really a way to follow through.’
Ally, ‘The decision itself is the important part. From now on, when receiving per level gains, they will be weighted towards your path for the very reason that they are your path. Anyway, pull up those paths again and we can take a better look at what you have available.’
{Points: 79
Class: Dungeon Core III 100/100, Awakened Dungeon Core II 10/10
Location [1/2 I, 1/1 II]: Heritage Kobold Community I 15/15, Communities of Myriad Heritages II 30/30
Completed: Goat Supremacy 20/20, Energy Well I 3/3, Commanding Subordinates 12/12, Ageless Queens 15/15, Earth’s First Home of the Limit Breakers I 1/1, Biomes Aplenty 5/5, Potion Dispensary 10/10, Elemental Animals 5/5, Cows for Milk 12/12, Vegetation Variety 20/20, Divine Border 1/1, Know Your Enemies 10/10, Pathfinder, [UNIQUE] 1/1, Community Driven 10/10, Monster Rancher 50/50, Community Builder 30/30, Extra Accommodations 75/75, Energy Well II 6/6, Kobold Community II 30/30, Engraver 5/5, Boss Builder 50/50, Energy Well III 18/18, Monster Rancher II 100/100, Fluid Instancing 100/100
Started [1/3]: [TRINITY] 31/1000
Available: Awakened Dungeon Core III 10/100, Awakened Spatial Dungeon core I 0/1, Dungeon Core of Awakened Intent I 0/1, Axe Sharpener 0/5, Fire’s Flying 0/7, All the Potions 0/60, Clan Head 0/25, Five Cornered Square Initiate 0/100, Raising The Floor 0/100, Into The Infinite 0/60, Floors Within Floors 0/10, Phrenic Friend 0/120, PsiBane I 0/200, PsiBoon I 0/200, Deep Rules 0/500, Time Will Wait 0/500, Voidborn Expansionist 0/330, KinBane 0/120, Godly Diplomat 0/600, Heavenly Gatekeeper 0/1005, Mural Mayhem 0/20, Elemental Animals (Aquatic) 0/5, Swarm Tactics 0/10, Golem Crafter 0/60, Expedition Patron 0/25, Kobold Salvaging 0/40, Quests At A Distance 0/50, Scrapyard 0/50, Quest Taker I 0/50, Proto-Array Maker 0/10, Proto-Formation Maker 0/10, Rune Maker 0/50, Magitech Artificer 0/30, Magitech Designer 0/50, Rune Progenitor 0/100}
Doyle, ‘As messy as ever. Let’s do some cleanup on it. I don’t believe the system won’t let me move some things around and so on.
‘Okay, first stack up all the completed paths that are just upgrades of one another. Then I’ll sort through the available paths and filter out the ones I’m not likely ever going to bother with. They can hang out in an archive or some such. And that should do it.’
Ally, ‘I don’t know how much good that will do. Sure, you’ve manipulated what is being displayed, but it will go back to normal next time you open it.’
Doyle, ‘Well that’s stupid and I don’t believe a True Immortal would make it that way. There should be a method of keeping it like this.’
Ally, ‘Don’t get me wrong, there are ways to do that, but they require special system items to catalyze.’
Doyle, ‘But I’m a dungeon core, I can’t exactly go out and find those things. More than likely, I can just set it myself with a little bit of energy on my part. Maybe if I insert some quintessence?’
Ally shrugs, ‘If you’re going to make quintessence, you might as well instead put it towards paying off your debt. You’re kind of close. Under fifty is something I figure you could manage if you focus on it every once in a while for a couple years.
‘Most dungeons get stuck with it for so long because they’ve either racked up a massive amount of debt or don’t know to pay it back and so depend on what they get for making new floors.’
Doyle, ‘I figure something like this isn’t going to take much. If anything, it sort of feels like the barest of wisps of the stuff should be able to lock it down in the new format. Though that feels mostly to be the result of me not really changing much of anything. Just some reorganization of a single screen.
‘I bet those special system items people use are just a money sink. It feels like I wouldn’t even need a coppers worth of quintessence. Which isn’t nothing, but all things considered, cheap.’
Ally throws her hands up, ‘A copper piece he says! As a replacement for an item that normally requires thousands of a coin type, I don’t even know the name of which is worth at least a couple of magnitudes more than gold. An item without a proper market value for which we only know the approximate cost because occasionally the system will offer them on a limited basis. An item which you could not buy with your entire solar system. A copper?’
Doyle, ‘Less than a copper. Though from what I’m feeling it needs to be provided by one of the two involved parties getting their status panel changed. In other words, either the system pays or you have to pay for your own and you need to manipulate it personally. No using a device to move the quintessence or anything.
‘Also, it feels like I could have always done this, which would have been nice to know earlier. Though I suspect this is the result of my recent foray into unlocking my dungeon instincts. So that’s another thing on the pile of useful information being kept from people who are ritually transformed into a dungeon core.’
Ally, ‘Well, I guess give it a try. No harm in that and if it doesn’t work, just throw the quintessences at the debt.’
Of course, before bothering with gathering quintessence, Doyle attempted it by just breaking down a copper coin that got missed by someone on the sixth floor. This did not work and went a long way to explaining why the system sold such services so dearly. While in theory it only took a wisp of quintessence, it didn’t work with external quintessence. You had to use some that was generated by you and had not been taken out at any point. So while the system had unimaginable reserves of the stuff, most of that was harvested from coins and other external sources.
Ally shrugged at this, and Doyle settled in to gather some fresh quintessence. Which was weird, since he is gathering the quintessence from outside of himself, but that differed from gaining it from something else. Anyway, after a while, Doyle felt something click. ‘Okay, I think I got it. Let’s see what happened.’
{Points: 79
Class: Dungeon Core III 100/100, Awakened Dungeon Core II 10/10
Location [1/2 I, 1/1 II]: Heritage Kobold Community I 15/15, Communities of Myriad Heritages II 30/30
Completed: Goat Supremacy 20/20, Energy Well I 3/3 II 6/6 III 18/18, Commanding Subordinates 12/12, Ageless Queens 15/15, Earth’s First Home of the Limit Breakers I 1/1, Biomes Aplenty 5/5, Potion Dispensary 10/10, Elemental Animals 5/5, Cows for Milk 12/12, Vegetation Variety 20/20, Divine Border 1/1, Know Your Enemies 10/10, Pathfinder, [UNIQUE] 1/1, Community Driven 10/10, Monster Rancher I 50/50 II 100/100, Community Builder 30/30, Extra Accommodations 75/75, Kobold Community II 30/30, Engraver 5/5, Boss Builder 50/50, Fluid Instancing 100/100
Started [1/3]: [TRINITY] 31/1000
Available Classes and Locations: Awakened Dungeon Core III 10/100, Awakened Spatial Dungeon core I 0/1, Dungeon Core of Awakened Intent I 0/1
Available: Five Cornered Square Initiate 0/100, Raising The Floor 0/100, Into The Infinite 0/60, Floors Within Floors 0/10, PsiBoon I 0/200, Deep Rules 0/500, Time Will Wait 0/500, Voidborn Expansionist 0/330, Mural Mayhem 0/20, Swarm Tactics 0/10, Golem Crafter 0/60, Expedition Patron 0/25, Kobold Salvaging 0/40, Quests At A Distance 0/50, Scrapyard 0/50, Quest Taker 0/50, Proto-Array Maker 0/10, Proto-Formation Maker 0/10, Rune Maker 0/50, Magitech Artificer 0/30, Magitech Designer 0/50, Rune Progenitor 0/100
Archived: Axe Sharpener 0/5, Fire’s Flying 0/7, All the Potions 0/60, Clan Head 0/25, Phrenic Friend 0/120, PsiBane I 0/200, KinBane 0/120, Godly Diplomat 0/600, Heavenly Gatekeeper 0/1005, Elemental Animals (Aquatic) 0/5}
Doyle nodded after looking over the new display. ‘Much better, though the available section is still a bit cluttered, though mostly because it has a bunch of Paths for the recent stuff that I left there just to keep it in mind. Now let’s see what it looks like if we only display the available.’
{Points: 79
Available: Five Cornered Square Initiate 0/100, Raising The Floor 0/100, Into The Infinite 0/60, Floors Within Floors 0/10, PsiBoon I 0/200, Deep Rules 0/500, Time Will Wait 0/500, Voidborn Expansionist 0/330, Mural Mayhem 0/20, Swarm Tactics 0/10, Golem Crafter 0/60, Expedition Patron 0/25, Kobold Salvaging 0/40, Quests At A Distance 0/50, Scrapyard 0/50, Quest Taker 0/50, Proto-Array Maker 0/10, Proto-Formation Maker 0/10, Rune Maker 0/50, Magitech Artificer 0/30, Magitech Designer 0/50, Rune Progenitor 0/100}
Ally, ‘Well, that is much more concise. Though I do question some paths you set aside.’
Doyle shrugged, ‘As a dungeon core, this modification isn’t that hard. If I later decide to move stuff around, well, I’ll just move it around. Though I really have to question the developer of this system. They could have definitely made the interface a lot easier to adjust. For instance, I’m pretty certain that any new class paths I get will automatically populate the class path section. And speaking of them, I find it weird that I don’t have any new options there.’
Ally, ‘You haven’t done anything the system wants a dungeon reward for in that way. Sure, you’ve done some dungeon things, but most of them aren’t something you’d base a dungeon class on. Though I’m sure you want a bit more why.
‘Well, of course there are the golems you’ve made. We’ve already gone over that the system hates when dungeons go crazy with them, so that’s not going to show up as a class. You’ve sent some monsters out of your dungeon. Another thing the system would prefer you didn’t do too much or. And of course, the rune stuff.
‘Those are different. I’m sure the system would love to give you a class or location for that. Except you haven’t actually used them in your dungeon yet. If you start integrating them, then maybe a “Runed Dungeon Core” class or a “Runic Birthplace” location path will show up.’
Doyle, ‘I guess that is fair enough on the rune stuff. Anyway, let’s focus on what I do have right now.’
Ally, ‘So 79 points and way too many places to spend them?’
Doyle, ‘Yes, so let’s try and narrow it down.’
Ally, ‘Well, the progenitor path will likely have some cool benefits.’
Doyle nods, ‘True, though I am tempted by the new kobold option. I’ve got a soft spot for them.’
Ally points at a couple other paths, ‘Going back for Mural Mayhem or Raising The Floor might be worthwhile for our current situation. And of course any of the spatial based paths, what with you being a spatial dungeon.’
Doyle, ‘I can’t remember what caused the floor one to show up? If we even knew in the first place. I mostly kept it around because one interpretation of it would be very useful. However, I don’t want to gamble on that right now.
‘The other also sounds fun and I definitely see some potential there. However, at the moment I really only have one mural and no one has noticed it yet. I mean, really? I used to be a human so I get it, but are we really that allergic to looking up? I figured someone would have more carefully examined the ceiling!’
Ally shrugged, ‘The only area where they get a good view of it is the open area full of danger. Plus, the entire sphere is spinning so as to make the eerie noises with those strange dungeon stone flaps. The stronger teams who could take the time to examine such things can easily get through the floor too quickly.
‘They could enter while the area the mural is on is facing away and leave before it appears. Though I suspect at least a few in the inner circle know about it. They just don’t talk about it where I can hear.’
Doyle, ‘Can’t really do much about that, I guess. Though I’ll still keep the mural path on the back burner. If I could remember what was up with the floor one, that would be a strong contender, but I’m passing it up for now. No reason to take the chance on it when there are better options.
‘If I’m honest, the temptation is there to throw it all at Trinity. Except the progenitor, one has a lot of potential. If anything, it might help me work on my rune skill and get more points to spend.’
Ally, ‘Well, if you’ve reduced it to those two, I’d say go with Trinity. You literally just set your path and that path certainly sounds like it will help.’
Doyle nods, ‘Yeah, with a level or two coming on soon, getting the most out it is a good idea. [System, put 79 path points into the only started path.]’
{79 points applied to [TRINITY]
100/1000 - Before the clouds could even clear, you strode down your path, came across a crossword and made a decision, even if only recently. As some of the clouds clear, you could look back, but why would you? This is your path. +30 Agility/Level, +20 Wisdom/Level, +10 Karma/Level}
Ally, ‘Huh, I had forgotten this path was so wordy. Actually, now that I think about it, I don’t think it gave anything in the past? Guess this was a bit of an accidental gamble. Though those values aren’t the best. You could have probably gotten more from another path. Well, maybe not more stats per level, but more benefits.’
Doyle, ‘Yeah, it is a strange one. Though it definitely sounds like even if I hadn’t made the choice before spending the points, it would have forced the matter. Maybe it is some kind of tutorial path?’
Ally shakes her head, ‘No, it feels more like a foundation building path. Though of course, that is just the classification of scholars. The system only recognizes class paths. And I guess location paths? Maybe there are more that we just don’t know about? But foundation building paths are simply what scholars call a path that is clearly to solidify your personal vision of what your path will be.’
Doyle, ‘Hmm, do you think I would have gotten so many points if I had to choose the path still?’
Ally shrugs, ‘I’d guess maybe half that? Or maybe it would give you enough to have them all be equal to one another, which would be quite the loss. Either way, it isn’t like we can guess what the next step will be. We can’t even be sure what sort of pattern the path will have. Is the next benefit at 200? 300? Or only 150?’
Doyle, ‘Whatever the case, I feel that numbers are going to get a bit silly at the high end.’
Ally nods, ‘Yep, when someone begins to have tens of thousands in a stat, they’ll really hunt for one of those system devices to change their status, just to turn the numbers to scientific notation. In particular, the E version and generally only having it start doing that at tens of hundreds of thousands. When you get to the point that hundreds of points in a stat don’t mean much, it is so much easier to just see 2.3e5 than 233,461. Though some choose to truncate the number, so 2.3 and just remember the exponent.’
Pass Rates And Quest Rewards - Chapter 386
Comments
Unknown, he just talked himself out of it at some point.
Akhier Dragonheart
2024-08-03 20:19:48 +0000 UTCThere are of course quests like this one where it is very much a system created event. However, most quests are the system either putting user created stuff quests into word (think the classic quest board in an adventurers guild you see in so many fantasy settings) or the system bringing forward a growth opportunity like when Sammy got that shield from killing the axebeak. That second one can on occasion end up being a bit more like the system acting as your therapist. Though in general people don't come across system backed quests all that often. The rarest quest type is the classic "save the world" type of quest, IE, "story" quests. The system normally prefers people take care of things like that on their own. Summoned hero types are actually the ones most likely to get those quests because they're being thrown into an unknown situation and so the system will provide them more support than usual in the same way that the system just gave Doyle's world a quest.
Akhier Dragonheart
2024-08-03 20:16:54 +0000 UTCQuests At A Distance 0/50, and Quest Taker 0/50 seems instresting... as who will give out thous quest? The System? Or "the world" (or the place)is it to getting some form of being? Would MC be one of few pepole that can talk to it at this stage as being capable handeling huge swats of non critical information. Or are they're getting quest via adventurers guild? Or can they take quest form places/location such as system reconciliation towns? Can MC get he's own portal to hop around the world's if he takes them?quest at distance specifically could work whit spactial magic acpect
mly85lc
2024-08-03 15:49:07 +0000 UTCSo what was draw back on "All the Potions 0/60" paht? Sure he himself won't be using them but what says he's mods can not uses them do dose before battel.. sure even classic potions bottles are out of use his moods whit out digits. But if you just have one kobols whit 10-15 potions on he's back he can spike whole heard of mods beforehand.. it could acts as abitionally deranged for using number to raid... or just as lessons not let have your enemy's time to prepare for you.
mly85lc
2024-08-03 15:18:18 +0000 UTCNext time a recap on place and people? Because sometimes I wonder who is who! And do the tow [Proto-**** Maker] lead to normal [**** Maker]?
leon boudet
2024-08-02 19:41:33 +0000 UTCThere should be...
Akhier Dragonheart
2024-08-02 18:54:59 +0000 UTCWas there not a path for the fluid instances?
Dennis
2024-08-02 17:59:42 +0000 UTC