Dr. Who Series 7 - The Bells of Saint John
Added 2023-07-29 14:00:03 +0000 UTCClara is back !!!!
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It does, thanks.
Stephen Males
2023-07-31 14:41:25 +0000 UTCThank you so much. I wont click on the link. Just wanna let you know, that the mod Andrew is called Andrew Gwilliam on Patreon :) Maybe that helps :)
Nicologik
2023-07-31 13:05:51 +0000 UTCThis is the link. I would put it in a reply to Andrew but I keep forgetting which of the two Andrews here is your mod! The video does actually say it is a prequel to this episode and I think it does work better f you have not yet seen the next one. Sorry I am contradicting myself. The correct Andrew will know what to do. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IROtC6cAT4&t=2s
Stephen Males
2023-07-31 12:45:12 +0000 UTCI´m sorry you didn´t like this episode as much. It´s so interesting to get this feedback, thank you so much. :) The fairy tale Theme is great :) I agree with you about the TARDIS feeling a little more grown up. I have to be honest here, I didn´t see any change of clothes though. I guess I have to go back and rewatch :) Thank you for not spoiling anything I really appreciate that :)
Nicologik
2023-07-31 07:21:09 +0000 UTCThank you for not spoiling Clara´s Theme. But yeah, it´s a really nice track, I like it very much :) Haha yes the TARDIS telephone cords was hilarious. I wanted to mention it, but they talked so fast, and I didn´t want to talk over anything so I didn´t say it. But it was so funny :D I just read another comment that mentioned Amy beeing the author of the book. Awwwwwww I miss her soooo much. Haha I agree, the cookie sniffing scene was weird indeed :D Finding the TARDIS that is mentioned in the episode on Google Maps was incredible. I was already hyped just to see it exists in real life. But to mention it in an episode is beyond great. :)
Nicologik
2023-07-31 07:16:22 +0000 UTCOh really? Ups I´m sorry, wasn´t intentional. Thanks for letting me know :)
Nicologik
2023-07-31 07:05:21 +0000 UTCI agree with you about Clara and the fact that we didn´t learn everything about her yet. :) Thank you for the info about Clara´s Theme. I really like it :) I had to google "Earls Court" after reading your comment, since I had no idea it was a part of London. Never heard it before, so thank you for letting me know, because otherwise I would have never understood that line. Which would have been a pity because it´s really funny. :) Yes I do know the term snogging. :) But thank you for making sure I understood that joke :) I have never seen Wallace and Gromit but I just googled it. Haha you´re right, there is a similarity :D :D You can send me the Minisode, but Andrew has to review it first. Cause I do know that there is a lot of "special stuff" to watch after this series has ended, this episode might already be on that list. I just want to make sure I´m not watching anything before Andrew told me it´s ok to do so :)
Nicologik
2023-07-31 07:04:32 +0000 UTCI agree with you that this would a have been a better story if it was a two parter. However I think that it was very entertaining and felt intriguing and fresh, I really enjoyed it. But I get where you are coming from. :)
Nicologik
2023-07-31 06:53:23 +0000 UTCOk lets start with rankings. It's 4/5 for this story and I have it ranked as number 111/140. It's an ok episode with some good concepts but doesn't really stand out as a great episode. I do like the start of the episode. The set up with the monks in regards to the title which turns out to actually be the Tardis phone. As for the call backs to Amy, the book we see the cover of in this is by Amelia Williams. Something I forgot to talk about last episode but you mentioned in both this reaction and in your reply to me on the last episode is the fairy tale theme. And yeah the living on a cloud is very fairy tale but I always felt that with the new console and his change of clothes the Doctor and the series feels more grown up. Which ties in with the start of this series with the Ponds growing up and having more of a normal life, now after losing Amy it's the Doctor whose grown up. It's something I can relate to as it was during this half of the series I had my own similar experience, (although mine didn't involve weeping Angels or being trapped in the past) There's some other thing I'd like to say about this episode but they could be spoilery and I a big believer when it comes to watching reactions videos that you don't talk about anything past the story that's just been watched so I'll say it for the end of the series.
Jade Ellis
2023-07-30 22:00:35 +0000 UTC"I found a disassembled quadricycle in the garage.", "I don't think you did.", "I invented the quadricycle!", The Doctor and Clara, "The Bells of Saint John" I didn't want to highlight Clara's theme music last week because it could be a spoiler that we would see Clara again so soon - but I really love that music track. When I see the monks at the beginning, my mind goes to the TV series "Cadfael" (based on some books) - because it was about medieval monks. It starred Derek Jacobi who played Professor Yana, the pre-John Simm Master in the series 3 episode "Utopia" to tie it back to Doctor Who. The TARDIS telephone cord is really long - I'm pretty sure as he is walking around the monk with him in the chamber he's winding the cord round and round him. The practical use of the external TARDIS telephone is also a callback to "The Empty Child" - the same author, Steven Moffat. BTW: I think you should go back and have a look at the author of that book with the girl in the dress on the cover. "I can't fly a plane. Can you?", "No", "Oh, fine. Well, let's do it together.", The Doctor and Clara, "The Bells of Saint John" I wanted to mention that this joke is almost identical to some lines from "The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy" radio show. And we get "Jammie Dodgers" again. A bit creepy when he sniffs the aroma from packet though. We have seen the Doctor drive out of the TARDIS on a motorbike before in "The Idiot's Lantern" (well it was a Vespa then, I guess) As Stephen mentioned above, the location of that Earl's Court Police Box in the Google Street view was explictly quoted in this episode. Pretty cool to hook into the real world like that.
Andrew Vignaux
2023-07-30 00:35:44 +0000 UTCThat wasn't the Tower of London, that was the Palace of Westminster (also known as the Houses of Parliament). You'll see the Tower of London in another episode in your future...
Andrew Gwilliam
2023-07-29 18:46:15 +0000 UTCI really like this episode although I do remember being frustrated when I first watched it because we were not given an explanation right here and now for Clara/Oswin reappearing in different times and places. Eventually, of course, I was pleased because Steven Moffat is so good at sowing the seeds of a mystery and then making us wait a while before revealing the answer. So I think we learned just enough about this modern day Clara to decide if we like her (I really do) and enough was held back to keep us intrigued and guessing. The concept of people's minds or souls being uploaded to the net is a great one and incredibly creepy. And the woman at the end having her mind returned to her body and turning out to be a small child - that is chilling. The music you said was cute is Clara's Theme and a variation on it also appears in The Snowmen. I think it might be in Asylum of the Daleks too but I would have to go back and check. Four silly details: Did you notice the boss lady's reference to looking for the Tardis and making sure they had found the right one. She says "Earls Court was an embarrassment" because that is the name of the London Underground station where the police box is. The one you saw on Google Maps. Clara calls the Tardis The Doctors "snogging booth" or "snog box". I don't know if that expression is one that you are familiar with but snogging is British slang for kissing and cuddling. Did you ever watch the Wallace and Gromit animated films? I think Matt on a motor bike looks a lot like Wallace when he rides one. The rooftop cafe where The Doctor and Clara have coffee and defeat the baddies using a laptop is I think a building called One New Place and as you can see it has a great view of the dome of St Paul's Cathedral. Well worth going up to the roof garden in one of their glass elevators next time you are in London. ps I think it is probably a good thing that you have not yet seen the minisode I mentioned last week. It would make less sense and possibly be a minor spoiler if you saw it before the next episode. If your mod is planning to send it to you then he is clearly a better planner than I am. Which is not difficult.
Stephen Males
2023-07-29 17:16:15 +0000 UTCThis story kicks off one of my favourite arcs in Dr Who - for reasons that will become clear once the arc is completed :) For that reason alone, I would love to rate this story higher; but I can't,because the story itself is wasted! For a 'first episode' (which this effectively is,because I agree with you - this is episode 1 of series 7 B), the plot should be a fairly minor thing in order to concentrate on establishing the new character and the mystery associated with her. Unfortunately,Moffat comes up with a GREAT story - and is quite unable to do it any sort of justice. If ever a story required the gradually paced two-part treatment,it was this one. As it is,a terrific idea is established and (after a few scenes of frantic action) resolved - but it isn't even the focus of the episode! The focus is Clara. She comes out well,and the viewer is successfully pulled in and intrigued. The rest,is the the usual NewWho weakness: everything hurtles along at top speed,but there is little substance because there is simply no time to do it justice. :( Btw,the villains from School Reunion that you were reminded of were The Krillitaine. This one was a different creature. The Great Intelligence was a (not very well known) Classic Who villain; but it's use in this story arc is effective (more on that later!)
Ian Smith
2023-07-29 14:43:18 +0000 UTC
