Dr. Who Series 5 - Cold Blood
Added 2023-01-07 15:00:04 +0000 UTCYoutube seems to be a bit lazy today. It still hasn´t finished the HD version. It might take some more minutes, sorry :/
Wow, this second part was something else than I expected it to be....
Comments
Wow I am impressed by Moffats part. He really made a difference in that episode. He knows what he´s doing :) Rory is/was such a poor guy. I really liked him :( I´m sorry you and your family had the same flu bug. I´m glad you are feeling better though :) Yes....I know that cough..... It just wouldn´t go away for soooo long. Hopefully we wont get sick for the next months to come. Enough is enough :D :D
Nicologik
2023-01-11 16:24:32 +0000 UTCThank you for your thoughts about this episode :) I totally understand your take on the "Nasreen issue". I didn´t consider that side of the negotiations. Thank you for letting me reconsider my opinion :) And also thank you for claifying her situation at the end :) I understand her a lot better now :) I agree, poor Rory.... I liked him so much, and I really thought this that he was a companion for much longer. I have the feeling that every ending of every single ex companion is worse than the one before. :/
Nicologik
2023-01-11 16:15:14 +0000 UTCYou are soooo right, I totally forgot about that ring. Thank you for reminding me :)
Nicologik
2023-01-11 16:11:39 +0000 UTCHaha yes that celery line was super funny :D Yeah me, beeing at the expert level :D I agree, the voice over suggested more than the story revealed later. I thought we would really get a big backstory, built up from the very start...Well, not this time I guess.... It´s intresting that the Alaya story really made sense to you. For me it felt a little forced. However I do know where you´re coming from :) You´re right about Nasreen and her negotiations. It makes a lot more sense to me now, thanks :)
Nicologik
2023-01-11 16:11:02 +0000 UTC"Not got any celery, have you?", The Doctor, "Cold Blood" Nice that you picked up on the celery line - you got the 5th Doctor reference - that's Doctor Who expert level! I liked it that the Doctor disarmed the Silurian guards with his sonic screwdriver by making their guns malfunction - rather than using it as some kind of a Sci-Fi weapon. I agree that the early voice over suggested that we would witness a much deeper story than we actually got to see in this episode - I felt a bit disappointed with that. I don't really like narrations much anyway (well sometimes they're fine - like the start of "The Lord of the Rings") but the narration mid-episode allowing the viewers to skip over the ongoing negotiations didn't appeal at all. The point in the story, that we could see coming, was how the peaceful solution initiated by the Doctor was going to break down when they brought in Alaya's body - a tragedy. And of course, it's exactly what Alaya wanted to happen. I wasn't very surprised that Ambrose was the one that Alaya predicted would kill her. Well, there were only three choices and I certainly didn't see Rory doing it. Ambrose did seem to be the one with the most anxiety because of her family. And Alaya pushed her over the edge. I liked Nasreen. And in that light, I see her raising the issue about the Silurians using additional resources for their future population more as the basis for the arguments that they would have to use to convince the human population to accept the proposed peaceful solution. But that's probably mostly me seeing through the lens of me liking Nasreen. [Ah, I see Stephen made the same point above.] You've seen the Silurian Council Chamber you liked before - it was the same filming location (redressed) as the Platform One room when Rose met all the aliens. It was also used in "Gridlock" as the council room with all the skeletons, and in "The Fires of Pompeii". "Be extraordinary.", The Doctor, "Cold Blood"
Andrew Vignaux
2023-01-09 08:04:05 +0000 UTCHi! I was waiting for someone to mention Amy's engagement ring (which cost a lot of money). Rory took it back to the Tardis at the beginning of the previous episode and it was already on Amy's finger... So Rory still left a mark on the world even though she never existed...
monguru (Rose Tyler fan)
2023-01-07 18:52:20 +0000 UTCI agree that this episode is a lot better than part one. It's not perfect but it has more drama and more sense of jeopardy. Also agree that the woman (Ambrose) killing Alaya seemed like a plot contrivance and not completely believable. Although her distress about her son and Alaya's sneering about her father's fatal condition could have pushed her to kill it felt a bit clunky. I think I should defend Nasreen and her comment about "what do we gain?" because she is having yo negotiate on behalf of humanity and, as she says, she would have to convince the rest of humanity (or their leaders) to accept any deal that is reached. You probably did miss her comment hear the end about finding her treasure below the surface of the Earth. She means that she loves Tony and wants to stay with him. And the fact that her work up on the surface is going to be destroyed is all the more reason to stay with him. The scene could have been written much better and more clearly of course and her feelings did seem to come out of nowhere. Poor Rory. He didn't have the best of luck did he? I enjoyed Rory as a character more than Amy to be honest. And the idea of not just dying but being utterly forgotten, even by someone who loved you, is quite heart-breaking.
Stephen Males
2023-01-07 18:34:52 +0000 UTCThis episode was essentially written by two people. The bulk of it was scripted by Chris Chibnall; and is a generally uninspired and uninspiring rehash of a couple of classic stories (even lifting dialogue directly from them!). Toward the end, Steven Moffat took over - in order to tie it in with the arc of the series - and it's very clear when that moment occurs: the crack appearing. From this point, the episode takes an upswing; and I love what he does with it!He pulls the rug from under the viewers feet, and leaves us reeling (as the credits role). Thank goodness for Moffat - otherwise this story would be a strictly 'file and forget'. And poor old Rory - he not only doesn't exist; but he never has existed! Only the Doctor remembers :( We, too, have had the same flu bug as you and your partner. In our family were able to shake the worst of it off before Christmas Day - but our neighbour went down with it that very morning, while he was preparing his family's Christmas meal :( In fact, almost everyone I know has gone down with it - and, while we all shook off the worst of it pretty quickly, that damn cough just lingers on and on! IMO,this particular bug has been far more infectious than Covid ever was.
Ian Smith
2023-01-07 16:10:13 +0000 UTC
