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Sacred Symbols, Episode 355 | In Violent Times, You Shouldn't Have to Sell Your Soul

After years of hard work (and tons of external speculation), Sony-owned developer Bungie has finally revealed gameplay from and tons of details concerning its next project, Marathon. An extraction shooter that will be sold for a mid-range price ($40 seems to be the going guess), reactions to the project have been mixed. Does a large market for a game like this exist? Is the cost of entry too prohibitive? Is it DOA like Concord? Honestly, we feel like a lot of people are overreacting one way or another, but one thing's for sure: For some, any payment is too much. Speaking of cash-money, prices for PlayStation 5 hardware and/or PS+ subscriptions alike are going up in various parts of the world, including Europe, Australia, and Canada. Is Sony trying to inoculate itself from American tariff threats by exploiting safer markets? Or are global currencies and economies really doing that poorly? Amongst other news comes, of course, listener inquiries. As Clair Obscur: Expedition 33 draws ever-nearer, what's our collective gut-check? Could rumors of a Prototype 3 actually be real? Have we gotten to the point where trashing games has become tropey? Are we closer than ever to discovering the identity of the woman who was crying in the bathroom during Sacred 200?

Timestamps:
0:00:00 - Intro

0:30:49 - Sacred is here for you

0:33:24 - Crying woman revealed

0:37:55 - Sacred Lore

0:48:38 - More Sacred dating advice

0:58:59 - Marathon revealed

1:52:25 - PS5 price increase in certain regions

2:18:44 - Last of Us Season 2's strong start

2:23:05 - Oblivion remake is real

2:35:32 - Chronos: The New Dawn

2:41:38 - Minecraft movie domination

2:45:24 - Ubisoft making an Apex Clone

2:50:23 - What We’ve Been Playing (Blue Prince, Death Stranding, Indiana Jones and the Great Circle)

3:13:40 - Clair Obscur gutcheck

3:18:00 - Most toxic fanbase

3:24:09 - Fan service complaints

3:39:21-  Prototype 3 rumors

3:46:55 - New Naughty Dog game?

3:49:36 - Final gaming experiences

Sacred Symbols, Episode 355 | In Violent Times, You Shouldn't Have to Sell Your Soul Sacred Symbols, Episode 355 | In Violent Times, You Shouldn't Have to Sell Your Soul

Comments

Very much agreed

James Spychalsky

If Trails fans are toxic, then Kingdom Hearts fans belong in a nuclear waste treatment facility is all I’m saying. It’s only video games where people think it’s toxic to say you should play a story driven series in release order to really get it. Never heard anyone say it‘a cool to read Return of the King before at least Fellowship or Two towers, but for whatever reason, it somehow shouldn’t matter for video games. Sort it out, Dustin. Yes, I understand the irony of my comment. Yes, I’m a gatekeeper and maybe a little toxic, but I’m proud of it (and not all that serious, because who ACTUALLY cares about this stuff?).

Bill Q.

Kamala lost

My most hated race is the 400m dash

Just want to comment real quick to give feedback about the news write ups. I personally would like things to stay as they are currently structured, but I understand wanting to bunch up the news together. However, please don’t get rid of the longer write ups. It’s one of the things that makes you guys stand out, sparks discussion, and it’s one of my favorite segments. I’m sure the write ups would be missed.

Gabe

I completely agree. The structure this show provides is one of the things that makes it more appealing than other shows.

Gabe

Chris doing the Elon Musk impression is gold, Elon is such a weirdo tool

Bruce The Genetic Jackhammer Rando

Agreed. I think anyone who disagrees is just obviously virtue signaling.

Jason

Feeling like the boys getting a bit prudish here. There's clearly a demand for more attractive woman in games lately, just look at the response to a lot of these eastern games recently compared to the western ones in this specific regard. Let's not play dumb, sex still sells, why do we have to get on our high horses and shame people for wanting more attractive characters?

Bailey Callis

I get fascinated when people talk about their countries debt spending and then vote for the person who has added the most to the debt, lol. Its like for me in Canada, saying my number 1 concern is the debt and then voting for the liberals again. Just a funny observation, and not necessarily about anyone on the show. Just made me realize how much I actually hear it in my day to day. Great show as usual boys.

Jacob Lesperance

Speaking as a Canadian, yes, our currency has devalued in relation to USD to the point where $110CAD is $80USD. Why this is terrible for Canada is we used to be on par. In 2010, $80USD = $80CAD. Our wages have increased roughly the same amount as in the US, but everything in our country now costs 45% more than in US, in real wages. Thats why we bitch about it; not because we don't understand that larger numbers are psychologically affecting our perception of value, but because everything now costs a larger % of our wage.

Ryan Hayman

Lords of the Fallen devs: “The women will look like women”

Ahlickaloo

Man, let's just be real. After all the chaos and turmoil that bungies been through as of late, that showcase was nowhere near what they needed to hit, I'd even say it was a low key disaster. Bungies in trouble man, we all used to have way higher expectations for the bungie brand

Bailey Callis

In the relationship segment, very typical of Colin to essentially say "if its not easy, move on" and Dustin to say "some battles are worth fighting, despite struggle" Expect nothing less from a vehement from software enjoyer

Bailey Callis

What about Siege? I’ve got a couple thousand hours and it’s not for the weak 😅

Adam Barnes

Elon lives rent free in Chris’ head.

Adam Barnes

Chris: @2:07:30, try program your sound system to utilize HDMI CEC, then you should be able to use any remote for sound system. Works for my Marantz

Kid-Organic

The funniest joke this episode was Dustin asking if Colin would want to power wash his own home. People from Long Island don't even clean their own homes, let alone power wash, landscape, etc. That's what peasants are for, meaning anyone not from Long Island lol.

Michael Rogers

Man you guys could not be more wrong about HBO. Common Side Effects Chris? You mentioned that show several times. The Rehearsal, Hacks, the Pitt, Righteous Gemstones, White Lotus, almost all the recent A24 movies all within the last month. Meanwhile Apple has had like 2 good shows this year

Gooch Gobbler

Elden ring / fromsoft fans are the most toxic in my opinion. They try to compare everything to it even if it doesn’t make any sense to. And god forbid you think it’s just an okay game they damn near shit their pants in anger 😭. 90% of them only like the game because it gives them some weird sense of superiority/ sophistication in terms of taste. lol that entire base is so fucking cringe it’s unbearable 😂😂🙄

Big titty drinker

It was incredible.

Big titty drinker

Any complaint about the news write up should truly be interpreted in they just don’t like this show. I have a hard time believing all of a sudden there is a large group of people who don’t like the news write ups Colin does considering he’s done them for 15 years.

Zack E

Totally agree, Asmon is the most balanced and honest streamer.

Gray Gordon

I'm pumped for doom. Hoping they have good ray tracing like the last one

Born-Blind

Anyone else have the YouTube link not work this week? It keeps telling me to sign in and confirm I'm not a bot. Tried logging in and out again of both YouTube and Patreon

Born-Blind

For the love of god, please don’t change the write-ups for the larger news items. I always appreciate the insight and the background Colin provides in those write ups. That would be such a bad change for literally no good reason.

Matthew Skora

I’m sorry, but a 1800 psi pressure washer is absolutely useless for most pressure washing applications. If you’re in the market for a pressure washer don’t buy anything under 4500 psi unless you only intend on lightly cleaning your vehicle.

Link

That fallout alien clip killed me 😂😂😂

Andre Ordonez

Matty catching strays from Dustin over Trails lol

Ohana means you’re gay

The order of show changing makes 1000% sense. It makes no sense to have small news, what they’re playing and then more news. Keeping the news together and sandwiching the games talk between the write-in’s makes it flow better.

Daniel E

UughhWHAAAT

DIS-Bee

Did you use ‘a’ instead of ‘an’ as a targeted attack at me? How dare you.

Adam Barnes

Just a small correction. The price of the PS5 slim in Mexico is 11,000 MXN. That is 551.64. In Mexico the price that they show on the store already includes tax and everything else. You don’t have to add tax or anything, that is the final price.

Daniel Martinez

On the format, I don't mind the reorganization of the show, but as someone who now doesn't spend as much time reading the details outside of the show, I always found Colin's write-ups enormously helpful to remind me of all the relevant facts around the story. I don't understand why ppl complain about this, just hit the skip :30 button if you don't want to hear it. I appreciated your efforts to bring all the relevant info to the discussion!

AL022

Doesn't seem to be what any of them said. I think you have it backwards.

AL022

Last of Us fans are the most toxic. They take it as a personal affront if you don’t think they are the greatest games ever

Jeff in NOLA

Just wanted say thank you guy s for the timestamps sometimes I press the progress bar and go to random spot in the show on accident. The timestamps make it very easy to deal with this

Have you considered considering considerations considerately considerate

Colin, the official Marathon reveal trailer with 22m views was artificially inflated via plugins and google ads. Suggested organically closer to 3-4m views.

Eric Golley

The talk about Asmongold was so disingenuous. I’m going to keep thinks respectful but it clearly shows Chris tries to play things off like he’s being balanced but he clearly doesn’t like Asmongold at all. How do I know? Because what Asmongold actually said was clearly misrepresented on purpose (or he just saw a headline and didn’t watch the clip). What he said was, mostly men are going to be playing shooters and yes he said just make the characters “fuckable” - then he says right after “clearly that’s what people want” and goes on to explain his point of view is coming from the success of Marvel Rivals (ironically which Chris then talks about how he thinks a character is hot - it’s almost like it’s ok if he thinks gaming characters are hot, but if anyone else talks about them, they are gooner). He also goes on to explain that women cosplay these characters too and NONE of them cosplay unattractive or ugly characters, which is 100 percent true. Hell, a lot of these cosplayers take things that aren’t sexual at all and make them sexual (which actually annoys me). But he was speaking from a marketing standpoint that games like Marvel Rivals sell. I wasn’t a fan of Asmongold before because all I ever heard was he’s disgusting and a bigot etc, then I actually listened to some of his videos and he comes across as a perfectly normal person. At least from what I saw, he isn’t out there threatening and stalking people like Alyssa Mercante, who for some unknown reason, has been defended on this podcast. Just sorta rubbed me the wrong way given the talk of toxicity lately, yet Asmongold gets shit on for a pretty tame comment, and one that wasn’t even represented accurately. Maybe try to get him as a guest on the show? Might be a cool guest for Colin. I bet they would agree on a lot

PairOfShuse

🛌

JT

That write in about toxicity, thanks for suggesting the best community imaginable with civilization

start a infection

"Concord didn't fail because it was woke"- Colin. Come on man. What are we doing here? I don't like Grummz or that whole crowd either but it absolutely did fail because it was woke AND because it was boring and had bad characters. These things are not mutually exclusive. But it absolutely did fail because of wokeness. The masses are over that shit and people are done being nice about it for the fear of being "canceled". That shit is over.

Mike Held

I need a Summon Sign X Snark Tank episode. We’re so close. Brad knows about them, they know about it, I’m just not sure they know they can just kinda self-invite lol. We gotta keep pushing for it.

Ohana means you’re gay

Gotta get Kingston on LSM

Noah Friscopp

Man I hate to just complain, I’ve had to complain a few things recently like the unified feed Why…why in the world Colin are you changing your news format???? Why???? Please ffs lol It’s great! It allows you to write material! You are a good writer! And why is the format changing at all in order of operations? lol Jesus

Zack E

"Memories fade in to poetry." Chris dropping Knowledge!!

Robert F Friemering

Very interesting as my physio is superb but you're right they must manipulate you physically or it's pointless. A physio that just gives you exercises is a wasted of time

Murderer Kevin

Colin, please just go to the chiropractor. I’m sick of hearing about your back pain when it could’ve been remedied weeks ago from a good chiropractor. I know you were shitting on chirps a few months ago but dude you’ve gotta just get your low back adjusted and you’ll feel so much better. Physical therapy is a waste of time. They’re going to give you simple core exercises that you can just learn on YouTube in 5 minutes. All you’ve gotta do is a couple sets of planks and bird dogs twice a day and get adjusted by a GOOD chiropractor, ideally a Motion Palpation Institute trained chiropractor. My dad’s a chiropractor and I’ve heard from so many people how much he helped them get out of pain and avoid surgeries. It works. You’ve just gotta be careful. There are a ton of really bad chiropractors out there. Find a good one through the motion palpation institute website. Please do yourself a favor and go to the damn chiropractor.

GrzzlyWzrd

I have a power washer mostly for my car, 1800 psi will not hurt anything around your house Colin. Just get one of those and you have no chance of hurting anything.

Uvula Smack

Wild episode my goodness gracious

Robbie Agnew

Elon Musk is Chris’ Voldemort, apparently.

Stephen Lucey

Fucking amateur hour over here man

Michael Vick fights Krypto the Superdog and beats him badly

You guys used the sacred symbols plus logo in the thumbnail. Tighten up guys. Tighten up.

Rusty Shackleford

Now that you mention it, the AI Audit was only from the last few weeks, from a few channels. So a small set from data, and definitely POST-Purge. What I can do is pull a much larger data set, and then run it again. I have an idea for the lore thing, I'll reach out.

Devon McCarty

The news format is what I would consider to be the main draw to Beyond, PSILoveYou and now Sacred. Of course once you listen for a while you grow to really get to know the guys and enjoy many other aspects. But the news rundown and how its presented has always been the USP of Colin’s podcast imo.

WhatDarrenPlays

Marathon? More like Brat summerthon AM I RIGHT?

Moistescarjoe

Colin’s a great news writer too so I missed his run down.

JT

Great ep! My only piece of feedback is that I do miss the news write-ups. They set the stage for discussion and were always enjoyable for me. Thanks!

Lucas Hixon

The last of us 2 knockback episode was objectively one of the best deep dives of a single video game ever, don’t listen to the haters guys

GameSimp

As someone who loves Halo and a former Destiny addict, I was also unimpressed.

My most hated race is the 400m dash

Big fan of the change of having all the news up front

Tanner Triv

I’m hurt!

Mike1core

I’m not getting marathon because Bungie fucked up my chance at playing factions 2

Mike1core

I can’t wait to get my big sweaty gamer hands on that Marathon alpha

DD

That was such a fucking ridiculous write in too. Oh boohoo, the 2 *additional* shows don't interest me, I gotta write in and complain. Get a grip ffs. Also like even referencing Gene saying on Punching Up that he's been playing TLOU, is everyone supposed to coordinate each week so that they don't talk about one game too much? Like Chris said, right now is one of the times TLOU is most relevant, of course it's gonna be talked about

Deemac

I think the shadowdrop is meant to not market a remake of an iconic fantasy game right after they launched avowed. Basically to not shit on obsidian. I don’t think there’s a possibility Oblivion remake will suck but then again MCC.

CUMSoftware

Kingston's Dad making an appearance is the best

Christopher Gourley

As someone who has never been interested in anything bungie has ever made I found the gameplay reveal to be very generic for marathon. I don’t play multiplayer games but when I saw helldivers I was atleast interested and ended up playing for a few months. I’m playing through cyberpunk 2077 (incredible game btw ) and to me the art style of marathon came off as a weak rip off. Gameplay looked generic and boring to me. Even if this was single player it still would not have moved me with that that knock off art style and bland looking gameplay. This is the studio that was in charge of giving the Naughty Gods advice ……………? Just lol 😂 give me a fucking break they can’t even make thier own compelling game. Get these fucking clowns out of my presence at once 😭😂

Big titty drinker

That’s a long winded way of saying you have only one hobby and you’re poor

DOGE enthusiast

Love that Kingstons dad could make an appearance on sacred today

sotelo74

Ah my weekend can begin. Looking forward to hearing the response to Marathon and the PS5 price increases in Europe.

NUTSO JIMBO

Can't wait for the segment about PlayStation prices increasing across the world and hear Colin try to act like the American government have the faintest idea what they're doing. From business insider "President Donald Trump said there may be a point where he doesn't want to put higher tariffs on China because the move could deter buying." 🤣 This guy man fml never thought I'd route for china but America suckkkkkks these days man

Murderer Kevin

I was gonna comment about how it seems like Colin doesn’t like the audience very much when he was talking about the discord, then he had a write in bitching about too much TLOU talk this week and I’m like…yeah I get it Colin.

Bogey

As a house painter. I pressure wash a lot and just gotta say, just use the black tip to put soap on and then use the green tip to blast it off it. You'll be fine. The red tip is for concrete, and the yellow tip is just stay away from very easy.

Joshua Jones

Great, more mild criticism, there goes the first 15 minutes next week.

Stephen Lucey

Do you have to address a snarky/negative/stupid opinion comment every week? The amount of “our community really kinda sucks” talk is getting more tiresome than the comments themselves. I get it’s stuff you guys have to wade through, and people undoubtably say even more hateful/heinous shit than you address on the show, but maybe just block/delete like you said you were going to and move on? It’s really bringing the mood down imo.

Jared R

Gonna edge all day to the Sacred Boys

Meatball

Elite song reference with the title!

Dominic Brant

First

Stephen Lucey


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