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Sacred Symbols, Episode 352 | A Warning Shot Is A Wasted Bullet

Would you play a Miles Morales-style God of War interstitial? If you said "yes," we have good news: Just such a product is apparently slated for PS5 this fall, and it's rumored to return the series to its Greek roots. But is this really the best use of Santa Monica Studio's time? Shouldn't all eyes be on what's truly next? We discuss. Then: Ubisoft has announced its long-rumored financial deal with tech conglomerate Tencent, one that will give the Chinese firm a 25% stake in a new entity encompassing Assassin's Creed, Far Cry, and Rainbow Six. What does this $1+ billion infusion in capital do for the ailing publisher? Is it too little, too late? Plus: Indiana Jones' PS5 release date draws very near, Until Dawn's original PS3 version leaks in full, Rocksteady's upcoming Batman game may be the first confirmed PlayStation 6 title, Bandai Namco and Sony get together on more retro PlayStation ports, and more. Then: Listener inquiries! With Naughty Dog's Intergalactic unlikely to come to market before 2027, could it end up being PlayStation 5's swan song? Will Game Informer's unexpected comeback prove a triumphant success or a predictable failure? How can Housemarque best position Saros to succeed with Returnal fans? Has Colin ever sat on the couch behind him even a single, solitary time?

Timestamps:

0:00:00 - Intro
0:40:19 - The unified feed is back
0:50:07 - Reddit
1:19:56 - Depression tips
1:24:39 - Bidet recommendation
1:29:55 - Should Dustin actually talk less?
1:35:47 - New "situations"
1:38:19 - Colin's couch
1:42:18 - Dustin encounter at Target
1:43:16 - Sacred recommendations
1:51:14 - God of War expansion
1:56:03 - Indiana Jones PS5 release date
2:01:15 - Until Dawn on PS3 leaked
2:03:28 - New trophies for Days Gone
2:07:16 - Next Batman game for PS6
2:09:25 - Painkiller PS5 remake
2:12:24 - What We’ve Been Playing
2:55:01 - Ubisoft change-up
3:08:08 - Patapon and Everybody's Golf is back!
3:26:51 - New PS+ games
3:33:12 - Will Intergalactic be the swan song for PS5?
3:36:35 - Best video game stories
3:44:34 - Cosmetics in games
3:47:47 - Assassin's Creed vs Elon
4:00:04 - Game Informer's return
4:13:00 - Saros expectations

Sacred Symbols, Episode 352 | A Warning Shot Is A Wasted Bullet

Comments

Very late to this while I play catch up, but well said Colin!

MarkGrouch

I’ll tell you…I’ve been listening to Colin since 2013. I have never found him to be disingenuous even when I disagree. Filing some of these people under the “defamation” category is the most dishonest thing I’ve ever seen come out of Colin or last stand. Even more so than liking last of us 2 There is a world outside your couch and last stand forums.

CUMSoftware

As the old addages goes... Fuck the haters. Respect your take on the Code of Conduct, Colin.

Andrew

Wait Chris doesn’t care what his guardian in destiny looks like?

Deutschbag

lol. Dustin’s comment on Collin’s “no you” comeback sent me. Haha! I’m not convinced of the bidet for myself but the benefits are undeniable. I don’t wanna be the judge but I bet Dustin does have the cleanest ass. lol “eye to eye” ah man.

PopeMcDope

Yeah the 'do as I say, not as we do' is kinda funny to me, that's all milady

Theotokos Respecter

Speaking about the paper straw bullshit. I’m an Assistant Manager at a BK and we get paper straws, and here’s the kicker: they all come in multiple plastic bags (500 per bag/8 bags per case) delivered by a diesel delivery truck. What the fuck are we saving?

mudder12

Okay - Trumps quality as a president/Human isn’t what I am interested in talking about.

Sam

Trump has had the best start to a presidency in my lifetime. Right track/wrong track polling is at a 20 year high.

My most hated race is the 400m dash

I hear ya, that’s where I’m at too. I knew about the Uyghur Muslim thing and the CCP thing, but anymore it’s hard to know what’s true and what’s being exaggerated or distorted. I was just curious if anyone had any examples of how it had been shown to affect games. Guess we’ll find out because China’s global influence is going to rise significantly in the coming years.

Cholomorphs

If people really have such a big problem with China they need to refuse to buy anything made there. We complain about tencent while buying iPhones and Playstation and Xbox. I pretty much gave up on trying to figure out what company is good or bad because they are all terrible.

BigBotz One

You obviously watch both of them so whats the problem?

BigBotz One

A major issue with the approach to tightening community discourse is the timing of it. I aren’t active on either Reddit (don’t even have a Reddit account) but it seems everyone who is being banned is left leaning in their views. It comes across as a staggering coincidence that in the build up to the election there were right wing aligned folk making outrageous comments - I saw a death threat to Jaffe in one of the Patreon comments and had to reply to it asking why they weren’t banned for the comment to even be deleted? Now a few months on where we have seen Elon seemingly become a Nazi and Trump having the worst start to any modern era presidency - now it’s time to ban people for making political comments? In this episode Colin makes the point a few times that he is sorry he let it get this far - from what I can tell the backlash has only ramped up on himself for the outlandish comments made pre election and now the chickens have come home to roost it is time to cull? Peculiar. Baffles me why content is even produced centered on politics when people in the community can’t understand a different viewpoint and the people producing the content can’t either. I hope this message isn’t taken as a message from someone who hates anyone on LSM, I am just staggered by the approach taken here. For the record every comment Colin mentioned that was left should absolutely not be tolerated. I just also think comments like that were left constantly pre-election to no culling and people are also being banned for far smaller infringements. We have entered choppy waters indeed.

Sam

You're basically saying "its not fair, I want to be mean too."

BigBotz One

Chris is afraid of stick drift on the controller of a bidet so he won't buy one. Only something a gamer would come up with.

BigBotz One

Yeah it's weird I don't understand why they are here just to say those types of things. If they don't like it then go away!

Cruz Ibarra

Boo Collin is not allowing the abususers in the LSM house anymore! Lol it's ridiculous Collin has to explain to adults how to behave like adults.. very sad and no one in LSM should have to deal with this. Staff or Community Members. Much love to LSM! We will make it a more chill place without peeps like them. Unfortunately they can't behave and be respectful.

Cruz Ibarra

Hell of a rebuttal.

Adam Barnes

Kind of interesting how Colin is always going off about trophies and completion percentages and how no one plays games but just kinda skips over Elon account farming every time

Gooch Gobbler

First off, I truly love this community, the insightful discussion, and the diversity of views on this network but I truly was looking forward to the guidelines. The worst of this community were truly heinous and I'm curious why a few people calling Colin an idiot, misinformed, etc. is what brought about the ban hammer as opposed to many of us getting called slurs for months on end. In my opinion, I don't like that way of speaking but that is very different for attacking someone for their immutable characteristics. I think he eventually banned some of those people but it took a LONG time lol Also, he keeps saying "if you don't like us leave" but what he's missing is that it's like having a family member or friend with an opposing political opinion. You can still call out that person's bias or opinions you have issues with without throwing out the person. I feel this dissonance about Colin all the time but I hope I'm relatively polite about it. Is this parasocial? You bet ya but literally most of my time at work is spent listening to these guys. Eventually it gets a lil personal feeling. Still though, I love this community and the vast majority of you are good people <3

Gooch Gobbler

1:01:12 “so if you’re willing to say that on another platform you’re just not welcome on our platform” Meanwhile, Chris is out here telling people to kill themselves on Twitter 1:05:35 “I’m not interested in controlling what they (hosts/guests) do off the platform, I’m interested in having like a reasonable place for all of us to be like a community. That’s not full of venom, vitriol, and hate.” No hate or anything, it’s your podcast company to do what you want with, but it does seem a bit odd to see the main co-host publicly post in a way directly opposed to what you’re saying. But then punishing community members, seemingly at a random barometer for severity, for posts outside Patreon.

Theotokos Respecter

Study Remilia and we won’t have these community problems Milady

Theotokos Respecter

I've never really understood this critique of reddit. All the communities I interact in are largely positive and even more thoughtful compared to any other social media. Add in the fact that images are pretty rare and that helps things more, reducing personal attacks against people. I think it is the communities people choose to visit

Gooch Gobbler

Hello sacred trio Colin you were worried about insulting the intelligence of the viewers and that you were saying things you don't need. I disagree I think you do need to say it and I'm glad you did. People need to be called out on their behaviour and if anything it's satisfying to those who have seen it. We've listened to 352 episodes of this show, you're doing things right and always have. Thank you all for saying what needs to be said.

Rob Pursglove

Sacred Gents, First pledged back in May of 2019 — so I’ve been off and on this train for a while now. But I came back and upped my Patreon subscription this morning because of the way you've decided to lead this channel and community. There are a few things you consistently do that stand out as real leadership moments, and I think they deserve to be called out: • You host an open forum where anyone can come on and speak. That takes guts and humility. • You give people space to chart their own course — and then bring them back to share their story. Second Wind, Destin, and others — that’s the kind of stuff that shows the true nature and future of this world. • You protect your team. You stand up for folks like Jaffee, Gene, and anyone else catching unnecessary heat — and you do it without apology in a time where "instantly distancing" is the norm. Most people would throw together a vague “code of conduct” and call it a day. But you sat on that document because it was bugging the shit out of you. And you finally trusted your gut enough to make a decision that *actually* matters. You skipped the empty gesture and took meaningful action to protect your space. That’s what brought me back and it’s also what I’m happy to invest in moving forward. This is the kind of leadership that earns trust — and keeps it. Respect, – Devon

Devon McCarty

lol. Only in your dreams, Adam.

Kojima Made Me Gay

Relax. It's a video game podcast not the townhall

Mr Worry

Checked out the fake sub on reddit and it's a complete meltdown. Lol

Mr Worry

I hope cheeks aren’t critical of the CCP. Gotta have them cheeks.

Cholomorphs

Censorship of anything critical of the CCP or views that don’t Align with the CCP.

Dustin

“…then hold your Patreon subscription to my head like a gun. I’m not going to be emotionally blackmailed.”. Powerful words. Bravo to Colin for cutting off these sadistic shitheads. They must be suffocating. The community is better for it.

ReggieFeelsaMeBallz

Narrative game choice - journey. Nothing is said verbally, but so much is said

Patrick Treanor

I think not “publishing” rules over what is allowed and is not is a mistake. People want to know what they can’t do, within reason. Common sense is not something that actually exists, as it’s subjective. Love the shows, happy to be a part of the patreon.

Michael Emery

lol

crybaby

Bye Kevin I love you

crybaby

Waiting for the inevitable propaganda poster with Colin that says "Cull the fat"

Derek Hart

Cya

Adam Barnes

Kojima, you’re being intellectually dishonest. You know damn well that the way Chris is saying it is the same way Cenk does.

Adam Barnes

Mika: ‘they got the seasons wrong’😂

Benji_B2sick

Great respect for your segment about online conduct, Colin. 99% of us can have differing opinions from someone without becoming a total asshole, I hope those folks with mental issues get help.

Guybrush Threepwood

I say many inflammatory things on this Patreon and hope I am not part of the problem they are mentioning in this podcast. I do not attack the hosts and enjoy all of them, including Jaffe who I completely disagree with on a foundational level. I do argue with people on here though LOL

Seth

You guys are brilliant !!

Kladknee

bye-bye aptly named user.

Kevin Cooper

Thank you for returning the unified thread that required no extra steps on my end. Much appreciated.

Michael Rogers

Antonio with the Delaware shout out

CastingCouch

Always a shout out to Spec ops the line whenever we can. And infamous 2 hero and villain ending still stands out as some of the best narratives on ps3.

Frank G.

You let the most toxic Trumpist subscribers talk the most heinous, arrogant and aggressive shit imaginable to those they consider enemies for months before banning them and now as soon as you start get criticized when it comes to your politics, even when it’s completely fair and not toxic in the slightest, you start banning them at the drop a hat. Seems fair. Quoting simply the worst comments instead of the ones you know you unreasonably banned people for is such an MSNBC/The Guardian coded move too.

Mick Mac

Bye loser. Have fun being toxic somewhere else

Froilan

Good call on the community guidelines. Please feel free to read the most hilariously heinous messages that got people banned for their “civil disagreements” as you did in the episode today (anonymously ofc). Great episode so far

Anthony Palerino

My Patreon subscription to Last Stand expires today, bye everyone. 👋🏻

crybaby

So brave

crybaby

First listened to the show on Friday and I'm still spitting my coffee out over the Goofy Movie "Eye to Eye" bit.

Allan Sweeney

Cenk Uyger does not have a monopoly on the word brother lol

Kojima Made Me Gay

What if you could just shower your ass though? Without moving from your position. 😂

heyVinno

If your shots are that bad though just hop in the shower and start your day over.

Aaron

Yeah I said in my post that if someone like gets close to a line, they should be warned. I find it fine that if people are just outright insulting each other then that’s on the people and could get kicked out.

PairOfShuse

With the “code of conduct now”, I do think it’s the best way to go about it. Though I do think since it’s undefined, if someone skirts the edge of something, I think a warning would be nice for those people. I mean if it’s something like what was said on the show, that’s completely understandable. I do think though it should go both ways. The only time I felt like a guest or a person from Last Stand crossed a line was with Jaffe. He did pretty much call a large portion of the listeners terrible people if they voted for Trump. When he clarified it, it wasn’t any better either. If someone on here comes out just blatantly talking shit about people from Last Stand, with nothing to add, is a banable offense (rightly so), I think the audience deserves enough respect not to be called scum essentially. Game Informer, I just really don’t care about. I lost any respect for that outfit when, I think it was Imran Khan who worked for the magazine, tried to get an actual dev (Yoko Taro) to apologize for the design of 2B. Just felt that was extremely uncalled for an pretty low. Game Informer was a great magazine when I was in Jr High and High School more than 20 years ago. Gamers Republic, PSM, Game Informer, and Play magazine were all great. Sadly, just like gaming websites, the “journalists” working for them just became antagonistic and extremely unlikeable, which includes Game Informer the last 19 years. So I’m out. I’d love for a good boutique type physical magazine though

PairOfShuse

That’s way more acceptable. The Cenk Uyger “brother!” that he’s adopted over the last couple months is gross

Adam Barnes

In my experience, talking about hater comments just makes it worse, they want your attention. Not that you shouldn’t communicate changes to Reddit and such, but just my advice.

Chuck Rude

I love the banning straight up toxicity, but without the guidelines I think it's important to distinguish the valid criticisms people are giving vs the insults and blatant disrespect some people give. I feel 90% of this comes up from the political discourse in today's world, which sucks because this is a video games podcast. But its pretty obvious that the most bickering and arguments happen in episodes where you guys mention them in some fashion, and I don't think its right to fully censor someone if they're responding to something you guys discussed on the pod. If they're being downright disrespectful and can't cordially comment then yeah, they should of course be banned. But it's treading a pretty fine line banning people for giving their thoughts/criticism on a political take brought up on the show if they disagree with you, which I have seen some people claim happen.

peanutbutterloveer

Chris, it's "bust out" laughing, not "bust". Unless you do, in fact, bust in your briches from a good joke.

Cubes

Colin is exactly correct in “culling the fat.” I’m so sick of acquiescing to a small minority of people in my own career.

Forrest Hunter

Wait what's the shadow reddit? Lmao people are this fucking sad and bored in their life? Jesus christ.

Yalingo

Brother in Christ?

Pianopower

Haha bye losers, take your asshole personalities elsewhere👋🏻 Well done Colin, think you’ve handled it perfectly.

Cormac

I cannot reconcile in my mind why people would listen to a podcast where they hate the podcasters let alone join a community surrounding it. Tin foil hat on are these people genuine or have some purposeful bad actors stirring shit? . Someone accidentally let danny o'dwer in? "jim ram khan has entered the chat"

Simmo

You’re not wrong there, everyone is a critic

Daddy T

Just the feeling that everybody is a critic, that Colin was venting about earlier in the podcast. Apologies if my message was a head scratcher. I was listening after a long work day and was a bit fried.

Directional Joy

What is bro yapping about

Daddy T

Chris, please stop saying ‘brother’. Thanks, love you

Adam Barnes

Narratives that can only be done in video games and no one says Souls games?

Xemphanis

Glad to see Chris is enjoying AC Shadows. Didn't catch if he was playing in English or Japanese....but the story hits much better in Japanese. The English acting is....not great.

Ryan Zimm

Gotcha. What about any tangible effects on video games?

Cholomorphs

Not limited to, dominated by and that’s quite evident particularly in Reddit but at this point I could not care less. I love Jaffe, but the main thrust of that hate was spear headed by his blanket statement against Trump supporters prior to the election, other than that’s it’s relatively mild compared to what Colin and co. face routinely on Reddit and here.

The Rose Experience

Several Tencent companies are partially owned by the CCP. The CCP created the concept of “golden” shares, which grants the government the ability to drive business decisions without having to invest in a majority stake. Functionally, the CCP runs several Tencent subsidiaries. The CCP also recognizes several dozen ethnic minorities in China. They have explicit policies of ethnic cleansing to bring these minority groups into the Han Chinese fold. The policies include erasure of local languages and customs, the closing of religious institutions, coercing ethnic minority women into marrying Han Chinese men in order to dilute ethnic populations and give men a broader pool of partners, etc. etc. This is all documented and openly admitted to by the CCP. What the US and Canada did to indigenous people the CCP is doing right now. In 2025. Fuck the CCP and fuck Tencent.

Jimmy G

Goddamn everyone in this thread, including me.

Stephen Lucey

😂

Directional Joy

Sadly, some people need a reality check, virtually. I agree that most know how to act right. And, frankly, the ones who don’t know what they are doing (ruffling feathers).

Directional Joy

I don’t envy his position, but he always carries a delicate touch, with his decisions.

Directional Joy

Colin, gotta say, props to you for your comments regarding community guidelines. You're absolutely right, none of it should be said. We should all just know how to be respectful and kind to each other in this space. Not a dig, but that's gotta be one of the most mature things I've ever heard you say. Been a patron since 2019 and couldn't imagine holding that to your head. Keep up the great work everyone 👏

Jay Bayles

Colin, you were never good enough back in childhood, when your parents wished you would JUST do THAT thing they want… and now, as an adult with fans, you are STILL not good enough. Life is ohhhh so cruel! 😉 * joking aside, I do trust Colin to do whatever he feels is reasonable, regarding Reddit/Discord. I do not frequent either, so I am certainly oblivious to the behavior, but I understand the need to take steps for mental sanity AND to keep with the welcome nature of LSM. 🫡

Directional Joy

Love this. Question is...hw long would it be?

Nathan McManus

“Helen Keller is just folklore” is a great song title

Andy Carroll

“They’re smart but you can still just stab them” was so funny

Gabriel Baker

Reddit is the most toxic platform ever created. It doesn’t matter what subreddit you visit.

Chris Van Buren

Reddit recommended me that subreddit and I followed thinking it was the actual sub. It was actual crazy making seeing you all characterized that way in the comments, still thinking this was the normal subreddit. I got downvoted for commenting ‘it’s ok to just disagree with someone’ and then I looked into what was going on with the sub and immediately blocked it. I’m glad you brought it up on the show because there have to be others that Reddit pushed that sub to and unaware of what they actually joined.

Oliver Johnson

The show is 75% video game talk, 20% random topics and 5% politics talk. It’s not that deep bro.

Trevor Cripe

Sacred+ episode where the best ones get read?

DOGE enthusiast

I remember early in LSM history there was a Colin Last Stand FB group that was nothing but toxic people in that group, I had to leave it was nothing positive there

DarthLemon616

I am totally ignorant on the subject, so someone feel free to enlighten me: Why is there instant revulsion to Tencent? I never hear them brought up without being shat on, so I’m curious what they’ve done to earn that reputation.

Cholomorphs

What are you talking about? The most hated person that appears on Last Stand is David Jaffe and he's hated mostly for his politics. Jaffe gets by far the most hateful comments on here.It's not the lefties that hate him either. The toxicity is not limited to left leaning people.

Paul Knickerbocker

Colin, if you got shit all over your hands, would you just use paper to clean it? Or would you use water? #bidet

heyVinno

Could the possibility of putting these "people being banned for no reason/ minimal reason" talk to an end, be the mods taking a screenshot of said message, which will be put into an updated mega thread so people can see the messages they are dealing with. Complete transparency will stop this constant talk of "bad handling of free speech" on both reddit and discord.

Nathan McManus

I always plank across the seat with my dick hanging into the bowl.

Cholomorphs

Are you a trophy guy? I’d be curious to hear what you think beating the game vs grinding out the plat.

Cholomorphs

Timestamps have been incorrect for me last couple of shows I think. For example indiana jones is at 01:51:00 not 01:56:00

Wesali

Yeah, its taken a while but people are learning that a rule list isn't what makes a community. The people do and the only way to maintain the community is to excise unfavourable elements. Going to be curious about to see how it works out. It's really hard to define community. Its a "if you know, you know" thing. I'll probably be banned for sharing my thoughts about gingers though. :D It is kind of odd that paying to be a part of the community isn't selfselecting people out though. It's crazy that people are trying to use it as a club against you. *edit: Doh! Forgot to say thanks for the uniifed feed.

AngelOfCake

Man gotta say finally got around to cyberpunk 2077 and my goodness this is a phenomenal video game.

Big titty drinker

Really good message regarding the bs in comments etc. colin just has such a great way with words. Fair play for taking action Colin, it's clear you shouldn't have to but it's totally the best way to handle it

Beaver diva

Glad to hear Chris is liking AC Shadows. I have a similar sentiment, this is my first AC game since Black Flag and maybe this helps but so far the game is pretty good. Amazing use of the pro too.

Breno Bezerra Bluhm

And we're still around! Cheated death a bunch of times, getting calmer and being still half sane. And obvious to us older guys, the occasional winding down with a great video game has something to do with it as well.

TGBahr

Better not let anyone know the specific way I pee in the toilet

Nightseye9

I'm on there, it doesn't seem that bad to me. I just hate the way Discord works in comparison to FB or Reddit, it feels like I'm floating a thought or opinion into the ether on Discord. I'll add, I usually talk about games not the state of the world lol

MnTwinsfan92

Appreciate you explaining the code of conduct. You’re right, 99% of the people know how to act, if someone gets removed, that should be their sign to check themselves.

Mykal

Without the asshole how would you shit?

Gabriel Prégent Terborch

We all get sucked in sometimes. The human mind wasn’t designed for the internet, and it makes us all a little crazy.

Jared R

Haven’t listened yet, but I have one thing to say….. letting people on the internet affect you is a waste of time.

NukeDukem

Agree with this post entirely. It's less so you can enforce it, but more just to state out loud what our common values so we have something to come together around. Good things are worth stating publicly! Also agree that I wish the asshole didn't exist. I get sucked into comment battles every once in a while, but try to not comment because it's just not worth engaging. Being in the silent majority is much more healthy to my mind.

AL022

Politics plays off culture and games are apart of thee culture. But it's not like Chris is calling Chuck Schumer a pussy for an hour

Huge Douchebag

I think a lot of people have no one to talk to about it in their own lives so they feel the need to vent in various online circles

Dan Morgan

The shows talk about politics, so it stands to reason the community does as well. Just don’t be an asshole about it.

Jared R

I mean, it seems to me that all of the acrimony is over political opinions. I disagree vehemently with most of Colin’s political takes, but I just don’t see the point in making a big stink about it. And I’m certainly not going to resort to any ad hominem attacks, because I wouldn’t want anyone to do that to me, either. I may personally feel like the world is going to hell at the moment, but I also know that no amount of screeching at anyone online is going to change anyone’s mind at this point. I’ve read many people’s political comments and disagreed entirely with them, but then agree with a gaming related comment they make. And that’s a nice feeling, that even though I absolutely disagree politically, we’ve still got this thing that brings us together. I don’t mean to sound like a lame, above-it-all centrist (I’m certainly pretty damn left wing), I just mean to say that we’re all in this life together and I would much rather try to focus on what brings us together in this community.

Cholomorphs

Bro, why the fuck are people wanting to talk about politics on gaming subreddits and discord channels? Doesn't matter if you love to deep throat Trump or you're holding the line with AOC, LSM is a fucking video game podcast network. Jesus, Mary, and Joseph; fucking unplug from real life and listen to Colin talk about his sex couch

Huge Douchebag

Mean words seem to effect some people more than others.

Michael Thew

Ultra Bitches merch when?

Jimmy G

It's that bad?

Huge Douchebag

I’m feeling mixed on these recent moderation changes. I rarely comment, but I do think if you’re going to do political commentary, you have to be allowed to take some form of criticism. I also fear that some criticism could be suppressed. We are paying customers and I think there’s some inherent right to complain if something isn’t liked. I agreed with every example you named except one, which is the person saying you aren’t living in reality. Is that really a banworthy offense? I also for the first time checked out the alternative Reddit page, and there’s some shocking accusations of bans for lukewarm posts or for simply engaging in posts outside of the LSM community. I do think that really is a bridge too far. There are actual hosts that have heinous posts on Twitter/bluesky. Why would they be allowed to say those things, but the audience can get punished for things said outside of the official reddit. I think more clarification is needed on this, because I’m feeling kind of weird about all of this. Aside from that, I have no issues banning people that blatantly disrespect hosts in egregious ways inside of the official LSM socials.

Tyler Kaminski

I would follow up say that, when Colin says “I’m sorry I let it get like this,” it really isn’t that bad. Maybe it’s because I’m not on reddit, but I am pretty active in the discord. Is there a shit head every now and again, sure. But it’s never felt overwhelmingly bad, certainly better than any other gaming focused community I lurk. Maybe it feels bigger when you’re directly the subject of all the negativity, but I think overall it’s pretty great. If it wasn’t, I’d just never participate. Thank you!

Dante B

Would it be a bit much to namedrop the discord dorks? Probably so I’m not gonna

DOGE enthusiast

Ubisoft social media admin scores the greatest Pyrrhic victory since Asculum.

Stephen Lucey

I’m surprised WATA is even around anymore.

Michael Thew

I liked Arcade Paradise so much I platinumed it. Gets better as it goes.

Drew Hamilton

And as we all learned during covid medical professionals are never wrong lmao.

Thomas

Personally in favor of just putting all self proclaimed Kingdom Hearts (and Persona for that matter) fans on a watch list.

Dante B

I’m not talking about other countries, I’m talking about this country. Since you don’t have compelling answers to the topics above, I’ll bring up another of your talking points. Why would you use socialized healthcare as an argument? They have universally worse care than the USA? Their patients wait months and months to see a doctor and if something like cancer is the problem, why do they seem to all come here to be treated

Michael Thew

I just left the FB group because it’s Kindafunny level toxic. Sucks.

Casey Cieslikowski

The Discord is the fucking worst man lmao, I’m convinced the main stays there have nothing else to do with their time

Daddy T

I would love to see a "kingdom hearts fans.. Stand down" shirt. It needs to be done,enough said

JustKyle92

Countries with socialized healthcare have come to the same conclusion, your american centric conspiracy thinking has no relevance to this topic.

Gabriel Prégent Terborch

So now my rebuttal to that statement is they get paid to think that way by the insurance company who makes bank on elective procedures and the politicians who will back anything that gets the votes. Btw now that there is no more votes or ways to make money off the trans community, how’s that movement going? Oh let’s not forget the blanket pardons that that were given to Fauci for his crimes before he left, those are the caliber of medical professionals you’re talking about correct?

Michael Thew

It’s ok, they eat their own base. Kinda like firebombing teslas that mostly libs bought to get back at the boss..

Michael Thew

The difference is that transition is recognized by medical professionals to be the best treatment, this includes physical transition and social transition.

Gabriel Prégent Terborch

Can’t believe we made it six whole posts before someone thinks they have a point by invoking Donald Trump. Colin can’t enforce a code of conduct on the POTUS, shocking I’m sure for you. And I hope you’re sitting down for this one, but Trump isn’t part of the LSM community. Come off it.

Dante B

Anyone else here a fan of irony about a post mentioning leftist extreamist ruining everything and here comes a leftist extreamist ruining everything

DOGE enthusiast

Then enlighten me, you got the floor. Until then they are no different than those with other body dysmorphia issues. So make it good

Michael Thew

Put me in the vast majority who is totally down with this code of conduct pivot. You have to go so far out of your way to be on this radar it’s unreal. No rules or warnings needed. If you see it, toss em. Good riddance.

Dante B

Well done.

Michael Trees

The level of misinformed bigotry about trans people in your comment is astounding.

Gabriel Prégent Terborch

Look up the video of Karl Jobst an Australian journalist and you will find that the story behind the sealed Mario on Pawnstars definitely is shady as fuck! Huge connections to WATA (game grading company) almost pyramid scheme like.

Davario

What the deal with you and the word literal, just say he insults his opponents. It does not make you sound smart, but does make you sound stuck up. Btw since it seems you’re new to the world of debating a topic, rehashing your same talking point again isn’t going to win. See I could say that the war on free speech, lying to yourself that Biden was a competent president, Trans in women’s sports, ILLEGAL immigration, mutilating children to gain points in the sick game your side plays and having no road to redemption in your eyes if you’d disagree with any little rule your side decides on are topics, then you would come back at me with a retort to those points. Not say, he’s mean to me twice. In case you forgot, we are not the United States of the world, we are the United States of America. So screw those other countries that thing we should be their piggy banks

Michael Thew

I appreciate Colin finally addressing the toxicity. Well said. Shouldn’t need to even be said. If people are paying you as patreon members and actively being assholes to anyone on the shows, that’s fucking weird. You are doing these people and the rest of us a favor banning them from the patreon.

Tristan Kimball

Bro, this is a PlayStation podcast comment section nobody cares what you think about Trump

DOGE enthusiast

Colin how dare you. A bidet is one of the best upgrades to your life you’ll ever make. Literally once you get one you’ll look back on your previous life with disdain and confusion, how did you live in such squalor?

Max Davis

darn timestamps are off by 3 minutes lol.. and that new unified podcast feed doesn't work for me like the past one didn't... but at least the separated feeds do!

Joe Piervincenti

As a longtime fan I really hope GameInformer’s revival does well, but I don’t think a game magazine/website is particularly viable these days especially when they’re owned by a video game studio heavily invested in NFTs.

Thomas

Literally, cool.

The Rose Experience

He literally insults his domestic political opponents, and most world leaders he speaks to, he has no sense of leadership.

Gabriel Prégent Terborch

Turning 46 next month, here’s to us old guys!

The Rose Experience

I think I’d have more respect for you if you could just tell the truth, Gab. He insulted you, not “literally” everyone. But in your life all that matters is you. You and those like you with TDS, have called the man and his supporters Nazis for going on 9 years now and 4 of those years he wasn’t even in office. Self reflect on why you lost 15 million votes in this last election, here is a hint it had nothing to do with the right.

Michael Thew

These are people who have both too much time on their hands as well as they're lacking the maturity to understand and respect that their own views are as subjective as the views of the people they hate or feel disapointed of for whatever reason. Let's wish them well.

TGBahr

I respect Colin's new stance on abusive behavior. I love LSM especially for the diverse cast of people who are very different in their tastes, world views, life paths and heritage. At 46 years of age, I know that there is something you can learn from everone, and that everybody just has their own subjective takes on issues. Also, we all naturally have our individual blind spots, because we all have our very individual life story.

TGBahr

At the 2:06:26 mark, you guys talked about PS6 but I can’t help but think about something. I think it’s a much better idea to continue the current gen for longer. Release PS6 in 2030 and have this gen go for 10 years. I know that business is business and if they see an opportunity to make money with a new console, they’ll do it. However, with the console chips being a pain to get for the first couple years, the income issues across the planet during the pandemic, and currently having many people still using the PS4, I feel as though this gen has been stymied by many factors and hasn’t reached its full potential at all. Let alone the live service push from PlayStation that held back many first party teams. I wouldn’t want this generation to boil down to third party games and a failed business practice. Pushing PS6 to 2030 would mean Naughty Dog, Santa Monica, Insomniac, and basically every other first party studio would have definitely ship at least one (maybe more) game on your current console and help the reputation of it in the future.

Sucking Duck for Quack

👏

Derek Hoffman

I don’t think either side should judge the other by their worst assholes. Both sides have plenty of them. Let’s just rid the assholes and hopefully we can come together a bit more.

Jared R

It is strange to me that people who pay to listen wind up saying unhinged, disgusting things to and about the hosts. Jokes are one thing, criticism is one thing, but outright spewing venom, i gotta agree with colin, just gtfo.

Matthew Christ

I love inside jokes. I hope to be apart one someday.

Michael Mashpotato

About an hour in so far and the timestamps are off. 40:20 starts about the unified feeds. 50:20 starts about Reddit. Not sure about the rest yet.

Bloated Backlog

These thumbnails are the best 😆

ZombiesNJ

Please spin off the Sacred Struggle Sessions

Stephen Lucey

Timestamps aren’t right

Frank

Don’t be stressed about few the negative elements, just close them and rid yourself of the headache. I believe almost all of us love the LSM crew and the wonderful content you give us, and I am sure even more fans will come to replace the bad apples.

Hashim Barakat

Bravo to Colin and his stance. Hopefully this extends to Discord which was likely the worst offender and turned many, including me, away for good. Also, this won’t sit well with some but it’s glaring that almost all those examples come from people obviously left leaning. Just immensely toxic stuff that taints almost every forum. So unhinged they can’t even talk civilly without some insane echo chamber talking points

The Rose Experience

I get not feeling like you need a code of conduct or any sort of written rules, but that feels like a country saying “We don’t need written laws, we’ll just exile anybody causing shit.” Sounds great in theory, but when you exile someone, being able to point to something that says “You violated this thing that this community deems unacceptable” makes people feel a lot easier and more open to offer criticism or feedback without fear of undue repercussions. People calling you an idiot or a propagandist or worse is definitely over the line, but without defining where that line is, I fear people who may feel like saying “I disagree with X person on Y point” might be scared of getting too close to it, and it’ll temper or squash the open discussion that I think makes this community really great. You always say there’s no political litmus test to be a part of this community, but without a clear set of rules that you can point to, banned people can just a post a screenshot of them being banned and claim it was “because I disagreed with their politics,” and really make people question that sentiment. I wish we could live in a world with no need for anything written down to tell people how to conduct themselves, but it’s been necessary for all of civilized human history, and that’s not going to change anytime soon. Be agressive, but just have some rules to point back to when you are. This is just my two cents though. Sorry people are assholes.

Jared R

At my brewery we made a batch of cordyceps and lionsmane farmhouse ale. It was funky

Soulful Bison

The problem with concepts like the Sacred League is that the other Sacred hosts clearly don’t care, and who could blame them.

Stephen Lucey

That episode was great, gonna give it a second listen tonight. Cheers guys!

StewDog

Bitch I’m not even listening. I pay to complain but don’t even consume. I’m awesome.

Russell Garrett

I just started the episode but I’m already complaining

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