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Constellation, Episode 88 | Three Old Men Talking About Video Games

Welcome to "a very special episode" of Constellation, Last Stand Media's conversational podcast. This week, I (Colin) am joined by a duo of guests as opposed to our traditional trio: Punching Up's Gene Park and storied game designer David Jaffe. In an unusual (though not unprecedented) move, I asked the guys not to come prepared with any topics this week. Instead, I thought we'd just chat about whatever and see where that brought us. Perhaps not surprisingly, a lack of a concrete plan led us into nearly three hours of video game talk about a wide variety of topics: Concord, Astro Bot, Drawn to Death, Jim Ryan, Mark Cerny, Naughty Dog, The Last of Us Online, Killzone, Resistance, Uncharted, God of War, PlayStation games going to Xbox, Phil Spencer, Bobby Kotick, Nintendo, Super Switch, and on and on. We hope you enjoy.

Constellation, Episode 88 | Three Old Men Talking About Video Games Constellation, Episode 88 | Three Old Men Talking About Video Games
Constellation, Episode 88 | Three Old Men Talking About Video Games Constellation, Episode 88 | Three Old Men Talking About Video Games Constellation, Episode 88 | Three Old Men Talking About Video Games

Comments

Man jaffe is blind

Jerry Huerta

I love Jaffe

Ellis

Such a presumptuous reply, you're quite disgusting dude.

Fotis Lyto

I hope you can find peace in your life.

Stevie Q

It was one of the monthly Q&A

The Rose Experience

Recently on a podcast, I’m not sure which, Colin said he’s most likely voting for Trump. It might have been on a Q&A. Actually I’m sure it was.

The Rose Experience

Yes, the left took a slogan that did those things and used it to label the entirety of Trump voters as something they want to shame. Ultimately it’s an irrelevant misnomer, Trump voters are Republicans.

The Rose Experience

The liberals are the one that took MAGA and ran with it?....Not the actual party promoting, repeating, making money off of the term/merch? That's certainly a take.

Gooch Gobbler

they are talking about twitter my guy

Gooch Gobbler

Bullshit Jaffe, you don't take Trump for what he said, I'm pretty sure that you blame Trump for the Jan 6 "insurrection" but he said to the rioters to go home, so you don't care what he said just what he means. I'm not saying Trump is good, I don't care really since I'm not American, my problem is that in politics people take the worst possible interpretation of what their "opponent" is saying. It has also become like that in the Internet, going in reddit is disgusting because anyone thinks the other person is the worst person ever. I was called a fucking Nazi there because I did not like the Obi Wan series...

Fotis Lyto

Would have been funny if you left Jaffe as he is in the thumbnail.

mcarbra

Yeah Colin has never said that ever. I believe what he has said in the past is something along the lines of “If someone had a gun to my head then I would vote Trump” and that was specifically referring to if it was between him and Biden.

Cyprus Davis

~2:23:00 Colin said Chris is shadow banned. I just typed "Chris r" into YouTube (app) and got suggested Chris's channel. So at least here in Germany Chris is not shadow banned. Just fyi

Christian Felgentreter

Come on man are you seriously suggesting that there's no difference between your standard Bush-era Republican and the hardcore ride or die Trump people? Youve gotta be living under a rock. But like you said you live in Canada so maybe you're not getting the full picture. You don't have a horse in the race either so it's really irrelevant. You're not voting for any of them but hey you're welcome to your opinions about America like all those damn Europeans. (This is a joke.) I should add I'm also not voting for either of them. And yes I agree painting "MAGA" (like it or not it's in the lexicon) as the enemy isn't a good thing. But they're painting liberals as the enemy every day too, so at some point one of them has to grow up and extend an olive branch.

Michael Welter

Where did Colin say he was voting for Trump? Thats completely fine but can you point to a time stamp in a show? I believe he'd said he's not voting for any of these clowns. Or are we just saying things.

Michael Welter

There is no difference, like at all. Colin not liking Trump initially was his prerogative, but he’s now going to vote for him in this election. I guess he’s MAGA now and falls under this entire thing? MAGA is a bullshit PR term the left took and ran with and in doing so, tried to coin the entire party as such to ostracize them as the enemy. It’s an evil tactic frankly.

The Rose Experience

I love how it’s so extreme with you people. I’m Canadian, I don’t have a dog in this fight, but I can point out how stark that entire thing was compared to what LSM has generally been about without somehow crying about it. You just pointed out something both sides do only the left goes much further with their rhetoric in relation to your point. Rhetoric that almost got Trump killed by the way. Love how that’s somehow been lost in all this, wonder why…

The Rose Experience

Absolute W jaffe for bringing up Ready or Not. That game is amazing.

DIS-Bee

Really sounds like you don't listen to any of the shows. Chris is liberal, Jaffe is liberal, Cog is liberal atleast somewhat. There's nothing wrong with that. You want them to kill themselves too?

Michael Welter

@Joshua - First off, you're assuming you know who I'm voting for; shame on you. Secondly, Dems want open borders, want to let all the Venezuelans and Haitians illegally run amok, want to fund wars like Ukraine and Palestine, want to take away 2nd and 1st amendment rights... I can keep going. How is this NOT destroying the country? Think before you speak little Joshy. Educate yourself on everything I have just said and maybe you will level yourself up. We are done here. Good day and goodbye.

Jason

Lol ok bye. You're not welcome in this community acting like you are anyway. See you in the comments section later you're not going anywhere. Do you not listen to anything Colin says? About how everyone is welcome. Just admit you're wrong man you don't have to be such an angry little baby about it. This Patreon is a welcome place for everyone regardless of political affiliation. If you can't respectfully disagree and you're telling someone you disagree with to kill themselves maybe you need to do some growing up. You're acting like a child.

Michael Welter

As a Rams fan I'm happy for you bois

Joshua

You're voting for a guy who literally does what you're complaining about. How is Trump saying Dems want to destroy the country any different at all?

Joshua

He hates fascists lol

Joshua

It's ok bro we can disagree I still respect you. But if you're gonna tell me to kill myself maybe you're not in the right here.

Michael Welter

Colin called my political philosophy "dumb as fuck" in this episode but you don't see me acting like a snowflake and acting like I'm some victim. You fail to recognize the hypocrisy of voting for someone who literally claims the left and democrats want to "destroy this country" and then complaining about someone insulting your side. Why can Trump say Dems are all trying to destroy the country but Jaffe can't say MAGA voters are mean?

Joshua

1:41:33 Colin as a Marxist I'll always still love you. Even though you think I'm dumb as fuck, it's okay I find your economics dumb as fuck too but we can get along. Wish I could make the show in SD, my favorite network and favorite NA city.

Joshua

You've been here since the beginning? Then you remember that Colin left the Republican party because of Trump. MAGA Republicans are a whole different faction of the Republican party. And that's true from the left and right perspective. That's not a controversial statement either. Maybe you don't want to admit it because you're a part of it but it's just a fact.

Michael Welter

Was there also! Hard fought win

Otacon_Ocelot

Yes, it’s no better at all there and those comments remain the only ones of their kind on this platform and I’ve been here since the beginning. MAGA is meaningless, it was a slogan that the left have harnessed to try and demonize the other side, essentially it means anyone who’s voting for Trump which are Republicans so in essence, he’s calling nearly half of America ignorant assholes. I’m not sure how you’d think this constellation discussion was any better or softened it.

The Rose Experience

Lol ok dude. I'm not the one crying. Have you listened to the latest Constellation where Colin and Jaffe talked about it? Probably not because you're a giant baby that can't listen to Jaffe anymore because he doesn't like MAGA Republicans. Grow up dude.

Michael Welter

This was a great episode. This trio has real magic between them.

Samurai Costanza

To the discussion of game ownership, I think maybe why we hold on to physical media has to do with the very unique nature of games. An album or a movie is going to run you around $10-20ish, whereas games cost much more. Plus, music and movies/shows are much more easily put online and experienced. There’s no need for input like a game requires. Keep physical games alive! (losing battle, I know)

Alan Wake 2 - Alan WOKE

Nice shirt colin

Vito Chiaramonte

If you're complaining about Jaffes politics being on the show you're a part of the problem. Colin rails against left wing twitter being an echo chamber and you want to have a right wing echo chamber here? Come on.

Michael Welter

Something tells me when he uses that term, it isn’t a literal, clinical diagnoses. This comment on the other hand, pretty autistic.

Dante B

Jaffe I’ve great time for you, but you know who else retorted with your mom jokes? Adam Sessler the loon bag

Daddy T

Jaffe is a new age Nazi

Kevin Miller

The end conversation killed me

Ryan Zimm

We all do..

Adam Barnes

I miss Dagan

NukeDukem

For sure, like criterion and special edition 4k’s for films. It’s niche but it’s there and gaining ground, inch by inch. Saying that, I do believe games are different and until the infrastructure is in place for a few years, we aren’t close to adopting streaming for games. Evening optimal settings it’s still spotty

The Rose Experience

Also - physical media has made a huge comeback in music as a nerd. It might be somewhat “niche” but I would argue that vinyl sales are anything but. A 1000 copy pressing of an album will make an artist more money than a billion Spotify streams

Bartevious

Jaffe’s point of antiquated ownership initially bristles the soul. Historically he’s correct ala film and music, but Gene’s counter was better and has precedent on his side. People tend to revert as they get older, they adopt the practices of their elders and get smarter and wiser. Young people also don’t spend money, or vote, or commit to much of anything.. More importantly it’s why young people skew progressive Liberal and then when they grow up and have to pay for things realize it’s all rainbow and unicorn bullshit and move to conservatism. You’re welcome and yes, I liked my own comment.

The Rose Experience

Colin thinks that Black Eyed Peas wrote and performed Ms. Jackson, he might have a touch of the tism himself /s

Bartevious

😂😂😂

Bartevious

Painful look here Jaffe. You’re a console warrior with politics

Bartevious

Man, I know this ain’t the place for it but I’m flabbergasted. The return of Arrogant Sony?

Alan Wake 2 - Alan WOKE

Hey David, I fucked your whore ex wife hahaha right in her dirty piss scented pussy hahahaha it’s funny cause it’s vulgar you see, her pussy smelled like ammonia hahahaha but that didn’t stop me from fucking the old nasty bitch hahahah isn’t that so funny hahaha she whispered into my ear what a useless queer you were in bed hahahah you gotta love that gen x brand of safe edge hahaha I’m a run of the mill liberal bore but I say vulgar things so I think I’m avant garde ahahah it’s sooooo funny uahahah gen x baby!!!!

Brandon V

I was talking to Jaffe, so…

Brandon V

Not doing the normal topic by topic format was awesome. Really loved it. I’d love to see it when it doesn’t center on games!

Diddy’s Dong Quest

Hearing the name New Line Cinema has triggered some memories for me. When I was 5 my mom took me to the commodore theater in Williamsburg Brooklyn to see Freddy’s final nightmare in 3D. She made me wear the green and red glasses and since that day I still can’t watch Freddy movies. Whenever I saw the new line cinema logo I always feared the worst. It wasn’t until my favorite movie of all time Rush Hour came out that I grew out of fearing the logo.

Michael Mashpotato

Socom will never come back because the first thing you think of is the PSN outage and Sony doesn’t want anyone to remember that time

Michael Thew

I wish somebody would tell Colin that’s not how autism works 😭 I know it’s funny but for someone that works with autistic children and young adults, Mark Cerny is far from Autistic lol

D'Ante Almo

I’ve been hearing consoles are dying since I was a kid and at this point I’m pretty sure I’ll be hearing the same shit when I’m old. One of the things Mike Ybarra said on that thread on twitter was how this narrative feels false and it’s being pushed by those losing the console war.

Breno Bezerra Bluhm

@Madsines - Thankyou for your feedback. I shall take a long self reflective look in the mirror soon. Or maybe I won't. People are allowed to say "fuck off" to someone who told them to "fuck off" first. I think everything is going to be fine. Christ.

Jason

Not really doing yourself any favours here Jason. It's gonna be okay man, lighten up. Christ.

Madsines

Did it not age jaffe in the pic? 😂 Jokes jaffe your as sexual as ever

Beaver diva

Awesome episode guys, love this trio!

Harry Stone

I just want to point out that you guys say things about Gen Z as a whole that is only true for a quarter of the generation. Gen Z is generally considered those born 1997-2012 so 14-27.

Quinnton PNW

Same!

Adam Martinez

@Brandon V - I support your freedom of speech. Have a good day buddy! <3

Jason

You’re such a disgusting fucking loser

Brandon V

Good to see Keith Olbermann back on the pod

Brandon V

Why’d you type liberals/pedophiles like they’re not interchangeable and mean the same thing

Scott

This thumbnail should be on a hoodie

NecrumOddBoy

The back-and-forth between Jaffe and Gene regarding modern PlayStation's game design philosophy was fantastic. I could watch hours more of them dissecting this single topic.

Adam Razak

One of the best conversations in LSM history.

Brent

This was a great conversation, great chemistry with you three

Queef Wellington

This podcast was amazing. Please give us more of this wonderful trio 🔥

Adam Martinez

Uhm, mom jokes are like...the BEST jokes.

David Jaffe

Jaffe, I’m opposed to you politically on pretty much everything you say. However, the most offensive thing you’ve ever uttered is calling Lara Croft, Laura. Stop it.

Adam Barnes

Disappointing. You paint an entire group of people with one brush stroke and insult them... Then when you get insulted back you have nothing in the tank except mom jokes. How disappointing indeed. Fuck off bud! <3

Jason

Oooof Jaffe. The facebook political talking points are a bit much 😂 my 2 cents is cool it a tish on all these “objective” political takes that “cannot be argued”. Love your work on games and think you come across as a nice dude. Peace and love

Bartevious

Jaffe, as someone who is almost always annoyed by people in the MAGA crowd, stand down. No one likes hearing people morally elevate themselves over an entire group of people over differing ideologies or opinions. There’s peoples grandparents for example who you may find ignorant for their beliefs, but are helpful and caring people in their communities. Especially if you spend time in more rural parts of the country.

Bartevious

$50/5 MIN $250/10 MIN $1000/11 MIN + 50$ EVERY ADDITIONAL MINUTE Please let your mom know I AM now taking Paypal. Apologies for the delay but the sorts of services I provide have taken a while to convince such sites that our work is valid and needed (I mean, it's not like anyone else is fucking your mom, amirite?!? HAW! You know I am, you saucy scamp!)

David Jaffe

You guys are a fucking awesome mix! More from Gene, Colin, and Jaffe please…

Simon Freeman

A Cassie Drake game makes sense because how many times will audiences really want to see Nathan Drake go through the same damn arc every game?

Zackery Parkerson

Love gene and jaffe together

Caleb Peacock

Idiot sandwich

john spatta

They cancelled the last of us online just in case it was a success and they'd have to support it. The mind boggles

Simmo

Don’t we all wish we could confide in Arthur Morgan?

Noah Friscopp

Surprised this episode isn't 10 hours #teamyappers love it

Pediatrician Disrespect

Should have stopped after that first sentence my guy.

Dante B

It’s not that deep bro

c0bra_dog

Fuck you Jaffe.

Jason

Jaffe with some great points this episode. Appreciated.

Pan Ic

Are you ok?

Christopher Gourley

Asto Bot pulling tremendous scores post Concord is telling. The market is signaling disgust at games marketed to liberals/pedophiles. Nuclear family fun is in.

Rufián

I'm still salty about that OT loss to the Lions lol. On to week 2.

Jorge Aponte

Oldies

Robbie Agnew

Always a treat to hear from Jaffe

Fella

The three certified #YAPPERS. Love this

FoundWaldo

I was looking at the middle, thinking that had to be Colin’s uncle, until I finally looked at Gene and figured it out. Well played.

Alan Wake 2 - Alan WOKE

Oh hell yeah what a treat.

Michael Welter

George Carlin bout to drop crazy truth bombs 🔥

🌊Finna D. Fresh Flow🌊

👴🏻👴🏻👴🏻 inject it in into my veins!!!

Tom Gentry

Love the thumbnail and am so hyped to listen!

Queef Wellington

Colin in the thumbnail is amazing 🤣🤣🤣

Ross Stoddart

Jimmy deserves an award for this one 👴🤣

Meatball

Oh hell yeah

Connor Reese

🤜🤛Old men listening to old men talking about games Go Lions!

Otacon_Ocelot


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