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Sacred Symbols, Episode 321 | Stolen Treasure

What we assumed would ultimately happen has come to pass: Machinegames' upcoming Indiana Jones title is indeed coming to PlayStation 5. Between Minecraft, Call of Duty, and Bethesda -- not to mention Xbox Studios itself -- Microsoft has quickly become one of Sony's biggest third party partners, and we suspect things are still just getting started. Other news this week includes the announcement of Borderlands 4, new Mafia and Dying Light games, word of Sea of Thieves' meteoric success on PS5, impressive Silent Hill 2 Remake gameplay footage, tons of Astro Bot spoilers, pricing details for Until Dawn Remake, and more. As usual, listener inquiries help us round things out. How come rank-and-file developers never get the blame for bad games? Can Chris guide a new Destiny 2 player through the trials and tribulations of figuring things out? Which upcoming PlayStation-aligned game-as-a-service has the most potential? Has Colin yet again offended the sensibilities of the Irish?

Timestamps:
0:00:00 - Introduction

0:15:39 - Irish Olympics

0:23:54 - Chris Chan arrested

0:36:11 - Jets fandom

0:40:50 - The passage of time

0:50:30 - The Tales of Kenzera controversy

1:14:30 - Silent Hill 2 Remake footage

1:22:38 - Until Dawn Remake costs $60

1:28:07 - Astro Bot character spoilers

1:39:25 - Concord's development woes

1:47:17 - Sea of Thieves sold 1 million copies on PS5

1:53:46 - Civ 7 has a release date

1:59:22 - Marvel Rivals has a release date

2:03:31 - Amazon's animated shorts

2:09:25 - TGA 2024 has a date

2:10:31 - What We're Playing

2:45:26- Indiana Jones comes to PS5

3:28:29 - Borderlands 4 has been revealed

3:36:04 - Dying Light: The Beast

3:41:54 - Mafia: The Old Country

3:48:20 - The Dark Pictures anthology gets a new game

3:53:28 - EA Sports CF25 Sales data

4:03:54 - Recommendations From Others

4:09:16 - Does management get a bad rep?

4:14:16 - Which of Sony's multiplayer games has the most potential?

4:17:31 - Destiny 2 is too convoluted

4:20:52 - Gaming memories

4:30:10 - Castlevania's modernity

Sacred Symbols, Episode 321 | Stolen Treasure Sacred Symbols, Episode 321 | Stolen Treasure
Sacred Symbols, Episode 321 | Stolen Treasure Sacred Symbols, Episode 321 | Stolen Treasure Sacred Symbols, Episode 321 | Stolen Treasure

Comments

"I don't think the game's just going to disappear off the planet... " ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

Kevin Cooper

Can’t wait until Xbox bringing their games to PlayStation is enough of a news story of it bringing their games to pc. Guess it will just take some people more time.

Aaron

So this is your grand example of it being “all over” the game? Come on man.

Gooch Gobbler

Do you know how parents work?

Special Needs Cannon

I wish everyone would take their angry, culture war bullshit and cram it up their ass.

jordan allen burton

never platform colt. he's a disease.

Alyssa

"Xbox games are now Ps5 games is why we talk about Xbox games on this show." Proceeds to talk about Indiana Jones for 4 minutes and Xbox console hardware and brand for 1hr 13 minutes.

Eric Golley

Funny, I remember Bill Maher having the same setup when he performed in CT. He still killed it, but it threw me off at first cause I had never seen that before with a standup.

Surge!

I would love a Colin vs Colteastwood episode, lol. That guy is such a lying little bitch

Jacob Lesperance

Proud of Chris for playing more games. Love hearing his commentary on them

Alec Davis

Jaffe is a slur

Brandon V

Yes

ajwhite

Yup. Play your backlog, try some games on sale, hell download some old-school ROMs and play some old games for nostalgia. That's what's keeping me occupied until Astro Bot.

Respect The Plight

Idk about that, Alan Wake 2 didnt sell very well

YP-Berserk

Is that what we call not liking people now?

Ice Slice

Chris has a serious case of Elon Derangement Syndrome

ajwhite

Let's get Brad in here in Dustins absence!

TreyDogg

Funny hearing Colin say wukong would sell 10 mil in a couple months. A safe prediction. Nobody would’ve expected it to sell 10 mil in 10 days. That’s Tears of the Kingdom territory holy shit.

Dylan Michael

Controller gate

AllTooEasy_

Jaffe isn't calling anyone slurs. He's certainly not making you call people slurs. If you have a problem with his behavior then say that, and be better than that behavior you are criticizing. He's especially not calling specific people in this community slurs. That's what's happening to me and I don't think I should have to experience that. I've encouraged others to join this community and told them it was a welcoming place as long as you are ok having your viewpoints challenged. Now I regret that decision because of how some of y'all act

Gooch Gobbler

Yeah, people who switch sports teams even if they move somewhere aren't real fans.

Michael Brennan

David Jaffe made this community toxic. Every show he is on he has the green light to name call and insult people. I will happily match that energy until he reels it in. This community has multiple leftists who have voiced their opinions on the podcasts for years without the insults. Jaffe is a deranged individual who has deluded himself into thinking he’s a kind person and nobody on the shows challenge him on it ever, so I will be here to do so.

Brandon V

Yeah totally normal that the women with Norse lineage is black

Brandon V

The best part about having time stamps is that you can easily avoid all of the DEI talk that seems to always make its way onto this program. There are many people out there who can discuss this issue from both sides, but here at LSM there is only the same opining thoughts that keeps repeating itself week after week. I also love the comments that say "go outside" whenever someone has an opinion on the topic that they disagree with. Lame. Would that comment make sense to someone who... works outside? But yes, we working class just aren't very smart.

Alex

Nothing much to say or argue other than I really hate that there are people in this community that feel it's ok to call people slurs every week. I really don't have to agree with you, that's why I love LSM, not an echo chamber, but we shouldn't have to deal with this in the community, I hope someone from the team sees this and something changes. Treat people with respect

Gooch Gobbler

Can you give me some examples of how DEI is "all over Alan Wake 2"? There was hardly anything black centric, even about the black characters....

Gooch Gobbler

Fuck you

Gooch Gobbler

worst person in this community, GTFO with your homophobic trash

Gooch Gobbler

he's going to start calling them "confused people with a bias based on skin color" lol

Gooch Gobbler

It was just Colin and his hand and they had to go and add a black. Unsubbed

Gooch Gobbler

dude I literally bought a dual sense that had stick drift RIGHT out of the box. Quit gaslighting people lol. Glad you have been lucky though

Gooch Gobbler

The Canadian is allowed to pick a NFL team as they don’t have real football in Canada. They are not allowed to pick a new NHL, MLB, or NBA team. You stick with the Leafs (Fuck Tavares), Blue Jays, and Raptors and you like it!

Glen Yelenovic

Hearing Chris and Colin say the words “County Cork” was not on my bingo card today

Daddy T

How is it ever a lull to be a gamer, doesn't everyone like me have a giant backlog that they will never complete?

Eric J

DEI marriage got me.

Pan Ic

As if gay people don’t have to play overtly straight games that they can’t identify with all the time. 😂

ConcordRemastered

What came out from March 1- until Sept 2024 ? 6 months of nothingness. It’s a weak year that picks up in the final quarter . I’m excited for space marine , Astro Bot , Indiana Jones but The 6 month lull was brutal . It was basically SoE during that period . Colin even referenced multiple times how difficult it was to find material for the show . Kinda playing both sides here

Scott Yodoff

Weird AF I watch that John Oliver Video the day before I listened to this. It’s like 10 years old super random lol

Draven E.

Who made that thumbnail, it's fucking diabolical son, nice one.

Asique Alam

I love the fact that you knew you fucked up when you called out Ireland 🤣

Cormac

I'd never heard of that Evotinction game until Colin casually mentioned it, looks really cool

Greg McDonald

Except I've had no problems with my controllers UNTIL this generation. One of my original two DualSenses has stick drift , and I bought a second PS5 and the controller that came with it got stick drift within a month. And don't get me started on Joycons.

Joseph Gedgaudas

Please name 3 “overtly gay games.” Go ahead and be my guest

Michael McCoy

you’ve just been incredibly lucky with joy cons. Literally every single person I know that has had a Switch has eventually gotten joy con drift. It’s such a common issue that Nintendo was literally offering free repairs if you shipped your joy cons to them. Definitely not the consumers fault

Michael McCoy

It's hilarious that all those people Colin keeps trying to reason with and refuses to call racists end up making racists remarks against his own wife and he still refuses to use the R word lmfao.

Andre Watt

Yeah I’ve heard that a lot that’s why I was hoping Colin and Chris would give a more nuanced take on DEI consulting firms like Sweet baby but I’ve heard “Racists on the internet are attacking Sweet Baby” probably 1000x but have yet to hear why DEI consulting firms don’t detract from the creative process of making a game with politics no one wants in media OR if DEI consultants contribute to making a game better. It’s all crickets after that but there’s a lot of people lined up to call out people attacking Sweet baby in bad faith but that is not new or interesting not sure why they keep bringing it up we get it.

Krusher99

I forgot to post this last week but it came up. I understand there’s a chance that you might get a faulty controller, but I have never gotten stick drift on a 1st party controller on any of the 3 console manufacturers. Dual Shock 3 & 4 that came with the console. Dual Sense. Dual Sense Edge. Multiple Xbox and Xbox Elites. Switch Pro and 6 Joycons. I buy a lot of controllers so this is off the top of my head. You know who has gotten stick drift in my house? My son. My filthy son. If every controller you have gets stuck drift it’s because you’re dirty. Wash your hands. Don’t eat while you play. As soon as my son stopped playing with dirty hands, problem solved. Take care of your controllers. Additionally, I play a lot of FPS, Souls, & fighting games. So I play a lot of games that require quick reflexes and could lead to controller damage, yet still no problems.

Xemphanis

Let me know when Alan Wake II breaks even

WashedAF

Colin thinking 10m sold for Wukong in a few months. Wukong: hold my gourd, I'll do it in 3 days xD

Baden Ronie

Cringe

Brian Hunter

Anti-white American 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

JT

It’s so dumb but I am definitely making that joke with my wife now.

JT

The monkey in Black Myth Wukong sounds like the great wize wizard in the movie “Your Highness”. I could not stop laughing at the voice acting in the beginning of the game.

Michael Mashpotato

To the former Torontoian, if you're willing to ditch your old teams for the new ones where you moved then you were always a bandwagon fan to begin with. And going from the Blue Jays to the Yankees? You were never really a fan of the team to begin with if you make that swap to a rival. My neighbour is from Detroit, moved here 30 years ago and is still a Tigers and Red Wings fan. My guess is you were a huge Raptors fan in 2019 lol

The Late Nate

I'm just gonna say it... I fuckin love Concord

Ser Gahndo

That’s what Colin said there is examples of this but when people don’t pick the right battles then everyone stops listening.

Garry

Hey “man” if you want to play overtly gay games that no one can identify with or enjoy then be my guest. Many of us don’t.

CUMSoftware

No, YOU need to give genuine attention to the actual intention of DEI (which is just to be anti-white American) and the games that implement it with that intention. Moreover, like Colin, YOU need to not pull the one wrong example of a DEI game and focus on the 99 others that are so blatant about it. Women argue like this.

CUMSoftware

Not remembering the act of losing your virginity but remembering you played Dreamcast after is WILD. 🤣

NeO JD

The Game Awards recognize plenty of trash that don't sell as much as Hogwarts Legacy.

Joseph Gedgaudas

Ehh the fact that sweet baby is the only dei consultant attacked when there are many out there makes me feel like the criticism is deeply unserious and only exists because a couple culture warriors don’t like sweet baby specifically. Idk that’s just bankrupt in my opinion.

Zachary Beach

So Indy is stealing the Xbox because it’s treasure and replacing it with the decoy PS5 ?🧐

Joshua Brown

This thumbnail is simply superb.

OrochiNewsTeam

Dude you're in way to deep. Please stop flooding your feed with grifters that have a financial incentive to keep angry. Trust me you will be way happier.

Dennis

Guys idk if this matter but I am so drunk in Michigan going to sleep listening to you guys god bless lol

Josh P

You’re the DEI hire in her family

Caleb Peacock

The most comically feminine man in here clutching pearls, irony 😂

Scott

No

Brandon V

Crazy DEI marriage. Micah is awesome man what a shitty thing to say.

nicholas

Colin is 100% right about Tales of Kenzara: Zau. I’ve done my due diligence and platinumed the game as well and there’s no DEI DNA in this game. At all. If we want to have honest conversations about DEI that get to the heart of the argument, then we need to actually do the work to analyze games and the gaming industry deeper than surface level (i.e. Sweet Baby Inc. worked on Alan Wake 2 and Kenzara: Zau, therefore compromised). It’s a lazy, dishonest way of approaching the conversation and does nothing to further the discourse in a meaningful way.

Evan

DEI marriage lol

Andre Watt

Black myth has already sold 10 million copies Holy shit

Alyssa

‘Hogwarts legacy treatment at the game awards’ - brother, the game just wasn’t very good 😭

Light The Idea

Shut up. Alan Wake II is a great game take your nonsense somewhere else

RIPIT

Top tier thumbnail, well played

Adam Barnes

I fast forwarded so hard during the astro bot section. I'm so excited. I bought two controllers for astro bot. One to play it with and one to keep sealed

Ding Dong

I’m sure so many people who are “concerned about SBI” with Kenzara loved Alan Wake 2 😂

Diddy’s Dong Quest

I don’t really care about Sweet baby or DEI but most of the criticism I hear about both is that they are a worthless distraction to prioritize in making a good game. Chris made the point that a lot of DEI/sweet baby games are just bad games and it’s like yeah that’s the point maybe if they focused on making a good game instead of catering to an audience that doesn’t care and won’t play the games anyways people would have fun with the product. It is a pointless endeavor and gamers just want devs to focus on making the game the best it can be and not on American diversity politics. I feel that you guys have talked a lot before about DEI and Sweet baby but have failed to address most peoples problem with it in their games.

Krusher99

My wife isn’t white so I guess I’m in a DEI marriage too Colin. 🤣

Patrick Pratt

You know there are legitimate arguments with weight behind them. You don’t have to make them up.

Special Needs Cannon

It is curious why a black dev team would need to hire consultants to make a game about black people, it’s almost like SBI is a fake company of grifters

Brandon V

What are you, the hall monitor?

Brandon V

You people are deranged

Brandon V

But the terminally online need to fight the woke!!

Joshua Jones

I really truly don’t care about SBI. Some games they are involved with are fine, others are not. To me that signals that it’s the developer that the ire should be directed at.

Noah Trujillo

Beautiful thumbnail, fellas

Jeece

Kys

Jeece

Get the fuck out of here you fucking racist.

Karel Lopata

Since you guys are showing interest in Civ 7 and the franchise, wonder what you guys think of Crusader Kings 3 and if it’s something you would play. Think it’s packaged with PS Plus Extra or something. Super nerdy 4x strategy game with fun dynastic drama. Rather than about a nation or empire, it’s about your dynasty between 846 and 1453. Worth a look.

Ignorant Primate

Rufián

I fucking love that thumbnail, brilliant

Gareth Handa

Just spitballing, Colin. Bring back a fireside chat, invite Chris Chan to your house. Have a 3 hour in depth conversation with the guy. That would be hot fire

Michael Thew

No one picked up on the Seaman pun that Chris made smh

Deutschbag

What a thumbnail 😀

Patrick Pratt

As I said from the start, anyone who has played >Observer knows that Bloober team understand atmosphere and sound. Never doubted them. No one ever talks about observer despite it being top tier cyberpunk. Sucks that Colin completely ignored it when he was on his walking sim kick, as its one of the best in the genre

Brandon V

No

Sascha Lichtenstein

Did you mean to post this twice?

Joseph Gedgaudas

The Chris Chan bodycam footage is peak media.

Noah Friscopp

If your game uses SBI everything you do will be painted by that brush. SBI is an illegitimate group of con artists, racists and far left psychopaths who have no place in the industry. If you don’t want your game painted as garbage, don’t use SBI. That simple. You can see SBI all over Alan Wake 2 and it absolutely hurts that games immersion and world.

Brandon Van Cleave

I lived overseas for about 5 years and I can 100% vouch for what Chris said about time slowing down with everything being new again

Jordan

Two things: 1. This thumbnail is amazing 2. I hope Dustin and Holly are doing well❤️

Dominic Brant

Colin was right!

KendrickLuck

Black myth wukong has sold 10 million copies in 3 days… Across just 2 platforms…Just another shining example that the market at large does not give a fuck or even notice negative discourse in the gaming space. On twitter and youtube you would have thought that this game would be dead on arrival or just a fart in the wind. I knew this game would be a hit. People really need to start contextualizing that the discourse they see on line isn’t even representative of 5% of the market overall.

Big titty drinker

Who did the thumbnail this week? It's perfect.

Michael Welter

That thumbnail is pure gold. Cheers

Manuel Nascimento

Colin's Irish side tracing back to Cork makes so much sense lmao Btw I don't blame Colin for thinking Ireland would have a higher population (though 20m is a crazy guess lol). Most people will know about the famine, but probably not just how much of an effect it had - in the 1840s the population of Ireland was about 8.5m, and the island still hasn't recovered to that amount. Civil war and poor economic conditions led to huge emigration even long after the famine, and it's only really in recent decades that you can see real growth with the improvement of the economy.

Deemac

The PS Stars TOS email that came out last night was very strange- no doubt the result of whatever exploit was found that caused the service to go offline for several months earlier this year

StewDog

Outstanding thumbnail!!

Ross Stoddart

Perfect thumbnail

Zack Apuzzo

Haha perfect thumbnail.

Ethereal Pizza

Microsoft releasing most of their big titles on PS5 six months to a year after they hit Xbox and Gamepass day 1 seems like a pretty good compromise on their end, as it basically gives their fans some benefit to staying in the ecosystem. It’s not unlike the compromise Playstation fans seem likely to face in the future, as more and more Sony exclusives head to PC about a year later. Do you buy the platform that allows you to get the game immediately, or are you content to wait and get it on the platform you primarily play on?

Sascha Lichtenstein

Thumbnail of the year!!!

Carl Wallace

Thumbnail game never disappoints

Mattveego

Amazing thumbnail

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