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Agatha All Along Ep 5

So much happened in those final minutes

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LOL im mad I said Mr. Shart too hahahaha

Neeko

Bro made a hate comment unrelated to the original. That's some top tier hatred right there 💀💀

Corey Leach

"She's been calling him teen the whole show," except all the times she didn't... lmao great reaction guys

Foxyguava

Pretty Odd Innit? 😂

Orlandez Malone

they were out, so this weeks episode got pushed to next week

K Jack

Where? Is episode six

Sam Adams

I figured he was Wiccan with him being gay and witch related.

P J

Loki was among the worst one for u? U shud stop watching tv or any media of content altogether buddy. Or just go and watch bob the builder or shinchan may be

Jay

Please do the Expanse!

avino

I’m just doing my best to keep these shows on their mind as they move forward. Whatever happens I’m cool with, but I’m gonna keep advocating for these. We saw their Severance reactions and how goated those were. I feel these 3 could live up to that.

GrayStark

i mean who tf cares. This show is probably one of the worst MCU shows up there with She Hulk and Loki. nobody cares about a sidecharackter from a show about a sidecharackter.

Jack Hyperion

Banshee is good but dont feel like its reaction material

Pablo

Y'all just forgot the schedule?

ShaquanVirse

Yep let's all take Gary's word for it.

Jamaal Ellison

^ 0 evidence or reasoning given all caps being the only way you attempt to get your flimsy point across. Yeah Gary here sounds like he knows what he’s talking about

GrayStark

FUCK BLACK SAILS THAT SHIT IS ASS

Gary

I love this but I'd like to add Banshee and For All Mankind.

Jamaal Ellison

Now that Agatha is nearing its end. BLACK SAILS The EXPANSE and SUCCESSION Are calling your name!

GrayStark

We heard her son in the ouji board though, unless she had two kids it doesn't make sense for teen to be conversing with her dead son.

Crow's Nest

I still think Teen is Agatha's kid. Imo, she knows that he's her son. Near the end of the episode, she's asking if he's sure that he wouldn't do something scandalous for power. Which he immediately turned around to do when push came to shove - just like Agatha seems to have done with her original coven. I'm fairly sure Rio lied about Agatha's child being dead. She still has a soft spot for Agatha, in the way that she stands up for her when everyone else wanted to jump down her throat. She wants Agatha to hurt like Agatha hurt her - but she still cares. And that's exactly why I think Rio took Agatha's son and spared him. She doesn't strike me as someone cold hearted, rather someone who is hurt. I think she took the baby and put the sigil on him as a form of protection.

Ren Lichtfoot

Billie - Wanda’s kid - said to Wanda in ear shot of Agatha when he was a kid talking about their recently dead dog that there’s always a way to fix things. Even death. He said it again about Alice and Agatha figured it out then. And there. As for Agatha, she’s a power addict. Like any addict confronted with what they’re addicted to. They reach for it. She did it without thinking and couldn’t bring herself to stop. Both because she couldn’t but also because deep down she didn’t want to stop in that moment. It felt good to her - the power.

Teyon Alexander

It probably gave her the same vibe when wanda didn’t like or didn’t want to become a witch.

Kim Sunoo

Alice might not be dead or her character isn’t finished yet, she might become a guide for the coven, just like in the ballad; if one be gone we carry on, spirit as our guide. Also, rio didn’t leave the trial yet so she might be taking care of alice’s soul, either leading her to the afterlife or giving alice her role as the spirit of the coven

Kim Sunoo

alice was my favorite so i was so in my feels and then all that stuff happened and i was like ?!?!?!?!?

Lemonkatze

I just realized this episode that I knew exactly who Teen is from the comics and was lowkey mad I didn't clock it first episode LMAO

Justin Neason

I agree with a lot of the stuff said before. Also, Rio didn't surface with the rest of them and she's supposed to be reminiscent of death right? So that is definitely going to play into the next episode

Tirzah

The sigil is gone so she could see who Teen really was, plus he could say her son’s name which meant Teen wasn’t her son. She isn’t possessed. Remember she hates Wanda and feels Wanda is a hypocrite. Of course she will hate Wanda’s son. Rio is death. Remember she talked about doing something she didn’t want to do which I think was gathering the body of Agatha’s son. I suspect she drained her son of power. Partly she wants to drain witches’ power and partly I think she can’t control it.

Felicia Williams

I would have loved to see how y’all reacted to Wanda Vision because we were all going through it 😭 Appreciate the three of you reacting to this it’s fun and it’s fun experiencing the chaos each week because what even was that ending đŸ€Ż

Narutofreak94

Or dealing with the body. She did say last episode she gets the bodies. She’s probably a weirdo who does spells and carves up dead bodies

Mel Issa

Dang mane this a confusing ah show mane

Touin90

My theory is that teeen/Billy/Wanda’s son was playing possum from the beginning. He came in there looking for Agatha
 he said in like the 2nd episode, he broke the spell Wanda had on her. Seems like he wanted to walk the road with her, get more power than maybe try to take her out for good. Maybe put the sigil on himself to throw them off.

Mack

When I saw this, here’s how I understood it: - Agatha can’t control her siphon powers or can’t regulate her craving like an addict (she seemed like she was enjoying stealing Alice’s magic but also seems like she’s guilty about it). - Agatha realized Teen was Wanda’s child when he gave his declaration that he won’t be a witch like Agatha, Jen and Lilia by trivializing lives and being selfish. It’s something Wanda told Agatha during their showdown. - Agatha’s realization caused her to laugh in derision and she’s playing into his idea that she is a villain. - Teen thew Lilia, Jen and Agatha because there was no remorse and they kept going without properly addressing Alice’s death, showing to him that witches are selfish even when they’re seemingly “united”in a coven.

K.

this show is awsome

Norman kay10

last few minutes were a fever dream idk if it was rushed or if there’s more to the story there down the latter

Url Robbo

Maybe teen put the sigil on himself maybe he didn’t remember who he was until the road that’s why he never saved Alice or used his powers

Jamie

They never did reactions on mcu stuff til Loki.

Isaac

Does anyone know what happened to the wandavision reactions?

Christian Santana

Remember how Lilia said to Alice in a previous episode: “Alice. Alice don’t-“ then “-try to save Agatha.” She’s been seeing bits and pieces of the future. Those moments where she says something that sounds random or nonsensical is actually her seeing the future.

vesra

Notice teens outfit in this episode resembles one of Billy's outfits from wandavision

Delilah Heldt

She's called him pet, familiar and teen before. Teen saying the name "Nicholas Scratch" confirmed it for Agatha that Teen wasn't her son, because the sigil allowed him to say the name. So with her emotions set aside she could figure out the only other possible person he could be is Wandas son. As for Agathas switch in the end I believe she realized Teen didn't believe her so she decided to play along as the villain. If people will call her that no matter what she does, she will play into it. I also believe her want for power is like an addiction. She can't control it, as in she can't control her need for power. So when Alice hits her with magic it's like showing a drug addict some drugs, of course she will take it. But hearing her sons name made her snap out of it. That's my theory.

Neburcs

Also I think they said in episode 2 that they can't use magic on The Road, that's why they have to use basic tedious witchcraft spells all the time (i think Alice was able to use hers cuz they were in the house and not on The Road). The fact he was able to use his Magic on The Road might indicate how strong he is. You have a good point about the brother too cuz I'm actually a twin and you're right, I absolutely would go looking for my brother before anyone else

Alexis Sullivan

ive also heard a theory that this was his trial and not Agatha's but i don't thiink that holds water

Ebronics

yo i was thinking the same. cuz the witch's road is for the coven and he wasn't in the "coven" but if they were down a witch then i could slot in and get a prize too.

Ebronics

fitting this is he was strong enough to brake into wanda's spell on Agatha with seemingly not magic of his own and he knew where to find her while she was in the spell wanda left her in. Billy would proably be able to do both of those. as for what he wants from the road? it might be his mom BUT i think its his brother. where's Speed? his twin? sure he might be trying to get wanda back but im thinking when their souls escapped they got seperated and as twins that proabably a pretty big deal

Ebronics

apparenatly in the comics she's like rogue but for magic. she can't help absorbing when hit

Ebronics

People have said this might not have been a real trial because the aspect ratio didn’t switch and now I’m just squinting suspiciously at the screen Plus the door out was going up, but all of the previous exit doors have been going DOWN, as in “down the Witches’ Road”

Bria A.

Agatha made a horrid mistake. Like the Queen of Fables said YOU GOTTA END THE BLOODLINE otherwise you got relatives seeking revenge on your ass.

Isaac

I agree, I think the power the darkhold gave her was the automatic ability to steal magic. And teen knew this which is why he didn’t blast her but used Jen and Lilia to throw her off the road

3CM0NEY2

queen of fables said it herself "you got to end the bloodline"

Ebronics

I don’t think she was born with that power. I think she gained that from the darkhold. If she was born with that magic then the Salemites wouldn’t have blasted her with their magic.

3CM0NEY2

No Agatha was not possessed. She simply came to the realization that Billy/teen is not her son. That’s why she looked so surprised when he said “Nicholas Scratch” and the sigil didn’t appear. Agatha came to her senses when teen said he wouldn’t be like her, that’s exactly what Wanda basically said when she kept saying she’s not a witch and doesn’t use magic. Not to mention Teen black mailed Jen into walking the road and is now saying that he won’t be a witch who harms people for his own agenda. Agatha knew Billy was like Wanda. Someone who harmed people for her own agenda yet she was so righteous in her ego. So at the end it confirmed that Teen is Billy, Wanda’s son. He was able to control the minds of sword agents in wandavision which is what he did to Lilia and Jen. I do think Agatha’s power is automatic, however I feel like the rush she gets from gaining power makes her continue to steal magic, and she must’ve felt bad because Billy was upset about Alice’s death. That little scene between them was a death flag😭😭. And Billy being reveled while Billie Eilish plays in the background is freaking iconic!

3CM0NEY2

Bro like 3-5 new plot lines sprung up at the end. The shit was so overwhelming lmao.

Delinda Arts

thats exactly where my mind went lol

rickie woodson

you get what is missing, not what you want

rickie woodson

the door didnt open until agatha heard the name nicolas scratch. that was her punishment: being reminded of her dead son.

rickie woodson

nothing took her over, it was just a realization, an epiphany you might say: you said the name nicolas scratch and the sigil didnt block it so you're not my son and the way you are talking to me is just like wanda: self-righteous. ergo, you must be her son. simple pimple. so since you hates wanda thats why she went from remorseful to cackling villain "ahhh i know who you are". and she has been calling him pet since episode 2. "this is my pet. say hello pet" as he has been relegated to the role of familiar instead of them accepting him as part of the coven, which he clearly is resentful of. he always gets the stank face when they call him pet or familiar.

rickie woodson

Assuming the ouija is a direct link to satan is craaaaaazy

rickie woodson

Also Rio is still unaccounted for currently so I'm sure she'll be saving everyone for the final team up or something

Jeremy Knox

So many comments forgetting that she already knew Teen wasn’t her son. Rio already told her “he’s not yours.” She had no idea who else he could possibly be until that very moment when he said he didn’t want to be a witch like that.

ThatPatreonThough

I feel like it was reflex, imagine being born with a power that when someone hits you, you just absorb it lmaooo some rogue shit

pmreez

Yooo đŸ”„đŸ”„

Adonice Joseph

Great points

Jeremy Knox

Remember, Teen has a sigil on him preventing him from saying who he is. Agatha has been wondering this whole time if he's her son or Wanda's son. Nicholas Scratch is her sons name, the second Teen said his name Agatha knew he wasn't her son because the sigil would've prevented him from saying that name if it was his real name. She knew in that moment he was Wanda's son. I suspect he put the sigil on himself to make sure no one could force him to say his real name. And if he put the sigil on himself that means he knows he's Wanda's son. The sigil is broken when it's no longer needed so once it was clear that Agatha knew who he was, the sigil wasn't needed anymore and he no longer needed to keep up the facade so the sigil broke. If you complete the Witch's Road you get whatever you want. I think he wants to bring Wanda back but he needed a coven in order to get to the Road so he set all this up. Plus I think he's the same exact Billy/Wiccan from WandaVision and when the hex went down I think his soul escaped. I suspect he's also there to get revenge on Agatha cuz he remembers the bullshit she did back in WandaVision. I really hope he's on petty DEMON TIME from now on. I hopes he stays on Agathas ass and is like "I'm here to fuck you up like how my momma shoulda fucked up cuz them 3yrs of mental imprisonment wasn't enough". I say that as someone who actually likes Agatha cuz she's so fun but I'm always Team Wanda/Scarlett Witch and that goes for her son too so I'm rooting for him. Although I do believe Agatha when she said she can't control her ability cuz that's not the first time she said it. She also said it back in WandaVision during the flashback when they showed her mom's coven trying to kill her, she told them then she can't control it. If you blast her with magic the ability just takes over. Also the villainous turn Agatha took in the end I think was because she knew he wasn't her son. She's been playing nice this whole time cuz she thought he was her son, once she knew he wasn't there was no need to play nice anymore. But it's also possible the villain is just a role she plays because people have been calling her a monster and evil her whole life so she's like "fine ill be the villain you all claim I am anyways" kinda like a coping mechanism

Alexis Sullivan

so I think agatha cant control her power and because ppl say she is evil she starts to acts evil because that is the only ay she can cope. Antother thing about teen aka billie wandas son, was worreid about his spell book, it think that spell book hinders his powers other wise he cant control it like how the powers overcame his mom in the movie with dir strange.

Blue

At the end of the ep when teen says that killing ppl to serve his agenda isn’t for him, Agatha realizes that it’s actually Billie Maximoff- that’s why her attitude turned into disgust (I believe Wanda said something like that before)

Miah L

"Ya gotta end the bloodline and prevent any revenge killing. That's just Evil 101!" - Queen of Fables

Michael Smith

Man Agatha realised it wasn’t her child because he could say Nicholas scratch and he’s sigiled so she stopped being nice because it’s wandas son

Sean Fox

As much as Agatha is cold blooded I do think she couldn’t help it when she got hit with Alice’s blast. It was a pure reaction not intentional as much as she would love to take all their powers, she knows she stands a better chance with more witches than on her own. I think the incident with her mother kinda sent Agatha into a spiral imo, like she knows who Teen is, but even being Wanda’s kid what better way to make it up to and get even with at the same time then by helping nurture your dead enemy’s kid. I hope, Agatha (cause no way she is dead yet), choose her coven over the power at the end. Anything is possibly with the Witches Road.

Uly A O

This show is so good I like how they leave a sense of mystery in the show surrounding the funny and cool characters. It makes you want to rewatch for clues

Imari

Agatha is a Villian and a villian she shall be

Angelo Trevino

Also, it seems like Jen has been wanting to run the fade since the start when it comes to Agatha. She was very visceral this episode, hopefully it comes to ahead before the trials are all done.

DevilMayCarter

After Agatha grabbed his face at the end, Teen essentially hit her with the, "Nah, I'd win." His face was cold blooded.

DevilMayCarter

In episode 3 Lila during one of her moments says "Save Agatha" and in the next episode she's having another moment says "Alice don't". So I think she was trying to say "Alice don't save Agatha" to warn her

PushyDruid

Why would that be the case? He got her to stop, plus Teen closed out the connection to him anyway. If he was traded or killed as a child/infant he’s still pretty innocent in nature. That was just her being a bitch to someone she has no attachment to anymore lmao

Bria A.

I was screaming during this final minutes. My mind was blown lol. And I could be wrong, but what if Teen was the one that really killed Sharon? Because she was fine before they entered the oven and Teen was the one that went down with her. And afterwards as Agatha is looking down at Sharon’s body she said “I didn’t know you had it in you.” and Teen was basically like “What?” and Agatha either winked at him or gave him a knowing look. Agatha probably figured out he did something to Sharon but kept it to herself to protect him since that was when she thought he was her son. I need answers. 😭

Earphone Jack

lol, people keeps forgetting Agatha is a villain. She just killed Alice for fun. Like the title says, no Mephisto, no hidden final boss, it's Agatha all along.

Tom

Lmao I’m not being an adult when you’re out here throwing a hissy fit over someone responding to your comment? There have been many people talking unnecessary crap about this show when so far it’s been decent. If you’re really just talking about the song, then cool. But you have another comment criticizing Teen, so it sounds like you’re just being a hater to me. But you got it lil bro

Has Noname

Also, if you notice, I’m pretty sure the petals on the Road change color according to whose trial it is. They were blue for Jen, orange for Alice, and purple for Agatha. (But I also have the theory that this has just been Teen walking the Road for Wanda the entire time.) I don’t think Agatha is possessed at all, she just held a lot of sympathy and protectiveness for Teen because she thought he was Nick, but resents him now because he’s actually Billy.

Bria A.

Confusing ass ending!! Was Agatha taken over by her son when her mother was kicked out of her?

ShaquanVirse

Oh my god, if you piece together Lilia’s previous two random outbursts (“Don’t!” and “Try to save Agatha.”), you get “Don’t try to save Agatha”
because she ends up killing Alice 😭

Bria A.

Wheres my double penetration đŸ„ș

Danger Tomato

Yehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Hasnain Khan

Ole girl did call teen a familiar id crash out on her too

Trey Milliner-Williams

Remember that Teen used to be excited learning more about witches, but this episode his rose-colored perception of witches was broken cus of agatha (killing alice) and lilia + jen (the way they are so quick to move on alice’s death and the way they were ready to betray agatha and abandon her even tho they are in a coven). thats the reason why he threw them all on the mud.

Ben -kun

Upclose frame to slowly reveal scarlet witches crown revealing it’s her son and basically the only song with a crown is cringe?

Jamie

Theres also theories going around saying that Mrs Hart's death was teen's doing (probably killed her to try to get a place in the coven, so he could also have a prize at the end. and also mrs hart being a non-witch would mean that she could know teen's name which would blow is cover)- which agatha figured out immediately- hence in ep 4 the opening scene agatha goes "i didnt think you had it in you" and teen replies with "didnt think who had what in them?" and agatha winks at him. she doesnt tell the others in hopes that teen is her son. But when rio tells her he isnt hers, she smirks, sort of putting two and two together that if he isnt hers, he must be wanda's. In this ep, teen saying Nicholas's name without the sigil on his mouth also confirmed it for agatha. She switched her demeanor with him and tells him "youre so much like your mother" because teen, like wanda, will kill for their own gain, but gets upset (alice's death) when others kill someone they care about. When agatha went "are you sure?" she was calling him out for being a hypocrite (killing mrs hart for his own gain). pretty solid theory imo

splatty natty romanoff

i agree

Yoxxhio

@has noname yall soft as fuck. i dont like one scene now u asking me why im watching the show? u in ur feelings so bad over my opinion of 1 scene out of hundreds from ep 1-5. be an adult

Yoxxhio

So yes, I think instinctively Agatha took Alice's power, killing her, it's probably something that she couldn't control, but let's not forget that Agatha is a villain, a selfish one at that. When cronfronted by teen, at first she tried being vulnerable with him, telling him she couldn't control it but he didn't believe her, so she put up her defense mechanism of always being a villain and started taunting him. Agatha is not possessed anymore she basically just started acting like her true villainous self as she's used to since he didn't believe her when she tried being truthful.

Anthony

Swear y’all just love hating lol. Why are you even still watching then?

Has Noname

W bando stone shirt sheera

kairohcounty

weakest ep for me so far but glad we are finally getting answers

rickie woodson

Are we getting d.p. today?

Joseph

I genuinely think her taking other people's powers is a curse rather than a skill. She looked like she was in a trance during that and only realized afterwards. Her evilness seems more like a manifested mask rather than her being "born" evil.

splatty natty romanoff

When teen said “Nicholas Scratch “ Agatha knew in that moment he wasn’t her son because of the sigil. I think that’s when the shift happened in my opinion. Great Reaction!!

Lenard Jones

Yeah the crown basically confirmed that he’s Wanda’s kid. Also, the song “you should see me in a crown” is by Billie Ellish and his name is Billy which is the name of Wanda’s kid. I think after Agatha figured out he’s Wanda son, she turned from being protective and caring for teen to treating him like a pet since she hates Wanda. Teen forced them off the road for how uncaring they were about Alice death. He didn’t know he had powers because I theorize he placed the Sigil on himself and after Agatha said “he’s so much like his mother” it broke the sigil and he finally realized who he was.

Euphoria Cutie

At the beginning of episode four when Sharon is dead Agatha says “I didn’t think you had it in you” and then winks at teen/billy. At the end of this episode you can see when she puts the pieces together on who he actually is. Which is Wanda’s son. And when she says “are you sure” she’s basically saying I know you killed Sharon and you’re no different than the rest of us.

Chase

Damn you might be right I didn't even think of that

Lola

I never thought id hear Wanda's music again it was a nice little subtle hint at Teens parentage. All the music's been enjoyable. I've especially loved the end credit music choices. 👌

Jamaal Ellison

@jamie the upclose frame of him trying to look strong and the cringe song thats to on the nose. its not a good scene brođŸ€Ł

Yoxxhio

I think the reason as to why she changed how she treated teen is because now she no longer thinks that's her son. Also in wandavision, Wanda said smth similar to what teen said about not being a witch and maybe agatha realised that. OR when she absorbed the other witch's power her awareness of magical beings increased so she probably sensed some chaos magic in teen since she is familiar with it

collins

Whay was cringe? A crown song playing to reveal he has a crown like Scarlett witch? A billie Ellish song to reveal billy maximoff?

Jamie

In ep4 Lilian (old lady that hears stuff) said “alice don’t” in ep3 she said “try to save Agatha” “Alice don’t try to save Agatha”

Jamie

Ahhhhh that makes sense!

YaBoyRoshi

nigga that shit was cringe as hell. đŸ€Ł

Yoxxhio

don’t hate lol. It wasn’t cringe like at all
rage bait!

Chase

Y’all should peep everytime Death is mentioned how Rio acts even today when Death is mentioned she just laughed

Aries

the ending song was so cringe omg lmao

Yoxxhio

He’s a character names Wiccan

BONE DRAGON Vids

I think she new he wasn’t her son because he was able the say her sons name which he wouldn’t have been able to if he is sygiled. I think she had her suspicions on who he could be but the name thing convinced her.

Sandeepunni

Ayeeee

Dante


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