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House of the Dragon 2x7

BIG BILL NOT THE LIL ONE!

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Thank you. I knew he looked familiar 🤦🏾

Arturo

To be fair the other two has such little impact on the story they don’t matter. One dies off-screen and one is just there to look cool then leave later. Then again the show could expand upon them but they’re so irrelevant that you could read spoilers on them and be fine

PJ Rivera

Im sure others have said it but, buddy who lost his head is the same lil dude who fought the bracken douche and proposed to rheanyra. THis is the kid from before, daemon jsut killed him. SO he got the W for killing a bracken and then the ultimate L for some spec ops blackwood shit

cheezeblade

probably the best way to do it though

steezymig

silverwing is by far the best llooking dragon. That shit looks wicked. Also it was on purpose they were trying to bait him in and ambush him because they know hes hotheaded and overconfident.

Infinity

Yo thank you for this. I was wondering where I knew him from,

Freeofgreed

I haven't seen this episode yet, but Champion Bescos is right. Like it is going to suck if the Good Guys and Bad guys were already decided since the beginning of the show.. and all this kinda sub-par politics.. is just like a weird history lesson with some Dragons to make it more interesting...? if we already know who is good and bad since the beginning... Like wut?? (Especially cause the Show does go the EXTRA MILE to act like the "Main Good" is fkn Rhaenyra, but they do still give many bits of reasons (Mainly in Season 1) which made me disagree with who the Show says the "Good" is even supposed to be, lol.) I really thought that things would be complex and sophisticated.. you know early seasons Game of Thrones style.. where characters were shown as super complex, and NOT seemingly Black and White of who is BAD and who is Good.. like there are SO many characters in this show too, but dam I pretty much only like 1.. It just seems so awful how they have gone so far as to make it hard for viewers to even understand when Rhaenyra might have done something "bad" or some faults with some decisions.. but then they go the complete opposite direction with the Green Characters where they make the Greens SEEM like they are WAY worse than they actually are, or even provide information in such a bad way, where they make the Greens seem like they did something or caused something "Bad" to happen when they didn't.. (or at least not as bad as what a lot of the viewers would think. The show just presenting info in such a terrible way). It seems really weird for them to not even provide the fkn information with clarity.. the show itself being biased as fk. You'd think this show was a News Channel, where the news channels (based on left-leaning or right-leaning news channel) will twist literal facts and info to paint one side as the positive (Rhaenyra Here), and The Greens always presented in a negative way, literally IN THIS SHOW they be twisting the actual info or the show just quickly drops a sentence in passing which gets overlooked.. since the overall "theme" is that Greens are "Bad".. I guess... The SHOW itself seemingly intentionally being biased like this instead of just providing the fkn facts for both sides.. Like I don't even know.. Did they try to "re-create" the Game of Thrones complexity but in House of The Dragon they thought it would be "Complex" if the show just did a terrible job at providing clear information, which is making a LOT of viewers come to wrong conclusions... or maybe because the SHOW wants people to be lost.. because the actual Message is as simple as "Rhaenyra Good.. and everyone else is bad".. except they do provide tiny bits of "negative" info about Rhaenyra here and there, where most people don't even catch it.. and those negative bits of info (which DO add up over time) about Rhaenyra goes against the narrative of the SHOW that has consistently tried to GLOSS over whenever Rhaenyra does something that could be seen as "Bad," but at the same time THE SHOW ALSO makes sure the info is confusing to make a lot of the viewers just blame the Greens by default, whenever something bad happens. AND BTW I did kinda give up on episode 2x6 and searched up what happens to Aemond by the end (My.. current favorite) and.. yea idk.. I think it is prolly gonna be even worse than in the book, so I have no faith atm, lol.

Drake Rage

Unironically what would it take to get them to do s4 of warrior 😭

Manny

As they said in episode 10 of season 1 there are now still 3 unclaimed "wild dragons" that live on Dragonstone. One of which is the one Rhaena is after

DarquanJr

My guy thats how it was in the source material daemon does basically nothing during this time and its mostly set-up for honeywine, battle of the gull, etc Season 3 is where it goes hard. GOT S2 was similar slow paced and focused on set up but I will say its not fun waiting 2 years for a set up season. The thing about less spectacle though is wild lmao

PJ Rivera

what a wild comment

Austin Police

I’m gonna say it. This season is a huge step down in quality from S1. The writing is atrocious, sure, but even the spectacle is lesser, from cinematography to visuals to sets (or lack thereof). It’s no wonder Sapochnik left and Martin is leaving as well.

Champion Bescos

Bill going to fly into Chinatown lol

Leon

Yea I know she wasnt a bastard but I wasn't sure if they were outright stating it was Saera or making up a bastard sister for Baelon. Its just weird that a son of hers decided to come back to westoros soil to live since we know she left westoros so she wouldn't be sent to the silent sisters and she wanted to live her life the way she wanted. It makes me wonder why he returned to westoros because she didn't raise him in westoros and she had more than one bastard other than him story wise

LaTesha

I don't know much about Nettles because I haven't read the books, but I kinda get why they chose to merge the two characters cuz they already have Rhaena in the show and from what I hear her storyline isn't too major in the book so since they already have this character it makes sense to merge her with another character instead of introducing a whole new character to the series. You get me? Then again I don't fully know the storylines in the books so forgive me if I got something wrong (I do get the frustration of losing the opportunity to get another black female character though)

Kaykay

You’re both kinda right. He stepped in that casing dragons put their eggs in to protect them. It’s dung and…mucus, maybe? Idk. Daemon broke one open last season when he was harvesting a clutch. Idc how much of a troll Silverwing is, she would not have been happy go lucky about Ulf actually killing one of her babies while drunk.

Bria A.

The only thing I’ll say in Ulf’s defense is he didn’t actually break an egg, that thing is hard as hell 😅 He stepped on that protective casing of dung and other stuff the dragons bury their eggs in. Daemon busted one open last season to get Syrax’s eggs.

Bria A.

“Submitting and saving the bloodshed” would’ve absolutely been her execution either way, they have said as much several times

Bria A.

Yeah. Looks like they’re making Rhaena a composite character (which people have been speculating for weeks now because of lack of casting for Nettles), which does annoy me. They’re both great characters in their own right.

Bria A.

I hope Rhaena gets Sheepstealer for the sake of the show (which likely will happen), but I can’t say I’m not bitter they’re almost surely combining her character with Nettles and her plot. It’s giving “eh, these two black girls can be interchangeable, it’s fine”

Bria A.

Moondancer begs to differ, imo

Bria A.

ey yo. Luffy's grandpa is with Alicent? Of course this man would side with house green.

Mr. Glasses

So much to process in this episode... Corlys out here repping deadbeat niggas everywhere lmao "Ah, you did well to survive as a bastard after abandonment. Splendid, leave is granted. Farewell once more." Young Oscar showing Daemon how games really get played lol definitely one of my favorite characters in the GOT universe W lady Mysaria for moving the culture forward pointing out how goofy bloodline dependence is, but it's also really trash how royalty just has bastards left & right and just abandons them. by our modern standards they'd just be considered Targaryens. Bill I'm not accepting this I will not put respect on your name!!!

Offw0rlder

I don't necessarily disagree with what I think you're trying to say ( It can be distracting when she tries to prove her point or theory too much, they end up not paying attention to the show on screen ), but I believe there are better ways to express yourself. I don't see the need for being rude.

Sofia & Chill

The cookout episode

Ashanti Patmon

she’s just excited lol it’s not that big of a deal

solo prince

Some body teach this man Lupa how to float

Gostoo

that was pretty damn ruthless of rhaenyra though throwing them all in thier with a vicious dragon and just seeing what sticks.

morningstar28

you’re a villain

Roman Campos

nah man, sheera’s dialogue really adds to the reaction. what’s the point of watching a reaction channel if you think she’s “yapping”.

Roman Campos

Bro can't do shit without the sneak attack modifier. Wack.

Fraudkuna

Crazy glaze

Mk IDraw

Fuck😂

Mk IDraw

This comment made me laugh harder than I should’ve lol!

Dalton Hawes

She gets a little too excited sometimes like during ep4 she was arguing with roshi about something they agreed on already with aegon but its so entertaining when she’s right when the sheeragan hits just right.

PJ Rivera

Sheera needs to stop yapping so goddamn much. way too often i hear nothing but obvious statements or know-better comments. Love yall but its getting hard to enjoy certain shows

kezzep

Not that I recall. The Velaryons were always seafarers. They were not one of the 40 dragonriding families I'm Old Valyria.

Adley

Ma’am forgot how a monarchy works

$am

i think incest to keep the bloodline pure is different when your blood actually controls and bonds w/ dragons

Grelk

Hugh wasn’t born in westeros he immigrated there saera is his mom and Big J is his grandpa

PJ Rivera

They killed off oscars dad elmo off screen and removed his brother kermit lmao. So we only got grover and oscar tully but we can still see the sesame street reference they ain’t slick

PJ Rivera

They’re doing an aegons conquest series so we’ll be able to see balerion the black dread in action and young vhaegar in a couple of years. They’re also making a dunk and egg series if you’re tired of dragons and want that oldschool only human beings game of thrones feeling

PJ Rivera

Y’all should rewatch and react game of thrones…

James Stewart

They've always had insecurities about being bastards so of course it's partly that. I also pointed out her giving dragons to strangers was a terrible idea. She basically handed out nuclear weapons to people whose loyalty could be bought with A bushel of apples and some bread.

Jamaal Ellison

But both Vermithor and Seasmoke are bigger dragons. I think Adam is likely to be loyal but what about Hugh? If they defeat Vhagar, Hugh will literally have the biggest dragon out of all of them.

Narcissistic Humility

It's not just insecurity. It's a legitimate concern. The only thing Jace has over the other bastards with Dragons now is that he is selected as the heir of current rightful heir, Rhaenyra and Viserys' feeble attempts to legitimise them during his life. But these other bastards could definitely try to contest the claim, especially given that the dragons that they have are all bigger than both his and Rhaenyra's. What happens if one of the dragon riders decide that they want more? What does Rhaenyra do then? They did not even interview/get to know the dragon riders before they gave them these weapons of mass destruction.

Narcissistic Humility

Ok Spoiler

Gyatt100

If they go through with that Conquest spin off Balerion bouta be 40% of the budget

Adrian Neal

This nigga Aemond be treating Vhagar like a fucking AC-130 😭😭😭😭😭😭

Adrian Neal

Addam got Seasmoke & they immediately put him in Louis V the drip is immaculate Also I seen people on Twitter saying what is Alicent even around for when her entire character arc this season has been feeling that she has no purpose, no power and no say in a war she played a large part in starting in the first place, especially after finding out that she misinterpreted what Viserys said on his deathbed.

Adrian Neal

Thank you, someone actually thinking beyond rhaenyra perspective

Chima Dumkwu

My thing is saera didn't stick around Kingslanding she left and never came back (and jaeharys would have had her dragged out from that brothel) She had more than one bastard child so what is he doing in Kingslanding instead of volantis or essos. According to him his mother's dead and there's no way she would have come back to die in westoros soil. 🤔

LaTesha

jace idea was to look for high-born that have Targaryen lineage, that's why they searched through annals not to use the commonfolk and bastards

Chima Dumkwu

I'll give her nothing she's been horrible the entire show. I blame Luke's death on her and Visery's.

CentipedeKid

But she didn't fully go to war cause of the throne if anything she was provoked into the war after Luke became vhagars snack. I can't say she has been the most saintly character but i dont think you are giving her enough credit

Darkling6769

🤣

Grelk

I knew Quasimodo ass was finna get deep fried we ain’t seen that mf all season 😂😂 Straight cannon fodder.

Jazz Rivers

Balerion the Black Dread would have been cool to see in action against Vhagar

Joey or Knight Primal on twitch

Agreed but I feel like the black dread would have looked badass

Joey or Knight Primal on twitch

Bro imagine if the black dread was still alive

Joey or Knight Primal on twitch

Have u guys ever watched “Titans”? It’s a DC show on HBO about the teen titans. I think u guys would like it.

ravion

My boy Bill getting a DUB, let's fucking GOOOOOO! Also here's Alicent like J. Cole going, "I'm sorry, I want no part in this."

AutumnOnFire

31:02 I knew I recognized that guy!!! That’s Garp from the live action of one piece!! Dope he’s in this show 🙌🏾

B-Ross

YES thank you Kori! I said he was looking at it from a selfish angle because it's his claim that he's thinking of, he's worried for after his mom dies, but you're right! What then? these silver haired folks like you mention that popped out of the woodwork may not all be good natured given the life they had so far ( "small folks are more loyal then the rest" since when?!! they can go back to the greens if things start to look better on their side ).. She does need riders to balance out the advantage in the battle field, but it will come at a great cost down the line, she's too desperate only thinking about the now! I'm happy most people in the comments are able to look toward the future and see the possible outcomes and consequences of these decisions ( playing the game of thrones haha! ) but sooooo many are shortsighted & emotional "if you criticize the blacks you're trash", they miss out on so much ... shame

Sofia & Chill

Silver wing and caraxes are hands down the best looking dragons

Fizzy

jace looking like aemond is pretty cool

Guav

I'm curious to see what they'll do in the show with Sheepstealer, for it seems they wrote out a character from the books ( that I love 😭 !! ) who would play a part in this matter...

Sofia & Chill

Y'all both right. For Jace, imagine your whole life all the lords have been whispering bastard behind your back bc of your hair and THE ONLY thing that you could fall upon is that you have a dragon and now all these bastards with white hair are going to be given a chance to ride a dragon BUT Jace also has to understand that the only way you're winning this war is with Dragons especially since the Opp has the biggest and baddest one. In the books the recruiting of the dragon seeds is all Jace's idea so i find the change in the show interesting especially the complexity that is added to Jace's turn. but maybe don't refer to the lowfolk as mongrels. just saying.

juan vargas

I agree Sofia, and I'll take it a step further and say he isn't being selfish. He has every right to be concerned for his future especially since he isn't making too many power plays himself. Some of those bastards look way more Targaryen than him with their silver hair and if we are being real, he doesn't even have a claim on the throne as he is a bastard. Correct me if I'm wrong but his younger brothers Viserys and Aegon would have more of claim than him. I understand the plan but it can backfire very easily, who's to say they won't turn on them after the war?

Kori

Back to the legitimacy question, I agree and understand Jace's frustration. He might be Rhaenyra's first son but he is a BASTARD, if she goes around letting other bastards have dragons then they could fight for a claim on the throne as well. Sure, lowborn people could be loyal but ya'll saw how they was fighting over food, all it takes is a battery to be placed in someones back for them to fight for a claim on the throne, plus some of the bastards have silver hair while Jace doesn't. Its a tricky situation and I don't blame Jace for being upset because his claim is weakening by Rhaenyra's actions, almost as if she's setting him up for failure because after the war then what???

Kori

Really?

Douglas Kelley

Wasn’t she at that point in the tv show? I assumed she had flown off I wouldn’t consider her tame if she is out in the wild without a rider even if she was once tame previously

Justin Spencer

It's not a big L for Jace, I have to disagree. The timing of bringing this up is unfortunate because you're right when you say they need dragons cause Vhagar is going to make good snacks out of them all XD BUT it is a legitimate concern, he's thinking waaaaaay ahead without realizing it. As I said, him saying that comes from a "selfish" angle but that does not make him wrong. This is a desperate plan and if it works it's fucking awesome for our blacks, but issues are bound to surface. You want Jace to act like an heir and do more, then Rhaenyra needs to let him but she's still traumatized with Luke's loss.

Sofia & Chill

You are acting like Vhagar was a wild dragon

Douglas Kelley

Not sure I'd say King's Landing is lucky for it, but Team Green certainly is.

Solemnity

Are there any known Velaryon riders prior to Addam? All the Velaryon riders in the show were mixed Velaryon/Targaryen if I recall correctly.

Solemnity

To be fair, his idea was to invite nobles of mixed Targaryen blood (i.e. the commander of her Queensguard), not complete randoms.

Solemnity

The precedent rhynera should be fighting for is that the first born child, regardless of gender or if they are a bastard, would inherit the throne and titles. She should make that clear to all the people she is recruiting now cuz Jace is right that ppl would challenge him after Rhynera gets old and dies and then you end in the same place they are now.

JulianV

Episode theme this week: Standing on business.

Majin buussin

It's still a big L for Jace because, as rhaenyra said, they really don't have a choice. Vhagar needs to be jumped by two, maybe 3 dragons to really have a chance at getting killed. Daemon and his dragon aren't really following commands, and rhaenyra can't fly out. That means Beala and Jace. Jace dragon is a snack to vhagar. At the moment if aemond decided to he could effectively end this was by taking vhagar and crashing out. This plan is their only defense against that. If Jace wants to make sure his claim is respected he gon need to start acting as a heir apparent and making sure the newbies respect and look up to him as a senior dragonrider And get good at running shit

Malcolm Washingon

Loved this episode you guys are hilarious :D One note: You guys were quick to give an L to Jace without really thinking about what he was saying: him having a dragon allowed to shut down the "bastard" rumors quicker, but now any bastards can try to claim a dragon so his position could in fact be compromised... He's immature for sure but he has a point, it is a desperate plan, only time will tell if it's the right one. LEGITIMACY or the semblance of it is a big deal in this series!

Sofia & Chill

The stinky looking dude really ran into Alduin from Skyrim

BabyFoodChewer

What's easier going to war over a throne you didn't want or submitting and saving the bloodshed?

CentipedeKid

This was by far my favourite episode in the whole season. Rhaenyra coming out like a thug at the end with dragons behind her was so epic. I really hope Rhaena does get the wild dragon that would be so cool. So far on the black side we have, Syrax (Rhaenyra's), Vermax (Jace's), Vermithor (Hugh's), Silverwing (Ulf's), Seasmoke (Adam's), Moondancer (Baela's) and Caraxes (Daemon's) (hopefully soon Rhaena will have a dragon too); That's 7 confirmed dragons on team black, while team green has 3 confirmed dragon's (Aemond's, Daeron's and Helaena's), obviously other factors than numbers are important, like amount of experience being a dragon rider, but I'm really hype for what the rest of the season might entail now that there are so many more factors at play.

Kaykay

I understand how Jace is feeling and agree with him. But how is she getting people killed left and right when she made sure the bastards knew the consequences of claiming a dragon. She has been trying to prevent all this from happening and the people around her are the ones who keep escalating

Kacykiki

Nah, Ulf was definitely given the order to attract Aemond's attention. The plan was either to lead him back to Dragonstone to get jumped, or to send the message that we got more riders now. Because it wasn't like the Greens wouldn't have learned that more riders were being recruited eventually. Secrets don't stay secret in Westeros.

Nick Baynes

Ahh, the big bill rep continues 😂

NovaVortex

I’ve wrote too much already but I have a theory that ulf isn’t related he was lying to gas up the bar but the dragons don’t go off blood they all have unique requirements vermithor was going to kill him until he screamed at him ( preferring bold riders) I think ulf just got lucky off his lie 😂

Justin Spencer

Vhagar has to stay outside she’s too big for the pit 😂

Justin Spencer

Roshi said throw her out as bait I can’t 🤣

Justin Spencer

Her finding sheepstealer is a parallel to her mother finding vhagar in the wild 😝

Justin Spencer

when I looked at Sir Rickard thorne he looked familiar to me, I checked the actor's name and rolls, and i found out that he played the role of Garp luffy's granpa

Ahmed14

If anyone else was curious like I was because they thought the knight with Alicent looked very familiar, the man also played Garp in the live action One Piece.

Nick Baynes

Jace is always so sassy 💁🏾‍♂️ 😂

Justin Spencer

I’m fairly certain that several characters were not black so Adam’s parentage would be less obvious. You have to pretend you can’t see color and I just realized in the book rhaneys had black hair because of the Baratheon part of her blood so Luke and Jace had more reason to argue for their looks as well

Justin Spencer

With the Dragon Tamers, they couldnt care less about people getting cooked, they are literally raised from childhood to worship the dragons as gods and to serve them (and by extension the Dragon-Riders). Next thing they know they are letting randoms ride their gods instead of intended dragon-lords

Oliverson

House Black fans have been arguing with me for months that Jace didn't care about his father being Harwin or his legitimacy and this episode confirmed he cared. Even though it should have been obvious after he pulled a dagger on Aemond. Jace was right you already fucked up his place with legitimacy then you let low born people have dragons. So what does it look like? All she's doing is making it more clear he's a bastard. I see why he's upset. You brought him into this bullshit he's worked his ass off on her behalf and then she makes his life harder by fighting and giving commoners dragons. She got his brother killed if you really think about it because Jace was pissed about being a bastard that's why he pulled the blade that started Aemond on his revenge. I'd be mad too. You can't bring me into this bullshit and set me up for defeat. Rhaenyra has been pissing me off with her lack of accountability. She's been getting people killed left and right. Just submit if you really don't want bloodshed. Don't fuck your guard, kill a random so Laenor can leave, marry your crazy uncle that was never supposed to be near the throne and kill hundreds of people. That blood is on her. She keeps fucking up and getting people killed and tarnishing her name and reputation. But she looks sad about it so people forgive her. Just to do something worse the next day. I hope it wasn't Rhaenyra's plan to send Ulf to Kings landing. Aemond could kill all of them right then and there. They still have no battle hardened dragons and the riders aren't ready. Aemond should have killed them right there. That was his best chance.

CentipedeKid

Yo I miss warrior bro 😭 those were top tier reactions

DJ Muldrow

Jace conversation was pretty much say even though everyone thought he was a bustard but he had a dragon but if other bustard had a dragon he don't seem as special

Kwame James

Lmao nah this makes sense

Rex Perez

He chicken out, get over it

Rex Perez

Vermithor: You want to ride me?! You are just food! [After the meal] Hmmm, actually this one looks alright. He will do. Silverwing: Hello there human! Who are you? Oh you have Targ blood! What, the eggs? Nevermind them. Would you like to be my rider?

Victor

Its likely Vermithor saw the old king within Hammer aswell

Steve

That’s what Hugh said his mother said, “ her brothers sons viserys and Daemon” meaning HER nephews and her being their aunt.

LFODC

Def an egg

Kingd_reps

those were eggs, look again

rayman

my neighbor lol. shit was annoying as hell

YaBoyRoshi

People saying Aemond chicken out is so funny, if anything he's smart to retreat realizing it's an ambush. Knowing you're being jumped and still go is a dumbass move and getting killed for no reason lol

hydrxngxx

GRRM naming the Tullys after Muppets was so unserious lol

Saynt Michael

Bro's thinking Silverwing let Ulf ride her cause she respected him coming in the cave. Nah bro, she was messing with him hardcore. Some girls just like a goofy mofo.

Eric Stormbringer

dragon eggs? im pretty sure that was dragon doodoo he stepped in lmao

IBlazingI

Aemond finally got a taste of his own medicine Queen stood out like do it i dare you lol

Reckless Company

Durarara day 33

Monotone Type-F

I wonder if they even had anywhere to sleep 😭

nicholazsyx

Thank you!! I was losing my mind trying to realize who he was.

Anti-M

Jace is right she is being short sighted. What's to stop the lowborn overthrowing them with dragons and the people honoring succession when she dies. It happened to her. He tells no lies. The low born aren't more loyal you just have to hope they value your side more than the others. The lowborn dont have much stake in this war besides hoping the fight ends and they can have food. If they get power of their own who's to stop them from taking what they want.

LaTesha

Big bill checking vermithor like he a big dawg and he the alpha 🤣 establish dominance brotha

Cam Kaneki

Man he didn't go do that s**t. Alfred broome is not sending any messages 🤣. If he did make it we would have saw unless he does it next episode or lies about doing it.

LaTesha

Small folk more loyal lmaoo since when

Amos

I know "well done" doesn't seem like a lot to us, but you've gotta think that for Addam that shit mean EVERYTHING

Beagle

Yall act like Helena would want any part of this. She don't count

Dyastro

MEN Type shit

Dyastro

Why are u spoiling it tho??

TheHud257

Btw, the Lady of the Eyrie didn't kick Rhaena and the boys out, that was always just a pitstop on their way to Pentos across the sea. Rhaenyra wanted them as far away as possible from danger.

Hollow

I love the payoff so far in Deamon's story with him getting humbled by Oscar. I hope that his time in dreamland gives him a new perspective on things but I still wanna see the savage come out and turn up for the last episode.

Juan G.

I'm very scared for Rhaenyra's handmaiden. It has to eventually get back to the Aemond that she's her agent in Kings Landing.

Samke Dladla

Hugh sounds like he the bastard grandson of king jaeharys. So he must have had a bastard daughter at some point and didn't know. Princess saera didn't stick around westoros

LaTesha

Do we actually know Ulf's heritage? I don't recall it from the show, unless it's from the books. It seemed like he was laughing because maybe he didn't actually know that he was truly Targaryen. He was just riding on his hair color for free beer, and was astonished the dragon recognized his blood.

Sekraan

He's not inherenting ANY throne if they loose the war

Dyastro

You're right about why the dragon keepers said they wouldn't be a part of it. They don't give AF about the smallfolk. They care about diminishing the dragons. That said, they said they didn't want to be part "of this". That might mean the selection process. They still see dragons as gods, so maybe they'll keep tending to them now that the riders are selected.

Sekraan

He doesn't have a dragon like daemon does

Dyastro

Also, they have silver hair distinguishing them as Targaryens, while Jace has dark hair and already had a bunch of rumors about him being a bastard.

Sekraan

Rhaenyra gotta be paying worker's comp

Sekraan

Thats so nice actually

Dyastro

Oh well~

Dyastro

"People die now? Or later....."

Dyastro

I also think its worth mentioning that summoning people with Valyrian/Targaryen ancestry to Dragonstone was Jace’s idea in the previous episode. Now that’s come to bite him in the butt because the dragon riders his mom needs to win her claim to the throne are bastards just like him. So now we’re primed for yet another succession crisis after she dies because now people know Targaryen bastards can also potentially claim a dragon for themselves, not just the highborn. It probably should have been something on their minds but Rhaenyra is only thinking of the immediate threat which is fighting the war and reclaiming her throne.

vesra

this end discussion gave me flashback to the hilarious end discussion of that Warriors ep where Roshi was defending Bill lmao

Delinda Arts

Ernie

Hugh’s mother was Saera Targaryean, the daughter of the king before Viserys who was driven away by that king being a bit of a possessive dick. The rest of his life the old king seemed to regret driving his daughter away, Vermithor was his dragon and likely knew how much it hurt the king that his daughter had left, and now he can protect a part of her that’s returned to him.

Wizard Michael

Thanks for this. Was having trouble understanding how they could be her brothers when she was working in a brothel.

Sekraan

What if she wants to be Queen? She's Targaryan just like him but she is legitimate unlike him. Plus if two of them get together, others will ally with one and another to keep themselves safe at least and at worse back someone they think should be the ruler of the continent. Not as simple as promises and oaths when everybody is allowed to snag a dragon.

Raging

Idk what the show is hinting at with Corlys saying that he doesn't know their mothers lineage. The Velaryons and Targaryens intermarried a lot over the centuries. The Velaryons were usually the first choice for a spouse if one wasn't available in House Targaryen. Addam definitely got his dragon riding blood from Corlys.

Adley

Oscar woke up and realized "I'm HIM now."

Carlos

He was in episode 1 I think when aegon was answering request and they showed him last episode during the riot. He was also shown another time talking to his wife I think episode 2.

Dontsop Keran

Bill had me hype

PayTheRent

Saera was Daemon and Viserys' aunt not their sister.

Adley

The thing i think alot of people aren't realizing about jayce is hes probably nervous for his own claim because his half brothers rhaenyra had with daemon have very strong claims and could contest his. Considering they are trueborn sons who look Targaryen and jayce is very clearly a bastard.

Kalf97

Getting y’all grass cut huh

James Stewart

she could've pursued their original plan which was to put a highborn with Targaryen blood up there.

Rayanh LaNansha

Exactly some ppl miss that. If Ulf and Hugh survive the war Jace’s succession is fucked because him being a bastard is an open secret. Ulf and Hugh would have just as legitimate of a claim as Jace. Some might even try to push Aegon the younger (Rhaenyra and Daemons son) to be King. Best case scenario for Jace at this point for his younger brother Aegon to ascend the throne and Jace get Dragonstone or Driftmark.

Shin splits

I mean... his dragon will grow. lmfao. Plus his wife (and later his siblings) will back him with their own growing dragons.

Rayanh LaNansha

facts bro lmaoo he got that dawg in him

Manny

Yes which is why I think she should have been more cautious on selecting people

BlueSmurf

Viserys does give me morgot vibes 😂

xProKnockz

idk what training arc that kid went on since he last visited Daemon, but lil one got some heart fr and speakin with his chest

Delinda Arts

BILL 😂

Frederick

The Damon hallucinations are giving me mad Vinland Saga vibes with caunte

Damian B

And even that was threatened in the first season when they tried to take away lucerys as heir to driftmark, they’ve done it before what’s stopping them from doing it to Jace when Rhaenyra is gone

Gyatt100

Rhaenyra be serious, you just said lords have been insulting your sons for years and then turn around and say they honor his succession? I completely understand this is a tough situation but I think she’s lacking heavy when it comes to looking towards the future as well

Gyatt100

Always remember that Roshi fucked with Big Bill when Lupa and Sheera clowned on him.

Sixaxis112

That ending shot was pure hype.

The thing that flows

Exactly This plan was way too risky, she knows nothing of these peoples background, at least with Noble houses as we commonly see, there is a sense of “i know how this house typically behaves” giving randoms dragons just added another thing she has to keep an eye on, on top, of everything else

Gyatt100

Unless I'm not supposed to think about it too much there has to be someone facilitating and replenishing the insane amounts of prey that the skyscraper lizards are eating on an ISLAND lol

John Cedar

King's Landing is lucky Aemond is smart because any one else would of been jumped 3v1. The plan almost worked but it also sent a message we ready for war with more dragons. Aegon definitely would of fell for it

Davon Thomas

He low key spitting tho, low born people are gonna be loyal to either small folk or themselves, Rhaenyra has no sure way of assuring these people don’t turn on her

Gyatt100

Hugh will be a problem to Rhaenyra later on. Unlike the other, his blood is directly to king jaehaerys's daughter, sister to Rhaenyra's father, king Viserys. I hope his ego won't go over his head for that.

Rin Okumura

theres 0 chance that was planned at the end lol, silverwing defintely just flew off to kings landing on his own accord. but ofc rhaenyra was ready, you can see vhagar a mile away incoming xD

ZeroChance

The dragons on dragonstone don't need them to feed. They fly out and get their own food. They're more needed in KL in the pit. The only real issue I see here is being able to retrieve dragon eggs from the cave

Jigga Man

And they probably won't lol I am calling it now, out of the 3 Hugh, and Ulf will fold, because their want for a dragon never came from a selfless place. Hugh left his wife to pursue purpose, Ulf got hyped up and deep down feels like a throwaway, most likely those two are betrayers in the future. Adaam is loyal as he serves Salt and Sea but also chases validation and with Rhaenyra he can finally be great.

Arsean Wilbon

Exactly, even if she does win the war, when she dies it'd just be another one because everyone knows Jace is a bastard. Daemon would probably claim the throne and continue the line through his children. I really feel for Jace.

Jigga Man

Also what happened to that dude Rhanerya sent to go check on daemon. Surely he should’ve already arrived at Harrenhal..

Chipper

It was funny they quit on her, and mention mens games but probably didnt bat a eye when Rhaenys and all of them were riding their dragons off to war.

Arsean Wilbon

Roshi getting canceled again lol

LelaniG

I know but I'm saying jace feels insecure about about his claim because he doesn't look like a targeyean, we know he is one because of rhaenyra but someone could feel they have a better one because they actually look targeyean. And targeryans were known to do incest to help keep control of dragons, like that was their whole thing so it's basically normalized for them so that's the reasoning I believe people don't mind it as much and advocate for it.

BlueSmurf

Silverwing is Verms boo.

Arsean Wilbon

It was for fucking three men (who were in the same friend group) & running away to work in a whore house in lyse. It was only after she ran away that she was formally disowned

Fred_D3

Jace has a point though. A big part of this war even happening is due to Rhaenyra having bastard children who will be next in line for the throne. Jace knows he's a bastard but at least he has a dragon as a point of legitimacy to his claim for the throne. Right now, if any low born Tarh bastard can claim a dragon then he's no better than any of them. It really hurts his claim to the throne, to the point that people would just skip over him entirely and go to an actual silver haired Targ. Rhaenyra honestly just made it so he'd never inherit the throne because they'd never see him as royalty, just another bastard with a dragon.

Jigga Man

Most of the city watch are in daemon & the white worms pocket

Fred_D3

Ulf's parentage is unsure on the show, I think. He says himself that he can't be sure it's true, and he wouldn't be around to confirm the facts of his own birth and conception. Claiming a dragon is a little like a Westerosi DNA test, but I think people without Targaryen heritage can claim dragons.

A

Silverwing has my favourite dragon design so far, she looks so epic next to the old beaten up dragons lool

Fred_D3

Sure, but I think it's funny how the show is making people advocate for incest so hard. I've seen people saying that Rhaenyra should have hooked up with one of the many dragonseeds (her brothers and uncles and cousins) with white hair so she could have convincing velaryon/targaryen babies. All things considered, I think it's good for Jace to be a little less inbred. And there was never any doubt that Jace is a targaryen since he was carried by a targaryen birth mother, the issue with his claim is that he's an illegitimate child and obviously so. Even a king can't get away with putting his bastard children on the throne without a lot of trouble. As modern viewers, we're just not primed to feel so strongly about the need for magical blood, being born in wedlock, or being the product of enough incest to be racially pure.

A

But he was bugging when he said not to pursue it though because what else can she do. Rhaenyra needs dragon riders or she won't stand a chance. I just think she should done with a select group of people instead just people off the street of kings landing. But i understand he's insecure.

BlueSmurf

Had Daemon sitting there with the I eat shit face, all humbled and I loved it🤣👏🏾👏🏾

Tre Staples

Quick check: in the books, Hugh’s mom was Princess Saera, aunt to Viserys and Daemon. Her father old king Jaehaerys, banished her due to her promiscuous lifestyle. So she spent the rest of her life as a Madame at a brothel house.

Robert Blackett

vermithor: "THANKS FOR THE FEAST, QUEEN"

Johnedel Rubinas

She got disowned for trying to marrying three men, iirc! She's supposed to have a lot of sons, but it would be funny if Hugh were one of her sons who showed up to try to claim the iron throne at the great council where Viserys was declared the heir to the throne.

A

I do kinda feel for Jace though. His whole life he’s been bullied and part of the reason for this whole war is because he was born a bastard. Now you have Hugh and Ulf who have much bigger dragons than he does, with the silver hair, and a strong claim to the throne. Hugh’s mom was Saera Targaryen**, a sister of Baelon Targaryen (Viserys and Daemon’s father) and daughter of King Jahaerys and Queen Alysanne. Ulf’s dad was Baelon**,so Ulf is Daemon and Viserys’ half brother. **Going off the show in the books I heard its different

vesra

Daemon needs to lock in

AzureSiegfried

So did all the guards just say screw it, let them folks go. There was like fifty people who just walked out of King’s Landing with zero bodies blocking their way when last I checked the city was in lock down. You telling me nobody noticed? Wild.

Teyon Alexander

The dragons tend to find riders who mimic their emotions or are related in someway to one of their former riders. Verm was king Jae dragon so Hugh(Bill) is probably grandson , making him a cousin of Viserys and Daemon. Ulf i dont know yet, but Ulf is friendly and Silver Wing is known to be docile and friendly for a Dragon.

Arsean Wilbon

saera is from fire and blood

sansa

How do you know her? Was she mentioned by name in the show?

Guns

Jace is insecure about his claim because someone who looks like the average Targaryen with the silver hair could feel that they have a better claim than him simply based on how they look and because they have a dragon. And there are even other people who have no Targaryen blood as far as we know who can claim dragons. He was only secure in the fact that he was a Targaryen because he was able to claim a dragon and now it seems like it doesn't matter anymore. He's insecure because people have been whispering about him being a bastard his whole life. I understand rhaenyra position as well because she doesn't really have a choice she needs more dragon riders or she won't stand a chance. I just think she should have had a more select group of people instead of just pulling people off the street with Kings landing.

BlueSmurf

Big Bill W

GigaDirt

Yall really think bill tamed a dragon just because he walked in it’s cave by accident ? 🤣🤣🤣

Jamil Hicks

So i’ve been mixing Ulf and Hugh together the whole time….. thought it was only Ulf’s story we were seeing. I’m fucking slow

Guns

Oh I understand all that. He still a goofy tho, is all I'm saying.

Tejiri Ubiedi

Vermithor scheduled a group interview cuz he got plans later.

Tapiocca

ulf just had to show his home his new whip thats all

Anthony Petrucci

No, Bill has had his own mini storyline in past episodes with his wife and daughter who was sick (now dead).

Art

About Vhagar and the jumping at the end, I don't know if you remember the map, but in fact, King's Landing and Dragonstone are right next door !!!

Sylisen E.

He insecure about his claim because it makes more evident that he is one. Like there are targeyean bastards who actually look targeyean while he does not. Or people who's seem to have no Targaryen blood claiming dragons. He saying that somebody who looks more Targaryen than him could have a better claim than him simply because he doesn't like the average targeryan and the only thing he had to prove that was having a dragon and it seems like that doesn't even matter now

BlueSmurf

W BILL!

Ayanda Mpofu

Ohhh so these guys just know him from somewhere else. But in this movie, he’s a random just showing on screen for the first time right? Unlike Ulf, who’s had a cameo throughout the season…. Or am i wrong…

Guns

Bill is a major character in the show Warrior, played by the same actor. It's a really underrated show with incredible fight scenes, similar vibes to Peaky Blinders sometimes since it follows organized crime families.

John Cedar

well aemond dismissed her lol

Grelk

IDK if anyone mentioned it but Ser Rickard is GARP (One Piece)

Josetta Wootson

From warrior, he plays bill a police officer in that show but here he’s hugh hammer

PJ Rivera

Shout out Hugh for taking the dragon of his grandfather who disowned his mother!

James

if they die to him they're not worthy and its a bastard taken care of, simple as

Grelk

hugh's mother is most likely princess saera, daughter of king jaehaerys and aunt of viserys and daemon, who became a courtesan later in her life

sansa

They have 4. We know that daeron has one.

T

here's what i found "The Wall and the Night's Watch have long stood as a neutral entity in Westeros, accepting men from all sides of conflicts regardless of their previous allegiances. This tradition of neutrality allowed the Watch to serve as a convenient solution for dealing with political prisoners and defeated enemies, offering an alternative to execution. Even during times of civil war, the practice of "taking the black" remained a viable option for all factions, maintaining the Wall's role as a unifying institution above the realm's internal struggles."

Grelk

Wait who is Bill again? The guy that wandered was the lowborn Daemon and Viserys’s cousin, but i forgot who Bill is….

Guns

alicent's actress said alicent meant to drown herself but after seeing the falcon in the sky, rhaenyra's mother's house sigil, decided against it and was instead reborn :) oh and cool fact, vermithor's former rider was king jaehaerys, hugh's grandfather!

cami ً

The dreamcon pics went hard you guys are steadily moving up in the world of content creators

Gary

i don’t think yall are understanding Jace’s point. He doesn’t care about the people, he cares about HIS claim to the throne and it’s a valid concern. His only claim to the throne is his dragon and his mom is now putting people in place who now have the same claim.

UnknownRNGS

team green has four including their younger brother daeron’s, tessarion aka the blue queen

sfxyor

Aemond pussy when he can't do a sneak attack he don't want that smoke.

JJ

Jace is such a bitch this episode 🤦🏽‍♂️

Kane

Vermithor and silverwing are pretty much opposites. Vermithor is fierce while silverwing is friendly and docile. You can see this in the way they bonded with their riders, vermithor got one who stepped up against him in battle, and silverwing just kinda nudged him like she was playing with him. Also fun fact silverwing and vermithor are very close and can often be found coiled together. Guess you can say opposites attract

Virtual TimeLine

And there’s no telling they’ll honor Jace as her heir if he is obviously a bastard and anyone can claim a dragon, they could turn around and treat him the same way they treated his mother and usurp him

Gyatt100

The only difference between Jace and the other bastards is that Jace is actually acknowledged and placed in line to the throne

Kacykiki

Roshi, those dragonkeeper niggas did NOT care about the people getting cooked. They only cared about the dragons and THEM not being part of men's games

Tejiri Ubiedi

I agree with Jace, everyone knows he a bastard since he looks nothing like a Targaryen, him having a dragon was one of his biggest claims to the throne and now that Rhaenyra is letting anyone have a dragon what else does Jace really have

Gyatt100

Please give me the version of the show where Sheera claims Vermithor. She's got the same aura Hugh had.

Gwyn

“Hugh I owe you an apology I wasn’t familiar with your game” - Vermithor

Dante Senpai

Bill is her cousin and Ulf is her uncle. Family tree is a whole trapezoid

nicholazsyx

Jace is mad because he is technically a bastard. He doesn’t feel legit because he was born of two people who aren’t married. He knows genetics wise he is a Targ. He in reality is no different than those other bastards.

Robert L

I hope they touch on the consequences of all the dragon keepers leaving. Who is going to feed them, clean up after them, or want to go near them at all, besides a Targaryen? Someone's gonna need to take up that duty and there's no way a bunch of people won't die in the training. The dragon keepers are almost a cult, they have a singular purpose. It's not just a job, they live, breathe, and likely will die to dragons. I wonder if they'll all go to king's landing since they are only interested in preserving Valyrian tradition. I doubt they cared at all that these people would die, it was about not being worthy.

John Cedar

i think what jace is more upset about himself than the other bastards, the myth behind dragon riders only dragon lords can be dragon riders so if was just a bastard his egg wouldnt hatch and wouldnt be able to claim a dragon, so having a dragon was prove enough that he was worthy of being heir in his mind, so bastards claiming dragons destroys that for him, so now he sees himself not being that special and just truly being a bastard and nothing can change that now, so by rhaeynra recruiting them it also destroys the last piece of legitimacy him being heir his dragon bond

John PAUL

This show so good it's got me learning high valerian.

Gwyn

Jace was making great points. Every single Dragonseed who rides for the Blacks will have the same claim as him

Culdesac Jadoni

Jace is worried about the fact that the ones would overtake him because yes he may be her heir but one with silver hair would have more claim

BONE DRAGON Vids

Jace talkin bout mongrels like he's not a whole B-A-S-T-A-R-D. Dumbass.

Tejiri Ubiedi

“I don’t need their love. I need their swords.” yeah, you’ll get their swords, through your back 💀

Seth Aasland

I pray that Jace dies. Not because I hate him but if Team Black Wins and he is crowned King after Rhanerya passes. It's gonna be another Dance all over again cause who is gonna listen to the King with one of the smallest dragons? Who?

Raging

"I am of salt and sea" Alyn gonna inherit Driftmark.

Tejiri Ubiedi

Ah big bill, every show he's in he says he's doing something for his family then completely does something they don't ask for.

Metweet .c

Poor Jace, I really feel for him. Since he was a child he's been mocked for his parentage. Plus luke is dead who understood his feelings so he's alone in his feelings

Metweet .c

Team Rhaenyra has 7 dragons Rhaenyra: Syrax Daemon: Caraxes Jace: Vermax Baela: Moondancer Addam: Seasmoke Hugh: Vermithor Ult: Silverwing Aemond team has 3 dragons Aemond: Vhagar Helena: Dreamfyre Aegon: Sunfyre

Mari

Yehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Hasnain Khan

He put some base in his voice and Vermithor said “oh I like that”

Basedra

I didn't think about it on first watch, but Aegon deadass acted his ass off. Nigga really sound like he suffering 💀

Tejiri Ubiedi

Lawnmower roaring like a dragon out there 😂

Quintin

You’d rather die than go to the walls ? You tweaking 😂

Kane

Roshi you bugging saying Jace bugging he got a point like now that these niggas got dragons if they just one day decided I wanna rule king landing its ups for niggas cuz they got dragons now he making a fair point 😭

Kingmakaii

Jace and Rhaenyra are both right. She's thinking in the present while he's thinking ahead. Yeah we need more dragon riders RIGHT NOW, but who's to say the people we let bond with these dragons will stay loyal.

Dannyboy

I like how Jace just instantlly know it was Mysaria who had that idea lol.

RF

Lmao i wish they could say nigga idky but I think it’d be funny asf to here

Kd

Imagine surviving the vermithor attack so you’re forced to go home traumatized and dragonless

nicholazsyx

Tonight. On Are You A Targaryen Bastard: The search for a Dragonrider.

Robert Blackett

Alicent's kingsguard is garp from one piece?!

Jamaal Ellison

All out War is about to commence. Alicent decides to have a fucking spa day…

Robert Blackett

Who else peeped garp

xProKnockz

I forgot they lived up to 80 years old so yes great-grandparents the good queen alysanne and the conciliator Jahaerys

PJ Rivera

Nah Vermie is a G, he would body the rest after the third blonde bum threw butchered Valyrian at him.

Jibril Ali Nur

Lord Oscar FUCKING Tully, ya heard

GrandNubian

How is Aemond going to send someone to the wall for service when the warden of the north is allied with Queen Rhaenrya? Seems like thats out of the greens territory..

Chipper

Bust a U turn is crazy🤣🤣🤣

Dante

I found it hilarious that Silverwing just let Ulf become her rider without a fight, then he goes to kings landing to show off/get Aemond to fall into a trap.

J C

Jace was clearly projecting his own insecurities but I've been on his side the entire season. Rhaenyra's giving away Nukes to anyone I'm sure that won't come back to bite her in the ass.

Jamaal Ellison

Sheera, the people starving ain't the ops. The ops eatin good 🤦‍♂️

Tejiri Ubiedi

Oscar put his whole dick on the table, beta male Daemon couldn't hang 💀

Tejiri Ubiedi

Rhenyreas great grandparents remember baelon is visarys dad

Kevin

Silverwing gotta be the best looking dragon after Caraxes, no lie.

Tejiri Ubiedi

Seeing aemond bitch out after jumping and bullying throughout the entire post time skip show is CINEMA, I TELL YOU. CINEMA

Tejiri Ubiedi

Yesss been waiting all day for this

Ashley

Rhaenyra could have just let those people go one by one until vermithor chose someone instead of 87% of them getting bodied

Prxj3ct

Yes

PJ Rivera

Yes

LeFlaneur

lmao aemond jumping and ambushing the entire series but now that it’s him being on the other side of it he runs away 🤭

mari

My name ain’t “Seasmoke” it’s “See Smoke!” Ok Lupa lol I see you!

Tierra Gipson

BILL IS HIM

bleach

been waiting for this one

jaelindumpling

They COOKED with the designs of vermithor and silverwing(dragon at the end). If anybody missed it those are rhaenyra’s grandparents dragons. Fun fact: Vermithor and Silverwing are the only known bonded dragon couple as even after their original riders deaths they still hunt, sleep, and hang with each other often coiling and cuddling together. Funny since vermithor is the fiercest dragon and silverwing is the nicest. Ying and yang vibes

PJ Rivera

My man aemond said I know a trap when I see one

Kazumasa

yall is Rickard luffy's grandpa from the live action?

AniyaNii

Excited for the finale next week!!!!

Chipper

First

Robert L


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