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Mushoku Tensei 2x23

nah they were wildin this episode lol

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Love u guys to Death for real

Farhan Moosvi

Uh, I hate when they skip important parts from the LN. No one wanted or could help Rudy. Roxy couldn't bear how depressed Rudy was after Paul's death, but she didn't know what to do. It was actually Elinalise who told her that sex is the best cure for man, so she did the only thing she was told she can do to help. Was it wrong? Of course, by our morals, definitely. Also, I'm not so sure it's ok for us to judge all their actions by our standards. In their world taking multiple wives for example is normal., but I can understand why we are so against it, we are all basically worshipers of Millis.

JB

W Rudy real cheek chaser

Kane

That’s a weird way to ask for a second wife

Ashanti Patmon

If my grandma told my husband to marry the mistress who he slept with WHILE I'M PREGNANT WITH HIS KID, it'd be World War 3 lol. Everyone is getting put on a shirt, cause wtf?!?!

Orlandez Malone

Why?

ShaquanVirse

When y’all react to the new episode have a tomato on standby for my sake n throw it please n thank u🤣

Kd

If someone who has been forced to physically love as many people as possible under pain of death talks to you about emotional love. You can probably take that to the bank. There are probably very few people in this world who have been forced to think about, and deal with love as much as Elinalise has. Her character is an amalgam of all the best and worst metaphors about people who work in the sex industry and how they are seen. A true anchor character for Rudy, and not one whose ideas or advice should be so easily discarded.

David Rose

This particular world has a lot of religions and the only one that doesn't practice polygamy is the milis faith. Outside of then it's a fairly common practice. Different world logic

Joseph Adams

And increase we forget, his dad, now his friends, God all said take another wife. While Sylphie has openly stated openness to Rudeus taking a concubine (ep15 of this season, 6:30 into the ep). By all accounts there have been signs of something like this happening for the majority of the later half of this season.

E

the way i see it is that the anime, probably due to budget and deadline constraints, didn't have enough time to properly display how bad of a place Rudy was in. If Roxy wasn't there for Rudy at this time, he would've been in a much darker place and perhaps irredeemable. Elinalise said he would be fine but remember, she's allowed to be wrong. If you don't like the portrayal of this episode, i think that's fine, but objectively speaking I think it's clear Rudy would've been thrown in to the deep end mentally. As a character he looks like he's 1 tragedy away from becoming a deadbeat/villain/anti-hero(or whatever). Roxy undid a lot of the damage here and prevented him from going down a bad path. no one's a fan of people having multiple partners but i've already gotten past it at this point.

danial javady

Also are we forgetting who Elinalise is? Until Cliff it was NEVER in her character to be with one person. Hell Paul and Elenalise from what we know were quite open in their relationships.

E

Man, being a man is tough. Rudy hated Paul long enough to become him. I couldn't finish this episode alone. I had to see the reaction

Uriel Batuk

Bros the anime did this event so wrong

Jose silva

What culture has ever had polygamy as a norm for the general person and also been a successful culture?

Dylan

The LN definitely eased into the Roxy situation alot better and the stakes for Rudys mental health were alot higher. Rudy was actually completely ruined and was essentially gonna spiral into suicide had roxy not stepped in, and it was more than just a bang and he was good so this definitely felt like kinda awkward in comparison

Vayne

I’m just here for the ride. I don’t feel any kind of way about polygamy. It’s wild how they went about but I’ve seen a lot of people say the author changed how things are going in the anime. And apparently some context was cut out as well. I imagine this was much more, digestible? In the LN. What I really want to see is Rudy pull up on Eris with his STACKED harem 😂💀😭

Eli Kisamo

this wasn't acceptable in our modern world but the time period here in their world is different from us and the norm is different so and it's also fiction, but I also get it, I'm also conflicted lmao

hypokokoro

I mean its normal in this world that you can have multiple wifes if you dont follow Millis and we cant forget that Elinalise just found out that Silphie is her granddaughter. She probably spend more time with Roxy because they traveled together after the teleportation and has a closer bond with her. So she prioritises roxy over Silphie.

Wiggly Gecko

Paul is smiling from the heavens watching this unfold

6CatsInAnAlley

The anime did a really crap job adapting this whole thing, left a bunch of stuff out that's makes this look way worse than in the LN. Like, it's still not a pretty situation, but the anime is missing mad context🤦🏾

Tre Staples

Alot of things this episode was changed and cut. Reason supposedly is author made tweets talking about wanting to make things more acceptable for a wider audience which is concerning. Even though how things went this episode in some aspects(in my opinion) might be worse then how they happened in the light novel. But since the author has a say in this adaptation and seemingly took part in making these changes and over all is involved makes it better than the studio being the ones who change things.

Jamie See

I get the reaction they had. Just gotta remember to keep an open mind when watching anime. The way it played out is much more realistic than any other show I've seen with any harems or polygamy. Rudy been away from his wife for months, both his parents are gone, Paul dead, Zenith a possible vegetable the rest of her life. Now a woman he has literally worshipped his whole life is making a move. I've seen men break covenants under way less pressure. She was there to comfort him and Silphy wasn't. Not her fault and that doesn't make it right but I can see how one would end up in that situation with all things considered and it being a fantasy world. Idk how anyone banked on Elinalise being some kind of good role model to follow this episode. She is an elf who is cursed with nymphomania and has probably had more lovers than double the maximum human lifespan of the setting of the story. Her response wasn't far off from what I'd realisticly expect from cursed, nympho, elf, grandma.

Kevin Brown

Just so y'all know the reason elinelise didn't really react negatively to rudy sleeping with roxy is because she is actually the one who got roxy to sleep with rudy in the light novels. Unfortunately that conversation was cut out and wasn't in the episode.

Jamie See

yeah this reaction was hilarious 😭, like someone else said they both should be blamed for cheating but the anime makes it seem like polygamy is normal so Elise didn't do anything wrong by suggesting it unless she knows sylphie is against it

Austin S

Great and funny ass reaction! This show is flames!!

damein brown

All I’m gonna say is welcome to Isekai where Harem is a popular genre here.

JJ_loves_日本

Yehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Hasnain Khan

someone def said this im sure in here, but in they absolutely removed a LOT of important story shit with this episode from the LN. From how long hes been locking himself up(Weeks), and how the group was actually tryin to find a way to get him out, the idea to have someone sleep with him, how it was Rudy's idea to marry Roxy after the incident, and the most important one, where Rudeus telling Roxy about his past life.(he tells it as a 'what if' tale but that still VERY IMPORTANT). i know they pressed for time n shit, but damn i feel like those are too important details to just....remove from the story. Then again, they are telling this thru Rudeus' side of the story but idk. im leanin towards i dont like it.

Jazmyne Mattucci

With the way this is going i have a feeling rudy gonna marry eris

Ayanda Mpofu

What’s weird about Zenith to me is one detail they referred to. She was seen wandering around the town and in the caves. If she was trapped by that hydra the entire time since the great teleportation who tf was seen wandering the town? Sum else is goin on here.

MethodTKT

Rudy was essentially drunk when she slept with him, he was not in his right state of mind and mentally totally in the gutter. If he came onto a woman in the same mental state he'd be at fault not the girl. Like Roxy said, SHE took Advantage of him. Once he was in his right mind he made sure to clear things up. I respect the Author for his commitment to this being another world lol, They dont have the same views on marriage as ours, dif dietys, religions, norms, etc. If you worship this God, polygami is off the table but otherwise its not uncommon, just up to them. We as the viewer and Rudy himself are imposing rules on that nobody else is necessarily imposing. Def needs to talk to sylphie but she was open to him having a concubine. Dif context for sure, but she did crack the door a little already. Rudy def aint in the right but thats mainly for going against his own word and allowing himself to get taken advantage of like he did.

Vincent S Deluca

It's gonna be so funny when all the people upset realize that this is arguably the best decision he makes in the entire series.

Zafkiel

The mental gymnastics in the comments to defend cheating is kinda funny. Yes, applying real world morals to a fantasy world is pointless, but even in Rudy's mind he was unfaithful. Man can go on from here and create his own harem for all I care, but he was still unfaithful in this situation. That is all.

Omar

I’m not even surprised 😭

Saucy Jonathan

I'll never get over the self reporting of Mushoku fans haha. W reaction though

Christian Clark

Round 2 😳

tyster 420

This should of been a rudy episode and ended with roxy coming in the room at the end it's somewhat watchable as an anime only but jesus this is one time they shouldn't of skipped all the content way too important and the changes make roxy out to be a rapist when it was in fact rudeus who pushed her down roxy was just offering herself to be used and so much more skipped content (like rudy basically hinting/telling roxy about the fact he's a reincarnation) I really recommend reading the light novel chapter just for this Volume 12 and start on chapter 10 and read to 12 and then stop there

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