Fall of the House of Usher Ep 8
Added 2023-12-01 17:00:15 +0000 UTCLoved every moment of this show! Such a great watch!
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Verna also said during negotiations that they could've done good with the company. They always had a choice if they would do good or bad after that deal. Lenore did good and it had a positive effect that will save millions vs. her grampa who caused millions of deaths.
Huggybabi89
2024-02-17 03:48:47 +0000 UTCAbsolutely love Midnight Mass. That show really hits all the marks when it comes to poignancy. Provoking thought. Good stuff.
My Big Little Brother
2024-02-07 19:22:45 +0000 UTCI dont get how Madeline understood that consumers are just fed slop and then blames them for it. She says the system is used against them and then uses it for her own self gain. I cant respect her personally.
DarquanJr
2024-01-15 15:36:34 +0000 UTCThis story was absolutely crazy
Bobby Robinson
2023-12-30 20:34:17 +0000 UTCso it just clicked with this last convo between verna and pym. he told the ushers that in his travels he found that the earth was hollow and that there are mystical entities with powers there........she said she had to "go topside" to see the expedition and that thats when he saw her.....which means shes just confirmed that in this story there are ancient powers that live inside the hollow earth.......shes either some kind of interdimentional demon/devil/angel of death....or is quite literally some primordial power manifest due to interest in human beings.
Vivian Woods
2023-12-24 15:52:22 +0000 UTCNow that I think about it, I wonder did Rod and Maddy's parents make a similar deal with Verna to be successful. That would explain how their mom came back from the dead, killed the father, and then died again.
Corey Leach
2023-12-15 11:36:33 +0000 UTCI can't wait to watch Midnight Mass with you all. I think you'll dig it!
Craig Nelson
2023-12-11 00:09:49 +0000 UTCWhat I think it was was that they couldve had nicer deaths if they listened to her and did the right thing in the end
Davido
2023-12-10 16:31:16 +0000 UTCword*
Husky
2023-12-08 11:19:47 +0000 UTCBtw Verna made it clear in the terms. She said "next generation" thinking that they wouldn't have any grandchildren because of this deal. That's why she seemed disappointed when she said, "I didn't think I'd have to spell out the world 'bloodline'".
Husky
2023-12-08 11:19:26 +0000 UTCTo follow up with the "Karma" thing, karma works like give and take. You receive something and in return you give something. The same deal that Verna offers.
Husky
2023-12-08 11:11:33 +0000 UTCI believe that Verna is the embodiment of "Karma". She approaches when individuals make a wrong choice, Mad and Rod killing their boss, give them an ultimatum and they decide. Their deaths are contingent on what they do in their life.
Husky
2023-12-08 11:06:42 +0000 UTCThis is wild even if the ushers were good it didnt matter since the deal was the whole bloodline gets clapped once the dad time was up thats crazy
Reckless Company
2023-12-07 20:31:48 +0000 UTCThe only usher I felt bad for was Lenore. She really got the short end of the stick.
Dune
2023-12-06 10:45:25 +0000 UTCYeah her whole "We're not the villains, we're just playing along in an already fucked up world" is trash.
Dune
2023-12-06 10:43:07 +0000 UTCGreat show. The last show that I watched it all in one sitting like this was Squid game, and it is totally worth it. There is one thing that I dont understand though: if the price is their bloodline and their deaths are predetermined, why did the lady have to warn them (Perry, Camilla and Leo)?
Victor
2023-12-06 06:36:57 +0000 UTCyeah, midnight mass was way different too. Fall of the house of usher it was more of the same, in my opinion. To this date, i think the first series and midnight mass were the more creative of the bunch
Samuel XK
2023-12-05 16:29:49 +0000 UTCSeason 2 is fire fr a lot better than season 1 😌
Blueechante
2023-12-05 16:02:44 +0000 UTCMidnight mass is better
Danger Tomato
2023-12-03 17:22:14 +0000 UTCso just because people want stuff that gives you an excuse to sell shit to them that lady was evil and just wanted money and nothing to blame on consumers it was funny how she died
Naaim Nassif
2023-12-03 06:34:30 +0000 UTCNaah they said "let the next-generation pay the bill" , even if they called it the bloodline after its b.s.
Nate D.
2023-12-03 05:57:50 +0000 UTCyea roshi would have lost that court case in a good 30 seconds
Ezio
2023-12-02 21:32:41 +0000 UTCthey said they were but roshi saw the comments about us not wanting it so he's gonna do a poll for it
britt
2023-12-02 20:28:52 +0000 UTCYou guys doing Sweet Home Season 2? It's already looking way better than Season 1
J Man
2023-12-02 14:19:19 +0000 UTCShe did use the word bloodline. Not sure how people are getting confused.
Sekraan
2023-12-02 12:05:10 +0000 UTCNot sure that was a net positive. All the lives saved by the Phoenix Foundation multiply exponentially because they help others in turn over time. Conversely, all the deaths and suffering due to ligodone are legion, and all those people and deaths hurt others in turn. I suspect the deal was a net negative for humanity.
Sekraan
2023-12-02 12:04:00 +0000 UTCThe key contractual term is "your bloodline ends with you." No ambiguity there.
Sekraan
2023-12-02 12:01:26 +0000 UTCNo, just the things they did created good as an after effect, kinda like how villains make heroes in a sense.
CAM
2023-12-02 08:36:09 +0000 UTCI think so as well....but it was probably easier to say generations so Roderick didn't even attempt to adopt or leave that up for debate as a loop hole if that makes sense
TrinitytheApostle
2023-12-02 08:13:42 +0000 UTCSo in other words......they're heroes? (Not serious)
TrinitytheApostle
2023-12-02 08:10:58 +0000 UTCWait Verna is an anagram for Raven….im mad it just clicked this episode
NocticKid
2023-12-02 03:01:43 +0000 UTC42:00 Implying Trump made a deal with the devil lmao
Archer
2023-12-02 02:30:46 +0000 UTCfrr the poor thing
icynub
2023-12-02 02:23:59 +0000 UTCI was ready to turn the show off lol
kingBD
2023-12-02 02:22:56 +0000 UTCI think the linchpin moment that changed their fate was whether they betrayed Auggie. If Rodrick didn’t I think he would have lost his job, been black listed from any company, and probably lived a life as poet as a career but took odd jobs to make money. In this timeline, Auggie would have probably been his family friend and they would have helped each other but never really got to far out of poverty.
Cameron Robinson
2023-12-02 01:44:14 +0000 UTCIf you think about it, them doing bad and taking that deal ended up creating even greater good after the fact to saving even more lives over the world than they killed 🤔
CAM
2023-12-02 01:41:04 +0000 UTCReally interesting move to make a horror story where terrible things happen to terrible people. You have to be really on-point with the writing to make characters who are both compelling and truly awful, which each of the Ushers were. Just the absolute worst, every one of them except Lenore.
William
2023-12-02 00:29:35 +0000 UTCJust about the wording of the contract. If you interpret her use of the words "next generation" as just the generation of all his kids, well his kids are all from different generations lol the age gap between Perry and Freddy is like ~30 years. So she had to have meant all generations after Roderick and Madeleine. But she did elaborate on what she meant by next generation by mentioning all Ushers born and yet to be born depart the stage together before they agreed. I think anyway
Owen Smyth
2023-12-02 00:01:37 +0000 UTCYehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Hasnain Khan
2023-12-02 00:01:30 +0000 UTCLenor broke me i actually wanted her to live happily but W ending
icynub
2023-12-01 23:17:45 +0000 UTCShit I missed that comment
Amos
2023-12-01 22:54:36 +0000 UTCthey were able to point out that juno’s actress was in midnight club when she first showed up so i assume they’ve seen it?
Bria A.
2023-12-01 22:53:03 +0000 UTCnow midnight mass maam and sir.
earlthegoddd
2023-12-01 22:40:09 +0000 UTCI wonder after midnight mass if they would watch the midnight club same dude just different direction
Amos
2023-12-01 22:14:15 +0000 UTCyes bro its greay
Amos
2023-12-01 22:13:38 +0000 UTCAlso, in the end the show is ultimately about consequences and actions. There are a lot of things you can't control but it's about the things you can change. All the kids had no control over the deal their elders made, so they were all going to die in the end, but they could've not been assholes. The grand daughter was the only one who died a peaceful death and had a lasting legacy that outlived her. Everyone else died violently and left behind nothing but a trail of destruction.
RF
2023-12-01 22:06:33 +0000 UTCFooting the bill to the next generation doesn't mean that the generations that follow after that are scot free. The deal is a metaphor for how destructive a lot of these types of companies are in real life. They don't build anything or make things that are sustainable, they just suck out the life out of the planet and population. They know they'll die before they really get to see the consequences of their actions and that it'll be everyone else who comes after who will have to clean up after them. The difference is that Verna dismantled everything and saved Rod and Mad for last so they could see the consequences of their actions.
RF
2023-12-01 22:06:15 +0000 UTCplease watch the midnight mass. IMO my best to (not worse but) not as strong: Hill house, Midnight mass and House of Usher close tie, bly manor. I havent watched midnight club but thats where perry is from
Miki
2023-12-01 21:42:57 +0000 UTCYes! Midnight Mass and Black Sails as a trio reaction please!
WAFFLETITS
2023-12-01 20:44:28 +0000 UTCWhen she said something about shooting somebody on 5th Avenue she was talking about Donald Trump😆😆😆😆
Don9945
2023-12-01 19:58:08 +0000 UTCIs midnight mass gas like Peak of Usher?
Delinda Arts
2023-12-01 19:46:26 +0000 UTCPersonally I think they should just said “bloodline” and left the word “generation” out of the deal.
Delinda Arts
2023-12-01 19:45:44 +0000 UTCMidnight Mass is a must!!!!
Brenda
2023-12-01 19:25:44 +0000 UTCSo Verna is an anagram for Raven and really supports the idea of her being a spirit of fate
Avery
2023-12-01 19:06:07 +0000 UTCJustice for Lenore, but I get it, Death doesn’t play favorites (but it does show mercy). 😔
Bria A.
2023-12-01 19:05:21 +0000 UTCI've been hearing this subtle buzzing in your audio lately.
The thing that flows
2023-12-01 18:52:19 +0000 UTCThe thing about the show is it was never about morality she said when the deal was made they could do whatever they want but when its time to collect the whole bloodline ends. The only reason the other kids deaths seem like it is because Verna was just a mirror showing them who they are
J-or-Dan
2023-12-01 18:51:29 +0000 UTCI thought this show was pretty good, but I still think Midnight Mass felt so much more impactful with its characters. There's a few scenes from that series I just won't forget and I really do think that it's Mike Flanagan's best work so far. And it'd be funny watching it now since some of the same actors from Usher are in that too. 😂 I hope you guys check it out after this, since you had a good time with Usher! It was fun rewatching with yall lol.
qitty
2023-12-01 18:39:00 +0000 UTCYou can think of the deal and the terms as having changed. When he made the deal he only had two kids but time went on and he continued to have kids and his son had a kid. But the deal at the time was the next generation foots the bill, you and your bloodline will die. At the time his bloodline was his sister and his kids. But as time passed because Roderick had kids and his bloodline grew. Resulting in his granddaughter ending up becoming part of the deal. Had it been specified his kids then the granddaughter would have been spared. However, it was the next generation, his bloodline. Which covered the uncertainty of the future. The sister was smart she understood the terms and didn’t have kids.
Jamir Blue
2023-12-01 18:37:30 +0000 UTCFortunato is the name of the guy in the Cask of Amontillado who suffers the same fate as Griswold.
Red Death
2023-12-01 18:36:37 +0000 UTCYou know that's probably a big part of why the sister didn't have any kids. There wouldn't be a point.
Jamaal Ellison
2023-12-01 18:18:29 +0000 UTCPumped for some possible Midnight Mass
Gabriel
2023-12-01 18:09:46 +0000 UTCMidnight Mass is a MUST next !
Reign
2023-12-01 17:47:07 +0000 UTCMidnight mass!!
BlueSmurf
2023-12-01 17:30:52 +0000 UTCMidnight Mass 👀
Hasani Wilmer
2023-12-01 17:27:30 +0000 UTCMidnight mass next?👀
Amos
2023-12-01 17:16:39 +0000 UTC*Sigh I just want to take it nice and slow. 😭
Jamaal Ellison
2023-12-01 17:08:08 +0000 UTC
