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Hell's Paradise Ep 5

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Author really said fuck sexism all my homies hate sexism

Shawn Oxley

Y’all have to stop throwing around words like “misogyny” if y’all are just gonna misuse it where it doesn’t apply

Canime23

the anime said "your gonna be a misogynist? ok, perish then

Lemonkatze

I like that blond samurai. I always enjoy characters who are part of the "evil" side but chose to do the right thing at their own risk! It always bugged me how the bad guys always find homogenously evil people.

Aziouss

i think it was instinct not character development

PolarToni

do they not realize this is literally how women were treated in those times? Them folk literally didnt give af.

Ace The FireDragon

bro wanted ribs for dinner

zentian00

Bruh I saw that chunk of meat and I felt pain in my side. That shit happened way to fast.

Izanagi15

Thats just him thinking all women need to be protected

zer0clue

Bro came out of nowhere and karate chopped a chuck of meat out of that guy

Bosastar

that big dude is being twitter in that world rn, cancelling all these sexist characters lol

Nabi

Anyone notice the instant character development with Genji? He pushed Sagiri away from that all mighty bitch slap and saved her immediately after trying to end her. He went from "I'm gonna have to put this woman in her place," one second, to "this bitch gotta die" the next, onto saving her from a damn good reason as to why the kitchen ain't so bad and proving himself right. Growth lmao.

Kevin Brown

what does misogynistic mean?

darnay mayberry

what does misogynistic mean?

darnay mayberry

what does misogynistic mean?

darnay mayberry

Roshi’s reaction at the end of the episode was hilarious. 🤣

Earphone Jack

Nurugai didn’t set them up on purpose. She was trying to give them a place to rest because they were tired, not knowing they were looking to execute her village.

Julius

@Fernando Perez I’ve heard the argument of not every women wanna have kids or not even women can get pregnant. Those arguments doesn’t hold any strong counter arguments as you’re talking about the minorities and it’s literally not the points that I’m taking about. Straw man argument right there. I stated that only women has the ability to get pregnant and propagate the species, that’s why it’s so important to protect our women and men has been used as commodities. Yes age is a big factor as the anime literally discussed about how Sagiri is avoiding the burden that comes with killing people and how mentally weak she is. That’s a fair point that she would’ve been considered adults back then but doesn’t change the fact that she wasn’t prepared for the mission as she literally faded in front of the criminal and that’s called liability. Sagiri would have been killed if everyone else wasn’t there or if Gabimaru hadn’t any attachment towards her.

nemui

Bro are yal watching the same anime she was mentally stronger at the prison that’s why she was able to help him realize he wanted to live and he actually loved his wife he was having a mental breakdown and even cried how can yal skip pass all of that when they fought a second time he literally was going to kill her but she helped him calm down and strengthen his resolve that he could be better that’s why he thanked her it seems like yal are ignoring these facts on purpose just to swing a narrative that will never see the light of day xD

Patrone07

Practical strength is not physical strength if you payed attention he said she was alot stronger in the prison because that’s were he was having a metal break down not sure why he wanted to live and she help him see the truth that he loved his wife and befor they started the recent convo he thanked her for calming him down and helping him strengthen his resolve and that’s why he said she’s stronger than him but he doesn’t fully acknowledge how because he doesn’t deal with emotions she’s not weak but she’s not stronger than him physically

Patrone07

No, he said a "practical strength." Mental strength is quite literally the EXACT area where Sagiri is NOT stronger. Like, that's the entire thing about her character right now.

ok

roshi just discovering why tentacles are often used in hentai lmao

StarFuture

It was explicitly stated. I'm very surprised there is so much confusion over it? We see her invited them into her village, then we see them all being slaughtered while she says "I'm sorry I led them here." Like

ok

The literal no reaction to the Sanka being massacred and the role played by her in it was crazy. Then I realized y'all didn't even register any of it lmfao 12:30

ok

It means a capable strength but not necessarily a consistent or confident strength. strength that can unbalanced by self doubt or downright bad luck.

Randle Dandle

I need the backstory of how they caught this big nigga and kept him in jail like how he sneak up on them lol

Reckless Company

So I think since Nurugai didn't know about this whole Emishi thing (which seems to be a term the shogunate used to refer to those who intentionally hid themselves to avoid being under the shogunate rule), he unknowingly led them back to the village, leading to them all being killed. Seems like he's putting that weight all on himself

WeavyBoo

Big guy just senses sexism doesn’t he

jonluke santillana

@Cory I mean honestly genji hasn't done shit himself either he cut one thing and then got low diffed by rokurota. Sagiri has blitzed the blade out of his hand and was able to fight gabimaru at least somewhat while feeling emotionally struggling to kill him. Which to be fair gabimaru was also holding back but both those things are more then what genji has done. Even if sagiri is not suitable then Genji is well not the one to talk he should have been the first to go home honestly because his criminal died immediately. Sagiri was able to take his weapon before he noticed and he himself hasn't done much.

Angelo

@Jayden Holder You proving my point its not mental strenght that gabimaru is reffering too beacuse she hasn't shown better mental strenght then gabimaru. She has been hesitating for most of the time. The only way that makes sense is fi you assume sagiri has shown more mental strenght then gabimaru which she clearny if anything she has been doubting herself the most. Even on murdering criminals trying to attack sagiri she dobuts. gabimaru has the stronger mental strenght beacuse while he acknowledges murder is bad he is ready to carry that burden if he needs to against somebody that is trying to kill him. Gabimaru said its not a impression its pratical strenght he isn't implying anything by talking about practical. he even mentions heart body and skill, Skill can be effected mentally but it isn't nessecarrily a mental thing. Similairly Genji says she is skilled with the blade.

Angelo

Can someone give me an idea of wat practical strength is by looking it up, Google being dumb, I hate it when it gives me different answers

Jayden Holder

Yehhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

Hasnain Khan

@Angelo then why did she lose at the island against him, if she was mentally stronger when she fought him the second, then she would've put up a better fight

Jayden Holder

Buddies ribs 💀

Joel Braaten

Yeeaaah?? So? She said she wasn’t wit it. He was gonna make her play her role? Nah his head would’ve been in his lap, she already took his sword so technically killed his ass once already. But he got snuck up on by a giant that she noticed before him so guess he didn’t have those battle skills he talked about either.

Offw0rlder

She can dust his ass tho. If she shouldn’t be there neither should he

Mufid Lassissi

How did nobody see that dude?

承恩 劉

@Victor I agree with you on that. It certainly was the norm. Just not sure why Danny felt the need to go that deep into gender roles and such.

Fernando Perez

I really enjoyed this reaction!

Emman Reed

Roshi! What drink were you drinking??? 😂

RUtheDon

Also he's not wrong. Sagiri better start fuck shit up or fuck off w/ her freezing ass

Skebaba

The Shogun DIDN'T choose her, Yamada Clan does its own internal ranks based on various factors, the Shogun just told the niggas to just pick top w/e numbers (since we know that Sagiri is the lowest ranked at 12, there are thus ONLY 12 Asaemon in total, and all of the mfs are on this island rn), so they simply yeeted out all Ranked ppl out there cuz it was bigboi order by Shogun to get this shit so he can become immortal (and thus rule Japan eternally as someone immortal has no need for successors whatsoever, and pissants would legit see him as someone who rightfully is the ruler by Divine Right, since clearly he's immortal so the gods must want him to rule 24/7, simple as) ASAP.

Skebaba

No that's just a rumor, it's never 100% confirmed by the higher up older ppl in the Clan (i.e the current Clan administration + Head). I suppose it's not without a logical basis however, given how big of a boon this would be for the Shogun, ergo more Honor to the Yamada Clan as a collective if it succeeds, and surviving this shit would prove your combat skills + leadership skills

Skebaba

Rokurota be like: "Misogyny detected. Initiating Elimination Mode"

Skebaba

@Mad4Life Nah Gabimaru practical which can mean to be able to be done or put in to action not mentally. Mentally doesn't make any sense because mentally she has been insecure which pretty sure gabimaru knows. Gabimaru said strong at the prison which at the time of the prison she was trying to behead gabimaru. Its not mental strenght. I Don't know why people mention mental when she has been insecure this entire time that just doesn't make any sense if you paid attention.

Angelo

That giant must be feminist

Oh Alone

Didn't they say that the asaemon that succeeded in bringing back the elixir would be next head of the clan? Probably why bro was trying mad hard to dissuade her (besides the misogyny).

Joshua Saucedo

Though he is being misogynistic, its easy to say that when your living in modern times, in his environment and time period the job of taking care of the house and watching the children was the task of the women of the house (For better or worse), is what he saying rude? yes, but can you understand why he the way he is? Also yes

Kimani Irish

This is why y'all got to understand that the whole "Product of my environment" thing holds true. He was straight up just stating how the world works, he never even really insulted her, he was just saying that Men and Women have different roles in their society. Hell from what we've seen from her so far, he's right. They've been there for 1 day and homegirl had to be rescued at least 5 times. Take away her plot armor and she would already be dead.

Phroug

Japan Culture is very Misogynistic, more than any country, I think this show is some type of critique of that.

Sy'mon Almeida

Dude is dead, he's missing everything between his ribs and his waist. His liver, stomach and intestines are gone so he'll bleed out in seconds. Giant is somehow silent and not giving off a killing vibe for everyone else to detect?

SakakiMaya

Perez I'm not saying that you're in the wrong here, but as danny and the others said, misogynists are the majority at that time. They didn't feel anything wrong about that because that they were taught and they believed. I'm not defending them either, but that was the society several centuries ago. Gabimaru was really ahead of his time here for his thinking, and even his affection for his wife was abnormal for a ninja like him.

Victor

How u gon let this Mf sneak up on you 😭

Leandro Da Silva

in real life sure but in this world everyone is superhuman. she is here for a reason and the shogun chose her its not his place to question the shoguns choice

Q

@nemui. This may come as a surprise to you, but not all women wanna have kids. Also, its an anime. Age doesn’t matter in these shows. I mean, Gabimaru is literally 16. Not to mention that back in these times the two of them would’ve likely been considered adults.

Fernando Perez

@Danny you typed all of that to defend a fictional character who said “Women should just stay home and have kids”. Not sure why you felt the need to bring up most of what you said. Regardless of whether men and women are better suited/better for certain roles, it is nobody’s right to dictate or command what role someone should adhere to, which is what Genji did this episode. That’s just being sexist and an asshole. Its so crazy to me that the show goes out of its way to show you the amount of sexism Sagiri has had to deal with in her life and people are so quick to defend the dudes doing it and be like “well maybe the sexists aren’t totally wrong!”

Fernando Perez

Detects his prey by smelling the misogyny lmao

Tsunami Wave

Mofo looked so nonchalant while killing everyone too

Dyastro

He must be a feminist

Dyastro

Nah yo this Big Show ass mf just teleports behind Gengi (idk that samurai dude name fr I think it’s Gengi) UNDETECTED? Shawty is literally staring straight at bro and ain’t see his Bigfoot ahh? what are we doing here??!!😭😭😭😭😭😭

Jalani Abdul-Aziz

This nigga built like Shaq fr

Sham3ful

I mean yeah he wanted her to go home and live, but the only problem is he wanted her to go home and live because she was a woman. Good heart shit mindset

William Morris

yo roshi where did you get that t-shirt shit is fire

Ketsu

Maybe it's just me, but I always try to understand people's mentality, by first understanding the time period. A women's duty at that time was to take of care of the family and home, especially those in high houses. 99.9999% of women were like this, so it's unconventional when one decides to not live by those standards. They are being misogynistic, but it's not without reason. As far as her being a samurai. It's not much different than today. Many people do not want women in active combat because they are not as physically strong as men, making it dangerous. Would you rather fight next to a 200 lbs man or a 130 lbs women? One of them is able to carry you to safety much easier than the other.

Joey Zero

Great points danny. kinda tired of hearing this idea of its sexism when it only doesnt benefit them. Being able to bear child is something that only female can do and male cant. So if we want to propagate our species, its only natural for female and children to be mitigating the risks and avoiding themselves from dangerous situations. btw Sagiri is only 17 and i dont think any 17 years old should be doing this jobs.

nemui

This is what I thought too

RK

I love how sheera is complaning about the details on the monster lol

nemui

So this big ass nigga is super stong, SUPER FAST, and stealthy???? WTF who's pardoning this man????

Hammhoxx

In the manga, it’s confirmed that Sagiri is one of the series strongest fighters. However when she feels insecure ( mostly around her family) she’s too much in her own head to perform properly. In single combat or fueled by conviction she is a total beast, as proven by her sword snatching from that guy.( that scene is hilarious btw.)

Zachary Shepard

Eizen is still with him :) I mean only if he hasn't shit yet.

Hammhoxx

Yeah you will learn as the series goes on, Gabimaru is not one to be trifled w/ only two characters in the entire series that are realistically stronger than him

Antares

Man this episode was slow but episode 3 was too fast. We learned about the Nurugai the Sanka's backstory and then Rokurota shows up.

earthphoenix7068

McDonalds has announced the new Genji McRib lmao

Ethan

Am I to believe that the Giant snuck up on them just as quickly as she stole the guys weapon, if not faster? Damn that's crazy...

Spriggz

Okay, you didn't have to in that deep mate, but I won't deny those were some great points

Lawson Lowe

You'll see what he meant as the series goes on

Lawson Lowe

Genji gettin a whole lot of hate (admittedly he deserves it for the misogynistic comments) but some of what he was sayin was facts. She hasn't done much other than pass out since they arrived. Plus despite all he said, his literal last move was to push her out of the way of certain death. He's a douche but not a bad guy imo

Cory .

That's the SECOND time an Asaemon told Sagiri to go "live as a woman" and got clapped by Rokurouta!

Tsunami Wave

I don't get the vibe that he meant she was stronger mentally at all. He said it himself, he doesn't really know how to describe the feeling he felt. It was like an instinct going off at full throttle; He knew he would be killed by her.

danial javady

I laughed so hard when dudes ribs got slapped off

SnailSpray

he wasnt aiming for her, its clearer in the manga, basically just trying to show her whose boss,

Steve

He did get clapped but I'm pretty sure he also protected her and pushed her out the way lol

EmoBurrito

Day 2: Humbly Requesting a Trio movie reaction for Scott Pilgrim vs. The World

Xaiver Craig

So just to clarify, she was capping about having a sister and all that shit. She just doesn't wanna die lol

Mervyn Larrier

Bear nigga: gimme them ribs boy

Domier

someone gotta link me roshis shirt

Stale

Genji was acting so stupid lol. Suggesting she should leave wouldn't even be a problem (she was clearly flustered) but if she wanna stay then you shouldn't even say nah. That is HER criminal. Then bro went full misogynist for no reason lol and started arguing and yeah he did seem serious lol

Hello

@Devin Alexander I never said they didn't.

Mad4Life

The misogynists in this series are the epitome of Talk Shit Get Hit and I'm here for it.

Gilthwixt

Alright ima need Sagiri to show us that she's a problem by getting justice for Eizen next ep because right now everyone is kinda speaking facts that this job isn't for her. (not that she should be in the kitchen or bear children but just do anything other than be an asaemon) She even said herself that she's weak and inexperienced but she took Genji's sword in the blink of an eye AND Gabimaru felt that she could actually execute him back at the prison so I think her biggest issue is fear

Erica Collins

@Fernandez not everyone thinks the same but it was a norm. MAJORITY thought that but not every single one. Most likely the older ones too. Theres always exceptions to the rule but it was like that. Its like how the saying "Women and children first" came to be when it comes to who to save first. The children first for their innocence and they are the future, and then the women who can give birth to them. Men were considered a latter priority. That was how chivalry worked. Ofc it does portray the idea of sexism or strict adherence to gender roles which are taboo nowadays. But its not considered sexist if women are given a priority for rescuing because...well it benefits them. Its only sexist if its a bad thing. The unfortunate truth of it all is that the so-called gender equality that many preach can never be a thing. Men and women each play a different role in our society regardless of what many WANT to believe. How many women do you see applying for hard labor such as construction? Sewer? Soldiers? All these jobs are typically reserved for men who are more physically able to do so and their lives are on the line. Im not saying that all a women needs to do is cook and do housework dont get me wrong. If anything, a housewife is unproductive for both sides. Housewives tend to have no motivation due to staying at home all the time and end up being bored or having a midlife crisis (applies to house-husbands too). But there are always roles one gender can do better than the other. IMO a women are better at nurturing children due to their motherly and caring nature. Not to say a father cant do the same thing but usually a single mother > single father. Having both parents is obviously the best option, im just speaking hypotheticals. And this isnt absolute as individuals differ but im just generalizing. For the best financial scenario, whoever earns more should be the breadwinner lol but overall a mother is better at taking care of children. The only thing I can think of that is truly "unequal" is the concept of unequal wages of how women may be paid less than a man in a similar job. Although there are arguments that say most women dont have the ambition to argue/compete for a higher salary, idk how reliable that is so I cant say much about that. So in the end, the takeaway is that gender roles will always exist and isnt "wrong" but forcing someone to be in that role is incorrect. If a women wishes to be a soldier then thats her choice. Do I personally think its the best choice? No, but thats not my decision to make. Sagiri clearly has the skills to be the best but lacks experience and the mindset. In all honesty, it has nothing to do with being a woman and more to do to the fact shes rly young (and no Gabimaru is an exception since hes been fighting all his life against actual opponents).

Danny

Doesn’t mean I have to like it just because it was how it was

Miguel Angel Ramirez-Alvarez

You act like they don’t all do it

RainSD

@NecDW4 I mean, I don’t think anyone’s criticizing the show or the characters’ writing. It obviously makes sense that there’s people with that mindset in that time period. Doesn’t mean you can’t comment on it being fucked up.

Fernando Perez

crazy how this mf just casually snatched his ribs lmfaooo

Kurumi

I don't understand why that bro tried killing her like that like what bro

Novafan

I could see next episode being mostly the fight with Giant Boy, and ending with the start of teh fight on the beach.

NecDW4

Red-haired Asaemon, Genji, her father, and basically all of society was saying the same thing lol. I guess that doesn't say anything about most people believing it. Only reason glasses dude hasn't said anything is because he has had like, 2 minutes of screentime and Gabimaru isn't normal.

Oh, That's Wild

Ya'll gatta remember this is like the Edo period, dude that got his house cut down was probably royalty of something high up the ladder

Luffy_77

how you let a nigga that big sneak up behind u like you aint hear him or see his big ass shadow creeping up

Travis

I mean, I hate to defend Genji, but it should be more attributed to the time period than he specifically. It was a very common belief at the time, regardless of how immoral we see it now.

Oh, That's Wild

But that is legit how people used to think...

m m

Another real question is why TF wasn't the person who caught him assigned to guard him??? 😭

Erica Collins

I can't wait once Sagiri gets a grip on her determination. She has always been one of my favorite characters in the manga/show. She turns up. Her mental strength stat raises once that happens.

Uly A O

I'd actually like to hear Sheera's perspective more in situations like these. Women in anime aren't always plot devices for the main characters or just 'plot'.

DevilMayCarter

If I'm not wrong, Sanka said the villagers died because he brought the samurai there. She said that she can help lead them down the mountain but the samurai lied and said let us rest in your village first. Then the samurai killed the villagers

Jalen Holmes

Yea why the hell that big guy get allowed in for this pardon program wtf

Desert Penguin

Zoomers when they find out People 1000 years ago didnt think the way they do now. O.O

NecDW4

I'm really under the impression he's there by choice cause if he can get the elixir then he would be an unkillable monster that lives forever

Devin B

The thing is, not every dude in the show acts like that. Gabimaru and the glasses dude never said anything about women. Even the one Asaemon who we saw dead on the ship only talked about her individual weakness, not her weakness as a woman. So Im not sure I buy the “that’s just what everyone believed back then” argument.

Fernando Perez

It is fucked up but im pretty sure in that time period thats all those dudes knew. Women stay home and have kids, while the men go and fight.

Art of Trolling

Genji Tate got swipe left

AzureSiegfried

He’s a legend

AzureSiegfried

Now that I think about it you right who tf caught this nigga lmao

Kingmakaii

The real question is, who in the HELL was able to capture that big ass nigga in the first place

Mari

Bro wtf this big ass nigga running around the island killing everybody they should not of let that nigga out his cell 😭

Kingmakaii

@Yungin 2Cold I was just saying what I’ve been hearing from other people. I just assumed he had worked on CSM. Didn’t mean to imply he didn’t come up with the designs himself. I assumed that he had just worked on designs for both series. My b.

Fernando Perez

Venti Pinkity Drinkity

Fallen.1

Most of these Asaemon are really on some Fresh and Fit time

Devin B

Gabimaru meant she was stronger mentally. Hollow man could still easily gut her if he wanted. Also anybody from the Yamada clan could technically behead Gabimaru the problem is just being able to land a hit on him if he doesn't want to get hit.

Mad4Life

Giant at the end came in like a Zangief drive rush. Also, it's nice to see anime trying to get away from 'women do women things only' (Maki comes to mind in JJK...and Fire Force for that matter).

DevilMayCarter

That has nothing to do with anything...He worked on fire punch Which has 0 monsters) Soo its all original from Yuji Kaku himself. Him being an assistant means nothing.

Yungin 2Cold

I think that's the point though because the disgusting monsters are a hard contrast to the beautiful scenery of the island, hence Hell's Paradise.

Devin B

You know when Sheera isnt making constant sexual jokes she's actually pretty funny. Had me dying with the kitchen jokes 💀

Mad4Life

Nurugai didnt set them up on purpose, it lshows in the flashback that he just trusted the wrong people

Guav

Rokurota may be a cannibal, but even he draws the line at misogyny.

Fernando Perez

Makes sense. The mangaka was an assistant to CSM’s mangaka.

Fernando Perez

He wanted a rack of ribs, so he took some; but Genji that’s what you get for being a misogynist

Miguel Angel Ramirez-Alvarez

Big man said I ordered the RIBS bitch 😂😂😂

Nick Vaughn

I think he meant stronger mentally not physically because he said he couldn’t figure out why he felt that way giving the fact he’s not used to dealing with emotion

Patrone07

How tf did y’all react in slow motion to the ending?! 😂🤣 bruh

Lamaree Jackson

Goated VA

Anthony Argueta

these are some of the weakest guys with character designs ive ever seen💀💀 the only one I have hope in is the white haired guy with the two scars on his eyes 😂

Trey

been meaning to ask this Roshi, what's that red drink you always got from Starbucks. Looks fire

Coping McCoperson

yea it’s yusuke kobayashi, the same VA as subaru and senku

sempiternal

the CEO of Women's Rights strikes again

the bard

Now she needs to stand over his body and be like “Get up and fight Genji; like a man, get off the ground, that’s not how a samurai lives!”

Marcus Lyles

GOAT TENZA HAS ARRIVED

Guav

Nurugai never claimed to be a boy, and isn't really pretending to be one! Everyone just assumed she was a boy because her appearance is quite "androgynous". She wears "scrappy" clothes and doesn't really look "feminine" to Japanese Standards. She's a really fun character though, along with her Asaemon. I think next week we get one of my favorite characters? Unsure with the pacing of the anime.

Ashes2Ash

The mystery of the island will start unfolding from now which will be so good

Nazmus Safwat

Gantetsusai wasn’t put on death row for destroying the sign. It was for killing the people who tried to arrest him doing it

MWS

both sexists got 1shotted

Slussh

nah that blonde samurai sound just like subaru i bet its his VA id know that whiny yell anywhere

Kyle

imagine talking all that ish to get ur sword taken from you. LOL

Slussh

bro hells paradise monster designs is so disgusting

Slussh


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