Dattebayo Ship - 199/200

Naruto was perfectly fine with the thought killing orochimaru lol

kidCash3

But it has to start with Sasuke. Asking the affected to forgive him while he's still out there potentially doing more wrong? The wrongdoer has to stop the wrongdoings or else there will just be more victims. Naruto was in denial by the type of person Sasuke was becoming, even he was unsure at this point if he could bring Sasuke back. If Sasuke couldn't be convinced to stop or be forcibly stopped, what would be the solution?

soa

Where Naruto failed was to give a counter proposition. He can't just ask someone to let a mass murderer go "because he's my friend". Perhaps "killing" him was not the answer, but actions need consequences. Confinement, lose his eyes, etc, idk. You don't end a war by just asking them to stop, you have to come to an agreement. Plus it's not like Sasuke himself is also gonna stop just cause Naruto says so. Naruto has to get Sasuke to stop first before he can ask others to.

soa

i love you guys, ur the best and i hope the best in your marriage. im a lurker. took me a while to star ur naruto reaction because i watched it ongoing with my twin and did not feel like i needed to rewatch it again. Liked you 2 a lot i decided to start from the start with u 2. Thanks for giving me more great memorize. Back to lurk mode.

Eddie or Redd

"Ramble ramble because he covers it up like Kakashi" Ron Im so proud of you bro. You started anime confused af now you know what's up. Respect

Mason

Nagato also had "multiple opportunities to stop and was talked to and yet he still chose wrong so many times". I mean he literally killed Jiraiya and more than half of the leaf village. Nagato is arguably way worse than Sasuke is.

Noctislolig

@Daniel The show is actively portraying a message, so having conversations about it kinda' is part of watching the show intently.

Noctislolig

@Gggg Hhhh No, the cycle began much much earlier. The massacre of the Uchiha is one prior step in the cycle, which you seem to have forgotten but in general it goes way back. I can't completely go into detail though because it would spoil stuff that the two of them haven't seen yet.

Noctislolig

Fun fact ron sasuke has killed only itachi up untill this point

Gggg Hhhh

What cycle, sasuke took their master/boss/big bro so thryre here to settle matters sasuke did start it thats why they are there naruto wont sell him out and they want info so they beat it out of him..unsucesfully sure they got the info so they leave to catch their master whereever hell be..hideout b a or c.. the cycle begin by sasuke killin their boss and continues by them killin sasuke and then them being killed by naruto or sakura...kakashi etc

im the poll waiter im what they call pollarity

Bro said my era has finally come why he so real for that🤣🤣

Gggg Hhhh

I like that part of someone burdening themselves with the forgiving and stopping the cycle but he was able to talk to nagato and reason with him, sasuke has multiple opportunities to stop and was talked to and yet he still chose wrong so many times! I more think about how Naruto continues to follow sasuke around no matter who it will hurt and that’s the wrong part.

Diego Hill

Dude, just watch the show. Relax, It's not that serious.

Daniel

So I think he would avenge Sasuke and here is why. 1. Sasuke was equally important to him as Jiraiya and that's an important piece of information to look at once you consider the whole. Also keep in mind that Naruto himself even stated he couldn't stop hating Nagato and could BARELY stand before him without killing him. The ideology that Nagato preached also weighed heavily on Naruto at the time leading right up to before that so Naruto would have been feeling more sentimental and thus more reasonable. He wanted to live up to his master and prove the man in front of him wrong and thus his master right. This feeling would not be present during the Raikage encounter. And even with that sensation of peace Jiraiya's memory gives, look how LONG it took Naruto to calm down. 2. Sasuke is the source of nearly every ounce of anxiety Naruto has. There are many more feelings that are negative inside of him towards Sasuke than Jiraiya. Jiraiya was a sense of peace and of calm for him, whereas Sasuke is a source of conflict and internal strife. The turmoil around Sasuke ALWAYS makes Naruto SIGNIFICANTLY more angry than anyone else does. Thus he did not fox out Jiraiya's death or immediately fox out when he found out Kakashi died during the pain attack. Whereas just the mention of Sasuke's name is enough to drag out extra tails from Naruto during an encounter with Orochimaru. The anger levels are not comparable in any capacity. 3. Naruto says himself specifically that I don't wants US killing EACHOTHER for vengeance anymore. Including himself in the equation, meaning he knows that he wouldn't be able to hold back his anger. And he also knows that he would have to fight to make sure the others who went after the Raikage or the Cloud wouldn't be killed. He would have to fight one way or another so either way you take this he's going to war over Sasuke in one capacity or another. 4. As I started writing reason number four I remembered it was a spoiler so I will be refraining from writing reason number 4. 5. I touched on this briefly but it is also not just Sasuke he'd be avenging. Naruto is well aware it would result in war. Naruto is also a ninja who understands that sometimes killing is a necessary part of life. AND HE DOESNT WANT TO KILL. That doesn't mean he won't. He will always hold back on opponents if he can but there are times he hasn't which have all been when the opponent was threatening the lives of his loved ones, which, as we mentioned, would still go to war either to stop the Cloud from getting the Sharingan (ESPECIALLY IF DANZO IS THE HOKAGE) or to avenge Sasuke (Kakashi, Sakura, Sai likely for Naruto's sake.) The resulting war would likely result in the deaths of ALL OF HIS LOVED ONES. This means Naruto who now has the mind to think about these things is considering the long-term effects and realizes it could result in everyone dying. So if he did take out the Raikage in revenge, he likely would go off the deep-end and not stop at the Raikage. But that's just my personal belief on the matter. So the second half of number five can be ignored as opinion.

Saint Andrew

I mean Danzo wasnt exactly against the Uchiha, he was against them because they were planning to overtake the Village thats why he wanted them dead. Sure Danzu is still an Asshole but he wasnt just being racist or smth xD

Vincent Baierl

Well niggas in this world don’t get locked up in prison usually lol so what other option are you to deal with mass murdering criminals

kidCash3

Im honestly sad that people don’t understand the point of the show.it’s says a lot about what people think of our world,I get it that Naruto sound and behaves kind of childish and naive.but if you were in his shoes how would you try to stop the cycle of hatred ?i can’t think of options myself it’s unbelievable difficult some say not possible. but let’s say it is possible, and you're trying to do that without fighting.what other way are you left but to just try to talk to someone and convince them,that the hatred just not worth,it not for them not for their beloved people and not for humanity. I guess that’s way there are still wars and hatred no one wants to listen to no one. everyone wants to behave on their best interests,when youthink about its kind of silly people should hear each other and get to an agreement of peace and love sound cringe I know buts we have to do that forget about the past and move on. And by how it converts in Naruto,in that arc is sasuke I know that if he isn’t willing to change there will still battles,with him but what other way instead of talking can you do… another thing I want to add is that I live in Israel and we are currently at war with basically all our neighbor countries the cycle of hatred between our country and others has been going on since the Bible and let me tell you nothing has changed otherwise things have got worse because of technology it’s sad for me to that innocent people die from this shit if both countries would make an agreement of truth and accept each other loses and pains we could stop the wars today!!!!!

Yalir bokro

This makes no sense at all lol You're saying that revenge equals justice. This completely goes against everything established during the Pain arc. Following your logic Naruto should have killed Nagato. Following that logic further, Konan would then have the right to kill Naruto, which would then give Sakura, Kakashi, Shikamaru, and all of the others the right to kill Konan. Also following your logic, after the hidden cloud kills Sasuke, Naruto should then be entitled to exact revenge on them and so on. In essence Naruto is asking the Raikage the same thing he asked Shikaku. They wanted to deal with Nagato in the same way the Raikage wants to deal with Sasuke but Naruto convinced Shikaku to leave Nagato to him. Now he is essentially trying to do the same thing here.

Noctislolig

Wow, you summed it up beautifully. Personally I really like these episodes (except for the upcoming Sakura thing lol) because it feels like a clean continuation of the ideologies established during the Pain arc. It really demonstrates how complex this topic is and how easy it is to confuse revenge with justice. There is one thing I would like to ask you though: Do you really think Naruto would avenge Sasuke? I think by sparing Nagato he proved that he is capable of renounce revenge, which would make me beliefe that he would also spare the hidden cloud should they kill Sasuke.

Noctislolig

Yeah. I like Sakura but she definitely has some really bad moments lol

Noctislolig

Out of curiosity: What do you think about Naruto sparing Nagato? Because in essence Nagato and Sasuke are the same. Both of them are trapped in the cycle of revenge, which makes Naruto and the Raikage the same. Naruto however broke this cycle by sparing Nagato. Now he is asking the Raikage to do the same for Sasuke. His argument isn't about Sasuke specifically, it's about revenge in general.

Noctislolig

He sees Sasuke as another Nagato. Someone who is lost in the cycle of revenge. He spared Nagato, thus breaking this cycle. Now he is asking other people to do the same. Naruto's argument isn't specific to Sasuke, it's about revenge in general.

Noctislolig

There is so much to look forward to before that imo.

Noctislolig

I see a lot of people apparently don't really understand why Naruto is trying to stop people from killing Sasuke so I'm going to try to elaborate on it a little: Much of what Naruto is saying is not specific to Sasuke but to revenge in general. He is saying that Sasuke is wrongfully acting on revenge for his clan. Thus he made himself enemies (the cloud village for example) who pursue him also out of revenge. Should they be able to kill Sasuke, some people from Konoha might try to exact revenge for Sasuke. Even if not them, then the remaining team Taka will. The girl from hidden cloud wrongfully said that Sasuke started it, which isn't true. This cycle started a long time ago. What Naruto is saying is that someone has to stop this cycle. What the hidden cloud and basically the entire rest of the shinobi world is trying to do by killing Sasuke is basically the same as Naruto killing Nagato. But Naruto didn't. He took a step to break the cycle. Now he is asking others to do the same.

Noctislolig

Naruto is asking them to do the same thing he did with Nagato. He could have gotten revenge by killing him, but he chose to break the cycle. Now he wants them to do the same. It's not specifically about Sasuke, it's about revenge in general. By exacting revenge on Sasuke they are no different than Sasuke, since he is also just acting out of revenge.

Noctislolig

I disagree. Much of what Naruto is saying is not specific to Sasuke but to revenge in general. He is saying that Sasuke is wrongfully acting on revenge. Thus he made himself enemies (the cloud village for example) who pursue him also out of revenge. Should they be able to kill Sasuke, some people from Konoha might try to exact revenge for Sasuke. Even if not them, then the remaining team Taka will. What Naruto is saying is that someone has to stop this cycle. What the hidden cloud and basically the entire rest of the shinobi world is trying to do by killing Sasuke is basically the same as Naruto killing Nagato. But Naruto didn't. He took a step to break the cycle. Now he is asking others to do the same.

Noctislolig

No Naruto for today? :(

Ken Villanueva

Can we get another ep it’s been 5 days 😂 that’s like 16 percent of the member ship 😭

Aj

Yeah at this point in the story I no longer cared about Naruto and Sakuras feelings on Sasuke. The level of simp isn't likeable. Even though as a character, Sasuke is fine it's just upsetting to have him be all of the other twos entire personality and drive.

Anthony Cano

Naruto definitely living up to "I never go back on my word", "Give up on trying to make me give up", and "If being smarter means what you say it does, I’ll remain a fool my entire life."

Nuwudles

you're 100% right. I think Ron was putting him self in the the raikage's position because Ron also has a brother. But he didn't fully take this cycle of hatred in consideration but understand the idea behind it

pookie

Well then you must rewatch Naruto again 👋

Nick Obeso

By Naruto’s logic we should just save all the akatsuki and forgive all of them at this point I’m sure they have random friends from their past that don’t want them killed lol can’t have it both ways

kidCash3

Ron is right bro yall gotta stop tryna justify naruto saving sasuke Naruto can do what he wants and try but I always thought similar to what Ron was saying

kidCash3

No it literally never made any sense why would the leaf attack the cloud over if they killed sasuke he’s a rogue ninja literally no one in the leaf would give af if sasuke died at this point except naruto and sakura the leaf would not retaliate it was always a retarded argument by Naruto. A selfish request and stupid by Naruto but that’s him

kidCash3

Watch More Naruto ! i have seen all Episodes but yours reactions are best :)! Just wait, best figths are just coming ! Sorry My english im from Finland 😅

markus laikkoja

Sasuke is literally the character of revenge. Naruto showed nagato that the pain he gave to Naruto stacked with Naruto’s original pain, will not change his route. He has to be the child of prophecy from the books. No matter what you go through, revenge is never a solution

Nick Obeso

Ron, you missed the whole point of Sasuke lol. Yes it’s quite stupid he wants to save a ex-comrade who went rogue and “eliminated” some people from different villages, but what will killing Sasuke do? What will the leave village do and all that Naruto has done to try and save Sasuke, be for? They’d most likely attack the clouds.. This is the cycle of hatred that created pain. That was the literal main point of the pain arc. To show that this ninja world has a cycle of hatred and revenge that does no good but war.

Nick Obeso

The hyuga incident was when Nejis dad was sacrificed in place of his brother. Which preventing the cloud and lead from going to war with leaf

Alphonso Burnett

Yeah because he doesn’t see Sasuke the way you see. For him Sasuke is his best friend and the one he developed a strong bond the first time in his life. Someone he considered a rival and a member of his team. Someone who jumped im front of him to his death to save him. Yess Sasuke at some point gave the impression he can’t be save and don’t want to be but Naruto don’t do all of that because Sasuke want to. He do that because he want his friends back and because he knows Sasuke need to be save even tho he is persuaded that he don’t need to or can’t be.

Sam Al

I personally enjoyed them. The Summit, Naruto's speech to Ay, Sai's switch, Danzo's eye reveal. Like these moments solidify characters and build up the moment. If we got the Pain battle and the Summit's result back to back, we wouldn't be as hype because of the lack of context. And to hear from Tobi that he has beef with Danzo.. That just answers Ron's theory about Madara's identity. I understand your hype towards the next episodes, don't get me wrong.

RobyKageTV

At this point the Dance is what to look forward to next 😎😎😎

Oscar Diaz

Everything he did was wrong and Evil. But he actually wanted what was best for the village, or what he believed to be best. But this is actually no different from a lot of dictators we deem evil in the real world. A lot of them will actually do what they honestly believe to be right. But they cause a lot of fucked up shit. Danzo deserves all the hate for sure

Gjermund Norum Bugge

Off course Naruto is being very unreasonable in the way he asks, and it was probably never going to work. But he is still making an impression on people, and it might not be that useless. He has to try something

Gjermund Norum Bugge

Sasuke embodies the whole idea of revenge and the cycle of hatred continuing. The whole point is that if they kill Sasuke now, the cycle of revenge will never stop. Naruto is understanding this after the encounter with pain. They have to make the unreasonable decision to not kill for revenge to make the cycle of hatred and war stop. This is the whole point of Sasuke in the entire story as it relates to pain

Gjermund Norum Bugge

It's crazy Ron missed the entire point of the Pain saga. Thinking Sasuke is a necessary sacrifice to give the Hidden Cloud means you do not understand the cycle of hatred at all. One village killing another out of retribution is what literally led to the creation of Pain, the guy who was going to send the world into a cycle of mutually assured destruction and cold wars. To say the Hidden Cloud should kill Sasuke, is to say the cycle of hatred should continue. The point is there is no such thing as the "last sacrifice". That death/pain will cause the other side to retaliate thus continuing the cycle of hatred.

MrCarter22

For himself*, he is selfish, he is the cause of Uchiha slaughter and many more

BeautyWillSaveTheWorld

idk if it's bc sasuke is older but i also struggled with seeing naruto wanting to save sasuke and try to get him on a better path... even though i cheered when gaara, who has done much worse, got redeemed. we also just saw naruto convince freaking pain to believe in another path for peace lol so it's def possible to change sasuke... idk it's just something about sasuke that makes me say "dude stop caring so much"

Jay rellim

only bc he failed at killing the others, not bc of his lack of trying haha

Jay rellim

I’m so glad that Ron doesn’t sympathize with idiocy of saving sasuke but sometimes we need to shut our brain off and allow the show to guide us to decide which way we are supposed to see the next saga.

Diego Hill

Awww the way ron gave michelle the last sip of the iced tea was so cute HAHAHAH

shouvik das

Cap 🧢 sasuke is dangerous and deserving of everything he gets🔥

Gus

Sasuke literally tried to kill Naruto? Like he tried to kill Orochimaru, Deidara, Itachi, Danzo? That is called trying! Gaara didn't do any good before but we watched him killing young shinobis for FUN yet he is the Kazekage everyone love him where is the judgement? What Sasuke did so wrong? It is not like Gaara intentionally crushing kids for fun or Itachi murdering Uchiha children. Sasuke's family hunted down by Leaf HQ he is hunting down Danzo why not? If someone murdered my parents then judges forgive him i'll shoot him and the judges at the court. You people are funny. Me and my buddy Naruto we are not.

js ls

Your one gripe with Naruto’s character is what defines him as a character? Lmfao. Without his feelings about Sasuke and the entire theme of the series (including everything that has yet to be revealed so no spoilers) there literally wouldn’t be a story without this aspect of Naruto’s character. Makes me curious if you even watched the whole series?

Chronicalbert

Literally nobody said it was reasonable lmao it’s just a fact. That is the reason why. Because he stubbornly doesn’t go back on his word. No need for justification, it’s just a fact. Feel however you want about it lol

Chronicalbert

I completely understand. He wants to end the circle of hate/vengeance and save his friend Sasuke but what he asking of the Raikage and the way went about just felt extremely self-centered and “overly righteous”. I just feel like Naruto always wants things to go his way and that behavior doesn’t often have any real consequence towards the narrative unless he achieves what he was whining about. I understand Naruto’s character… I just don’t like it (Sometimes).

KoKo JoJo

she understands probably 60-70% of korean, and can read prob 80%.. but can only speak like 25% lol she used to as a kid (ages 5-12) but stopped.

Michelle Lam

🫡

Michelle Lam

these are great points. youre not wrong. I still just have a gripe with how he goes about things lol but it would be a boring show if everything was exactly how we all would handle it.

Michelle Lam

this could be true

Michelle Lam

You can also try to talk to the raikage or negotiate differently than just begging and crying to spare sasuke

Ronahi S.

ok but only because he acknowledged him first, that makes everythign he does after ok? He literally tries to kill naruto. Just because he once was nice to naruto does not excuse everything he does afterwards. I understand Naruto but he is being a little bit too emotional and it is kind of weird how they accept every bad thing sasuke does.

Ronahi S.

With naruto only a bit. When sakura talks about sasuke, its annoying and undeserved tho.

Devin e

I mean so far sasuke has only killed villains

Gyt

Tell me you didn't understand Naruto without telling me you didn't understand Naruto

BeautyWillSaveTheWorld

“So much to unpack in these episodes” oh just wait

Darren Metts

Naruto is such a clown, sometimes ngl.

KoKo JoJo

It became a trope after naruto lil bro… 🤦‍♂️

Giorno Giovanna

Damn Ron’s takes on naruto as a character kinda get worse each time ngl u missed the whole point of the last arc 😭😭 but I respect ur opinion ig …

Giorno Giovanna

It's wild that even other countries know the shadiness of Danzo. The side eye that the Raikage gave him...

NS

I couldn't tell if you guys missed it or not because you didn't react, but Chojuro (the kid with the Mizukage) is another member of the 7 Swordsman of the Mist

NS

Watch the filler episodes that you skip to get information on how danzo became hokage and there’s a website that tells you the filler episodes to watch it’s not in the one u use

Khid Kilo

About to get to the point where the majority of Sakura haters get the most fuel for their fire

Spartnfish

Easy way to remember the Raikage, at least for me, was Raiden from Mortal Kombat used lightning and they share the root of "Rai". I'm sure someone can explain it better, but kage means shadow so it's like lightning's shadow, fire's shadow, etc...

Jacob S

Naruto's request sounds ridiculous from Raikage's perspective. But you have to acknowledge the fact that Naruto is like that because of so many loved ones he lost, his heart was influenced by Pain. He is still a child so his request sounded like he expected it would be easy for everyone to forgive just because he forgives. But not everyone has a heart like he does, Raikage never experienced his views being shifted that much. I think it makes perfect sense for Naruto's character to go in that direction and to never go back on his word, to always try to find good in people, despite them literally burning in hell and that is a rare trait and not that easy to understand. I think not one of us would do for someone what Naruto does for Sasuke or other his friends, none of us would go to that length of wanting to protect someone who isn't worth protecting. But protecting someone who is worth protecting isn't that difficult right? Naruto loves even ones who are almost impossible to love because he sees good in them. So don't say that he is selfish. He may be from our point of view, but maybe he is right and we are wrong because we always want to resolve something and to seek revenge. He sees something we don't and that is his biggest quality; to see good in everyone

BeautyWillSaveTheWorld

kind of crazy that people in the comments don't seem to understand that this is a common trope in anime - nobody's bad/wrong/evil, nobody's right/good/honorable, everybody's flawed an everybody is justified, the idea is you're supposed to sympathize with EVERYONE to some level

Dale Diaz

DATTEBAYOOOOO

jeff

none taken. I didn't tell them danzo's identity. it's just made very apparent that he's not an uchiha?

Dale Diaz

They will talk about it in time. They never did something (wrong or not) without explanation. I get that you want to know, just show a little patience until they come back. From what I get, I think they are posting themselves. They scheduled pretty well until the honeymoon. Maybe the honeymoon wasn’t planned but offered to them by family ? (I’m not sure and that why I recommend you to wait for them) Either way, life happens, we can’t act like they owe us their entire life for a few bucks a month

ao kaze

Nope the cloud were wrong too

Kayso

You guys should watch some of the Naruto movies that came out, please, some are really good. Some of them are already spoiler free considering where you are at in the story.

Nessa.

Everyone disregards Sasuke's journey, it's crazy every time. He made sacrifices, acknowledged Naruto first, claimed Naruto as his friend first .... He is only looked at as a selfish brat.

C Nichole

Michelle says 'One ring to rule them all' but she's got like 3 on her face LOL.

Shiyao

Then you would also be on the side of the leaf since the cloud did the same but worse years previously correct?

C Nichole

LITERALLY MISSING THE ENTIRE POINT smh

C Nichole

I don't understand the hate on Danzo. Everything he did was for the leaf. The Uchiha would had gotten annihilated anyways

Rene Salgado

Agreed

Saith Uchiha

the sasuke dick ride is the worst part of this show, makes absolutely no sense from start to end

Ray

I watched an episode where Sasuke sacrificed himself to save Naruto. I guess I am the only one who watched that episode here.

js ls

How can everyone forget the Haku and Zabuza arc? It is the first arc of Naruto where Sasuke saves Naruto by sacrificing himself.

js ls

Yeah fk Sasuke who saved Naruto's ass by sacrificing himself. If Haku's attack was fatal that would have been Sasuke's death to save Naruto. But who cares right?

js ls

I mean Sasuke had even tried to save Naruto by sacrificing himself if that doesn't make me bow for my friend I don't know what will.

js ls

probably not to fuck with the schedule.. you aren’t entitled to anything bro when someone is getting married obviously you can expect at least some delay in order to line the upload schedule back up. even though theyre episodes recorded in advance they cant just ignore the episodes that weren’t able to be recorded and uploaded. this is probably the earliest these could be uploaded in regards to the schedule being moved around those days where they couldn’t record

dte

More than you go for your parents xD

js ls

The dialogue between the 5 Kage is so dope and very informative. That moment when everyone got up prepared to fight right when the Raikage broke the table, lol that was fire. Tensions running high. I'm on the Raikage's side with this one especially looking from his point of view and what Ron said about Sasuke I agree 100%

Kayso

If Naruto gives up his word, I am giving up being Naruto's fan.

js ls

Naruto's Loyalty to Sasuke is not surprising at all. Sasuke had make decision that will sacrifice himself to save Naruto long time ago, seems like everyone forgot but me and my buddy Naruto haven't forget that.

js ls

imagine, then naruto becomes the villan of the story

Jonas Teigen

Yeah ron I see what you mean❤️,but bro you got to understand that Naruto went through the same thing as the raikage that a beloved one for them died. with that Naruto chose not to kill nagato and not seek revenge, he wants to end the cycle of hatred and thus he wants to convince the raikage to do the same. He is trying all by himself to end the hatred. And in my opinion the whole idea of the one last “ sacrifice” Doesn’t make sense because killing someone only leads to killing someone else thus the cycle of hatred will never end. And i don’t feel like that the whole last punch story with your brother makes sense of Because if neither of you could be the one that’s said and do “ I lost” you “win” I’m not going to punch anymore I’m going to be the bigger person. and say to each either okay you can have the last punch. Then I think to do that the way Naruto does that is way harder cuz to seek revenge after someone’s death is way more painful then to end a brothers fight. I’m not here to judge I really love your whole perspective about the show.❤️❤️❤️

Yalir bokro

Can’t argue with facts

Keanu

Calm might not be the right word haha

Keanu

He got outplayed my guy. Simple as that.

Elessar

What’s that

Keanu

Fr get over it … they are not obligated to anything. I didn’t see any of you complains in the comment when they kindly drop triple episodes or more.. again they weren’t obligated to do so… Subscribing was your choice. And they did not lie to us saying they will absolutely drop 4 episodes a week. At this point I’m starting to think that most of you complaining non stop since two weeks are paying just to troll.. if not, please grow up

ao kaze

Ong ron cuz Sasuke should be the sacrifice is the logical response to it 😭😭

juan 🧌

fax well explained

noyaraised

I believe so

C Nichole

AGREED.

C Nichole

This has definitely been explained but I'll go ahead and explain it again as well just to be sure. The first part is explaining Danzo and the Uchiha clan. The second is Naruto's actions. AS ALWAYS my comment is SPOILER FREE and only makes statements based on information we've already seen in the series at this point. Eyes in Naruto are spoils of war. Being able to steal a Sharingan for your village is a phenomenal achievement. That's why so few people genuinely have managed to do it. Remember the cloud risked starting war to get the Byakugan. If you have the opportunity to steal an eyeball you steal that shit. Danzo is not a member of the Uchiha clan and has definitely stolen that eye from someone. Perhaps he acquired it by chance or was gifted it but who knows (I mean we do but spoilers). And as far as Naruto goes. He genuinely cares for the cloud and leaf and all of their people. He genuinely from the bottom of his heart cares about every living person on the planet. He wants to find Peace from the bottom of his heart and the reason he cried was not just because of Sasuke. Naruto is strong now. VERY strong. The strongest in the entire Hidden Leaf. They even went as far as to say he's stronger than Sasuke was when he fought Killer Bee. Naruto knows very well how he feels about Sasuke and he knows he wouldn't be able to just stand by and that it would start war. He knows he would be putting cloud ninjas into the ground. But he ALSO knows that he's not invincible and can't destroy the entire hidden cloud alone and would eventually die for his revenge. Plus he could lose control of the nine tails as well. Naruto knows that if he dies Hinata, Sakura, Kakashi, Iruka, Lee, Neji, Tsunade if her old ass wakes back up. They'll all go fight to avenge him. And then they all die. Then the Hyuga clan, Sakura's Family and Ino, Kakashi's friends in the anbu, Guy sensei, Tenten all of them will then go off and fight for revenge. It's a vicious cycle that spreads like a cancer and Naruto understands this perfectly at this point. And at that point if would be a full scale war. Not only that but Gaara wouldn't stand still either and he would get dragged into it. Now the sand is at war. The stone would see the weakened nations and seize that opportunity to invade. The mist would either mimic the stone or join in to stop the bloodshed but they would somehow get involved as well. Now you have yet another Great Ninja War and the Akatsuki will be free to just reap the benefits of all of the in-fighting. A lot of people hate these episodes, and even I am not very fond of them but I do very much understand why Naruto is doing what he's doing here and why he's so deeply hurt by everything. Plus the guilt of knowing if he can't stop the hatred he failed both Nagato and Jiraiya.

Saint Andrew

And let’s NOT do this and delete this comment

londonrials

I hope you’re joking. If not we don’t need people like you in this nice community. THEY WERE GETTING MARRIED. Yes this is their job but regardless you’re not going to work on your honeymoon so why expect them to? Not only that but they posted PLENTY of announcements ahead of time. Just because you’re cheap and your subscription is running out doesn’t mean they should work during their special trip. Let them do them. Be lucky that they even posted at all on this trip bc a lot of creators wouldn’t. You’re so ungrateful and are acting like a huge jerk!!!

londonrials

I don't understand why people are trying to take one side or the other. The anime isn't trying to show that what Naruto does is "okay," it's just trying to show how desperate he feels right now about everything that's going on. His village destroyed, his father being the previous Hokage, the promise he made to Pain, and on top of that, knowing that his friend is falling deeper and deeper into darkness and his life is in danger. The helplessness he feels is immense, and the desperation to find answers is even greater. People keep saying that it's cringe explaining their "logical" reasons when there aren't any, because that's not the intention. Naruto is not acting with his mind but with his feelings. And although he is risky, selfish and even naive, he somehow makes others think about their actions. In fact, I think Naruto manages to move the Raikage somewhat considering that little look he gives him before leaving. Nobody says that the Raikage has to listen to Naruto, what they are trying to highlight is the need to STOP all this violence. That's what Naruto tries. He tries to continue believing that there is hope and tries to continue showing others that there are other paths. Both sides are valid, of course, but Naruto is doing what he can as he slowly discovers reality and adapts to it. I don't think the idea is to judge him or be so logical. There is a psychological background to all this, it is not as simple as it is said in the comments above

Nati Sabio

I think I understand, I believe I read a comment from you and we think the same, If I am not wrong

Nati Sabio

If they killed Sasuke, Naruto would seek revenge. If they killed Naruto, his friends would seek revenge. If they killed them, their friends would seek revenge. People do be missing the entire point of the cycle of hatred.

Saint Andrew

no offense to you at all but its better if they go on not knowing danzos identity, its supposed to be mysterious to them, so I think you should delete this, if not, at least just say it doesn't automatically mean they are a uchiha instead of saying for sure they are not

Ian

@Lela Amboko Exactly, I think people are seeing everything too logically and too externally, when logic is not required at all in this situation. The point is not to agree with Naruto or criticize the Raikage for not listening to him, the point is to show Naruto's vulnerability in this moment trying to find answers to what is happening or what will happen in the future. The point is to show that what he wants to do is not simple at all, and this is an example of that, even alluding to what Pain mentioned. It's just Naruto falling into reality and facing it. It is not for us to become judges to analyze whether it is good or bad, because nothing is completely good or bad. They both have their perspective and neither is the "correct one", and that's the point. We understand both, but they are still polar opposites, difficult to reach a middle ground. That is the Mission that Naruto has to solve.

Nati Sabio

Gaara beats Deidara 9/10 times. Gaara was handicapped because had to protect his village.

DeepSeaClams

Naruto is like a girl who refuses to report her abusive boyfriend to the police because "she can change him".

Maks Lesniewski

I'd argue that it is impossible, especially considering the fact that we have boruto lol But regardless, that doesn't mean that you can't inspire people to try to walk in light of that goal. I just wouldn't beat myself up over falling short sometimes. Naruto is one person, and this goal is way bigger than him.

defnotdai

Check out the Power Arc though

JTsu

They were literally getting married g 😂 and also went on a honeymoon and they also announced they weren’t going to upload for 4 days last week

noyaraised

Gaara was literally a terrorist who killed many more ppl than Sasuke up to this point.....he is now Kazekage who most love and respect. Do not underestimate Naruto's power to change those around him.

C Nichole

I have in my mind who no doubt would win, if we are thinking the same guys👀.

Elessar

I'm saying bro. So is Samui.

Elessar

Idealistic but not impossible. Ppl are just not mature enough to do the work. Nagato literally did all the damage and killing he did and found away to believe in Naruto and put his pain aside. That is the theme here. You don't have to like it or agree, but the only way to stop that cycle is ppl being the bigger person and just stopping. Everyone can't get their revenge or it never ends....someone is going to have to put their pain aside for it to be successful

C Nichole

Yeah, they need to double up on the uploads.

Mateusz Kuklinski

I wish these episodes were last week cuz I wanted these episodes behind us already, these couple episodes are probably the most annoying and we had two weeks to marinate in them.

Scar

I don’t go back on my word, that’s my Ninja Way. I don’t care who stands in front of him, Naruto made a promise to Sakura, on top of what Sasuke means to him. That man stands on business. I’m reading comments about what should have been done or how cringeworthy it was for him to beg, but this is what happens when Masashi Kishimoto is locked in. Best story I’ve ever experienced. This show is an EXPERIENCE. It will never leave me no matter how long I live. I’m thankful for every moment, especially when it’s PEAK. Also Mifune is one of my favorite characters outside the Hidden Leaf. PEAKK.

Hessen Herz

Literally everyone misses the whole point with Sasuke.....lol I am waiting to see who understands and it never comes😭😂.

C Nichole

BeautyWillSaveTheWorld

My boi Dridara is cold🥶. Underrated af.

Elessar

he wasnt serious, it was a metaphor to explain the cycle of hate, to hopefully open up their eyes.

Chris pastore

I meannnn....Sasuke tried to kill his "loved ones", on several occasions.

defnotdai

You're right, for sure, but knowing all of these things is what makes it so frustrating from a viewer's perspective. Cause from the outside looking in, we know he's going about it the wrong way and doesn't have all the answers, but he's the mc, so we just gotta enjoy the ride of character development lol

defnotdai

I don't even think Kakashi would seek revenge over Sasuke tbh

defnotdai

Honestly, the audacity of Naruto to suggest that his friends would seek revenge if the Raikage were to kill Sasuke! Whose friends is he talking about? Sakura and maybe Kakashi? Did he really think that Konoha would be willing to go to war with the Hidden Cloud over Sasuke? Maybe they would but definitely not by choice. That scene is just too cringy... and his obsession with Sasuke is uncalled for .

Lilo

The secondhand embarrassment I get when Naruto is bowing and begging, it's still so hard to watch after so many times lol

Mary Fuller

How far would you go for a friend?

Jay Mack

But like Yamato said, the cloud village is just as bad for the whole Hyuga situation. Imagine sending ninja to another country to kidnap a baby 💀

BigSewy

imagine going to another country and attempting to capture someone who, to everyone else would look like murder.... thats pretty bad lmaoo

Gnar

so just fwiw, anyone who has a single sharingan and keeps it covered is not an uchiha. All uchiha that have sharingan have two. People who take a sharingan keep it covered because they can't turn them off. Also if you're part of the uchiha clan, your name IS uchiha. His name is not Danzo Uchiha

Dale Diaz

The loved one tried to kill you and want to destroy your village and is working together with your enemies. Ah yes loved one

FW

That's what I'm saying I hate when people care about their loved ones

Ed

I see what you mean defnotdai but I think it makes sense with where Naruto is right now. He wants to end the cycle of hatred but doesn't know how to yet. This is him fumbling his way through it. He can't find the right way to go about it so he leads with his feelings. He doesn't have the answer yet. He even cries in frustration cause he failed to find the correct words to say. But Jiraiya, Pain and his dad believe he will find the answer eventually and not give up until he does but in the meantime he will make mistakes along the away. Just my 2 cents.

Lela Amboko

When you started talking about Naruto's request looking selfish, I was like "That's what the Raikage said by walking past Naruto!" You were spot on: "We will do what we need to, you do you boo boo" - Raikage

CallmePadre7

Id like to point out that just the mention of the name Madara Uchiha calmed everyone down

Ace

facts xd

pookie

We need the next few eps asap

Ethan VanDerVeer

I mean up to this point Sasuke hasn't really done anything that bad besides kidnap (not killed) Killer Bee which Omoi and Karui are aware of and yeah, he joined the Akatsuki but he also saved a lot of people's time by killing 3 members already including Orochimaru

BigSewy

React to mash magic and muscles Is like harry potter Since you guys always have references

Gustavo Daniel

That was Neji’s father, he was the sacrificial lamb that the cloud ninjas killed

Phoenix

this x2

Arz.09

Talk no Jutsu is going strong still, Naruto is just learning to use his mastery.

Thamor

damn the raikage had no words for yamato's point lol

Jay rellim

i think they reacted to it but never finished? idk

Jay rellim

First of all, Sasuke's desperado theme gives me chills every time i hear it! So badass! I also want to say that if a brawl had gone on in that room when Raikage slammed his fist in the table...I wont say who I think would win because its kinda spoilery...but i think ud be shocked at the outcome and also how SHORT that fight would be :)

The CulturedGentleman

I feel like Ron doesnt care if Sasuke dies or not cause he hasn’t seen the growth and friendship they built including the filler ones and the domino effect of hatred and vengeance is dangerous but I understand the other villages as well.

Randall Woods Jr

I actually hate how obsessed Naruto is with Sasuke.

FW

Funny how Kankuro says Gaara doesn’t need bodyguards when he got folded by Deidara by himself

Vader

Yeah I absolutely hate his obsession with Sasuke

Vader

He hates her whole lineage

The CulturedGentleman

I also agree with Ron but dont underestimate the power of Talk no Jutsu dude. It can move mountains lol Honestly tho...Sasuke made his own bed and he definitely needs to lay in it

The CulturedGentleman

Exactly. When Hizashi died to protect Hiyashi

The CulturedGentleman

Naruto is trying to stop this cycle of hate, but he doesn’t know how to do it. Not even jiraiya and minato knew the answer. Of course Naruto is going to say and do the wrong things to the Raikage about not killing sasuke. Stopping the cycle of hate is literally an impossible task, there’s no answer.

Khalid Arzamendi

spot-on translation

The CulturedGentleman

Its the one gripe I have with Naruto's character. His inability to see Sasuke for what he is right here. He is a criminal. No two ways about it. He cant just go on like that. If Naruto had argued spare his life and bring him back to Leaf for life imprisonment that would have been better to stomach. But forgiveness just so. Too naive man

Jonny

You're right, but at the same time, in this situation it's not all about Naruto's feelings. So, if he wanted any chance at convincing the Raikage, he shouldn't have led with HIS feelings and relationship to Sasuke. idk, I just think his main concern shouldn't be what could happen to Sasuke, it should be how can we attempt to make this right. He didn't give the Raikage much to work with, did he? Bro said, Sasuke's my friend, we can't continue the cycle of hate and then pleaded on the ground.

defnotdai

Man these OSTS been hitting omg 🎧😫

Shaide

Thanks 💜

Lola Bunny

he's not going about it the best way though, but that's his character for you

defnotdai

Ron is finally feeling the effects of the Talk No Jutsu hahaha Also Ron is absolutely right. Such a long cycle of hate and fighting can't be just stopped right then and there. If it were possible, OUR world wouldn't be so filled with wars and racial conflicts. I personally think that each individual/group need to come to a point of realization in their own way that fighting/killing is not the answer for the cycle to stop.

Emil Yi

Agree!

Shaide

Oh wow so these recordings were done a while ago!!

Ameth

Ron, I'm with you about Sasuke and Naruto. Like I get what Naruto is trying to achieve, but's it's never that simple is it. In fact, it's kind of naive and idealistic. Like there's no way to approach Pain's goal that wouldn't be selfish for one side and justified for another. Sasuke being your friend means fuck all to the people he's made enemies. He keeps trying to protect him as if Sasuke needs or wants it.

defnotdai

wow Danzo really hated Tsunade!

Edoardo Sopracolle

Such a goated scene- I LOVE how Yamato just straight up says, we let you guys live.

Duncan Cofell

Personally I don’t hate nor like Danzo but can’t deny that he’s pretty strong

Shaide

Yea look at dark knight comment on top of the comments instead. It makes sense

XxGhost HunterxX

you can justify whatever you want , is not reasonable and makes zero sense

Adrian Fernández Castells

I have a few points. 1. How would you feel if the first bond, the first connection you've ever made after 12 years of hatred pointed towards you and a childhood filled with loneliness and despair, went rogue and was plunging himself further and further into the darkness by the day? It's not just a friendship, it's the representation of the first friend he's ever had and he's desperate not to lose that 2. There's a legitimate threat to sasuke's life here as far as Naruto's concerned. He doesn't know that sasuke has awakened his MS and he views the kage as the strongest people in the universe (which they're meant to be) so the idea of 5 of them all together attacking sasuke leads Naruto to believe that sasuke could be killed 3. The pressure has built up to an unbelievable level at this point, given Jiraiya's death, sasuke killing orichimaru, pain destroying the entire village that he loves so much, the interaction with itachi just before his death, finding out that sasuke had joined the akatsuki, and the fear of that cycle of hatred continuing which is literally the theme of the show.

Ryan Borthwick

Honestly, I'm with Ron. To convince anyone to do something as ridiculous as pardoning a terrorist would require Naruto to possess absolutely INSANE skills as a negotiator that he simply does not have.

Maks Lesniewski

Ngl we need another naruto ep tomorrow

Aj

Queremos todos los dias naruto shippuden 🙌🏻

Cheke DegEsc

Naruto is so dedicated to saving sasuke because he made a promise to do that, it’s really that simple. Naruto’s whole thing is “I keep my word” and he really means it for better or worse lmao

Chronicalbert

Btw, this opening has no spoilers at all, there's no even shots from the show, so you are fully safe to watch it and react to it. It's one one my favs :)

Vitali Morgun

I need Michelle to tell us her skin care secrets, haha.

stu

I CANNOT WAIT for next week’s reactions. Do some jaw stretches cuz they’ll be on the floor, be prepared

James Janak

The tsuchikage's VA is also the VA of the random dude that explained luffy what the dance powder is. I'm certain of it lol

Usher

I haven't watched the reaction yet, but you guys should react to the cycle of hatred English dub

Ace

Shit’s about to go down

GentleCrank

cant wait for the next few eps

nicosded

The Hygua incident that Yamato was talking about was the incident that lead to Neji’s dad being sacrificed

Nelson Hernandez

It's a localization, a translation of a phrase that makes better sense to locals than the original phrase. In Japanese, his nickname is "Ryotenbin no Onoki", which means "Onoki of both scales". The closest thing I've gotten to an official answer regarding what that means is that Onoki is a very cool and cynical leader who always weighs the pros and cons of a situation against each other before doing anything, to see what action he'd benefit more from.

Maks Lesniewski

Hope u continue this time of upload so that I can watch before I go to work 😂

JP Tejada

this

Peter Kravets

Can’t wait for you too see what happens in the next two episodes

Michael

Remember during Naruto vs Neji fight in Chuunin Exams, we found out how Hidden Cloud tried to kidnap young Hinata? It was a reference to that.

Tim

The problem with implanted Sharingan is always activated. If you remember the natural eyes colour for Sasuke and Itachi's eyes is black, and it changes only when they during the fight. Only the Uchicha clan as original Sharingan users can activate and deactivate the eyes. Those who possess transplanted Sharingan like Danzo or Kakashi cannot deactivate it by themselves, it's always enabled, and that's why they cover the eye to avoid chakra leakage.

Vitali Morgun

Any avatar uploads today?

Sasha

This camera quality is crazy, I can see every needlemark in Rons tattoos goddamn

Bst22

Kakashi is so mf famous Zabuza, Pain, Madara, and the Raikage all know his name. lol every ninja knows Kakashi.

Saith Uchiha

Ron could you answer this question for me? Does Michele speak perfect fluent Korean even though you’re both American? Sorry just curious.

Saith Uchiha

Right on time just got off work lol

Kayso

Early ahh upload

faney

I do want to point out Ron that the Tsuchikage is nickname is actually the fence sitter. Its not a translation error or anything like that

Austin Jones

Konan is my girl but the Mizukage is baddd

Saith Uchiha

W Ron and Michelle! Thanks for this hype and early upload! 🙌

Steadi

Bro got hit with a Mortal Kombat KO 😭😭😭

Jimmy

Try Kaguya sama love is war. U will love it

Нікіта Кравчик

W Early upload

Eysu

Yea I watch all 51 minutes and 36 seconds in 2 minutes lol soooo yea first!!!!!

WaB_ Bigvai

First!!!!

WaB_ Bigvai