Ken actually dreamed of Chi, maybe not in a romantic way, but he definitely is not indifferent to her. not to mention if I dreamt that I would decrypt is as romantic ;) hehehh
melangalade
2022-07-22 19:10:58 +0000 UTC
This gave me tears of joy 😭❤️
Nothing can beat "Kiss of Life"
SwimDeepFreya
2022-07-22 11:05:51 +0000 UTC
...I must have overlooked that, I'm sorry. 😞 Thank you for the clarification SAVER, and sorry for causing issues!
Joey245
2022-07-21 23:13:08 +0000 UTC
Oh yeah I remember that page😆
Also I never saw it as Ken was interested in the cousin in any romantic sense.
But Savaster I think that Stockholm syndrome is the wrong word for it. As it describe how a victim falls in love with her kidnapper. Because of the kidnapper isolate the victim. Which is nothing like the situation between Chihaya and Ken.
Didrik Svahn
2022-07-21 15:57:46 +0000 UTC
https://www.patreon.com/posts/apnea-girl-girl-43132994 Ah...seems like this scene has raised some renewed questions. However, pls note that the culture is fairly consistent in the East and neither Ken nor Eri would consider a romantic relationship to be appropriate here. And we don't really know if Chihaya's feelings are genuine...alternatively, she's in a phase like the Stockholm syndrome? :-)
savaster
2022-07-21 14:12:59 +0000 UTC
Yeah it would but that would take time for Ken to get to the surface. Time which is a luxury that Chihaya might not have currently
Didrik Svahn
2022-07-21 12:30:03 +0000 UTC
Given the circumstances, wouldn't the kiss of life potentially be more useful on the surface?
Nathan Sample
2022-07-21 11:31:45 +0000 UTC
Fair enough. I guess sometimes I forget that it's a different culture. Apologies for getting heated yesterday!
Joey245
2022-07-21 11:12:23 +0000 UTC
You're not wrong, and I do agree with you, but the East is VERY different about this kind of thing than we are, both eastern women and men. We don't want to chase the guy off when he's doing something that, in his culture, is normal.
Red Fox
2022-07-21 04:45:38 +0000 UTC
I didn’t say that you where a jerk in that comment. Just that those guys who did complain about breath holding was
Didrik Svahn
2022-07-20 20:32:12 +0000 UTC
Great, so I'm the jerk for saying I feel deeply uncomfortable with the idea of a 17-year-old girl falling in love with a 21-year-old blank slate, and for said adult to return their affections despite moral and legal sensibilities. Fine, fine, I see how it is.
I'm not trying to be critical of Saver - I like the artwork, and tbh I don't care about realism. It's a story, I get it. But if this is the response I'm getting to me saying "I don't like this one thing" then I guess I should just keep my mouth shut.
Joey245
2022-07-20 20:15:43 +0000 UTC
Yeah remember when some jerks did complain about the too “unrealistically” breath hold time. At the beginning of this series. Which lead Saver to remove all breath hold timers from her main story. That was such a big tragedy
Didrik Svahn
2022-07-20 19:40:22 +0000 UTC
agreed, the promise wasn't a 100% realistic story. and artists can be very sensitive, so please, don't go too harsh on saver
melangalade
2022-07-20 18:45:40 +0000 UTC
Well Savaster did confirm that Ken was a audience stand in, just like Your name from the five minute summer story. That happened fairly recently.
Also we don’t know how the story will continue with the relationship development. And we should leave Savaster alone as it’s his story to tell, and not judge him for whatever he is writing.
Didrik Svahn
2022-07-20 18:42:16 +0000 UTC
If Ken's slowly ascending to avoid getting the bends, fine. Says a lot about him that he's not willing to risk a potentially fatal injury when someone is dying, but whatever.
As for what's wrong with the kiss...well, it's something that's bothered me about this series for a while. Namely, the whole subplot about Aya and Chihaya's feelings for Ken, which just feels extremely gross and inappropriate. Ken is an adult. The girls are teenagers. Yes, I understand that there's "only" a four year age gap between Ken and Chihaya (according to the cast info), but for someone as young as Chihaya, that's STILL a huge gap. Maybe I'm looking at it through a Western lens, but Ken should not be returning the affections of these underage girls who are coming onto him. Especially if he's serving as their teacher (which brings a power imbalance into the mix and makes things weirder) and especially in this story. It feels inappropriate, and detracts from the main focus of the series - these girls and their diving adventures.
Not to mention that...I really don't care for Ken? He's basically a vanilla dating Sim protagonist with no depth or interesting traits. If I was feeling uncharitable, I'd even go so far as to call him an audience insert, someone we're meant to use as an extension of ourselves. In that respect, the romance between him and Chihaya feels even MORE uncomfortable - and that opens up cans of worms I'd rather stay shut.
So yeah. Sorry for the lengthy reply, but I don't think the Ken romance has a place here. I get wanting to expand the world and the story, but I could have lived without one of the new themes being a student-teacher romance.
Joey245
2022-07-20 18:18:49 +0000 UTC
40 meters could be considered a "deep dive" in the scuba community from what I have heard of. So to avoid decompression sickness Ken need to either do a safety stop for up to an minute in the halfway point towards the surface. And he should not ascent faster then 9m/s either. And if Chihaya did inhale some of that compressed air then she needs to decompress as well. However if she didn't and her lungs is still just water then she should not suffer from decompression sickness, (at least regarding from what her lungs would caused).
Some sources that I used to get my information
https://www.scuba.com/blog/scuba-guides/types-decompression-stops-ii/
https://www.scuba.com/blog/scuba-guides/top-5-tips-avoid-decompression-sickness/
Didrik Svahn
2022-07-20 14:47:32 +0000 UTC
We don't know the depth, looks 30-40m, Ken needs decompression when he rising, it's need time. I don't know much about this, If Chihaya takes Ken's breath she needs decompression too? or I was wrong?
lisenke
2022-07-20 14:04:03 +0000 UTC
Ken can’t return to the surface quickly without suffering from the bends.
Also what is that wrong with the kiss? Because Chihaya did already kiss Ken before her dive remember. So it would not be the first time it would happened.
Didrik Svahn
2022-07-20 13:19:26 +0000 UTC
Bring her to the surface already, you dingbat! (Also if this gets framed as an actual kiss instead of just a kiss of life I'm abandoning this series. Will still be a patron, will just...mentally check out of Apnea Girl vs. Girl.)
Joey245
2022-07-20 13:13:26 +0000 UTC
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pixe
2022-07-20 13:05:26 +0000 UTC
come back to life! :3
melangalade
2022-07-20 13:02:34 +0000 UTC
LETSSSSSS GOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!! :D
thekill
2022-07-20 13:01:48 +0000 UTC
Yay we finally get to see another kiss of life, go Ken our man!