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The Time has come, the Trailer is here!

  

Make sure you have a proper BIG screen + headphones to pump up the volume. Don’t use a phone or crappy loudspeakers 😉 Before you continue to read, LOOK AT THIS TRAILER.  


  

When you’ve seen it, read on…


It’s a real pleasure to present my dirty mind to you! For last few months I couldn’t idle, I had itchy finger, so behind the scenes I was cooking up a really kinky experience. Here Is my dream:

FemDomination2

https://www.patreon.com/femdomination

First of all, no worries about Amoreon, I explained before in this Post: https://www.patreon.com/posts/amoreon-jpn-is-27106928

I will be continuing with the Amoreon when the required versions are done code wise (2D, language versions, Steam versions, partner versions etc).

This next project is something I’ll create myself with help of few Mistresses and you have a choice to make: you CAN support FemDomination2 to evolve AND/OR stay here.

I literally start from zero here. Lots of guys have following our work for so long, so I’m definitely don’t want to turn my back on you! Both Patreon sites gets the VR Fantasies as they are released, but the only way to get the new game is to support the new game development as a new supporter. I want to create this game for real and I hope you want to support my work.

Maybe you ask why I chose to make a new Patreon Site?

The current income of this Site is divided with the team working with Amoreon. But I told you before the required versions are taking too much time to finish, there is a lot to do code wise that I need to wait for. So FD2 is my very own Project I began to create in my waiting time. There is no relation to Amoreon. 

FD2 is a BDSM, kinky, latex Experience including Full Hypnosis with Hypnomistresses. 

I’ll be happy to answer all your questions.

Thank you for understanding, Jari

The Time has come, the Trailer is here!

Comments

Hi JimyVR! As explained before, the Amoreon versions are going to take time so we can advertise it properly. I didn't want to wait till this happens, instead I hopped to fd2 on my own and let the Amoreon team finish their part. We are saving tons of time and possibility to give you guys the fd2 way faster. However, the Amoreon team is not creating the fd2, that's why there is a new patreon site for it, as the income here goes to the Amoreon team. If you are interested, join patreon.com/femdomination

Citor3 Entertainment Studio

That's amazing stuff! However, we have been waiting for the missing content on FemDom 1 too all this time, which were said would be done after Amoreon. Is this still valid?

JimyVR

FD2 should be standalone, as it's a continuum to FD1, not Amoreon + project management would become a nightmare.

Citor3 Entertainment Studio

Love the trailer but why not make the FD2 realm a separate realm in Amoreon? The storyline would be easy to fit in: Phone call, you are invited to .. etc.

John

I am probably in the minority here but I thought I would throw my 2cents in. I also started with FD1 and followed along with Amoreon always hoping it would kinda branch off a little. I paid for both, played both, and enjoyed both. Now it looks like you have the beginings of something I have waited for a couple of years for. Something you will simply not find anywhere else in VR. I have bought and played so many games that were ok, but never came close to this. So for me, it isn't about how much I have paid, or how much the game will cost, its how soon can we have it!!! To get what I always wanted in a game, price is not really a factor. Thank you so much for going in this direction!

Dasher65

Oh, I don't doubt that femdom is your passion. Mine too! I feel better knowing that my contribution goes there as well.

tsaric

Definitely it counts. Heck, get it free if you've supported us for years! I know Amoreon versions are going to take time, but my passion is femdom. I need to get back to my roots. Id say read carefully my replies in this thread and you'll find the reason.

Citor3 Entertainment Studio

Jari, I'm fine with what you do. I will support you just as I will support Amoreon. I think everyone should be able to take their own way, whether that's fun or not for others. If you felt better to go on alone, you should definitely do that. in any case, creativity must be able to follow the free path. I also started following FD1, but I don't feel betrayed by your choice Jari. Live your life the way you want! but don't close doors and stay friends. the future is still long. Greeting Nonaak

nonaak

So to clarify, if we've supported FD1 / Amoreon in the past through the first patreon, this does count toward getting the FD2 release, or do we need to contribute another $20 threshold through the new patreon to get it?

tsaric

FD1 was the best we could do without any knowledge of how to make games or programming. That was the reason why it was so heavily built around a story, so the story would carry over the flaws. There is one bug, the dungeon dev mode not to be active. The animations are done with Unity legacy, meaning transitions are rough and loops looks...well.. loops. BUT it was THE game I loved to design and create. Now I'm going back to my roots and making the same with way advanced coding and ideas. Please understand, I'm doing this alone, breaking out from the Amoreon team for FD2.

Citor3 Entertainment Studio

That's precisely what I'm doing!!!! Glad I got it out in a way someone understands it.... I'll be focusing on FD2 only. Doing textures for amoreon when needed.

Citor3 Entertainment Studio

Ok Im understanding a little better. You as an individual are breaking away from Amoreon and going back to the FD content that started all of this and finishing what you wanted FD to be originally. Are you going to be working both projects or focusing on FD2 ?

Bobnewland

All versions required for the Amoreon: 2D, Steam, partner versions, vo gift versions. Those needs to be done, and it will take time. The income here goes to the Amoreon team. So is it fair for me to create FD2 and share that income with the people not doing anything for it?

Citor3 Entertainment Studio

If its not private what is preventing the main Amoreon team from working on FD2 ?

Bobnewland

I had to make the decision about a week ago, before that I was trying to find solution to keep it here. FD2 is one game, no chapters sold separately. I'll release test scenes of it, create a content suggestion threads, releasing chapters as they are ready. If you've spent hundreds of dollars for FD1 & Amoreon, get it for free. I'm not doing this move for fun, but I'm cornered here.

Citor3 Entertainment Studio

I can understand but I don't agree with how this was handled I would have preferred to know When it was decided that this patreon was no longer going to the future of FD. I would have decied if i wanted to support Amoreon or wait and support FD2. But it is what it is. Would you be willing to Expand on what is in the future For FD2 in terms of time-frame/ supporting . In terms of how much is each chapter going to Cost vs I need to support another patreon for so many months. Is it going to be something along the lines of each chapter is going to cost x when released or the whole game is released at once and cost x or do i support another year at x to get all the chapters. Because at this point i have spent a decent amount on something I thought was something else

Bobnewland

I agree with the others. Femdominaiton was the reason I was supporting in the first place, I have no interest in Amoreon and grudgingly accepted it only as accruing funds to continue Femdomination. I would be better if anything to separate Amoreon to a different Patreon and keep Femdomination here. Femdomination "1" never even got out of an early alpha state (limited content, many bugs remaining), so this could more be considered continued development rather than a second game (even if the engine is different the visuals and animations are almost identical).

Psuedonymous

One thing i forgot to tell you: I need to apologize for this FemDom/Amoreon trouble. I'm not good in communication skills and maybe we didn't explain enough of our road to you all. That's also a point i want to change on the new site. This is my very own project and i can be the only responsible guy there.

Citor3 Entertainment Studio

You really don't want to see updates to FD1, as FD2 outwashes it in so many ways. I totally agree on your opinion about the way to present it. I think there was no perfect way to put it.

Citor3 Entertainment Studio

You were supporting the future of the FD2. Without Amoreon I would have a daily job and all this would have ended long time ago. As said, the support here goes to Amoreon team and made it possible to keep FD line alive.

Citor3 Entertainment Studio

The point is: this Patreon was always about further developing FD, and Amoreon was presented as a sideline which is just there to generate an income so that more work can be done on FD. This is now suddenly changed to: this Patreon is about Amoreon and Amoreon only, and if you want to support FD, you have to go to another Patreon. So evidently I have not been doing what I thought I was doing, namely supporting FD, but instead I have been supporting only the development of a very bland and uninteresting game. So what is good about the current situation is that FD2 is starting development now, rather than in six months to a year if it would remain the responsibility of the main Amoreon team. What is also good about it, is that the patrons can now show what they want: more bland games, then support Amoreon; more specialized games, then support FD2. More both then support both. What is bad about the current situation is that FD will not see further updates (even though they were a big part of why many people supported this Patreon), and that a whole new Patreon is set up to do what originally was the goal of THIS Patreon. So the whole thing makes me a bit weary and suspicious. I have been burned by Patreon before, by developers who proved to be working on something completely different than they originally promised. So I am thinking "yeah, I can switch Patreons now, but what if the same thing will happen with the new one?" Anyway, it is probably a matter of how this was presented. It was brought as "hey guys, we are going to do something great, we are going to do the thing you came here for -- but it is going to be on a different Patreon, so realize that all your support until now went to something that you weren't interested in." This could have been communicated more tactically.

Igor

Here's the best way i think i can simplify where my issues lie. If say when Amoreon Became the current Project back in 2016/2017 it was clear that FD was done and no longer going to be worked on. That the money I was spending was only going to Amoreon content and related and not Towards Building Citor3 so in the future i could enjoy content Like FD. That is my biggest issue with this situation I was unaware that for over two years i was not supporting future FD content

Bobnewland

I don't know the Best way to convey This with out being a bit Harsh but Look into the possibly of Placing a Poll to see how many were supporting Amoreon For FD vs People supporting Amoreon. As i said I'm not to upset but This is looking a little bit like a Bait and switch for the content that was expected vs what we got .And now finding out it was not going to be and chances are was never going to be . Which being a patreon most people know going in but asking to go in again makes me personally a little hesitant

Bobnewland

Thanks for this, it's not an easy topic and I want to play fair. And if you were charged allready, all FD2 DL content gets published here also for june.

Citor3 Entertainment Studio

I think you all missunderstood a big Point. You got a Product thats advertised since a year like this. Even if you change now Patreon Amoreon still lives! It will also updated and you get the Updates via Launcher. There is another Team on it and this Site focused on Amoreon. If you change your Support now to the new Site. Its like you would stay here and FD2 gets published. For you personally is no difference. For Jari its a whole Infrastructure Theme.

PlaceboX

So... this is both exciting and frustrating. FemDomination is the reason I was here, and I've supported the Amoreon project since the Oculus DK2 was a thing. This looks really really cool, but I feel a bit swindled that I've contributed so much only to be pushed to another Patreon and start the whole process over again and pay for a different product... the one I was looking forward to the whole time.

tsaric

It's totally understandable you can't support both!!!! From my point of view, I had 2 choises; either wait till ALL Amoreon versions would be ready and AFTER that going back to FD. But I wanted to deliver way faster and as there is SO much codewise I can't do with Amoreon, as it's not done by me. I'm more into femdom & BDSM. Unfortunately Amoreon marketing needs more versions to get it above radar level. I knew this move would rise up discussion, and believe me, I thought a lot what's fair for everyone. Better to wait 6 more months before starting the new FD2? Meanwhile, give you few monthlies. I don't see that's fair for you supporting month after month and waiting for a kinky content.

Citor3 Entertainment Studio

Unfortunately I agree With PS on this subject . As my understanding was that FD was going to come out with more after Amoreon was finished due to FD not being something that could support it self. I started Pledging around 2016 for mainly the hypnosis/femdom content from before the patron was started and am a little disappointed that the content that was my reason for pledging is going to be on a different patron. Chances are If i choose to continue pledging it will be on the new one only. I fully enjoyed the what you guys have done and you have done Amazing work but chances are i would have stopped subscribing before Amoreon was live if i had known that FD was no longer going to be apart of this Patron. On a separate note something that was talked about but i saw only one or two updates after the announcement was the Shibby says hypno scene That was the kind of content that i was holding out for and assumed it was on the back burner vs no longer part of the project goals

Bobnewland

Iam the same as you and i waited drooling for this Moment, More Latex again! yay! You are Right, there is no value to stay with Amoreon and you dont Need to. You will get your Updates for Amoreon anyway and the interesting Content comes now in the new Site. Just switch and we will get our desire <3

PlaceboX

I fully understand the reasoning. Frankly, I was surprised when you said that you were going to fix the bugs in FD and add new materials after Amoreon finished, considering that the engine was outdated (still pretty good though). But I assumed you had your reasons for believing that it was still the way to go. And sure, if you would add the two expansion rooms to FD in that engine, and fix the few bugs, I would definitely be happy. I also agree that the extra scenes your released contained some really interesting content. I enjoy those much more than Amoreon. If it is at least possible to fix the remaining bugs in FD (Developer mode does not work in any scene, at least not with my Oculus with an Xbox controller), that would certainly be something that I would hope that happens. And if we can see in the near future some content of FD2, that would be pleasing too. That is what I hoped that Amoreon would do for us, and it is what some of the released scenes (which did not end up in Amoreon) did. So if that is the path you are onto, that is great. It is just that Amoreon is a dead end for me personally, so I see no real value in continuing to support it if that is the only thing that THIS Patreon is for. Which is a bit of a shame, as in the end I then have to conclude that it did not deliver what I hoped it would.

Igor

I truly understand your reactions. But the original FD is too old that it could evolve with it todays Standards. Do you really want a continuation of an outdated engine and graphical layout? We told often that we would think what we could to with FD. You also got much Monthly Scenes in that style. I dont think your Money was wasted till now if the kink is what you are expecting. With the beginning of Amoreon it was obvious its not a kinky game. At the start we were not clear enough for this, but in the last we never really talked about FD in public. Now I want to make something what you wish for (newer, better, cooler) and you are not ok with it? It's impossible to make the “kink” on this Patreon site, explained in the main post, this is why I MUST make a new one. I understand your worry but also I don’t. It sounds like you loose something but you don’t. Tell me what we could do to satisfy you without using an outdated engine.

Citor3 Entertainment Studio

Hm. I can tell you that my first reaction to this is "I am not happy." Basically, FD2 is more or less the reason that I chose to support you, and I understood from your previous posts that (a) Amoreon is supposed to be a money-generation device to be able to focus more on specialized games, and (b) that the original FD would get a debugged update with more content as soon as Amoreon was done. I don't care much for Amoreon, but I was willing to support you so that you could get back to FD. Now you announce that you will get back to FD, but I see no mentioning of completing the original game, and suddenly I have to go to another Patreon to support further FD developments. Can you see how that is disappointing to me? That it gives me the feeling that I was given a completely incorrect impression of what my support was going to be used for? I expect that I will move my support from Amoreon to the new Patreon, as evidently the new Patreon is why I originally got involved, but I am also considering dropping out altogether.

Igor

hehehe dont need to controll no player ;) to busy doing other stuff anyway. hehehe. Subsqription on femdom 2 already activated ;) great ideas here and i want in.

The Man

answered...

Citor3 Entertainment Studio

Where it's possible, yes. Each Character contains own camera you can hop to. Bare in mind though, I can't make every character controllable by the player.

Citor3 Entertainment Studio

damn hit the button. Question was: Will there be a posibility With full vr pov all scenes like the hallusinations monthly? Cos that was realy good :)

The Man

Will there be a posibility With full vr pov all scen

The Man


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