Mountain Sunset Background (AI powered)
Added 2023-11-01 22:39:03 +0000 UTCLook ma. no hands!
Is incredible the power of the AI i created this image using Midjourney, at the end I still had to put work on it to clean the pixel-art and make it loopable.
What are your thoughts? Is AI gonna replace artists or is it just a tool to create better artwork.
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Thanks I apperiate that, I am open to new technolgies, but will never relegate my creativity to an AI , As you said I have my style and I am trying to use AI as a tool , the same way I used Photoshop or Aseprite to create my artwork.
Luis Zuno
2023-11-13 23:08:14 +0000 UTCAs an addition: Just like many of your patrons before: I also subscribed because I love YOUR style. And thats also what keeps me here. So... hmm... I think every pixel placed by your hand is better than any generated pixel, no matter how good it looks :)
ILIKESCIFI
2023-11-13 09:46:40 +0000 UTCUfff... first i really liked it but the moment I read that you have used Midjourny.. something has changed. I think I´m kinda "too old for that shit" (a guitar is a guitar, a pen is a pen)... but of course we all have to deal with it and get to know the different tools. The big problem is, and i think this has been mentioned already, the AI will never create something new. It will be a perfect copy cat in 1 or 2 years but the pure creativity... hmm... well, we will see I guess, right?
ILIKESCIFI
2023-11-13 09:44:43 +0000 UTCAt the time I have use it as reference or help me get ideas. however I 'm afraid of using it as final product, I think is a bad idea to relegate all the creative work to the AI, I want to be the creative and only use the AI as helper.
Luis Zuno
2023-11-02 19:46:14 +0000 UTCYes by itself AI cannot give what you want, it needs extra effort, and also art direction from a human. Its a great tool and still thinking how can it help me improve my work or make it easier for me for my work flow I ll keep you posted on my experiments with AI and how to use it to create better artwork.
Luis Zuno
2023-11-02 19:43:07 +0000 UTCI think it helps if you think of AI as an automation/macro tool instead of an idea generation tool, at least that's the impression I got after working with OpenAI and Adobe Firefly. I recently tried to do a still-animation of the first chapter of Alice in Wonderlands using Firefly, sentence by sentence, and each sentence tweaked and frame manually selected until it was about right, and you can very clearly see the repetitions in positions, colors and shapes - but also maybe more interestingly, it starts to feel like a lucid dream, there is a lot of similarity between the dream state and the AI compositions since after all both are based on a simulation generated on a neural network. So my guess is that if used for composition, it is more fit for dreamlike/surrealist sequences where continuity is not crucial.
hyperstitious
2023-11-02 05:12:39 +0000 UTCIMO, if you do enough of it, it is going to look very generic; composition, colors, style, proportions are all averages. A bigger problem is that it has no cohesive style between the produced assets, there is no bigger picture artistic drive in them. Maybe if you train your own models it gets better, but it gets technically specific. AI is great for assisting tools like the lasso/selection tool or removing some trees in the background of a photo, but the more it needs to compose, the more boring it gets. I think that if you try something more specific you will get a better idea of how much it can help you: maybe try something like composing a portrait for the yellow jacket cyberpunk character, I think discovering a workflow for this could be beneficial (a way to make complementary cohesive assets from your existing assets)
hyperstitious
2023-11-02 05:00:20 +0000 UTCI think it's a great tool. In fact, many assets that I needed for my game were done with AI using Retro Diffusion. The problem was at that time the palet, as you may have experienced. Way tooooooooo many colors. SO I had to work like you did to color it evenly with a custom palet. No. Artists are artists. This is a great tool to save you time so you don't need to spend 8 hours at the office hahahahahha. Maybe 2-3 and then say hello to your own time.
Kakyouin
2023-11-02 02:14:24 +0000 UTCI mean, maybe people would be more satisfied with their life, if they made pottery, instead of worked in a factory making plastic injection molded cups. I see no use for AI in an artistic sense, just like I see no use for plastic cups in a society with “artisans” can make pottery.
Joshua Schmalle
2023-11-01 23:48:17 +0000 UTCAlso, don’t forget technology is something people sell to you that can go away whenever it wants if nukes decide to go off You don’t own your talent if you use AI in my opinion Not trying to argue ✌️
Joshua Schmalle
2023-11-01 23:44:37 +0000 UTCLook, when I see a Japanese manga artist who’s been drawing their whole life freehand a scene in 2 minutes like a printer because they have been doing it their whole life, i am impressed. If you want to use AI to make commercial art quicker, so you can play more video games or whatever you do in your free time, by all means, do you. I am a musician, and in my free time I make music, so I will keep practicing until I am a god without AI.
Joshua Schmalle
2023-11-01 23:42:37 +0000 UTCYes, totally. I hope one day everyone can create their own ideas and visions without relaying in specialists. For me its great to be able to create music, animations, and video games without having to spend much time learning and spending a lot of money in equipment.
Luis Zuno
2023-11-01 23:34:11 +0000 UTCI agree, Thanks. Our work as artists is now more as directors than workers.
Luis Zuno
2023-11-01 23:32:07 +0000 UTCThanks, Yes I think that AI is a tool that should help artists to improve, also get inspiration and get better results in less time. By itself the AI cant create by itself (at least for now) is not conscious. The artist is the director that will guide the new technologies to create better products, in this case art.
Luis Zuno
2023-11-01 23:31:19 +0000 UTCIf you want to understand what I’m saying, just look at anything you have done by hand and compare it to that I don’t know maybe it’s the specific piece and I might like something else you make using AI this background just doesn’t feel right to me, just looks off and eventually Ill be able to articulate what isnt right
Joshua Schmalle
2023-11-01 22:55:35 +0000 UTCI’m going to be 100% honest with you, I like your art style and that looks so generic. I don’t know what you see in that that is better than anything you’ve put out. I literally subscribed to you because I like your art style. I don’t know. That just looks like an algorithmic pixelated sunset to me. I guess my question for you is, how can you look at that and say to me that is a genius expression of your art? If your goal is just to create more product quicker, and then sure, who cares, but if you’re using that as a tool for inspiration, you definitely should refine the stone way more… Peace, I hate preaching
Joshua Schmalle
2023-11-01 22:50:49 +0000 UTCIt's a great tool. AI can't invent things by itself. It still needs input from artists to bring out what is desired.
James Rozee
2023-11-01 22:45:14 +0000 UTCI think it’s a great tool when used responsibly. I am using it for my Tron-like game to supplement what I can afford to pay for directly. I don’t mind people disagreeing but I wouldn’t listen to the shrill naysayers who go around shaming people for using it and misunderstand what it does.
Michael Greenhut
2023-11-01 22:42:28 +0000 UTC
