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[RPO] RPO Collection v2.963: a new jealousy feature and other small stuff

Hi subscribers! <3
I am still trying to rest but I wanted to wrap up a few thing & requests first.

So, here goes!

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NEW RPO VERSION (files attached)

You don't have to update, it's up to you.

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1. M7: A New Jealousy Setting

There are some discrepancies with how EA handles in what circumstances jealousy should be triggered during romantic interactions that are REJECTED by the Sim being romanced.

More precisely, there are discrepancies on a partner's jealousy triggering or not if a Sim rejects another Sim's advances.

In some interactions, EA decided that this does not warrant jealousy from the rejecter's partner. But in others, EA have decided that it does.
And it's puzzling, not to say nonsensical. Rejecting a kiss (whose mere availability implies having already had romance and a first kiss with how the game works) means no jealousy from partner. Rejecting a flirt means jealousy from partner. Why? Who knows.

This is something I looked into over a year ago, but unfortunately I only partially did so because - it just so happens that the one interaction I first looked at is part of the ones for which jealousy gets triggered only if the Sim being romanced accepts the interaction. After seeing that, I was simply convinced that EA had already done the thing I wanted, and that I'd been misreading the stuff in other files / in game.
Well, a message from someone recently sent me to check again. And here we are today.

Regardless - here is a new option for those of you who might want a unified behavior on this. And more precisely, who might want that in any situation in which a Sim rejects romantic advances from another, this rejecting sim should not be victim of jealousy from their partner as though they had accepted the interaction and in fact cheated.

NOTE: this is perfectly functional, but I will still label it as 'EXPERIMENTAL' just because I won't be 100% sure if issues can arise from the way I've done this or not until people actually play with it.

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2. Donate Baby Making Bio Material: Impregnator version

The version of this for sims who can get pregnant is not made yet because it will take more elements, due to the differences between those two real life processes. But it's upcoming and it will happen as part of the course of general updates to all of the previous RPO mods.

Sims who can impregnate can now Donate Baby Making Bio Material.

Might add more to this 'impregnator' side of this when I add the 'impregnatable sim' version later.

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3. M11: Ask to Terminate

Many players who have had a situation with a pregnant NPC have asked for a way to make the NPC terminate their pregnancy. This was not an option in the mod because of the ethical risks of portraying 'forced abortion', but it is also necessary to have a way for the plan of the stories the way they want and the way they would if they could play the sim in question. So, I have now added an interaction followed by a pop-up choice, so that players can play out the way they want but without depicting an absence of agency for the pregnant sim.

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4. Some fixes

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That's it for today!

Comments

Thank You

schla79

Hi, go to the latest version post (v2. 97, it's linked in the mod index) :)

Lumpinou

how can i download this one please?

crystal duke

Yeah that's been asked many times and part of planned stuff for the upcoming additions to existing rpo mods

Lumpinou

I just had another thought.. I’m not sure if this is doable on your end but here goes! I would love the ability to introduce my sim’s significant other to their parents if they haven’t met already &/or like announce to their parents that they are dating that sim. So like if they’re in high school & they start dating their best friend & the parent already knows them, it’d be awesome if the teen could announce the romantic relationship with their friend. Or if they’re an adult & their romantic partner doesn’t know their parents, if they could be introduced as their SO.

Ashleigh Mathias

Did you try with rpo collection by itself in a new save? If your computer is weak, it probably can't handle a mod collection like this. If it's fine in a new save, you might have a cache issue, which can't be solved

Lumpinou

hey im having issues with your rpo mods its causing my my pie menu to take way to long to load, i put it by itsself as well still same problem am i just stuck w it?

AbrisTheSimmer

Hi, no not outdated at all, and there's no known error with it so, ideally it would be important to share the error report :) but chances are it's not related. But I'd be happy to check it for you

Lumpinou

Hii Lumpinou!! I see that there's one last update for RPO until next year. I don't have access to it yet, but I just wanted to know if V2.963 is outdated because I just received an mc_lastexception saying that RPO was outdated. I downloaded around Dec.19.

thekillmars300

Option is still there. It's not necessary for paternity or wtds however

Lumpinou

with WW do we no longer get the option where we need to mark as woohoo with after WW interaction? love the mod

Chole Elaine Machen

You very likely have old files still in somewhere

Lumpinou

my game options pop up as 3 dots and I just downloaded it is the mod not compatible with some other mods?

Taylor Smith

Hi, what do you mean exactly

Lumpinou

Hey Lumpinou! Love love love the mod, I was wondering if there will ever be an IVF module for sims with low fertility?

Alexis Whorley

Sure I can add a "Announce Partner's Pregnancy" :)

Lumpinou

Hi, there! I absolutely love using your mods & my games would be unplayable without them!! There is one gameplay aspect I find myself missing, though! It usually doesn't bother me because I primarily play as women but I noticed that expecting fathers can't "Share Pregnancy News" with their parents or anyone else. Only the pregnant sim can do that! I think it would be nice if expecting dads could share pregnancy news & other interactions along that vein! Thank you for all you do!!

Ashleigh Mathias

I added the traits to count today

Lumpinou

Hi, They are not missing, everything is in there

Lumpinou

In the zip folder there are missing modules … 1-4 & 13-17 … do I need them ??

Mommy Daj

Hey Lumpinou, Quick question for "Ask to Terminate" does the option "Let fate decide" take into account about NPCs pregnancy / children preference? Or is it random? Thanks

moonlightsimmer

No, it's a negative sentiment, those can be diminished by positive ones until they vanish. So, it simply takes living positive experiences together

Lumpinou

I apologize in advance if this question is posed twice. I cannot find my original post. If my sim doesn't come to terms with her pregnancy/or infant, will she be doomed to just hate being around an unwanted child forever?

Peir Fluellen

When I finish the other parts of the system that's the plan. Idk yet if I'll just limit the list for insemination to sims who have donated, and ofc add lotsa npc's as donating too, or if I'll make some npc' s get inséminations, or both

Lumpinou

Thanks!

Sam D.

Will donating genetic material result in a sim being born from that?

Sam D.

You have old files in or an old translation

Lumpinou

the interaction come up as "..." without any information on them

Taylor David

Loving the "ask to terminate" option!

Amber Hamblin

For about two hours there was a version up with a problem. Re-download and you'll be fine :)

Lumpinou

Better exceptions said this mod specifically the pregnancy preference was broken and had bad tuning. Gonna try and see if I just messed something up or not.

Kathy

I swear I cannot play with this mod and it just keeps on getting better! thank you so much for talent and creativity! 3>

Ms. Book

This was the greatest birthday gift yesterday!! Thank you for all your hard work!! I hope you give your hands a break now <3

Ashley Augustine

Thank you!! You're the best, always.

Lisa Börjegren

Amazing Thank you!!

Simeralla

These are such well thought out additions to the mod! Thank you so much! The way the base game mishandles jealousy has always driven me nuts - thank you SO much for everything you've added that helps fix that. I am also very excited at the addition of the new interaction regarding the NPC pregnancy - especially the "Let Fate Decide" option. Love it! All of these nuances make such a big difference in game play. Thank you so much! :-)

ChelleBelle716

Thanks 💙

Lumpinou

Thank you!!

Keri Shackelford

thank you so much!

audbooh

i really appreciate the care that you put into your mods. it first occurred to me when i saw your mod accounts for a distinction between (not) wanting children & being (un)happy about physically being pregnant – the fact that my sim can want children but still struggle with the physical aspect of being pregnant is so realistic & adds so much nuance to my storytelling. i think the “ask to consider termination” option will add similar opportunities but in an ethical way. i appreciate the thought you put into details like that. thank you!

Ashley

Hi, Refresh your page and you should be fine :) This happens when posts are still processing changes

Lumpinou

Thank you for the update! I'm getting a "code not found" error that is preventing me from downloading. Any suggestions you have for this? Thanks in advance!

brooklynceline

Incredible, love the new update 💗☺️ Tysm for your hard work!

Savythatsimmer

😂 I get what you mean. Not at the moment no but perhaps later. I still have to make the version for Sims who can get pregnant and I can add more to this then. At the moment it's not been the main focus and I AM supposed to rest 😂 the big thing in the above was the new setting. The rest I did quick to answer requests but it can always be buffed up when I get to the expansions of that particular rpo mod proper

Lumpinou

Thank you! I love the "perhaps it's best to not think too much about that." It had me laughing. Is there a stacking mechanic if a sim donates frequently or a cooldown sort of feature? I don't know if I'm wording either of those right so hopefully you understand what I'm trying to say.

Samantha Jackson

Hi, relationships are completely bilateral in terms of tracks and points and that cannot be changed, it's too much 'core' to how the game is built. So, nobody can change that unfortunately! Various modders have tried to make it look like it is so, and I've done that myself, but really it's kind of just pretense from us aha. We can influence some things but the romance bars will always be exact mirrors

Lumpinou

Thank you, Lumpinou! Another thing missing in The Sims 4 is asymmetrical relationships. It may not be possible in The Sims, but in real life, it is possible to have unrequited love for another or even to like someone more than they like you. Just a thought.

Pol Roger

Nice changes! I look forward to seeing them play out in game. I also love the Let Fate Decide option on the pop ups for the unexpected drama it adds. I know it's been there a while, but I got to use it recently in a cheating situation where I wasn't too invested in whether the couple would stay together or not. They did break up, and it turns out I was happy with the decision, lol.

Temesha Hostetler

Thank you Lumpinou!

Pol Roger


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