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[Announce] Regarding to my current tablet PC situation!

the picture above is current state of my tablet PC that I usually use to draw all my artworks up until now, yup! every artworks came from this tiny tablet power, Really appreciated it that with just 4GB of ram and 64GB or rom can hold it duty in these past four years.


but right now I think it's time to let this little boy retire from its duty. and as you can see that the system is still on even its battery swelling and pushing screen out from the frame. Don't know that how long it can last functional.


At first I think of finding a same size battery and a shop to repair but when I think about its own performance this tablet is really far behind in this day...(laggy when using Photoshop and CSP....only SAI that can keep up with)


so, I decide to buy a new PC to replace it but not a brand new, I intend to learn how to assemble a PC and build one for myself in case that I've to upgrade or fix it in the future instead of bring it to a shop's service.

But talk easier than done because I didn't have any knowledge or experience in this matter........ honestly just read motherboard ,RAM or CPU spec can make me dizzy! which should I choose, which is compatible with other, etc.


But I tried to search for the details and finally can come up with a budget build to test with my first try!

Please help me check these setting and let me know your opinion if you could or Is there some component I miss :

- CPU : AMD Ryzen 5 3600x
- M/B : Asus tuf B550m plus gaming (graphinc card, wifi&bluetooth on-board)
- SSD : WD black SN750 500GB m.2 NVMe
- Ram : Corsair Vengeance RGB pro 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4
- HDD : WD 1TB blue sata3
- PSU : Corsair cx750m

and A case tower



I'm not so sure that I'd need a GPU card because there's a graphic card on-board. I didn't intend to play game on it so....maybe not for now. but want to know that if I only use drawing program like PSD, SAI or CSP only, without GPU card Can this spec handle or even running?)

and not sure about 'liquid heatsink or CPU cooling' thing too, Is this a must have or not because Ryzen seem to has a fan cooling in the package?


Thank you guys for listen to my problems. I'm really confuse when read the details of these computer part there's a lot of word that I didn't know before. XD


I'll have to postpone all my artworks until this new PC is ready to go( I guess one week at most to order every part and assemble it) but don't worry about next Reward box I will make sure to have it sent on New years EVE with at least 8 artworks as usual!

[Announce] Regarding to my current tablet PC situation!

Comments

As someone who gets too attached to tech thats way to busted to work. (I've had an S4 till last month,) its better to just upgrade some times

J Man

Thank you, Dylan! I decided to use gtx 1650 super for a long run now(I didn't plan on gaming so hope that I don't need to change this part for a few years)😅

GaiNoob

Certainly beating a dead horse here since it's already been said. But overall that's a rather reasonable build 3600x is one of the best value for money CPUs around right now, but it doesn't have onboard graphics (the motherboard is just saying it supports them if the CPU has it) , you'd need a 3400g for that, which would be fine if you intend to just keep working with the same programs you have been on your tablet (since whilst not a modern powerhouse it's still several years newer and that has its benefits) , however if you wanted to use say Photoshop instead you would probably be better off sticking with the 3600 and seeing if your budget would allow you to squeeze in a graphics card, not necessarily anything high end, a 2gb GTX 1050 would probably get the job done although a 4gb GTX 1050 would probably be better if you use a lot of layers in Photoshop (Photoshop likes its memory), or as a sort of "cream of the crop" kinda thing if you can get it for the same price a 4gb GTX 1650 would probably pair the best with that sort of setup. Anyway sorry for the block of text , hope it helps, Goodluck with your new computer and have a nice day.

Dylan Sheaves

Thank you for your advice! I think I'll go with gtx 1650 super for gpu now. Hope that this can handle the work for at least 3-5 years. ^^

GaiNoob

As has been mentioned before, the Ryzen 5 3600X does not have an integrated GPU. As someone who also does work in Photoshop, a GPU definitely does have benefits when working inside PS. You don’t need a super top of the line one though, a basic one will get you by for now. If you can find a Ryzen 5 3400G, you’d get an iGPU but you’d sacrifice some CPU performance. It will get you by for drawing though. In general, I myself don’t like iGPUs because that’s just more heat on the CPU and that means faster parts wear. Your parts list seems good. In my experience, Asus is one of the better brands of AMD motherboards though I’ve been hearing good things about MSI lately since everyone started taking AMD more seriously after Zen+. As for your SSsd, that’s one mainly meant for hardcore applications like professional video editing and gaming but it is also made of flash memory that lasts longer than the average SSD on the market. If you need to drop the price a bit, or get a bit more capacity for the money, you could go for something like a Crucial/Micron P1, but it won’t last as long as the WD black.

Oh! That's good!

GaiNoob

Also, for your question about cooling, the fan that comes with the ryzen 5 is very solid. I never really had any issues with it even when gaming~

RubySoul

Ok!😁

GaiNoob

The 1650 super is noticeably better than the 1650, but may not be much of a noticeable difference for illustration purposes, whichever fits your budget best would be perfectly fine. If they are pretty much the same cost in your area, definitely a super.

RubySoul

Should I go with a normal 1650 or 1650 super?

GaiNoob

Thank you! I think I'll go with this 1650 one but is there a different between 1650 and 1650 super?

GaiNoob

Awesome, is a pretty solid card for many things ^^

RubySoul

Oh! I start to understand about how important gpu card now so,as you suggest I think I'll go with 1650 for a long term drawing use.☺️

GaiNoob

Like others said. The 3600x doesn't come with a gpu. The closest amd cpu that does is the ryzen 5 3400g. It is a bit weaker than the 3600x with 4 cores instead of 6, but the 3400g's built in gpu should be plenty if you're just going to use it for programs like sai/csp (which generally have much lower requirements compared to photoshop). If you'd rather use the 3600x, and you dont plan to game or anything, any modern gpu with at least 4gb of memory should be fine for those programs. a 1650 is a great card for example, though you can go lower like if your area has something like an amd rx 460/560 for much cheaper (not much of a difference in price in my area for brand new one tho xD), that should be more than enough too.

RubySoul

Since you're not really looking for a gaming PC that will last you at least 5 to 10 years, as some ppl already suggested, you should be OK with a nvidia 1650 model. Brand doesn't really make much of a difference IMO, since what matters most is the nvidia chipset itself.

MDashK

Ok! Then I'll considering them base on warranty & shop service😉

GaiNoob

Honestly any of them will work. MSI, Asus, Gigabyte, EVGA are all brands I would personally buy from.

Eric Zompetti

I just search it and found that there are a lot of brand have GeForce 1650 in their name product...which brand should I choose? Can you give me a hint?😅

GaiNoob

Oh! Thank you! Do you have a recommend choice for GPU? I only focus on drawing because I mostly play mobile game.😅

GaiNoob

Thank you! I'll check on that!☺️

GaiNoob

Oh! Thank you very much for your advice I quite relieved that everything I choose are decent. Have to admit that the price alway have a mark up from retailers it's slightly more expensive but acceptable because I need it now. 😅

GaiNoob

Oh, one more thing about the SSD: the SN750 is a good choice, but depending on price or availability, the ADATA XPG SX8200 Pro and HP EX920 or EX950 are good substitutes (I personally use the EX920, and my brother uses the ADATA). The SK Hynix Gold P31 also gets good reviews, especially for laptop use because of its low power. Once again, all depends on pricing.

pengin senshi

You will need a GPU, the 3600x does not have a iGPU, something like a 1650(60) Super would be fine for 1080p, if you go into the realm of 1440p you will want a 2060 Super.

Eric Zompetti

As for the GPU, I haven't looked at SAI and CSP, but they may be able to take advantage for some GPU acceleration, but you'll have to look. Maybe it's not really necessary for drawing , though. Video editing sees the bigger benefit. However, you will need to buy a GPU for Ryzen, or at least if you buy the 3600(X); it actually doesn't include a built-in GPU. The lower models with a G have the GPU. So maybe look at a NVDIA GTX 1650 Super for a somewhat cheap GPU, but could still play a lot of game at 1080p with decent settings. (once again, I'm not sure of your prices, but in the US, it retails for around $180).

pengin senshi

Usually, iGPUs are always lower-end, so even when working with photoshop or similar, it doesn't usually have that good performance that dedicated GPUs have. For graphical work, best advice is to get a good GPU to be on par with that. Depending on your work load you can decide to get a newer one (but more expensive) or an older model that might be cheaper but still handle all the workload you put into it. Regarding liquid headsink, usually, as long as the thermal in the CPU is of good quality, you don't need to get liquid heatsink. That is usually usefull and used to gaming heavy load and extensive hours of pushing your CPU to the limit. AFAIK, working under photoshop and similar does not really push CPU over boundaries to need such a cooling method, because the stress goes more into RAM and GPU.

MDashK

The specs are fine Just make sure the CPU comes with a cooler the AMD stock cooler is more than enough for the work you are planning to do. About the GPU that CPU does not include an integrated GPU and the same goes for the board so you need a dedicated GPU You don't need a very powerful GPU if is only for illustration Also, search for the ryzen 3600xt it's a refresh of the 3600x but with better clock speeds for the same or similar price but make sure it comes with a cooler

east

Wow, that battery is really pushing up on the screen! Yeah, you need a new PC 😁. As for you new PC, welcome to the world of DIY PC building! Once you've built your first PC or two, you'll get comfortable with the process. I think your parts choices are mostly good; the Ryzen 3000 series is still good, and I actually have the regular, non-X 3600 in my PC. I'm not sure of pricing in your country, but if the 3600 has a good discount, you could buy that one and get 95% of the performance of the 3600x for less. Similar thought for the SSD: if the 1TB isn't much more, I would just get that right now, even though you said you don't plan to game on it. (I'll continue in a new post)

pengin senshi


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