Jim Cornette Reviews CM Punk At AEW's All Out Media Scrum
Added 2025-01-08 05:06:34 +0000 UTCWatch: https://streamable.com/pimszg
Context provided by Ventus Starkz: I guess I’m submitting some wrestling lore, for my tally tier, there is some back story that needs to be told before you watch this video I’m show, everything I’m about to say are facts, cm punk was in AEW, and he had a best friend from the start of his career into 2014, this friend is named colt cabana, when Cm punk quit WWE in 2014, everyone wanted to know why so Cm punk went on colt cabana podcast to talk about why he left and talk about how WWE Doctors failed to treat punk properly and caused him to get more sick, the podcast blow up and WWE doctor sue Cm punk and colt cabana for defamation, cm punk won and colt won but colt not being as rich as cm punk couldn’t pay for his legal fees and cm punk before everything started said he would pay for colt legal fee and when punk didn’t pay right away, colt sued punk and demanded the money, punk sued him back and colt drop the lawsuit and they never spoke into then, in AEW after a year of cm punk being in AEW , while colt cabana was in AEW as well, he was moved to Ring of honor which is a company own as well by Tony khan , everyone started talking in like the dirt sheets and on twitter on why colt was moved from AEW main roster to ring of honor , the rumor was that cm punk demanded that colt cabana be moved out of AEW to ring of honor , or fired but this was just a rumor and proved to be untrue, in this video I’m going to show you it’s the press conference after the AEW PPV double or nothing, cm punk just won the AEW world championship from john moxly and he’s sitting next to Tony khan and he’s still bloody and sweaty from his match and was about to get ask questions from the wrestling media , this video is Jim’s review of Cm punk press media event .
Comments
I appreciate that you cut this off when you genuinely weren't enjoying this. Genuine negativity content that's just looking to bring a company down is one of the worst things in the wrestling community imo, and I'm saying this as someone who really does not like CM Punk.
G_Rez
2025-03-16 17:08:36 +0000 UTCI’ve never laughed harder in my life than when I heard Cornett call the young bucks “Sorry ass dickless nitwits”
Wilson Simons
2025-01-17 01:24:52 +0000 UTCAnd then look for his comments about the death of Jay Briscoe and the way he speaks about the woman who also died in the incident. Dont defend Cornette, he is racist and sexist.
Varits Vq
2025-01-11 15:50:22 +0000 UTCMy man, look for Jim Cornettes NWA exit.
Varits Vq
2025-01-11 15:48:05 +0000 UTCYeah, the podcasts are littered with swearing and very raunchy and obscene but I freaking love it. My personality is on the opposite end of the spectrum and I would hate being around someone like that at work but as a show/podcast I freaking enjoy it. I have no idea how many times I've listened to the commercial omnibuses! Haha.
Bryan Sem
2025-01-11 05:14:55 +0000 UTCYeah, there's a recent clip from drive thru ep 374 on the Bucks saying they were intentionally wrestling boring matches when they became the EVPs on TV... Cornette then goes into a little bit of his dealings with them back on the day.
Bryan Sem
2025-01-11 05:11:15 +0000 UTCI called out tribalists, not wrestling fans. There is a gigantic difference. If you're in this awesome community that Dporticus has built, I would assume you're not. Jim starts out with fair points and then descends into name-calling and sometimes personal defamation of a talent. I respect that he loves this business and I adored him as the manager to Yokozuna, Owen and Bulldog in the 90's. But he is the toxic echo chamber in wrestling and I just don't think that sort of tone is needed in this wrestling safe space. As for the rest of your points, that has nothing to do with me. Just like what you like.
City and Local
2025-01-10 22:45:00 +0000 UTCYeah the nicknames definitely get old. Especially the hang nail Adam page and Kukamonga Kids. Don't have a problem with "Pockets" though because it's Orange Cassidy's gimmick. That's less insulting then calling hangman "hangnail".
Chad
2025-01-10 18:19:16 +0000 UTCHow is Cornette sexist or racist? I mean intolerable sure. It's hard to listen to someone constantly bashing on people but I've never once heard him say anything bad about any race. First, I'm not gonna get political, but he's bashed those people who have espoused racist views (Hogan, etc.) for what they did say.
Chad
2025-01-10 18:15:42 +0000 UTCI think that's a generalization. I think tribalism starts with people making talking points from figures from both sides. It's not just wwe fans who do the tribalism. I actively try not to let AEW fans know I listen to Cornette because a certain sub-section of the fans gatekeep aew. I've actually heard some say "Well, if you like Cornette, you don't like aew." and that's just wrong on multiple levels because I wouldn't say I like cornette, just listen to him. Secondly, if I wanna watch aew, I'll watch aew lol. I just think there's tribalism on both sides that I will not subject myself to.
Chad
2025-01-10 17:37:45 +0000 UTCI only listen to his podcasts not because I believe the same things he does. I like modern wrestling, womens wrestling, and supernatural gimmicks more than he does. I watch the podcasts because there's some of the most hilarious things he throws in the middle of his podcasts, some that don't do with wrestling, that I almost die of laughter listening to him sometimes.
Chad
2025-01-10 17:30:06 +0000 UTCI would die if the blowup doll beat Kenny. Lol. That would be so comedic.
Chad
2025-01-10 17:25:37 +0000 UTCIt is true that Cornette tried giving Omega and The young bucks some advice in ring of honor back in the day when he was running it, but they brushed him off. Maybe that's part of the reason he doesn't like them.
Chad
2025-01-10 17:22:01 +0000 UTCI like Tony's face lol. He looks at Punk like "Oh really? Tell me you didn't just say that."
Chad
2025-01-10 17:16:53 +0000 UTCListen dude. I do agree with Cornette on some things when it comes to aew but the hate and tribalism has gotta stop. It's one thing to criticize something. It's another thing to just hate it because it's the other show.
Chad
2025-01-10 17:14:41 +0000 UTCI got 9:46 in and couldn’t stand his voice. I don’t try to hate, but hating on Cornette is a fact of life
Bobthekow
2025-01-09 23:00:30 +0000 UTCThis is one of his best videos.
Big Ell
2025-01-09 15:29:58 +0000 UTCElaborate.
Dport
2025-01-09 12:46:33 +0000 UTCYou always pander to the aew fanboys
John Martinez
2025-01-09 12:43:44 +0000 UTCYeah Jim's like a funny and unfunny dirge. He is prick and I think we all know that
Diruroru
2025-01-09 06:10:41 +0000 UTCA relentlessly cruel bigot, I have no time for people making excuses for him or acting like he should be respected. Fuck ‘em
Wade Kruse
2025-01-09 03:36:44 +0000 UTCHahahaha me too
David
2025-01-09 03:11:32 +0000 UTCI sometimes enjoy a 5 minute cornette clip about a segment I watched, regardless of if I enjoyed the segment or not. I find it funny when he's so angry, but I actually can't imagine listening to him for this long about a serious subject. Headache material.
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2025-01-09 02:57:32 +0000 UTCYeah nah.
Steamed Ham Champion Dillon Haggett
2025-01-09 02:57:22 +0000 UTCYeah the guy turned out to be a creep and the gimmick was bad but have you seen some of the shitty gimmicks Jim came up with in OVW? It happens Kenny Omega vs a blow-up doll is for fun and people loved it just like with the other stuff As I stated previously wrestling is an artform and has many different shades to it and some of those shades people aren't gonna personally like. Jim is free to do that sure but that doesn't make him right and it doesn't make what Kenny does bad just because it's not a certain person's taste People already say wrestlings fake nothing is gonna change that now welcome to the new era Where we accept that and move on because through it all wrestlers still invest us Kenny was wrestling a "fake" wrestling match against Gabe Kidd and made me cry Sure the fighting part is scripted and fake But my emotions aren't You can think Kenny's comedy wrestling is dumb all you wish but what you're actually saying is "I'm not personally a fan" because in the end that's a small majority lol
Paul Watson
2025-01-08 18:59:36 +0000 UTCWhat could go wrong
Dport
2025-01-08 18:52:21 +0000 UTCYeah or there’s someone like Joey Ryan who had the penis gimmick. Oh yeah ha ha so funny, then it turns out he’s a major creep and it’s like “Well duh! Did you see his gimmick?” I’m fine with most comedy wrestling but at least keep it in the realm of believability. Stuff like Omega wrestling the little girl or blow up doll or the invisible man match I just think are really dumb and gives haters more ammo to say wrestling’s fake.
Steamed Ham Champion Dillon Haggett
2025-01-08 18:20:45 +0000 UTCThe clip of him saying the n word sounds old.
Steamed Ham Champion Dillon Haggett
2025-01-08 18:16:45 +0000 UTCI’ve used the “I’m old, I’m tired and I work with fucking children.” Line in real life before. It will never not be funny.
Steamed Ham Champion Dillon Haggett
2025-01-08 18:13:05 +0000 UTCI think you missed something after Cornette and before and.
Steamed Ham Champion Dillon Haggett
2025-01-08 18:10:13 +0000 UTCI love you guys and I love Corny, but I just don’t think I can listen this. It’s over 40 minutes long.
Steamed Ham Champion Dillon Haggett
2025-01-08 18:08:15 +0000 UTCAfter this scrum the bucks and Kenny charged into punks dressing room and got into a fist fight with him and ace steel. The rift actually was the reason for the start of collision. That was supposed to be punks show with the guys he liked in a kind of soft brand split. That didn’t end up working out, punk got fired for putting jack Perry in a headlock and aew fans now think he’s satan.
Ethan Sofinowski
2025-01-08 18:02:18 +0000 UTCThanks. I tried googling it but never found anything concrete, just Reddit threads and message boards saying they've not come out with public support like Punk has in the past. Obviously I don't have the same level of access to queer wrestlers that you do. I'm sorry to hear you have to go through shit like that, it fucking sucks that we don't live in a world where people just let people be people. That's kinda bad ass that you're the first openly trans woman graffiti artist though 🤘
aloneinabox
2025-01-08 17:14:50 +0000 UTCA disclaimer and 47 comments? Oh yeah this should be interesting
Christopher Barnes
2025-01-08 16:34:00 +0000 UTCBecause they wanted to hear Josh and Tally's thoughts on what Cornette said about the scrum, same reason anyone submits anything. Though I think it would have been better if they'd seen the scrum first before hearing this
Charlie
2025-01-08 16:32:49 +0000 UTCRight on point! I won't (can't) watch this sh*t again (too much wrestling trauma lol) but it is always important to hear different opinions and learn wrestling history through different eyes. Even if those eyes belong to a sexist, racist and intolerant human being like Cornette.
Varits Vq
2025-01-08 16:08:50 +0000 UTCTony’s face the entire time Punk is talking is CLASSIC 🤣 u guys gotta watch the actual presser at some point. Maybe someone will submit it. As much as the whole situation sucked at the time, this press conference is pure comedy looking back now.
Kam
2025-01-08 14:47:15 +0000 UTCI don't really remember the clip in detail but yes, I agree that the names get tired quick. But...I have to admit that I listen to him so much that I have forgotten the actual character name of Pockets 🙈😅 I get reminded when I watch the shows or play FF. I have many things I don't agree with Jim on, but for me it's easy listening to wrestling history and the second best promo after Heyman. I think it's also an outlet for people that have watched for a long time and been through the bad years. However, I love the Mindy's promo and how Punk spoke directly to those who had been pouring gasoline on the fire with their rumors and the bucks. That's one of my favorite promos. 🧁🧁
Jennifer from Sweden
2025-01-08 14:27:26 +0000 UTCIt’s weird. I like him too. Sometimes. But he was insufferable here. The Hangnail Page and Kenny Olivier and Pockets stuff gets old quick.
Big Ell
2025-01-08 13:00:18 +0000 UTCExactly! The scrum itself!
Big Ell
2025-01-08 12:59:16 +0000 UTCDude the disclaimer was filmed AFTER they had listened, not before.
Big Ell
2025-01-08 12:58:37 +0000 UTCPreface this by saying I'm a big Jim Cornette fan and I listen to his podcast religiously. Well, Cornette hates women's wrestling for the most part. I like women's wrestling more than men's and outside of WWE; Stardom and Marigold are the promotions I enjoy most. I just say all that to say I affirm that not all Cornette fans should be painted with the same brush. You don't have to agree with someone to find validity in their points. I respect his analysis of wrestling higher than just about anyone's though. You were right in thinking this would be a controversial post. No worries, I generally ignore the stuff I'm not interested in, I imagine other adults in the room do too. I respect your opinion if it's not your thing.
John Cowheel
2025-01-08 11:03:35 +0000 UTCNot adding anything, just a thank you for the link! 💖 It was quite horrible to hear, but i remember now hearing him talk about that incident a long time ago. Seems my memory is out of storage and old info is being erased. 😅 🫶🏼🌈
Jennifer from Sweden
2025-01-08 10:22:35 +0000 UTCHave we got any sources for the Bucks being anti-lgbtq+? It'd be really disappointing but I haven't seen any of that having followed their careers for over a decade now (not that it means it couldn't have happened, of course).
aloneinabox
2025-01-08 10:10:10 +0000 UTCHere's the video of Conrette saying the n word where you can clearly see it's him. It happens around 28:20. It's not the exact same video but he is talking about the same incident https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hyHG-QcuPaE I also want to keep this place a positive environment, so I will end this here as well. Thank you for keeping things respectful despite our disagreement. Hope your day is amazing as well.
Drew Or Die
2025-01-08 09:40:38 +0000 UTCAll good bro
Eron Bacchus
2025-01-08 09:36:54 +0000 UTCThe video literally shows me giving Cornette the time of day. And I didn't care for it. It's also not my first time listening to him, so I already had an impression of him going in. As for the EVPs, if you watched the video you'll hear me literally ask what an EVP is, so half the Punk audio I'm assuming he's just talking about the Colt guy that I was given context about from the submitter.
Dport
2025-01-08 09:35:25 +0000 UTCWhy would someone submit this horribleness instead of just submitting the clip from the media scrum?
Aditya
2025-01-08 09:33:39 +0000 UTCDisappointing that you wouldn't give Cornette the time of day lol Punk was swearing, calling Adam Page an empty-headed dipshit, and dumping on the EVPs repeatedly, and you were fine with listening to the scrum clips but had a problem with Jim doing the exact same thing? Seems like you had already made up your mind on Jim before listening. I'm fine with you having your opinion and still love the patreon so no hard feelings ;)
Eron Bacchus
2025-01-08 09:31:58 +0000 UTCYh agree I can't stand him hes annoying I don't find him entertaining each to ur own but I see why at end josh was skipping Jim's bit and just putting punks scrum on
Ryan Evans
2025-01-08 09:14:45 +0000 UTCI enjoyed this video good discussion im with josh cornette i dont mind him in documentaries when he tells a story but his podcast burying everything and calling people names just ain't for me and maybe his accent to me but his voice gives me a headache so yh im not a cornette fan I respect what he's done in wrestling but I don't care about his opinion on modern wrestling the actual press conference was interesting tho and josh do u think Tony Khan should have try and stop punk going off as I think hhh or vince would literally after scrum elite and him and punks freind had a fight in locker room
Ryan Evans
2025-01-08 09:12:50 +0000 UTCYeah, the one with Sonny Kiss was one where he was just out of touch with wording. However, it wasn't transphobic or homophobic. I spoke to so many when that happened, seemed back then that everyone agreed it wasn't actually transphobic or homophobic and moved on. Quite surprised seeing people making a thing out of it on twitter. He's just not informed on those things and when he ask people or people tell him, he is quick to change language. I can't read the Twitter sub comments because I don't support it because of who owns it. I have never heard of the N word rant, and I can't even know that's him. So if there's an actual lengthy video on it, that might be better. Never heard of it. It might be some horrible ish and that he changed. But for all I know, that could be soundclip from a movie or tv series or anything.. so I don't have any context. I don't know what I'm hearing. Please link a lengthy video with as much information as possible. As far as it goes with comparing Kenny etc to Hitler, those were actual funny jokes. He's not saying Kenny & Co are mass murderers, but that they killed the business. It's a joke. Also, they kinda killed the business. 🤷🏼♀️ We know that he wasn't actually threatening Russo. That was twisted by wrestling inc and Russo. The letter revealed what he actually said. This is old ish and I thought nobody cared about that anymore since it was cleared up. I have no idea about the comment about the guy being dressed bad, but it sounds like it would be another joke. Maybe not a fun joke, but not a problematic one. I think the problem is that people don't understand that his show is a work, it's entertainment. Some jokes land and some don't. They are generally quite on the edge but not meant with hate. I don't agree that the other podcasts, huge ones, have not had a much much worse impact. My transphobic radar is very good and the drama about his joke about Sonny Kiss, is taken from nothing. I reacted over the wording but immediately knew he was only out of touch with terms. It's a big difference reading something or listening to it in context. The N word thing is ofcourse bad if it's him and if it's now. If it was in the past, the question is only if he learned not to say it afterwords. I would say it's much worse what thw bucks and others do, because they do it with a hateful intent. All the wrestlers who donated to Trump etc are wrestlers I can't stand. I don't wanna disturb this community with this discussion about who's fascist and who's moved on etc. If you have the link to any lengthy videos though, pls share with me. I won't be discussing it more on here. Hope you're having an amazing day 🙌💖🌈🏳️⚧️🏳️🌈
Jennifer from Sweden
2025-01-08 09:10:38 +0000 UTCJDfromNY is or atleast was one of the bigger wrestling podcasts. I remember he was losong lots of subscribers. There were lots of drama so I don't know who does shows with who nowadays. But that whole group and the group with Disco Inferno, Konnan (even though Konnan is much less hateful) and other old heads, have actively been hateful. It's often that I don't agree with Jim on specific matches or shows, as taste is different. But his knowledge of what works is valuable. Jim might be this big now, but the others channels used to kinda work in synergy with each other, having a totally different effect. Going back to the late 90s boards or early 2000s, there were extremely hateful with lots and lots of open racism. So it's much better now than it was back then. "Wrestling News" shows on youtube are a big problem as they tend to try and put gasoline on flames, mostly running on pure rumors. The young bucks are Christian nationalists. It's been known for some time that they have been anti-lgbtq. They did try the rainbow-capitalism though. Many point to the fact that their father is so extreme on the right, but I don't think that should fall on them. However, the excluding they have done, is not okay. I'm saying this as a former bucks fan. As a loud lgbtq+ activist, I just can't support the bucks and many of the other anti-lgbtq wrestlers. Some who where my idols as a kid. 🤷🏼♀️ I also don't support Brian Last's zionist views, which I've been more than loud about.
Jennifer from Sweden
2025-01-08 08:15:09 +0000 UTCI don't know how anyone can say Jim is a good person. Here is a list of some very horrible things he's said and done •Went on a racist N Word Rant https://twitter.com/ProjectAuuman/status/843903600871067653?s=19 •Compares Kota Ibushi and Kenny Omega to Hitler https://twitter.com/TheJimCornette/status/888089909441032192?s=19 •Sending formal Death Threats via E-Mail to Vince Russo (Think most of us agree Russo is a clown but really? A death threat?) https://www.wrestlinginc.com/news/2010/04/jim-cornette-threatens-vince-russo-527439/ •Homophobic remarks on gay wrestler Sonny Kiss https://www.outsports.com/2019/6/10/18656241/jim-cornette-aew-sonny-kiss-homophobic-comments-apology •Saying former PROGRESS announcer Jim Smallman should be hung over the way he dressed at an event https://www.prowrestlingsheet.com/nwa-jim-cornette-suicide-prevention/#.XdbDn2RGRkw Those are just the things I can think of off the top of my head. I'm not going to defend the Bucks because they have done some shitty things too, but none of their voices are as loud as Cornette's, so his word has spread much farther than anyone else's. Again, Disco Inferno has done some horrible things, but far fewer people have heard of him, so his impact hasn't been the same.
Drew Or Die
2025-01-08 08:09:18 +0000 UTCGod, Jim Cornette fucking sucks
Wade Kruse
2025-01-08 08:06:47 +0000 UTCProblem is Cornette has a wider audience than the other two people you mentioned (one of whom I've not even heard of) so their views aren't going to permeate into the ether as much as someone with a bigger platform. Also, this genuinely coming from a place of curiosity as I've not heard anything like this before - but what makes the Bucks extremists?
aloneinabox
2025-01-08 07:53:19 +0000 UTCI think this comment was very unfair. He's not had 1% the negative impact that nes channels and guys like JDfromNY have had. Disco Inferno and friends.. many who are actually hateful for real and not just for comedy or promos which most of Cornettes schtick is. He's a good human that helps others and cares about the business. Let's not forget that he was one of few public persons defending Punk, which later was proven true. The bucks are problematic in many ways. Backstage bullies, right wing extremists and have excluded wrestlers because of their own personal beliefs.
Jennifer from Sweden
2025-01-08 07:43:57 +0000 UTCAh, thanks for the Disclaimer. As the huge Cornette and CM Punk supporter that I am, I'm gonna skip this one. 😊
Jennifer from Sweden
2025-01-08 07:36:55 +0000 UTCI gave it a chance. His style of entertainment just isn't for me clearly lol if I'm ever in town for a show, I'm checking out Mindy's
Dport
2025-01-08 06:32:35 +0000 UTCUnderstood, by the way if you want a good laugh you should watch the actual press conference someday. The visual of punk covered in dry blood, eating muffins, and ranting is pretty funny 😄
David
2025-01-08 06:32:11 +0000 UTCI just watched the whole thing! Between Cornette, Punk, and Josh, there must have been 100 F bombs. Maybe a NSFW disclaimer would be in order too haha. So the scrum itself was huge news and yes you have to watch him eat the muffins from Mindy’s. This was actually referenced by Drew McIntyre as he actually attempted to visit Mindy’s! Sadly, it was closed. Listening back here, Punk DID say it was closed Mondays and Tuesdays. Funny video though. https://youtu.be/5RdV32UO8_Y?si=idLNYhRQmOdRw0Q3 Overall, I wouldn’t recommend doing this again BUT this wound up very entertaining and I enjoyed the commentary about Cornette and everything else.
Big Ell
2025-01-08 06:31:05 +0000 UTCI got ya. I just wanted to make it clear that I'm not annoyed by him because I think his dumping is biased, I just don't like the dumping, period. That's all. I see what you're saying.
Dport
2025-01-08 06:24:09 +0000 UTCI wasn't a fan of his when I stumbled onto him and don't agree with everything he says or thinks but I've come to enjoy his podcasts/shows twice a week. Yeah, it's not for everyone but he has a lot of insight in the wrestling business. The modern wrestling is not the wrestling he grew up and worked in. I wouldn't call him tribalistic as he craps on both WWE and AEW since he has to watch them for his listeners every week and does breakdowns here and there. Lately it does seem he has become a bit of a WWE fan as he believes HHH and his booking style is more similar to the territory wrestling along with a more modern style. In AEW he likes Powerhouse Hobbs, Takeshita, is 50/50 on Kyle Fletcher and Will Ospreay and loves MJF. He's not a fan of the Young Bucks and Kenny since they used to work in Ring of Honor, pre-Tony Khan, for him back in the day and disrespected him and they believed their way of doing things was better than what he thought. In WWE, he likes Reigns, Orton, Cena, Rhea, Seth when he's serious and sans the gimmick. But yeah, he's not for everyone. He wasn't for me at first but I grew to love his shows and his insight.
Bryan Sem
2025-01-08 06:23:14 +0000 UTCProfessional is not just his life tho man. It's Kenny's too, and it's Hangman's, and it's Punk's It's their business and they all put it in their words. Omega is brilliant when he breaks down wrestling just like Punk is. Just because you think it's playing around from the other side doesn't mean it actually is. Wrestling is an artform, full of completely different colors and actions. I get as much fun out of Terry Funk vs Bret Hart as I do Kota Ibushi vs Yoshihiko the god tier blow-up doll. The point I'm trying to make is that for as entertaining as Jim can be sometimes when he discusses very specific topics? His word is not gospel just because he loves the wrestling business. We all love the wrestling business
Paul Watson
2025-01-08 06:21:20 +0000 UTCOkay but to be fair if a blow up doll works their whole life to compete in this business, who are you or anyone else to gatekeep wrestling from them?
Dport
2025-01-08 06:20:25 +0000 UTCI have no idea😂 When I see a wrestler who all of the online fans say is “the best wrestler in the world” wrestling a blowup doll and a child why would I care? There’s people who will defend both those things too like that matters. If they’re cheering on a possible scenario where a child could get hurt or a “wrestler” wrestling an inflatable blowup doll their opinion holds no water with me. There is family friendly quality wrestling all around the country and the world that attracts normal everyday people, and then there’s the wrestling that drags down the whole sport and makes normal everyday people go “Ughh that fake wrestling crap I don’t want to see that bs who likes that?”
John Coffey
2025-01-08 06:18:54 +0000 UTCYou should know by now beother Yoshihiko don't put anybody over unless they earn it
Paul Watson
2025-01-08 06:17:07 +0000 UTCOh no sorry, you misunderstood I completely agree with you I was saying I could understand why he wouldn’t be everyone’s cup of tea. I more so respect him for historic knowledge not necessarily his views on current wrestling. What I wanted you to take away was more the latter half of my comment regarding punk and the elite.
David
2025-01-08 06:17:01 +0000 UTCI don't have a lot of interest in anyone "dumping" alot on any promotion. It's just not my style and not my form of entertainment. So naturally he isn't going to be enjoyable to me. No big deal.
Dport
2025-01-08 06:14:15 +0000 UTCThat’s completely fair. Jim is nothing if not very, very opinionated. And you bet he’s gonna tell you what he thinks as raw and uncut as it can be. Also I just got to 30:30 That’s great 😂
Gai Valentine
2025-01-08 06:12:29 +0000 UTCI do like Jim, I do respect his knowledge of wrestling history. It should be said he dumps on wwe a lot too as well, He has his own preferences and ideas of how wrestling should be presented but I don’t always agree with him. I will agree he’s very biased against the one side in this story especially. You were probably better off just watching the press conference itself or maybe a more unbiased short documentary on this. All you really need to know this lead to a massive locker room fight between punk and the elite (omega and the bucks). Punk who was injured on this event and suspended and taken off tv. The elite was suspended briefly as well. They never made peace and that eventually lead to more backstage issues, which lead to his firing and return to wwe.
David
2025-01-08 06:12:18 +0000 UTCNo worries. I never assumed everyone who listens to him behaves like him and agrees with every word. I even say multiple times in this video that I do enjoy his story telling ability in videos like "dark side of the ring". But when it comes to listening to him talk in long form, I have no interest. He doesn't seem to be able to make his point without tearing something or someone down, and that's not entertaining to me.
Dport
2025-01-08 06:10:33 +0000 UTCYea i don't think any of that changes anything I said. All i want to know now is whether or not Kenny beat the blowup doll or did the doll put Kenny over.
Dport
2025-01-08 06:07:50 +0000 UTCThat's a big part of Corentte's podcast shit on the modern day product as much as possible, especially AEW. Like you said he knows how he's going to feel before things even happen he already has his mind made up. The online wrestling community had always been toxic but nowhere near what it is today before his podcast got popular. He is by far the loudest voice on that side of things, and the wrestling world is actively a worse place because of it. If Cornette would just stick to wrestling history, where his expertise lies, he would be a much more positive influence. For whatever reason Cornette feels guys like Kenny, The Young Bucks etc are actively hurting the business so to him they are hurting the things he loves more than anything else. If he would just open his eyes and see how much they have contributed to wrestling just because he doesn't enjoy them doesn't mean there aren't millions of people who do.
Drew Or Die
2025-01-08 06:05:45 +0000 UTCCornette has been doing this since he was 15, he’s said on record wrestling is the most important thing in his LIFE. Theres a section of fans who don’t see that part of Cornette and think he’s just bashing all the time. You might not like the language he uses but he’s going to eloquently explain to you in detailed language for hours how this business works. There’s the realities of this business and then there’s the playing around side that’s cropped up in the last 20 years. You probably don’t know this, guess who was one of the first people Tony Khan went to when he started AEW? Cornette. When Cornette talked to him and TK said who he was going into business with Cornette knew not to get involved. When there’s videos out there of Kenny Omega wrestling a blowup doll and then wrestling an underage child I think anyone would second guess working with him or his friends. There’s a minority in this fandom that rewards bad behavior, pushes people to do reprehensible things, and try to set a standard of acceptance that isn’t manageable. Theres a majority of wrestling fans that are either turned off by those people and their actions and personal behavior, or they are unaware it is even happening or they exist.
John Coffey
2025-01-08 05:57:06 +0000 UTCSo, as a dedicated Cornette listener for the past 5 years, “The Cult of Cornette” as the fanbase is called, I feel like it’s important to stress that just like every fanbase, there’s a wide variety of individuals that encompass it. And considering that Jim has the biggest podcast, there’s a whole LOT of us that don’t contribute to the tribalism. And claiming that his whole audience does so is extremely ignorant. That being said, echo chambers exists, so its understandable that people would assume something of an entire group that they’re not apart of and/or are heavily biased against from the beginning. An easy disclaimer for the Cult of Cornette, ironic as it is considering the name of it, would be “The beliefs of Jim Cornette do not represent the beliefs of his entire audience” or something to that effect. The stigmatization pointed towards fans of his is never gonna go away and we’ve come to terms with that, but I feel like as a supporter of yours, I’d like to help clear up a possible assumption. A lot of us still enjoy AEW and other forms of wrestling, ridiculous or not. For example, since it’s very recent, I absolutely loved that Ibushi vs Yoshihiko match. Meanwhile Jim Cornette hates Ibushi with a passion for doing that in a wrestling ring. I also love The Invisible Man vs Invisible Stan. And Kenny Omega is in my Top 3 wrestlers. Anyway, crazy that this was even suggested to begin with.
Gai Valentine
2025-01-08 05:55:04 +0000 UTCAs soon as I saw Cornette on my feed, I instantly wondered how you would view it. I wondered correctly. Like you said, "we're not dumb". The toxic echo chamber in wrestling starts with James E. Cornette. This is who the tribalists get their talking points from. But you already knew that. I commend you and Tally for seeing for yourselves.
City and Local
2025-01-08 05:31:53 +0000 UTCBrother I'm like 10 minutes in and this has become 50/50 for me It's cringe as hell(thanks Jim)but y'all's faces are making me laugh my ass off
Paul Watson
2025-01-08 05:26:23 +0000 UTC👀
Dport
2025-01-08 05:12:28 +0000 UTCWell Just watched your disclaimer Now I'm actually intrigued by this lol
Paul Watson
2025-01-08 05:09:37 +0000 UTC
