Monday Night Wars - Episode 13 - Divas Gone Wild
Added 2024-12-02 21:46:46 +0000 UTCWatch: https://streamable.com/6q5aao
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To me this is one of the more tone deaf episodes of the Monday Night War series. This series came out in 2014, and the next year is when the push for the Women's Revolution really kicked off and went viral online. In this episode they're praising the creation of the diva, and within 2 years of this coming out they'll be praising the end of the diva and giving women a chance beyond just being visual appeal for the audience.
G_Rez
2025-02-19 13:41:53 +0000 UTCI have witnessed your grind. I am impressed with how much you have managed to binge in a short time.
Dport
2025-02-19 09:23:37 +0000 UTCAs someone who is relatively new to the patreon, and a tally tier as of today, thank you for following through on making more collections. Scrolling through the 350+ watchalong playlist on Mobile can be more effort than anticipated
G_Rez
2025-02-19 09:22:46 +0000 UTCAlways is.
Dport
2024-12-08 00:08:50 +0000 UTCTally is spot on.
yeahokgood
2024-12-08 00:06:26 +0000 UTCWomens wrestling really degenerated in america during the late 90s and early 2000s. They would actually wrestle more normally before then, for a multitude of reasons. The talent pool was so low that both WWE and WCW relied on Japanese women for their womens matches. Japanese womens wrestling was lightyears ahead of american womens wrestling, and still better on average. In Japan, wrestling was gender segregated, I'm not sure sure why. But what that did was that the people who wanted to see womens wrestling could watch the womens promotions, and it was very popular and good even in the 80s and 70s. It also made it so that these women were just as good as the men, because they would get to wrestle normal matches multiple times a week. Thats the wrestling that many female wrestlers today study and take inspiration from. The 90s was a golden age for womens wrestling in Japan during the same time that WWE disbanded their womens title.
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2024-12-03 14:28:16 +0000 UTCAnd Brock broke into her house once when they had briefly split.
Steamed Ham Champion Dillon Haggett
2024-12-03 08:28:41 +0000 UTCWell the Sexual stuff for the Woman completely stopped after like 2007, 2008 to 2015 the woman was just nothing more then just mid card jobbers. They treated them like actual wrestlers but they didn’t give them the time in the ring that they deserved
WWE Jay Gaming
2024-12-03 07:55:35 +0000 UTCYh the fans demanded change after that 3 min squash the bellas did to paige and Emma and the 4 horsewoman made wwe change their ways if wasant for them 2 reasons under vince think would have stayed the same just sexuality in wwe then under vince woman had to be blonde with big boobs and good body to succeed thats why gail kim never succeed in wwe butvin tna she was really good tna for long time booked womans wrestling better then wwe
Ryan Evans
2024-12-03 07:50:56 +0000 UTCAfter Edge & Christian split Christian started calling his fans his peeps.
Karen
2024-12-03 05:43:42 +0000 UTCThe joke is still, the head’s name is Head and Al Snow loves head. So it’s only slightly more clever.
Ryan Redd
2024-12-03 04:31:05 +0000 UTCInteresting fact after Sable retired she got married again, to Brock Lesnar. She has not appeared on camera since.
Karen
2024-12-03 04:23:52 +0000 UTCI think we're both pretty good at taking the messenger into consideration with all of these docs, not just MNW. Still interesting to me to hear a perspective, regardless of how perfectly accurate it is.
Dport
2024-12-03 03:12:09 +0000 UTCUnfortunately neither WCW or the additude Era were good for woman's wrestling. Sometimes I think it should be called the t&a Era. They were definitely trying to play to the male 15 to 25 demographic. Sable wasn't the only woman to do playboy, there were multiple divas that did. For some, Playboy was the goal, not a title. And they carefully picked the matches they showed. For every actual match there were multiple bra & pantie or evening gown or wrestling in pudding matches.
Karen
2024-12-03 03:04:50 +0000 UTCAn hour of WWE licking their own asshole about how it was actually really progressive of them to exploit women. lol
Wade Kruse
2024-12-03 02:37:02 +0000 UTCThe obscuring of history in these docs are only matched by the lifeless WWE talent at the time talking with dead eyes speaking a lot but saying nothing. Funny how they missed out the part about how the reason Madussa was free to sign with WCW is that WWF fired her and the entire division. This series is a decent intro to all this stuff, but take everything they say with a grain of salt.
Karl Dutton
2024-12-03 01:01:11 +0000 UTCThe older woman wrestler was The Fabulous Moolah, who (mostly) held the WWF Women’s Title from 1956-1984. She trained a great deal of the female wrestlers during her time. She used her industry power to exploit her trainees (and women’s wrestling in general) for financial and sexual reasons, and early women’s wrestling is rarely discussed because it always comes back to Moolah.
CG
2024-12-03 00:46:36 +0000 UTCI started watching in the early 2010s as a kid there would be ladies in prominent spots, but it was mostly for a relationship angle or a love triangle. There would be matches but they’d be like 5-10 minutes. The Divas revolution was great in bringing the women to the right place on the card but I feel it over corrected in a sense. Now the women’s wrestling fans want every aspect to be on par with the men. Theres a sacrifice in actual quality of matches, storylines, progression of characters, etc for the sake of having everything on an even playing field as the men. This stuff seems obvious to everyone except women’s wrestling fans. There can be an equal balance there and it work amazingly without having to cringe through a spotfest wargames match sloppily put together. I’ve heard this point bandied around somewhat and I agree with it when WWE goes to Netflix WWE should start on making a show exclusively for women that would be 🔥🔥🔥 If yall want some history on the women’s wrestling in the 80s there’s a Dark Side of the Ring on the fabulous Moolah. She trained a lot of women’s wrestlers but also abused them by giving them less money, making them live on her compound, making them have sex with promoters, etc. This lady wasn’t a good lady but she was still held in high regard until the early 2010s. WWE wanted to do a battle royal in honor of her at Mania and all the stuff started coming out about what she did. Industry wide people definitely knew before that but it didn’t get blown up to the level it was until then.
John Coffey
2024-12-03 00:43:19 +0000 UTCThe older woman you paused on at the end was the Fabulous Moolah. They did an episode of Dark Side Of The Ring on her I'm sure will be suggested eventually
Drew Or Die
2024-12-03 00:35:15 +0000 UTCI won't get into it here because what he did is pretty disgusting . But there are plenty of reasons to not like Jerry Lawler you're defiantly not alone in that Tally
Drew Or Die
2024-12-03 00:06:44 +0000 UTCThe Peep Show is like Miz TV, Christian did the Peep Show in WWE as Interviews in the ring
WWE Jay Gaming
2024-12-02 22:32:21 +0000 UTCThat restores some of my faith in humanity. thank you lmao
Dport
2024-12-02 22:29:38 +0000 UTCThe sign that said “I need head” is referencing Al Snow’s gimmick where he would walk to the ring with and use a severed mannequin head.
Gai Valentine
2024-12-02 22:24:14 +0000 UTCThe Woman’s Division in 2014 was basically just Piss Break Matches the stuff they did in the 90s and early 2000s they didn’t do anymore but in the 2010s the Woman was just not relevant at all. Until 2016.
WWE Jay Gaming
2024-12-02 21:54:36 +0000 UTC
