Monday Night War - Ep 9 - Flight of the Cruiserweights
Added 2024-09-30 21:00:07 +0000 UTCComments
The nWo did have a cruiserweight, Syxx aka X-Pac. But he got the sack in 97 and showed up in 98 which you guys saw on the DX episode. Yes that was Vickie. I’m honestly shocked they used a clip that had Benoit in it. Oh hell yeah WWF fans were well aware of WCW wrestlers and vice versa. Casual WWE fans now aren’t using Twitter or other social media and thus are probably not seeing AEW clips.
Steamed Ham Champion Dillon Haggett
2024-11-10 07:52:01 +0000 UTCI think the Vince doc would still be worth while for you two because you don’t know that much about him. For long time fans it’s all stuff we already knew.
Steamed Ham Champion Dillon Haggett
2024-11-09 08:31:48 +0000 UTCI always think “Eddie gets overrated because he died tragically young.” But then I see a match of his again and think “Fuck this guy was so smooth in the ring.” I always loved his rolling senton thing he’d do from the apron into the ring and the tilt a world back breaker.
Steamed Ham Champion Dillon Haggett
2024-11-09 08:30:14 +0000 UTCEddie's my all time fav. Eddie month would be fine by me.
Nate Cruz
2024-10-04 05:21:29 +0000 UTCDude we have to get more Chris hero on this too
Diruroru
2024-10-03 14:08:46 +0000 UTCHey josh will u and tally be doing an aew wrestledream watchalong ppv looks good
Ryan Evans
2024-10-03 11:00:11 +0000 UTCDefinitely not. One of my favs.
Shawnm1chae1sfan
2024-10-03 10:29:53 +0000 UTCI dont think many people would be against an Eddie week lol
Diruroru
2024-10-02 17:02:41 +0000 UTCAwesome to see so much dean malenko on this. Love Perry Saturn as well. Most fans at the time knew the radicalz, they were on the show when wcw was winning in the ratings and most people watched both shows to my knowledge, at least in the USA.
Diruroru
2024-10-02 16:52:11 +0000 UTCOh yeah, the part that made the Monday Night War so intense and exciting was that even your average wrestling fan would often flip between shows during a night, and got very familiar with stars on both shows. So, when a Jericho or Guerrero show up on RAW all of a sudden, a large portion of the audience understood that it was a big deal.
Noct
2024-10-02 02:03:25 +0000 UTCThe reason why smaller wrestlers weren't given as much of a chance as they do now is because being jacked and over 6 feet was such a big deal back then. It was essentially a requirement for your career to truly go anywhere big in America.
''Watch Me Whip Watch Me'' Nanae Takahashi
2024-10-01 22:48:37 +0000 UTCIt's Monday! You know what that means! :D
''Watch Me Whip Watch Me'' Nanae Takahashi
2024-10-01 22:08:47 +0000 UTCWhen the talent is talking about the War in there interview, its nit certain day that there in there interview is pre taped, Eric Bischoff’s interview’s is from 2002 thats why you see a different Raw stage, Arn Anderson’s interview is from either 2010 or 2011 cause i could tell from the raw stage. Eddie Guerrero, 2003, Ted Turner, 1998.
WWE Jay Gaming
2024-10-01 20:54:01 +0000 UTCSome of Bischoff's reasons for not pushing cruiserweights as main eventers: 1. He didn't want to dilute the division's uniqueness, which was a major draw for hardcore fans. I think it's a mix of the bigger is better mentality and him genuinely liking the style. Because he's a huge Ospreay fan. 2. The NWO's overwhelming popularity overshadowed WCW. They were more popular than WCW, even after internet fans turned on them. Bischoff feared hurting NWO's momentum, making it hard for younger talent, including cruiserweights, to rise. This led to storylines like the NWO civil war, which ultimately got stale. 3. The tv station expanded WCW's TV time too quickly due to their success, overwhelming the creative team. This left most midcarders and cruiserweights stuck in matches without storylines or character development, and Bischoff eventually got burnt out and was replaced.
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2024-10-01 17:56:00 +0000 UTCI personally found the Vince documentary interesting even as an old fan. You would learn plenty of new things. Even the screwjob episode which goes into plenty of other topics. For example, one new/interesting parts of the Vince documentary that is relevant to this one is that Vince finally admitted that he lies about feeling like WCW stole his talent and ripped off his ideas. The documentary people asked if he's not being hypocritical. And his answer was basically "I sometimes say things I don't actually believe, as positive affirmation / cognitive reframing and because it benefits my business".
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2024-10-01 16:21:00 +0000 UTCI love luchadores and that style of wrestling but there’s a limit to my enjoyment that has come with what people have done with it the past few years. I love guys like Dragon Lee and Rey/The Lucha Bros over on AEW. They have looks and can make a whole lot of money. I like watching mexican promotions a bit more because the unbelievably of the wrestling is accepted there. Here a really quick lucha match in America will be recieved well but over in Mexico it’ll really get recieved well. That’s due to this style of wrestling being just what they know over there as wrestling. When you get guys doing superhero poses and weird standoffs in the ring after flipping 20 times then you lose me. In Mexico they still try and keep that idea of a contest when people try and adapt that stuff and they are too indie minded it looks like you’re playing 2k24 and just mashing buttons.
John Coffey
2024-10-01 15:25:36 +0000 UTCExcalibur and Jushin Thunder Liger are two different people. Liger is a WWE hall of famer and one if the most popular wrestlers in Japanese wrestling history. He only retired a couple years ago and even made an appearance in NXT for one match against Tyler Breeze. Excalibur has been retired from in ring work since 2006 because he was worried about the amount of concussions he had received and didn't want to get anymore to increase his chances of CTE. As I'm sure your aware he's now lead announce for AEW
Drew Or Die
2024-10-01 09:01:45 +0000 UTCThe Vince doc isn't bad at all. It's just not catered to hardcore fans people who have been around wrestling for a long time didn't really learn anything.For non wrestling fans and newer wrestling fans such as yourselves it's a pretty good doc and if you guys watch it I'm sure you would learn allot not just about VInce but about WWE as it tells the history of WWE throughout the doc. Most of the doc was filmed in 2021 and was supposed to be released last year but was postponed because of the new allegations. So they didn't really have much time to get into the newer stuff
Drew Or Die
2024-10-01 08:34:23 +0000 UTCI'm just an aew heel
Dport
2024-10-01 06:11:30 +0000 UTCIt’s a good doc that details the story of wrestling and WWE as a whole. For someone like you who’s new and doesn’t know much it will still be great.
JaSheesh 2K
2024-10-01 04:11:05 +0000 UTCYes back then was a lot of channel flipping & less Tribalism. You have those that were hardcore for one more than the other but still were knowledgeable as far as talent/stars of the other shows. ECW was more of the outlier since it was on at random times specifically late at night.
cmike5290 .
2024-10-01 00:00:08 +0000 UTCAlso "who's next" is a Goldberg catchphrase. If I spoiled it for you, I apologize in advance
Matthew Harvey
2024-09-30 23:47:44 +0000 UTCYou guys would enjoy the Mcmahon Doc, it just wasn't much new for us hardcore fans. Even so there are some crazy soundbites and details I didn't know.
Karl Dutton
2024-09-30 23:25:28 +0000 UTCYou mentioned on the "podcast" of doing another bad/weird matches week. I think we should do a bad/weird segment/promo week. Because the attitude era has a TON of them like the "choppy choppy your peepee" segment and the mae young gives birth to a hand segment
Matthew Harvey
2024-09-30 23:25:11 +0000 UTCAnd just finished watching and yes that is the RAW stage from 2002-2005 Smackdown had the giant fist
RW____96
2024-09-30 23:23:49 +0000 UTCFor longtime fans I wouldn’t recommend the Vince doc as they won’t really learn anything new. I watched it because I had an interest in just seeing Vince’s insane comments on a few things. For someone like you guys though it gives a decent history of everything wwe. You will probably learn a lot of new things. So it honestly may be worth a watch. I will say this though a lot of the subjects that are covered for just a few minutes in the Vince doc, dark side of the ring does have individual episodes of that go into far more detail.
David
2024-09-30 23:13:56 +0000 UTCJosh you just called AEW Wrestlers "Superstars" I pray for your safety in the comments section🙏
Flair
2024-09-30 22:26:41 +0000 UTCYes that was the same Vickie who missed her cue.
Dylan Thomas Banks
2024-09-30 22:13:29 +0000 UTCI think the Vince doc would be great for new wrestling fans. It doesn't really go into any new territory for wrestling fans that have heard all the stories.
Nicholas Kramer
2024-09-30 21:54:06 +0000 UTCBtw, im not saying because of this you have to watch it. Do whatever you want, but I think people don't realize, a lot of people will watch it just because it's on Netflix, and the hardcore fans aren't the target audience.
ThePersonalities
2024-09-30 21:29:51 +0000 UTCI think the Mr. McMahon doc was disappointing for long time fans, because we knew everything in it. For the average person on Netflix, or newer fans to WWE, they will learn a lot. I also think it was well presented, especially the editing at times, but they only talk about the recent stuff in the last episode because the doc was almost fully filmed already.
ThePersonalities
2024-09-30 21:28:33 +0000 UTCThe Mr. McMahon doc is not a hit piece or a vicious takedown on Vince that people were hoping and expecting. What it is tho, is an excellent documentary to get new fans familiar with the history of WWE. If you want to know how the company began and grew to what it is now and the key players in that, mixed with the controversies that made national headlines in its long history, this is the documentary you want to watch. You should definitely watch it in your own time if you want. Most of us life long wrestling fans who’ve been keeping up with it for years are already familiar with what’s covered.
Gai Valentine
2024-09-30 21:28:17 +0000 UTCSo with the Vince docuseries i would say as someone that has seen it and has been a fan for 20+ years it was not for me i knew most to all things covered so what you heard is most likely from people that knew what happened and it was nothing new but for newer fans like yourselves it is worth the watch as some things that will most likely not get mentioned on here or anything WWE has produced
RW____96
2024-09-30 21:26:06 +0000 UTCJushin Thunder Liger (The one with the big crazy mask) ist not Excalibur. You have seen Liger in the PWG match with the slow motion sequence. There have also been some New Japan matches where you saw him sitting at commentary table where probably the confusion with the current AEW commentator Excalibur comes from.
Markus Ruoff
2024-09-30 21:19:04 +0000 UTCseeing Rey has got me thinking about how many ex WCW wrestlers are still actively wrestling. There’s Rey, AJ Styles, Chris Jericho, Jeff Jarrett, Dustin Rhodes, La Parka, Christopher Daniels (kinda), and there’s probably a few more i’m missing.
Will Humphries
2024-09-30 21:14:01 +0000 UTC
