Kurt Angle Vs. Brock Lesnar - WWE Championship (WrestleMania 19)
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He didn't break his neck because it was so muscular.
Steamed Ham Champion Dillon Haggett
2024-09-23 15:15:04 +0000 UTCKurt was nearly on the other side of the ring. Its insane Brock hit him at all and didn't just face plant
Steamed Ham Champion Dillon Haggett
2024-09-23 15:14:02 +0000 UTCAwesome! How lucky!
Steamed Ham Champion Dillon Haggett
2024-09-23 15:12:49 +0000 UTCAlso helps he was 25 at the time, arguably at his peak.
Steamed Ham Champion Dillon Haggett
2024-09-23 15:11:36 +0000 UTCWas thinking the same thing
Karen
2024-09-22 02:09:16 +0000 UTCShooting Star Press not the Moonsault.
Steamed Ham Champion Dillon Haggett
2024-09-21 10:06:11 +0000 UTCGreat to see this show up. It’s the main event of my favourite WrestleMania and was the first time two guys using their real names main evented WrestleMania. They say Brock didn’t break his neck or die because it was so muscular. I don’t know how Brock didn’t think to go to the other corner where Kurt was lying. One thing Sergio didn't mention is that Brock is only 25 years old in this match and had made his debut just over a year prior on the post WrestleMania X8 Raw. Cole started losing his voice after calling Hogan vs Vince earlier in the show.
Steamed Ham Champion Dillon Haggett
2024-09-21 10:04:32 +0000 UTCOn his podcast, Angle said Brock asked if he should try the SSP again after he missed, but he was clearly concussed, so Angle said to just hit another f5 and end the match.
ARA3
2024-09-20 21:44:29 +0000 UTCYou mentioned Brock looking faster than you had ever seen before. It's true, early on he was very athletic, tried to do a lot of fast transitions and crazy bumps. You saw that he used to do Shooting Star Presses occasionally even though he missed this one. Paul Heyman is the reason he stopped. When paired together Heyman told him basically 'You're a big powerful bastard, you should not be going to the top rope. You should not be chain wrestling with these people. You should just be using your power to destroy them'. So Brock changed his style to be similar to what we see now and then once he returned from UFC he really encouraged MMA in it more as well.
Zach Faulkner
2024-09-20 05:09:05 +0000 UTCCrazy enough that a near 300 pound sack of muscle can do a shooting star press but how brock survived landing straight on his head with no permanent damage is beyond me.
Sam Tolan
2024-09-20 01:07:22 +0000 UTCI think we might be from the same country haha
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2024-09-19 22:14:56 +0000 UTCYou should react to Chris Jericho vs Shawn Michaels on the same show. Wrestlemania 19 had a bunch of great matches, but they stole the show. It's my favorite match.
Brian Vivian
2024-09-19 20:30:33 +0000 UTCThis was the first mania I watched when it started being downloadable in was decent quality back then. WWF stopped Iring early 94 here. At first when that happened to Brock , I thought I just watched someone die in the ring. He had some luck on his side there. It was fun to watch this with you, your reactions are fun as always. 🩷✌️🌈
Jennifer Lindgren
2024-09-19 17:39:19 +0000 UTCYou could tell!! It almost immediately went into "send it home boys" mode lol
Tallywags
2024-09-19 17:39:15 +0000 UTC🤣
Tallywags
2024-09-19 17:38:21 +0000 UTCJohn Cena told Brock "To get a concussion, you need a brain"
Christopher Barnes
2024-09-19 17:01:53 +0000 UTCHey josh and tally I was just listening to stevie richards podcast and they were talking about finishers being protected and just being kicked out at once a year like say mania all in wrsstlekingdom and u do other stuff to try win matches if u can't hit ur finisher I think u should kick out few times year but in aew it everyweek the most protected finisher in aew is omega angel wings in aew no ones ever kicked out of itbthink one might put foot on rope after I think that should be used more to protect finishers do u guys agree with richards that finishers only kick out at the biggest show then it means something
Ryan Evans
2024-09-19 15:46:30 +0000 UTCCornette has told his story of watching this live and freaking out from that moonsault. He trained Brock in OVW and had seen him do the moonsault before. When Cornette saw him going up and Angle laying there he said “Kurt is too far out Brock is gonna miss this” and he just got short of him and you saw what happened.
John Coffey
2024-09-19 15:28:38 +0000 UTCNot gonna lie. I'm on my break at work and I just watched you say "Gotta be an elbow drop." and I done spit my milk I was drinking all over my pants lol.
Chad
2024-09-19 12:15:53 +0000 UTCI was more impressed when I thought he did break his neck doing that shooting star press and still having the ability to kick out of a pin and improvise an F5 for the win. Then I learned that his neck wasn't broken and that he was only concussed. Not saying that it still wasn't impressive, either way, its unbelievable that he had gotten to his feet almost immediately after a crazy stunt gone wrong like that
Daniel Carpio
2024-09-19 08:56:40 +0000 UTCBrock was concussed but he kept wrestling even with a concussion with no time off to let his brain heal. That's toughness.
Flynn Vicci
2024-09-19 04:08:27 +0000 UTCBenoit was in the SmackDown Tag Title match at WM 19 (Team Angle vs Los Guerreros vs Benoit/Rhyno). He was out for his neck for 18.
Adam Nelson
2024-09-19 03:08:17 +0000 UTCI was actually at this event. My first live show.
Karen
2024-09-19 02:12:57 +0000 UTCBenoit was also out with a bad neck. He watched 19 from one of the boxes.
Karen
2024-09-19 02:11:57 +0000 UTCThe only reason Brock wasn’t seriously hurt, outside of a concussion, was because his neck and shoulder muscles were so thick that they cushioned most of the impact to his neck bones. There’s a backstage clip taken after the match of Brock being swarmed by doctors and freaking the fuck out because he’s a notorious introvert, concussed, and terrified that he just broke his neck at the age of 26.
Ryan Redd
2024-09-19 02:09:06 +0000 UTCAlso in Brock’s OG run from 02-04 he was a much more dynamic of a wrestler. Had a much more diverse move set and had the hunger imo. There’s a reason they had him take the title from The Rock within his first 6 months in the company 😁
Woozie
2024-09-19 01:51:16 +0000 UTCI was busting up when you said “it’s gotta be an elbow drop” and then immediately had your jaw dropped for the rest of the match 😂 hope we can get their iron man match on Smackdown in the queue sometime!
Woozie
2024-09-19 01:49:25 +0000 UTCThis match should not have been good. Kurt walked into it with a neck basically held together by duct tape and Brock damn near paralyzed himself at the end. These guys are seriously two of the best athletes in WWE history.
Ryan Redd
2024-09-19 01:20:51 +0000 UTCKurt's really lucky to have wrestled that match as he had broken neck think nowadays wwe wouldn't let someone wrestle with broken neck I heard angle say on his show that wwe was gonna do benoit vs brock at mania if angle couldn't make the mania match
Ryan Evans
2024-09-19 01:04:34 +0000 UTCThe clips I've seen of Brock hitting the Shooting Star Press had his opponent at a similar distance. Kurt being closer might have helped some, but under-rotation was the bigger problem.
Adam Nelson
2024-09-18 23:38:47 +0000 UTCI think Kurt was too far away as well. I feel like if he woulda rolled in towards the turnbuckle Brock could’ve focused more on the height of the move rather than getting distance.
Kam
2024-09-18 23:36:12 +0000 UTCThe infamous Shooting Star Self Piledriver. He had hit the SSP before, but not at the end of such a long match. From what I understand, the top rope was also slippery from sweat. The SSP was supposed to be the finish and Brock was fuzzy enough that Angle had to talk him through the improvised finish.
Adam Nelson
2024-09-18 23:32:40 +0000 UTCProb there summerslam match was there best singles match I really enjoyed there iron-man match on sd in 03 mania was a good match tho I heard angle say on his podcast as brock didn't know where he was as just had a concussion when I pick u up hit me with the f5 and we finish the match
Ryan Evans
2024-09-18 23:05:24 +0000 UTCYeah, he never did the shooting star press again.
Kam
2024-09-18 22:49:20 +0000 UTChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_0rJ8wcANRc Here is a video of Brock actually hitting the Shooting Star Press. I believe that is the last time he attempted that lol.
Nicholas Kramer
2024-09-18 22:32:55 +0000 UTCDefinitely not my favorite match between these two but it's still enjoyable. Brock's first run in the company lasted from 2000 to 2004 (he was in developmental (Ohio Valley Wrestling) from 2000 to 2002) and was on the main roster from 2002 until Mania 20. He didn't compete in MMA until 2007, but he was in UFC by the next year. There's a compilation of Brock hitting the Shooting Star Press on YT before this match so he can do it around this time but probably hasn't done it in a year at least. He got a concussion off of that move and if his neck wasn't crazy big, the injury probably would've been worse. Kurt got surgery on his neck after this but opted for an alternative surgery rather than having discs removed and his vertebrae fused. He was able to come back after only three months away instead of a year but that was a short-term solution and his neck problems quickly came back. Kurt actually broke his neck during the 1996 Olympic Trials and I don't believe he got surgery for it until after this match.
Kidd Kingpin
2024-09-18 21:50:00 +0000 UTCApparently Brock somehow didn't break his neck with that botch but he was very much concussed afterwards
prototype27
2024-09-18 21:38:25 +0000 UTCBrock hit the shooting star press many many times in practice, it was just kind of a freak accident. But yeah pretty sure he didn’t do it much if at all after that.
Ethan Sofinowski
2024-09-18 21:37:20 +0000 UTCSo back when Brock was in OVW (WWE’s developmental before NXT) in 2002, he would regularly pull off perfect Shooting Star Presses. You can find videos of it on YouTube. When this match happened, it had been a few years since he even attempted one and he was pressured into doing it even tho he wasn’t sure if he could still pull it off, and that horrifying sight you witnessed was the result. You could see how anxious he was when he was standing on the top rope. But Brock being at the peak of human condition at this time, was able to push through being knocked for a loop and finish the match with an improvised F5, concussion and all.
Gai Valentine
2024-09-18 21:33:46 +0000 UTCHe never tried the shooting star again but he ABSOLUTLY can do it. Or could. he did it in training before fully debuting and I belive he hit it during a dark match in his first few months
Jordan Amos
2024-09-18 21:31:20 +0000 UTCClassic great match
Ryan Evans
2024-09-18 21:02:55 +0000 UTC
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