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Example Draft of "North America" section of the Book

Here is an example draft that I prepared on google slides for the Oblivious Publisher that hired me to do a book for them. I prepared this so that they could have an idea of what photos would be going in the book. This is the section for "North America", focusing on some of my favorite taxa and themes. There are still sections for Chile, Brazil, Dominican Republic, South Africa, West Australia, NAmibia, New Zealand, Tasmania.

Working with this publisher has been hell. They have been incommunicado. Back in spring, I would send them an email and not hear anything for three or four weeks. It was like working on a project with someone who never comes into the studio and is an alcoholic. I would ask for clarity about what they were expecting or how to send in photos and how to assign them to certain pages for layout, as well as how to assign photos to the text, and they gave me absolutely no instruction on how they wanted it prepared. The publication date has already been pushed back and these idiots have already paid the advance, so fuck 'em. The one person that I am in contact with there is kind and cool, but she was initially under instruction not to correspond with me because she was new. To add to the frustration, nobody working there has any literacy regarding botany/biology/plants.

Not knowing what to do, I wrote a manuscript and turned it into 7 months ago. To this day it has still not been read. I then went through the manuscript, found photos that accompanied the regional write-ups, renamed the photo files to have the genus and species name of the plant species mentioned, and told the editor that whoever is doing the layout should read the manuscript and then find the photos of the plant species mentioned in it, and then take their pic of which photos to use according to which ones will fit best into the layout.

None of this was done, Instead, they came back at me three weeks ago telling me that I need to sort through the photos myself and pick what photos go on what page, etc. , I responded and told them that if Im supposed to do this, then I should be the one to do the layout on indesign, which I would have to charge them additional money for, since I am swamped over my head with shit to do and I don't work for free. They have not yet responded.

It became clear to me that the only way that this book is going to work is either if I do the layout myself on indesign (very time-consuming), or they hire somewhat who is at least semi-literate in biology/science/nature to do the layout so that they know where things go and what photos are what (or even, what a genus and species are for chrissakes, or that the latin name of a plant is italicized). The person they currently have doing the layout is some french guy who makes things look nice but as far as I can tell has no background in nor awareness of natural science whatsoever.

 This is taking far too much time for what it is. I design presentations weekly. This book is, in effect, just one very large powerpoint presentation. It shouldn't be hard, but they have not given me a clear idea of what they want or how to do it and they are not paying me enough for the amount of vague unclear bullshit involved. It's quite likely that the people on the ground who are working at the publisher are overworked and short-staffed, too.

What the fuck do I do? Take a look at the material here, which is lacking text (the text is far too long to have included in this example, which is to focus solely on photos of the subject matter) and let me know.

i'm working on another book, and whenever I need to talk to the editor, she responds the next day. Working with the publisher for this book has been a fucking nightmare. A fucking underpaid, life-consuming nightmare.

Comments

Hiring a freelance designer is something you could suggest to them. It would take work up front, but finding and suggesting a specific person you find (via a platform like Upwork or even via a tentative call for cover letters or DMs on Youtube/instagram/reddit/wherever) would make the publishers job easier assuming their main barrier is effort/time. It would also allow you to find someone who shares the passion.

Nick Geeslin

That sucks the publisher is a pain. I'm not familiar with working with publishers so I don't know who's supposed to be doing what aside from what you've written or talked about, so I'll keep to the formatting. I like the layout of the sections, having an explanation immediately after the title is nice. It might just be because there's no foreword or table of contents, but are the different sections supposed to relate to each other or is it just explaining different evolutionary strategies plants have evolved? It may be helpful to draw similarities to different sections either at the end of the chapter or in each section. It could also be helpful to standardize the font size of the section titles, it could clear up some of my confusion on whether or not the sections are subsections or totally separate (for the purpose of the book anyway) After the pictures are finalized it's probably worth numbering them and referencing the numbers in the caption (or something similar). What's on page 10 "Top left & Middle Left L Epithelantha micromeris blends in with the limestone it grows in, but its fruits are bright red so as to be noticed by the birds that disperse the seeds, Cactus Family, Cactaceae. Bottom two and Mid Bottom : Ariocarpus scaphirostris has tubercules that mimic the shale rock that it grows in. Cactus Family, Cactaceae." is another good option but could get confusing with pages with more than 6ish species/ subjects.

Tyler Rasp

Damn. That's a ton of cool photos though!

Lud.

The photos are amazing, but the situation seems like some bullshit. Can you walk? It sounds like the publisher is only really providing production and distribution. Could you self publish or license out a finished book to a publisher? I feel like you know enough amazing people to put together a book that's a real labor of love.

Katherine Scott

A personal story for context/warning: I helped rewrite a local hiking guide up here in Oregon and it was my job to expand and modernize the plant list. We worked with the local university press (first mistake) and after I had compiled a list of 200 plants and updated all their binomials to current standards, the students at the press decided they wanted to illustrate every plant and I had to cut it back down to about 30 plants, less than the original book. I double-checked with them about my wish to use the most common local folk names to maintain the regional character of the guidebook, and they confirmed that was okay. To my chagrin, when the book was published, I found they went through and "corrected" the scientific names to those of plants far outside our region or even country which simply happened to have the same or similar folk name as the common name I provided. So painful. I was almost relieved when it turned out they didn't even include the rewriting teams' names in the credits.

Kira Taylor

I feel this frustration. It's definitely time consuming and thankless work staying on the publisher and trying to make sure the book comes out as close to what's in your head as possible. But then again, it's better than not doing that work and regretting what gets published.

Kira Taylor

Thanks a lot, this is helpful. Absurd that they never instructed me on any of this!

Anthony J Malone

I sent them 80,000 words of manuscript and they haven't even read it yet.

Anthony J Malone

If you aren't going to typeset it, you cannot assume that the publisher will match up the photos with your text. Here's how to handle that. As you write the text (or after you write it), find a place in your text where a photo should go & place the complete file name of that photo in square brackets [Pentachaeta1.tif] either within the referring sentence or after it. Then the typesetter will know the name and (roughly) where that photo should go. Next time you're out here (OC or SD in so Calif), Mike S & I can meet you for lunch and make many more suggestions.

Bob Allen

The author must write everything theirselves, don't rely on the publisher/company to do any of it. They might proofread the final text for grammar, but only *after* you get several fellow botanists to proofread the science.

Bob Allen

I hear your frustration. I produced a 500 page book about wildflowers of Southern California (you've probably seen it). To say that the publisher was a nightmare is an understatement. I even typeset it myself. They had their own book designer, who dug my layout and had only 2 minor changes to it. The author *should* always be the one to select the photographs.

Bob Allen

It all respect, all photos are beautiful...but they are to much...you have to choose the ones that are really perfect to show with the writing...unless is a book only the photos, for that you need a design for sure

Ana Rita

This isn’t the rail cut book, is it?

Nick Gully

Those photos are fantastic, really great capture of the plant in it’s environment.

Nick Gully

New word! chrissakes. Sounds like a pain in the ass, but knowing that you will persevere I hesitate to give any condolence. Why pray tell? Cause I love to listen to you gripe- your tongue is sharp and silver and your mind is like an ax that will split anything before it. I’m sure it will pan out and you’ll be able to pick the gold from black sand.

Spooner

Bummer, that's sounds like a shit show. This example is very good though so hopefully it works out as it will be a stunning book

Ryan Gray

I'm so glad you're including the fasciated, 'old man' loph I remember marveling at in one of your previous videos. Sorry the publisher's not working with you accordingly, sounds very stressful. Also, I hope Jack is doing okay. Been seeing a lot of young Jack in some of these short vids recently, and it has me a little concerned...

Jacob


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