Supplementary Material 13: Dead Bears, Biblical Stories, and Coffeezilla's Legal Battle
Added 2024-08-14 09:07:34 +0000 UTCWe reflect on the meaning of some biblical scriptures to understand the gurus, alongside:
Jonathan Pageau gets into the Olympics
RFK Jnr. and the Dead Bear
Guru Dystopia: Trump Meets Adin Ross
Eric Weinstein enters the 2024 Campaign
The penetrating insights of Joe Rogan
Coffeezilla fights back against Logan Paul's defamation case
Litigious Musk and nuisance lawsuits
Celebrity cryptocurrencies, NFTs, and other scams
Flashbacks to Simon Singh vs. The British Chiropractic Association
Elon Musk's Interview with Jordan Peterson
Jordan Peterson's interview 'techniques'
All Meat Diet Proselytising
Musk vs. the Sumo Champion
The incredible confidence of self-help gurus
The importance of 'smarts' in success
The meaning of the Zacchaeus story
Links
Coffeezilla - I got scammed for $1,000,000 (about his indemnity insurance)
The Horrific Clip of Trump meeting Adin with Hasan's commentary
New Yorker: What Does Robert F. Kennedy, Jr., Actually Want?
Comments
Every time I hear Jordy Jordy Beep Beep speak I get a goddam nosebleed.
Paul Ditta
2025-01-09 12:13:02 +0000 UTCThe more I hear Jordan's manic attempts to pantomime profundity, the more I appreciate someone like Sagan who managed to communicate, in a habitually simple and humble way, genuinely profund perspectives on human existence. The Pale Blue Dot speech alone is more of a contribution to humanity than all of Peterson's output combined.
Devin Poore
2024-08-20 18:33:48 +0000 UTCNo. I would not pick this time Jordan.
Julie
2024-08-20 12:15:08 +0000 UTCThat was the one I new to. Poor Zach would probably prefer to be described as bad rather than 'wee'.
Emma
2024-08-20 11:37:45 +0000 UTCI much prefer these โgreatest shitsโ short segments to the longer decoding sessions of late, mainly because the vocalising of the decoded has been pretty awful of latelate. Now 2.5
john statham
2024-08-18 13:43:46 +0000 UTCThe Zacchaeus song was interesting. It (appropriately) placed a lot of emphasis on Zachaeus's social sins. The version I learned went like this: "Zachaeus was a wee little man and a wee little man was he etc". I like your version better.
Sonje Finnestad
2024-08-18 02:17:12 +0000 UTCRegarding the discussion of the intelligence of the gurus - how did eric weinstein get his degrees in physics? Can you really BS your way through a physics PhD? Academics, please offer some insights.
Charlie Friedberg
2024-08-18 02:14:40 +0000 UTCI think that nobility of character, which often meant one's pedigree, was more highly prized in the past than today. During the reign of Louix XIV, being able to dance well determined where one sit in the hierarchy. And being a well-rounded person (Renaissance man) was far more important than being a specialist in any one thing, which was viewed as lower class. I agree with Matt that cultures will value different traits or skills, depending on who has power and influence at the time. My American students are confused to learn that the English, for a long time, looked down on people who improved themselves through their own efforts since Americans view this ability as a virtue.
Linda Sears
2024-08-16 19:09:28 +0000 UTCI also heard this comparison, and nearly mentioned it here. But I'm a SE English Brit, and I pronounce 'o' in 'comma' ever so slightly differently to the american, to me it's like saying cahma. So, that's why I posted the link! Some small allowance for accents maybe? Bloody vowel shift.
Matt
2024-08-16 13:05:22 +0000 UTCSomeone the other day said this, and now I always remember: Comma-la. Chris needs to listen again. But after years of hearing Winesteen instead of Winestine I'm not holding my breath on this. ๐
Suzan Lemont
2024-08-16 12:58:00 +0000 UTCThe last reference I ever expected was the Zachaeus song
Infinite Guff
2024-08-16 08:20:11 +0000 UTCIn a way I love the W brothers because in their own ways they perfectly characterise the conspiratorial mindset. Just wonderful exemplars of what not to do
Guruspod 2
2024-08-15 21:26:35 +0000 UTCItโs kind of half-formed thought so I probably shouldnโt have brought it up. But to clarify, itโs kind of a trivial point that people thought about things differently then. For example, love and marriage are approached very differently in contemporary times compared to various historical cultures. There isnโt like a 1-1 correspondence between our concepts and theirs. Naturally they thought about cleverness back then โ figures could be thought of as wily, wise, inspired, etc. But our culture has universal education, and academic proficiency is a kind of necessary technocratic virtue in modern society, in a way that hasnโt always been the case. Accordingly, intelligence in the modern sense has been the subject of scientific and pseudo-scientific investigation, and bits and pieces from that occupies a place in the zeitgeist. Simultaneously, as careful researchers struggle with defining and measuring this thing we call intelligence in machines and animals, we realise our definitions are not as clear-cut as we might like. But the public perception of it as an โimportant thingโ has reified it in a way, that I think speaks more to culture than science. Itโs all a bit complicated, so sorry if that just confuses things more!
Guruspod 2
2024-08-15 21:25:13 +0000 UTCChris' singing was a wonderful respite after suffering through even more of JBP's intergalactic ramblings!
Reinert
2024-08-15 19:06:01 +0000 UTCKAH-malah
David Noble
2024-08-15 18:31:21 +0000 UTCJordan's little "And Joshua has the same name as Jesus btw, this is very significant" aside shows how he approaches the Bible in a theological way. He sees it as a single text, inspired by God (either the traditional theist version, or his bespoke definition of God) instead of a collection of books written by different people over the centuries. That name isn't foreshadowing, Jesus is in fact the Greek version of Joshua which was a common Jewish name. It's like saying that William the Conqueror's name foreshadowed William Shakespeare also being an important figure in English history.
Ben Godek
2024-08-15 18:25:12 +0000 UTCHe seems to read at a grade school level.
Ben Godek
2024-08-15 18:18:24 +0000 UTCThis is a simplistic perspective. But it seems like this lot have "intelligence", however, their emotional intelligence and humility are low. Conversly their narcissism and grandiosity are high, with a propensity for apophenia. ๐คทโโ๏ธ๐ซ
Lys
2024-08-15 12:23:46 +0000 UTCHeโs a fan of Jason Staylin and Beni Muskolini
Idan Ca
2024-08-15 09:59:23 +0000 UTCElongated Muskrat?
Roscoe 112
2024-08-15 02:53:14 +0000 UTCI like these supplementary eps Itโs like Chris is a wide eyed 12 year old coming back from the zoo, telling his favourite schoolteacher about all the crazy animals he saw. Mattโs stoic, understanding yet mildly exasperated tone. Yes Chris, I mean, it is a zoo. Not all the animals are cute and cuddly.
Chris Clark
2024-08-15 02:31:27 +0000 UTCWith the whole discussion about intelligence and history, one thing I was wondering is if Matt would actually just really discuss the specific part of intelligence that he thinks is distinctive to how we see intelligence today. I think a lot of people donโt even agree on what intelligence is. Maybe they do in certain academic circles but Iโm talking about general social ideas.
JGraves
2024-08-15 01:29:09 +0000 UTCElon and JP; the melted mind meld.
Tim Tripp
2024-08-15 00:39:58 +0000 UTCI never studied Abrahamic theology, but listening to Peterson is/was torture for me too. I don't understand how Chris does it.
lun
2024-08-14 22:49:43 +0000 UTCThe behind the bustards people thought so!
Emma
2024-08-14 21:51:41 +0000 UTCIs Aidan Ross a fahh-cyst? Or is he just a far-right ultra-analyst?
Sean Doody
2024-08-14 21:23:05 +0000 UTCAs a guy who's studies Abrahamic theology, listening to Jordan Peterson ramble on in a semi educated fashion was torture. BTW, his reference to Aaron as the "political wing" is really telling about his underlying ideology. Aaron was the first head priest of the Mosaic priesthood. Dark enlightenment type figures will frequently refer negatively to "Kritarchy", or rule by the Mosaic priesthood, and analogize it negatively to the modern state Civil service, who they consider to be a priesthood. So he is making this elaborate show of piety while underneath betraying the radical ideology, which tends towards deceptive nihilism, and is deeply impious at its core.
John Smith
2024-08-14 19:44:22 +0000 UTCHe's said different things about the brain worm at different points - so hard to know if it's even true he has one. He has had absurd, verifiable illnesses from eating roadkill though
OR
2024-08-14 19:17:40 +0000 UTCIs this a possible reason for the dead worm in his brain?
Linda Sears
2024-08-14 19:15:10 +0000 UTCThis fascist segment with Ross is the stupidest thing I've heard in the podcast today! But the episode is still young..
James P.
2024-08-14 18:37:55 +0000 UTCFigures like the brothers Weinstein, Peterson & Co. are the stupid's person idea of smart person. They are cosplaying intellectuals
Andreas Singer
2024-08-14 18:37:43 +0000 UTCWhen Matt was reading Ericโs tweet about how the country was actually being governed by a small group that was formed around Biden, rather than Biden himself, I immediately thought โSo like the cabinet?โ Eric managed to invent a dumb conspiracy-brain version of a president having a cabinet. Amazing.
Ben Godek
2024-08-14 18:06:47 +0000 UTCTo add to the RFK nonsense, he has a longstanding addiction to trying exotic meats, causing hi. constant illness, which then led to him progressing to eating any roadkill he found when he was on drugs in his 20s. He would keep it in his despairing housemates' fridge. So the bear story is both doubly ridiculous and very on-brand.
OR
2024-08-14 16:24:00 +0000 UTC"the problem is, they won't stop".... EXACTLY!!!! Will keep the podcast going though!
Sam D.
2024-08-14 15:19:59 +0000 UTC'His spirit was distinguished, wise and prudent; his mind was brave and resolute, and never, even at moments of greater danger, deserted him. He had a most pertinacious memory; he was not devoid of scholarship.' Vergil (about 1513) on Henry VII.
Nina Davies
2024-08-14 14:56:38 +0000 UTCThis was so funny! It made me laugh out loud while doing my housework. Also it made me think I remember the days when people thought us vegans were weird. But the carnivores have really left us in the dust on the eccentricity scale. If anyone ever tells me it's weird to be vegan I'm gunna play them this clip of Jordan Peterson very pompously ordering Elon Musk to live on nothing but beef to fix his wrestling injury. Comedy gold!!!
Emma
2024-08-14 11:07:25 +0000 UTC(Joining Coffeezillas patreon might be a simpler for some.)
LethargicLad
2024-08-14 10:16:00 +0000 UTCThe Right Wing going off at the Olympic Opening Ceremony was delicious. Notice the Closing though? Nary a peep. Toddlers
john statham
2024-08-14 09:37:56 +0000 UTCYooooo. I'm away on for work right now and hotel tv sucks. Very timely fellas.
Kyle
2024-08-14 09:35:06 +0000 UTCI've only watched mere seconds of the Coffeezilla youtube video, but had to laugh at the opening lawyer attack line 'the man isn't even a PROPER journalist!!?'. More Alan than Partridge, more Poundshop than Prime.
Lord Brannigan-7
2024-08-14 09:22:13 +0000 UTCRight on!!!! Waking up to SM#13at 3am!! Good times!!
Julie
2024-08-14 09:20:17 +0000 UTCKamala pronunciation explainer ^
Matt
2024-08-14 09:17:43 +0000 UTChttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XYkZkpLQUS0
Matt
2024-08-14 09:15:25 +0000 UTC
