Dr. K (Part 2): Rhetorical Judo Flips
Added 2024-07-07 22:38:33 +0000 UTCJoin Matt and Chris as they continue to navigate the complex and occasionally controversial world of Dr. K in this multi-dimensional second episode. This time they take a look at some more recent content and consider whether they were wrong to identify Dr. K as such a strong advocate of Ayurveda. To do so we look at the science of visualisations, some updated genomic information about the Doshas, and the power of mantras to bend the universe.
We also look at the lively discussion between Dr. K and another famous YouTuber, Dr. Mike, which illustrated some classic alternative medicine debates. The episode explores themes like the power of consciousness, personalized treatments, and the placebo effect. And as a result, it ends up, as it always does, with Chris and Matt politely discussing their disagreements about the mind and the mystery of subjective experience... sorry!
So join for a thought-provoking ride through scientific criticism, holistic practices, and the age-old East vs. West medicine debate as we decipher whether Dr. K is a modern-era internet sage synthesising a new approach to therapy or just a charismatic storyteller and alternative medicine advocate.
Comments
The New York Times did a piece on Dr. K yesterday.
Jill Simmons
2024-08-08 09:11:43 +0000 UTCDestiny finally recognising who’s actually Triggered in Triggernometry….
Brainbiter
2024-07-16 06:37:06 +0000 UTCYes, not to mention that having a particular physique does a great deal to make one better in basketball or body building.
Linda Sears
2024-07-14 12:26:20 +0000 UTCAnd all three root in the fact that he's extremely charismatic, naturally gifted physically, has a crazy work ethic and is ambitious. All of which don't make him a better person, it's just plain to see. It's like saying Michael Jordan was good at basketball because he just really wanted it more than anyone else. That's how a toddler sees the world, or a shounen anime. There's a ton of people who probably wanted and deserved it way more than Arnold or Michael Jordan and when they were on the brink of defeat some mysteries power didn't awaken in them at the last second. They just failed and were forgotten. The world isn't a movie or a video game and seeing it like one doesn't help
PaulBFB
2024-07-14 10:56:30 +0000 UTCExcellent analysis
aneladgam_varelse
2024-07-14 09:31:59 +0000 UTCYes, I think the need to be in control is all over - and defines - his whole format online. He interacts solely with people who know less than him, aren't on equal footing (hence the therapy session "interviews " with streamers or members of his community). He is always in the expert role. The interview with Dr. Mike is a rare instance of dialoguing with someone who might have had more expertise to challenge him. Hence why we see the all out rhetorical judo moves. And of course that was evident in the clip with his wife. She was approaching the stream from a place of equal footing and he HAD to cut her down. Sadly I have seen many people in the therapy profession just like this (I had a former career in the field) - just without the scope of Dr K. That tendency to pull out the therapy moves when feeling threatened or losing an argument- so toxic.
Sam D.
2024-07-14 05:05:25 +0000 UTCThe main reason Arnold Schwarzenegger became the governor of California is because he was a well-known Hollywood actor. The reason he became a Hollywood actor is because he was a famous body builder. These were not three independent career paths that he visualized his way into. They were connected.
Linda Sears
2024-07-12 23:09:14 +0000 UTCYes, Dr K is a skilled rhetorician. But not in the Destiny way - which is more like Shotokan Karate. Judo flip is the right analogy, because Dr K's mastery of rhetoric is focused on Kairos - "In rhetoric, kairos is "a passing instant when an opening appears which must be driven through with force if success is to be achieved."" - i.e. switching movement, back, forth, sideways, diagonal, until you sense the opponent momentarily lose their balance - and then the momentary opening for the throw, which must be seized at once. Dr K has the backup of clinical psychology and therapy as well, to pile on top of his rhetorical kairos-jitsu. Poor Dr Mike never stood a chance... Dr Ks technique of switching the push in different directions to take the balance of the opponent (and to Dr K, EVERYONE is an opponent, even his own wife, if his paranoia detects a potential diss) is interesting in that its a good example of Klein's "diagonalism". He's taking a trope from the left, and a trope from the right and then a trope from the centrists and then back and forth, side to side you go, until you put that foot wrong and... ippon! From the left he takes the anti-eurocentrism/decolonialism thang. Western "axioms" have colonially disparaged Eastern axiomatic systems (all axioms are equally apriori, dontcha know...). If you diss ayurveda, it must be because you're a racist, and no one wants that, surely? From the right he takes neoclassical methodological individualism, ideologically generalised as "neoliberal" libertarian individualism. "Western medicine" and its population studies? That's the oppressive crushing of the Ayn Randian individual under the collectivist knout. And then, when your uke doesn't know whether to brace themselves against being pushed from left or right over the mumbo jumbo, hit them diagonally with the "of course I'm a normal sceptical scientist, who believes in evidence-based medicine. I'm not lying, my nose is always this long...". Seriously, what a shtick. You gotta admire the waza. The man is Godan, at the very least. On the consciousness stuff, I have one word - synesthesia. Ofc you can map the optical receptors and see that bit of the percept. But what about the music and the colours synethesiasts see? Beyond the quibble, Chris is too quick to do the Officer Barbrady shutdown ("Move along, nothing to see here!") on this question. And its one that requires far more inquiry than you're going to get with that attitude. And that's even before you get to the qualia level hard question of consciousness. But on the weaponisation of the consciousness question by woo merchants, people are woefully under-educated about science in general, imo. How we build causal models, and how those models are a map, not the territory. Above all, the difference between causal models and the messiness of real world causation, summed up in the word overdetermination. Yes, many real-world phenomena, like consciousness are overdetermined, which means playing the game of "what causes that, and what then caused that" is a losing game for anyone trying to answer, who doesn't understand the terrain. But that doesn't mean that there are any answers outside of scientific models. "Your approach has limits" - true. "Therefore there must be room outside those limits for our approach" - actually no.
Paul Bowman
2024-07-12 21:35:03 +0000 UTCwestern “precision medicine” shouldn’t be given any kind of pass. It is much more successful as a marketing and funding tool than actually producing consistently better patient outcomes.
Jason Trock
2024-07-12 13:27:26 +0000 UTCCan someone disarm trap of east vs west framing by ridiculing idpol?
aneladgam_varelse
2024-07-12 13:10:46 +0000 UTCBut are you left handed?
Jason Trock
2024-07-12 12:42:08 +0000 UTCI’ve got 29 minutes left in the 2nd dr k ep and I raise my dirty white flag in surrender. I cant listen to even one more minute of this smug sophist and his, by now, transparent rhetorical, juvenile tricks. I wouldn’t buy a used pen from this slimey mf
Idan Ca
2024-07-12 07:49:14 +0000 UTCI just got a chance to read this Adam - a very interesting read! I wasn't familiar with all that history on how the field started, and it's very cool how the discipline incorporated "modern" evidence based practice into their curriculum instead of digging their heels in and going down the quackery road. Also what a sad story about the founder and his children. The stat at the end about how over half of DOs don't even incorporate OMT into their practice rings true as well, from what I've heard a lot of the time people will just go wherever they can get into med school - MD or DO - as opposed to being true believers or opponents of OMT etc.
Anna J
2024-07-12 02:13:12 +0000 UTCThe rhetorical judo flip is bad enough, but completely bamboozling Dr Mike for the 90% is crap thing even though Dr k said it is truly startling, really awful behaviour.
Daniel Richards
2024-07-11 07:33:43 +0000 UTCBut … but… it starts from the individual!!
Idan Ca
2024-07-11 05:29:51 +0000 UTCI'm not satisfied that this answers my question, but I also don't have the language to articulate it satisfactorily. A description of the physical processes doesn't necessitate that I feel that duality-like experience of observing the universe through a specific subjective lens. I'm going to look for some literature in this domain, though I'm sure its fraught with unearned certainty disguised with invented philosophical language to make it seem more logically coherent than it really is.
Ben_
2024-07-11 03:02:18 +0000 UTCThe reason is that you are in your body and have sense organs and a human cognitive system. Beyond that existential questions about what it means for you to exist at all are best answered by digging into philosophy but the biological processes that give rise to consciousness and constrain you to your body are not a mystery. You are just a social primate with a set of eyes and a brain housed in your body, so you perceive things from your perspective... where else?
Christopher Kavanagh
2024-07-11 02:47:49 +0000 UTCThat's not the line of questioning I'm following. There are mechanisms that correspond with self awareness, inner dialogue, perception, and perceiving any phenomena. But it seems significant that I am a specific perceiver in the universe. I have the sensation of watching the universe play out through the perspective of my body, and not someone else's. The physical characteristics of that experience can be described, but it doesn't answer why I am a specific conscious entity. This isn't the question at the end of a chain of questions, it's distinct from describing the mechanisms of thought.
Ben_
2024-07-11 02:37:51 +0000 UTCI think it was the reverse 😂
Password1234!
2024-07-11 02:04:52 +0000 UTCSurely by this logic anything can be made to seem mysterious if only you ask the question "but what does it mean?" enough times. Why do we breath? Well to provide oxygen. But why do we require oxygen? So that living cells can function. But why do they need to function this way, when there are so many other ways they could theoretically function? Well because that is how they evolved according to the constraints provided by the universe/world. But why did they evolve when they did? Eventually you will end up with a question which is unanswerable and someone will try to fill the gap with this metaphysical explanation or that.
Password1234!
2024-07-11 02:04:00 +0000 UTCGot my shoutout and he’s like “Joe Ro(animal noises)mull” 💀
Joe Romel
2024-07-10 20:33:43 +0000 UTCsmashing didactics, thank you, decoders!
cd
2024-07-10 14:49:04 +0000 UTCI’m slightly confused by your perspective, Ben, but I’ll try my best to explain my view on this topic, which is pretty simplistic. I have an identical twin, who is very much like me. I can often feel what she is feeling because I know her so well, our experiences of reality are so similar, and we share biological traits. For example, I could watch a movie and know what would bother her or excite her about it. I’d know when she’d laugh. If anyone in the world was going to be me, it would be her. The thing that separates us is our bodies. The physical body is what makes my subjective experience different from her’s. I cannot feel it when she has a headache or nausea (thank goodness). My body, which includes my brain, is a consciousness prison to some extent. It keeps me from physically experiencing the pain of others, though I can imagine and empathize with that pain. I’m a materialist, which is why my view is simplistic. It all comes down to biological mechanisms (nervous system, sensory faculties, brain, etc). The reason we have subjective consciousness is simply that we do for the same reasons we have eyes. It serves an evolutionary purpose to be able to think about the self and relate to others.
Linda Sears
2024-07-10 12:51:06 +0000 UTCI think that still falls back to the two distinct definitions of consciousness. "...brains and mental processing like we possess generates sensations of subjective consciousness" - this seems to describe the brain functionality that corresponds with subjective experience, but that doesn't explain why anyone would experience the universe through their lens, or what it even means that we have a lens to experience the universe through.
Ben_
2024-07-10 04:28:15 +0000 UTCDr Mike sounded absolutely defeated by the end. It was almost demoralizing to hear the shift in his tone.
Nerfherder
2024-07-10 04:11:18 +0000 UTCPerfect description! He seems quite insecure and rather narcissistic.
Anna J
2024-07-10 03:38:08 +0000 UTCYou can imagine it but there is no evidence it can exist. it is easy to imagine a unicorn too. All humans with very few exceptions report subjective experiences and behave accordingly, it would seem that having brains and mental processing like we possess generates sensations of subjective consciousness. What you need to exist but currently does not, is something that definitely lacks subjective experience, but professes it does not and behaves in the same manner as if it is has it. Even then, if you get an AI to do this, for example, you can only rule out conscious experience as a necessary component of being able to reproduce the behaviour. This would still not demonstrate that someone with the biological architecture of a human can avoid generating subjective experiences.
Christopher Kavanagh
2024-07-10 02:50:13 +0000 UTCI don’t think this addresses my point. I can imagine an entity that is me, with the same problem solving capabilities, mental functionality, running dialogues, etc, without the subject experience. I can’t describe why I am that particular subjective experiencer, why I am experiencing the universe through a particular lens.
Ben_
2024-07-10 02:37:07 +0000 UTCYou can see it in how often he interrupts Dr Mike, too
Isaac Rosenberg
2024-07-09 23:01:08 +0000 UTCOh my god this is so fucking painful. Easily the most obnoxious series of episodes ever - which is saying a lot with Weinstein and Peterson being on the show so often… and there’s another episode yet to come!
Isaac Rosenberg
2024-07-09 22:58:16 +0000 UTCSo yours is a meta-question then, looking for some outside explanation for why we have subjective experience. Why can't subjective experience be completely explained by the physical processes/function of the brain? You want to posit something additional, something that is beyond what is necessary because it feels like there should be something more to you. How could anyone not have a unique subjective experience, we need emotions/valences/feelings as a biological imperative to support our ongoing existence. It's such a boring/pointless topic in philosophy. What does it feel like to be a bat? Who gives a shit haha. What if there is a zombie version of you that is physically exactly the same as you but doesn't have subjective inner life??? So what if my mother was my father? It's absolutely nonsensical, 'consciousness' isn't a thing.
Mark Vaughan
2024-07-09 22:00:23 +0000 UTCAgreed! And it is a terrible thing to have therapists who are motivated by a need to control.
Linda Sears
2024-07-09 20:04:51 +0000 UTCAt the end of the day, it seems that Dr. K’s varying presentation of the validity around Ayurvedic approaches reflects his need to be in control of the conversation and have unique understanding of ‘special knowledge’ which lends him an aura of prestige. It is hard to pin him down, and when Dr. Mike starts to get him pinned against his own arguments is when we see the weaponized therapy technique from Dr. K that totally flips the tone of the interaction. The uncomfortable feeling that gives me is reminiscent of the interaction between Dr. K and his wife, such that he utilizes therapy speak to gain control of an interaction when he feels diminished. Maybe it’s just me, but his tone of voice and speaking style makes me feel he is often holding back a simmering anger just below the surface. It all seems to boil down to control.
Nerfherder
2024-07-09 18:30:49 +0000 UTCAbout placebos... Isn't a placebo treatment used in a study because researchers want to check if some other aspect of the treatment (e.g. taking an inert pill) affects the outcome? Otherwise studies would just compare treatment with no treatment, right?
brianshmrian
2024-07-09 16:42:51 +0000 UTCI lost my sense of smell once, and when it came back coffee smelled completely different to me (and all roasted smells actually). This persisted for a few months until I read about people recovering their old sense of smell by intentionally trying to remember what the old scents were like. So every day when I made coffee I would spend a little time just smelling it and recalling the old, better coffee scent. This seemed to work to restore the old qualia. Of course this could all come down to olfactory neurons being damaged and then rewired, but it would be an interesting experiment to measure people's brain activity in cases like this and see how subjective changes like this manifest in neural activity. All this is to say that one person's experience of some sense is not necessarily the same as another's, though presumably with enough measurement we could detect what causes the difference. However, if we didn't have a first person subject who could report the experience we wouldn't know what it was like to them. Ok I'll stop writing now.
brianshmrian
2024-07-09 15:55:00 +0000 UTCThank you for your sacrifice. What a uniquely annoying little man that is. HUGE missed opportunity in my book - when Dr K did the Judo flip and asked Dr Mike "why does Ayurveda frustrate you" I was just waiting for Dr Mike to ask him the real question: "how do you justify believing in ayurveda but not in zodiac signs, homeopathy, spiritual surgery or traditional Chinese medicine?". I would've loved to see the answer here... PS - I felt like he keeps hamming up the Indian pronunciation and playing into the exoticism which feels annoying
PaulBFB
2024-07-09 14:16:21 +0000 UTCThe problem with consciousness debates seems to be that there are two distinct definitions of consciousness at play. One is about the problem solving and decision making qualities of the brain, which we can measure, and the other is what it means to have subjective experience, which people like Chris and Daniel Dennett seem to reject as a separate thing. My favorite way to think about the separate problem of subjective consciousness is to note that we can perfectly describe the thoughts, the inputs, processing, and outputs, of you, but we can’t describe why you are experiencing the universe through your brain and not someone else’s. What does it mean that you are a specific subjective experiencer floating through the universe? It seems to me that this question can never be answered by descriptions of brain functionality, though I’m open to being wrong.
Ben_
2024-07-09 14:07:18 +0000 UTCI thought so as well.
Tim Tripp
2024-07-09 12:34:29 +0000 UTCDr. K would make a good used car salesman. Dr. Mike came in looking for a nice cheap car and left with a Cadillac after Dr. K got through with him.
Tim Tripp
2024-07-09 12:32:39 +0000 UTCUpvote me https://www.reddit.com/r/Healthygamergg/comments/1dywliy/2nd_episode_of_decoding_the_gurus_dtg_on_dr_k/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=mweb3x&utm_name=mweb3xcss&utm_term=1&utm_content=share_button
aneladgam_varelse
2024-07-09 08:43:50 +0000 UTCI think Dr K is definitely my least favourite guru, tied with Scott Adams. When he pulled the weaponised therapy speak because he couldn't make a decent argument I was thinking just wow. We're doing this now? What a self righteous petulant little man, peddling an outdated belief system. I am looking forward to the gurometer episode though!
Minya Scase
2024-07-09 07:35:30 +0000 UTCDear god, four hours. It took me all day to get through that.
Jonathan Crymes
2024-07-09 05:28:56 +0000 UTCCome for the Dr K decoding, stay for the consciousness debate. Thanks for keeping that bit in, guys!
Nancy Hale
2024-07-09 00:43:07 +0000 UTCIt was supposed to be interview about dr K’s book “how to raise healthy gamer”
aneladgam_varelse
2024-07-09 00:40:37 +0000 UTCthese two guys voices sound too much alike
peta austen
2024-07-08 23:44:14 +0000 UTCAryuveda isn't medicine, which makes it understandable that he isn't in the best place to push back. In that case, why have Dr. K on? My impression of how Doctor Mike disagrees with something is to have on someone who holds the dame view and let that expert speak. For example, he did that to critique the trauma is everything Body Keeps the Score guy.
Adam Sher
2024-07-08 22:59:18 +0000 UTCI liked this history of osteopathy https://open.substack.com/pub/matthewyglesias/p/the-strange-history-of-osteopathic?utm_source=share&utm_medium=android&r=6xahq
Adam Sher
2024-07-08 22:54:56 +0000 UTCTook a break from listening to read an article about posture in The New Yorker. This part seems vaguely familiar..."any of the photographs in question were taken and held not by the institutions themselves but by the mid-century psychologist William Herbert Sheldon. Sheldon was best known for his later discredited theories of somatotypes, whereby he attributed personality characteristics to individuals based on whether their build was ectomorphic, endomorphic, or mesomorphic."
Randy
2024-07-08 22:26:35 +0000 UTCRight??? That was unbelievably dumb. Like "Vegetarianism causes Naziism because Hitler was a vegetarian" levels of stupid 😂 Either that or is was just self aware propaganda, with this grifter who knows lol
Anna J
2024-07-08 22:16:54 +0000 UTCYeah agree. Also Dr Mike is just way too agreeable / a pathological people pleaser it's one of his main flaws. It's a shame because he has consistently shown himself to be good at assessing if medical claims are bullshit...but he ruins it by having to end things nicely or finding common ground etc.
Anna J
2024-07-08 22:08:03 +0000 UTCYeah he certainly likes to be vague enough about his links w Havard to give the impression that he attended Harvard medical school lol
Anna J
2024-07-08 22:04:32 +0000 UTCIt's not what you think. In the US being a doctor of osteopathy is equivalent to being a doctor of medicine (MD), they just do some extra slightly kooky classes on osteopath bullshit during med school. But yeah DOs are completely legitimate medical doctors they are found in every single medical specialty that MDs are, they do the exact same residency programs - they are GPs, emergency doctors, cardiologists, surgeons etc. Other MDs don't consider them not to be medical doctors. I'm not in America but I have a lot of American doctor friends / colleagues and they tell me that basically it's a bit easier in terms of grades and MCAT score to get onto DO programs compared to MD, which is the main motivating factor (as opposed to an actual love of osteopathy). Because of this I think there is a bit of snobbery towards DO schools from MD schools during med school but it certainly seems to evaporate once people have actually completed residency.
Anna J
2024-07-08 22:00:45 +0000 UTCmade me laugh
peta austen
2024-07-08 21:49:22 +0000 UTCDidn't help to learn Dr Mike an osteopath.
brownie
2024-07-08 21:01:40 +0000 UTCJust got to the judo flip. The switch to therapy talk is so obviously manipulative listening to it like this, but if I was in Dr. Mike's position there's no way I would pick up on it in the moment. Also, the shadowboxing and judo flip analogies are NOT helping with the anime version of you guys and the gurus I am creating in my head. Now I can't help but imagine Dr. Mike just throwing punches at a smiling Dr. K standing with his hands behind his back, hitting nothing but air, as they both teleport around all over the place. Dr. K would have a special move like 必殺技：「Therapy Language」 or something
Soapy Dishwater
2024-07-08 20:48:20 +0000 UTCDr. K's level of motivated reasoning is impressive. Even Bret Weinstein could learn one thing or two from him
Andreas Singer
2024-07-08 20:25:25 +0000 UTCMaybe it’ll pique their interest now that Matt and Chris are on the case!
chuckboy
2024-07-08 20:07:51 +0000 UTCThere is already thought-to-audio device and I find it scary af
aneladgam_varelse
2024-07-08 19:53:17 +0000 UTCDr Mike probably is so close minded because he’s kapha
aneladgam_varelse
2024-07-08 18:54:49 +0000 UTCWhen dr K asked in therapist voice “what frustrates so much about Ayurvedic medicine?” I instantly became angry, from 0 to 100%
aneladgam_varelse
2024-07-08 18:53:03 +0000 UTCCiting one successful person who swears by an esoteric technique is such a basic mistake that it should make anyone suspicious of Dr. K’s reasoning. Also, to be fair he should read out one of Arnold’s workout routines from his prime. Visualization is attractive because it seems like a shortcut, but I’m guessing his audience would be less enthusiastic to hear that they have to do a million bicep curls to be successful in life.
Ben Godek
2024-07-08 16:35:33 +0000 UTCI tried massaging Conspirituality about dr K over year ago, when they dropped episode on Huberman. I got no response. Probably my pitch wasn’t convincing as I was still under dr K’s influence, but already critical.
aneladgam_varelse
2024-07-08 15:55:41 +0000 UTCFour hours about a guy I barely know and already can't stand, yet can't wait to listen. Thanks guys.
trol
2024-07-08 15:26:58 +0000 UTC@aneladgam_varelse I think the confluence of being red-pilled and anti-intellectualism could very well stem from this very idea! Only 3K for the wisdom of the ages vs 100k + to learn actual science, etc in the academy in the US. But that’s a whole ‘nother ball of wax.
chuckboy
2024-07-08 15:16:13 +0000 UTCIt could be a fun discussion to ping the Conspirituality guys on if you feel like co tinting your deep dive! (Certainly fun for me as a listener, anyway)
chuckboy
2024-07-08 15:13:40 +0000 UTCDuring gurumeter review pls include and weight on scale: - constant mentions of being Harvard-trained, despite not being Harvard trained; dr K got affiliated with Harvard, because got employed (?) by Ayurveda lab at Harvard and then he did residency there - mentions that he was asked during flight if there is a doctor on board? and he had to do evaluation and decide whether they need to land - lecture on yt how to care about mental health during war and what can we learn from these few studies he just found
aneladgam_varelse
2024-07-08 14:25:59 +0000 UTCI wonder how dr K will score on the gurumeter, because he seems to be most guru of them all. We need to rely on objective measurements to overcome bias.
aneladgam_varelse
2024-07-08 14:22:09 +0000 UTC$3000 is probably lower cost than cost of education in US for Harvard-trained psychiatrist, yet you have the same knowledge and insights! Isn’t it amazing?
aneladgam_varelse
2024-07-08 14:20:46 +0000 UTCYou poor thing!!! Exhausting indeed.
Emma
2024-07-08 13:55:42 +0000 UTCHe didn't make it.
Ymirsdreams
2024-07-08 13:54:00 +0000 UTCVery interesting!
Christopher Kavanagh
2024-07-08 13:43:40 +0000 UTCI am a yoga teacher who’s undergone a lot of trainings and I have to say that all of Dr. K’s points come directly out of “Yoga World”… it’s also very common in this sphere to retrofit (a basic/incomplete understanding of) scientific progress and discoveries into Vedic models and use that as proof of some kind of divine wisdom of the yogis. Listening to his content gives me the sense that 99% of his talking points come directly out of 200 hour yoga teacher training and it’s unclear to me if any of it truly arises from his advanced study of psychology. Another common “Yoga World” trope is leaning into Orientalism and leveraging Indian/South Asian identity as a verification of authenticity whether or not the speaker is bringing any insights into the conversation that could not be easily found in a training manual. Same with leveraging advanced/unrelated studies (in this context, psychology). Very interesting … it took me back to the heady days of training as a teacher and feeling as though my yoga school was helping me unlock the secrets of the universe for the low low cost of $3000 USD.
chuckboy
2024-07-08 13:34:46 +0000 UTCLearned well, you have. Much evolved your brain has.
Adam Sher
2024-07-08 13:34:18 +0000 UTCDoes the genomic evidence Dr K brings up to explain the doshas correspond with lineage selection evolutionary theory as presented by Brett Weinstein? I could see how those two could work towards a truly revolutionary, galaxy-brained approach that will redefine human medicine and evolutionary biology.
Linda Sears
2024-07-08 12:53:37 +0000 UTCFor the Doctor Mike, Dr. K part, it seems like DR. K wore Mike down. By the end, they somehow agree on Ayurveda (99%)? That seems like a shortcoming of long form interviews and not being familiar with the topic the guest is speaking on.
Adam Sher
2024-07-08 12:50:30 +0000 UTCOscar worthy performance from the Mattrix at 18:20
Níall Faughnan
2024-07-08 12:07:04 +0000 UTCWell I listened to dr K, he was my guru! As to why: he has legit credentials, seems rooted in evidence-based approach, reaches toward audience of gamers currently losing at life and paints himself as relatable figure. Most appealing thing is, I think, that’s he is very willing to provide guidance: if this is relatable to you, this is what you should do to fix your life, there is hope for you. The advice isn’t 100% crazy, it’s actually a mixed bag - some solid advice, some ?????. Add to that very devoted fanbase and rare instances of criticism. Also I listened to dr K during my depression episode, no doubt I’m not the only one listener with clinical mental illness, and yeah mental illness heavy affects perception, lowers critical abilities. Over time a lot of dr K’s content seemed sus to me, so I kept suggesting him for decoding.
aneladgam_varelse
2024-07-08 12:06:43 +0000 UTCI'll do that!
John Barrie
2024-07-08 11:54:12 +0000 UTCmy ex was exactly this kind of person. He was also cutting edge progressive and it was almost like having thought police in my home, because ofc everything would escalate very quickly to argument with facts and logic and shittone of dishonest techniques. Exhausting.
aneladgam_varelse
2024-07-08 11:53:44 +0000 UTC7 hours of doctor K content… you treat us so well
Ethan Milne
2024-07-08 11:27:37 +0000 UTCDr K reminds me of one of my old friends. In fact so much so this is almost a bit triggering for me. She was the most argumentative person you ever met. So she would often pick ridiculous positions for no reason other than to be contrary. And then once she started arguing she would shift her position constantly and absolutely refuse to admit that she was doing so. So it did have a bit of a boxing w shadows quality as Matt described. She also had a lot of other sort of dishonest arguing techniques because her only interest was turning everythink into a competition and then she had to win at all costs. It was incredibly frustrating and was part of the reason I eventually cut ties w her.
Emma
2024-07-08 09:55:57 +0000 UTCI’m sorry, you can have max 3 doshas. This is the cap of your uniqueness.
aneladgam_varelse
2024-07-08 09:43:00 +0000 UTCWhat did I just listen to? Why would anyone want to listen to this? Why would anybody think there is anything to this crazy persons rants
Tobias nilsson
2024-07-08 09:07:33 +0000 UTCYou might skip to the Doctor Mike segment that’s more like a traditional interview/
Christopher Kavanagh
2024-07-08 08:47:53 +0000 UTCThanks boys. I used to think that I was carrying, I don’t know, 70 or 90 dhoshas simultaneously. Now I know that I only have 3, but I am reassured that I don’t have to collapse them all into a single, master dhosha.
Aaron Holder
2024-07-08 08:47:31 +0000 UTCOfc kaphas have the worst kind of depression
aneladgam_varelse
2024-07-08 08:30:27 +0000 UTCvery basic hygiene = understanding microbiology is like 1 year streak at duolingo = language proficiency
aneladgam_varelse
2024-07-08 08:22:17 +0000 UTCI have to say, I dislike this guy a lot.
Ryan Booker
2024-07-08 08:08:18 +0000 UTCSome covers on Russian tanks in Ukraine are so insane that I highly doubt these help drive tank better
aneladgam_varelse
2024-07-08 07:43:55 +0000 UTCIt’s kinda mind blowing that *psychiatrist* is so hang up on Mayers-Briggs, of all things from psychology
aneladgam_varelse
2024-07-08 07:00:21 +0000 UTCMy chakras are aligned, my play back setting is at x8 speed, my Oxford Book of Rhetoric is open, and my sex life is arid. I am ready for the odyssey!
Ymirsdreams
2024-07-08 06:48:51 +0000 UTCIt’s a trap!
Idan Ca
2024-07-08 06:14:04 +0000 UTCRCTs don't exist in a vacuum. There's a long process of testing a treatment on an individual or a small group of people to testing on a moderately sized group to performing an RCT, or something like that, which is basically the "better" way that Dr K thinks ayurveda does things. Furthermore, the point of RCTs is to remove the effect of individual circumstance, not the individual itself, whatever that means. If a treatment is shown to be effective in an RCT, it should be effective - within some bound - for the general human, not just the average human, again, whatever that means. Not that Dr K would care about any of this since he's married to his position... I'm just allergic to strawmen.
Jenson
2024-07-08 05:32:05 +0000 UTCHa. Loved the chat at the start. I don’t remember which one it was, but I recently had to take a Corporate Astrology test. 😂
Ryan Booker
2024-07-08 05:28:46 +0000 UTCKapha is a slur <3
aneladgam_varelse
2024-07-08 03:27:26 +0000 UTCSame, Vata Vata Vata
Kyle Wilson
2024-07-08 03:27:15 +0000 UTCCrystal cave of an episode!
aneladgam_varelse
2024-07-08 03:18:40 +0000 UTCI would usually love me some almost-four-hour-long DTG, but I can only handle a few minutes listening to this guy before I feel like strangling someone (preferably him). I've found this to be a frequent reaction I have to streamers; I think I could agree with everything they say and feel the same way. In the west of Scotland (and perhaps in Northern Ireland too), we describe this kind of annoying person as a 'nyaff,' and the streamer universe seems to be full of them. I'm looking forward to DTG getting back to the usually-annoying-but-in-a-more-bearable way gurus and me getting back to enjoying the extra-long episodes again! :)
John Barrie
2024-07-08 01:31:51 +0000 UTCGiven the word VATAS was living in my head rent-free for weeks after the first one, I'm going to have to work up the initiative to take this one on.
Will
2024-07-08 01:09:05 +0000 UTC33+33+33=99, what about the other guy????
peta austen
2024-07-08 00:28:24 +0000 UTCJust what you asked for ;)
Password1234!
2024-07-08 00:24:38 +0000 UTCGodspeed!
DrJRad
2024-07-07 23:23:42 +0000 UTCI'm going in!
David Noble
2024-07-07 23:21:37 +0000 UTCWell thank goodness it's under 4 hours
John Graham
2024-07-07 22:41:08 +0000 UTCHolla
Lillie
2024-07-07 22:40:45 +0000 UTCYay!!!!
Julie
2024-07-07 22:40:34 +0000 UTC
