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Patreon Vote! Pick a Topic for Extra History

With the First Crusade series wrapped up and Admiral Yi on the way, it's time for us to hold another vote to select an upcoming topic for Extra History!



We've got a special vote happening this month. EVERY option in this poll was suggested by our patrons - and they're all fantastic suggestions!

Vote: http://freeonlinesurveys.com/p/VgAkQvPR?qid=726994

DEADLINE: September 25 before midnight PST

Vote for as many topics as you want to see us cover - you're not limited to just voting for your favorite! The topic that gets the most overall votes wins and will be featured in an upcoming series this fall.

Current Series Order: Admiral Yi --> Broad Street Pump --> Justinian and Theodora Part 2 --> Your Vote!

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You guys are too awesome :) No worrys about the late reply, Patreon's comment system is a little weird. I don't seem able to reply directly to you. I can only reply to my original comment. Also I keep accidentally submitting a comment when I just want a line return.

Jeffrey Schneider

Survey Monkey only allows you to get 150 (or maybe it was 200) votes at a time, unless you want to pay them a subscription fee. I trialed it for a while, and loved the features, but we just don't run votes often enough to justify the fee. Appreciate you looking into it though! And sorry it took me a while to respond here. Didn't see the notification that you'd answered. :(

Extra History

Thanks for the reply! I just spent the morning researching voting systems and online poll creation sites. The best I found was surveymonkey.com which may be cheaper than the one you're using. It would also allow you to do a ranked weighted approval system using their ranked poll. However, I'm not sure the added complexity is worth it. Anyways appreciate the response and I understand your reasons now. As always I can't wait for the next episode! Keep up the awesome work! :)

Jeffrey Schneider

I think it's a good poll when we put up four topics that all tickle your fancy! There are certainly more eras of Japanese history we'd love to cover (and I know it's David's favorite), so I'm sure we'll be back to it someday if the voters approve.

Extra History

Christina, thanks for this excellent answer! Couldn't have ssaid it better myself, so I won't try. :D

Extra History

I switched to the approvals system after discussion with a patron who'd done some research on better voting methods, so I'm open to persuasion. Right now, my opinion is that this system seems to work really well: it's simple enough for people to understand, and also simple enough for me to set it up on FreeOnlineSurveys' rather basic system.

Extra History

Yeah, as far as EH topics go, we have a giant gap where the Americas are concerned and it'd be great to kick things off Simon Bolivar!

Extra History

As RMS guessed, if the Ottoman Empire wins, we will most likely be talking about its beginnings - although that's not set in stone. But as the Crusader series recently showed, we won't shy away from describing the ugly moments in history for what they are. We will as we always have talk frankly about what happened without demonizing anyone.

Extra History

Is there any way for you guys to set up a ranked runoff voting system? I feel like new topics should be decided by a majority not a plurality. The way it is now there is a significant chance that a majority of your supporters don't get the topic they want.

Jeffrey Schneider

Vote Simon Bolivar! It'd be really cool to know more about the George Washington of Latin America.

fahesco

Yeah Patrick, I would be surprised if they go that far into the Ottoman's history. It might feel a bit forced if they talk about their beginnings and their accession and then suddenly cut to the Armenian Genocide.

Bjørnar Røsnes Ersdal

It's a bit hard to cram 500 years of history into six episodes. I think the series proposed is about their ascendance in the 15th century. Armenia is better discussed in a series about the Ottomans in WW1, and/or maybe a series about the birth of modern Turkey.

RMS Oceanic

If they cover the evil Ottoman empire, I hope you will not neglect to mention how it ended in the Genocide of the Armenian People.

Ikeda Hakubi

Or rather, the successor states of the Latin Empire, it too was gone. And Venice as anybody who has played Europa Universalis will know. The Ottomans themselves were also much more influenced by the Greek culture of western Anatolia than the heavily Persian-influenced Seljuks had been, though they maintained significant Persian and Arab influences.

Christina Maria Jessen

There was more than 350 years between the First Crusade and the Ottoman conquest of Constantinople. In between that there was the Fourth Crusade. The Ottomans also weren't the Seljuk, they were their own political entity with their own history in post-Seljuk Anatolia. Now, being Turks in Anatolia, they could obviously trace history to the Seljuks, but they were not the same and military organization had come a long way in general over those 300-something years. Just as an example, cannons and guns in general were around. And it is probably not spoiling too much to say that by the time to Ottomans got to the Byzantine Empire, the Latin Empire, the Despotate of Epirus and the Empire of Trebizond, they were all very different from the Byzantine Empire in previous series.

Christina Maria Jessen

I'm genuinely curious about how the Byzantium Empire started losing to the Ottoman\. I know there was a disease that rocked it pretty hard, but there must have been something else. Especially if the Turks ran their army in the same way that they did during the First Crusade.

Sean Sarff

Awesome choicesSimón Bolívar - El Libertador

Clearwood

I voted for all of them because two of them I knew nothing about and the other two I only know about in passing. But man, I would super duper love to see more covering Japanese history! I've watched the entire Sengoku Jidai run about 6 times.

Kira Stegner

The patron who suggested Ottoman Empire has really been pushing for it, so I'm sure they'll be happy with their early lead!

Extra History

Now that you point it out, yeah, it would be a pretty good pseudo-sequel to the Justinian and Theodora series!

Extra History

Ottoman empire just dovetails into Byzantine history.

Joseph Frank Perez

Also I second historical women!!

FizzPlease

I really want to see Haile Selassie because I only know of him from ::cough:: Civ. But looks like Ottoman Empire is winning which is great because the first thing I think of in relation to "ottoman" is couch-related. I am not a learned person :/

FizzPlease

That's fair! It certainly shows us the level of excitement for them.

Extra History

These are all great so I guess I'll vote for all?

GooGhoul

He is sometimes called that, yes!

Extra History

Yep, this is the one! We want to make sure that patron suggestions always make it onto the show at least some percentage of the time.

Extra History

I totally agree! The second part of Justinian and Theodora is gonna feature more of Theodora's awesomeness, and I'm working on a small side project that will hopefully get us a featured woman, but I'd like to see the show branch out more, as well. -Soraya

Extra History

Hey It not to nitpick or anything but I think It be cool if we could get a series on cool historical ladies. I mean it's been pretty much wall to wall Great Man theory up in here.

Megan Desfosses

Haile Selassie...isn't that "Jah"?

Turlas85

This is the 'patreon topics that didn't win their respective vote' list, isn't it? Glad to see this sort of special vote happen.

Stephen


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