Choose the Music for EH: Justinian!
Added 2015-06-04 03:48:22 +0000 UTCOur generous and talented musicians have been at it again, composing a custom piece to run at the end of each "Justinian and Theodora" episode. Trouble is, they gave us two versions, and we like them both so much we can't decide! Listen to both versions: https://clyp.it/iaysrtfz Tell us which one you prefer: http://bit.ly/1cyGchl Want to help us out? We'd love to hear what you think! (And yes, they are pretty similar, but they're not the same.)
Comments
Something to learn from. :)
Kyle Clark
2015-06-07 23:06:41 +0000 UTCVersion 2 works better for me.
Terry
2015-06-06 16:09:58 +0000 UTCI personally am really digging the second version, but I like both so either one will be good.
Thea Waters
2015-06-05 16:43:46 +0000 UTCVersion one, for me, seemed to be of a more constant intensity. It changes, but doesn't surge and ebb. Version two seemed to increase in intensity as it built. Given that you usually slowly fade in the outro music as you wrap up the narrative, my vote goes to version two, as the slow build might fit with the fade into the credits portion of the episode. Or at least, that's my thinking on it.
Rennod Shinjuku
2015-06-05 02:07:06 +0000 UTCIf they were thematically very different, and struck a different tone or emotional mood, then I'd consider it because in that case switching the music would be a way to say "hey, something different happened in this episode." But since these are so very similar, I think using both of them would come off more as indecisive, and that's not what we're going for as creators!
Extra History
2015-06-04 23:45:36 +0000 UTCI like #Version2 best. I think it has a better flow, but both seems good.
Clearwood
2015-06-04 21:57:57 +0000 UTCWow, nice to know the thought process behind the choice of instrumentation! I don't know if there is time to add it to "Lies" video, but that would cool :)
Eran Mekhmandarov
2015-06-04 19:56:03 +0000 UTCI voted 1. I prefer 2, but its instrumental performance sounds, to me, too joyful for Justinian Catholics.
ReaperNX
2015-06-04 18:19:29 +0000 UTCWhile I love Katherine's suggestion if I have to choose just one I prefer the second version.
DezzieArts
2015-06-04 17:10:22 +0000 UTCLyras are bowed :) Lyres are plucked. It's all rather confusing.
Sean
2015-06-04 16:51:22 +0000 UTCPlaying it on your phone!? Man, I've really got to start checking my mix on phone speakers haha
Sean
2015-06-04 16:46:46 +0000 UTCThis is all correct! We didn't have a Lyra on hand, but thought that since it might have been around during Justinian's time, that we could use it in our instrumentation. True ecclesiastical music of the time would just have had vocals, which would have been a bit more challenging to impress the kind of imposing, grand tone we wanted to go for. So we decided to go with two Viola's for a reedier timbre that would get closer to the Lyra--a very recent ancestor to the violin. Also in the background you can hear a plucked string instrument that we wrote to mimic the Byzantine Shilyani. So while we didn't use the exact instruments available at the time, we were definitely motivated to only use what would have existed at the time. :)
Sean
2015-06-04 16:28:29 +0000 UTCThanks! :) Are lyras plucking or bowing instruments? I understand that they are descended from harps - which leads me to believe plucking?
Eran Mekhmandarov
2015-06-04 11:07:43 +0000 UTCFiddles/Violins originated in the 10th Century, derived from the Byzantine Lyra. Not sure when that started to be used, thought he earliest known reference to it was, I believe, 9th Century CE, but I'm unaware of any records of the exact origins of the Byzantine Lyra - The references for the 9th Century CE indicate it was in fairly common usage within the Byzantine empire at the time. So... Violins are anacronistic, yes, but it's not outside of the realm of possibility that an instrument similar to the Violin would have been available in the 5th and 6th Century CE, contemporary to Justinian I. The main difference seems to be that the Byzantine Lyra was a five stringed instrument rather than the four of a violin, and there may be a difference in shape as well. (But that's based on about five minutes of research, I'm hoping we get a segment of lies dedicated to the accuracy of the use of a violin in the music to clarify this stuff - It's an interesting topic, the history of musical instruments, but one that's often overlooked by 'serious' history and, I think, even music history, which seems to tend to be more focused on composers and stylistic evolutions rather than the evolutions of the equipment used to make the music)
Stephen
2015-06-04 09:43:08 +0000 UTCNot much difference that I can tell, but there's just something about the second that I prefer but I couldn't say why (And, yes, I did manually listen to Version 1 first. Actually I needed to listen to both twice to figure out for sure)
Stephen
2015-06-04 09:29:59 +0000 UTCVersion one has a bit more complexity at about 3/4 through. Version two is pretty much steady throughout. That's why I like version 1 better than version 2. it builds up to that climax before it ends.
Kathyrne
2015-06-04 08:00:32 +0000 UTCPersonally I like the first one a little bit better, but I am wondering why you can't use both? Use version one in the first episode, then version two in the second, and swap them back and forth. Just wondering.
Kathyrne
2015-06-04 07:59:10 +0000 UTCI'm definitely not sure about this, maybe someone with more knowledge of Music History can correct me, but I think the violin instrument in both tracks would not have existed in Justinian's time? The tracks are very pretty though and I'm not a purist :)
Eran Mekhmandarov
2015-06-04 07:19:38 +0000 UTCI voted 1, but can't actually here any diffrence :/
Martin
2015-06-04 06:48:45 +0000 UTCIt played the first version for me. I was on my cell phone when I listen maybe that made a difference? The second version kinds seems more appropriate for the senkoku Jidai I liked the first better because it seems to fit just a tad better and reminiscent of being in a cathedral
Iriscilla Ayala
2015-06-04 06:27:41 +0000 UTCI suppose as long as folks are noticing this happening and voting accordingly, it's fine, but it makes me rather nervous. I don't know how to fix it, though... first time using Clyp.
Extra History
2015-06-04 06:20:56 +0000 UTCVersion one works more for me. It gave me the back of my neck tinglies, so it wins. :P
Kenneth Keyn (Abadoss)
2015-06-04 06:19:40 +0000 UTCI just switched to version one before it started playing.
Kenneth Keyn (Abadoss)
2015-06-04 06:17:43 +0000 UTCThe second played first for me too. I still prefer it--the counterpoint is nicer than the pentatonics used in the first version.
John Jihoon Chang
2015-06-04 05:29:26 +0000 UTCUh... that could skew the voting. Anyone else care to weigh in?
Extra History
2015-06-04 05:20:06 +0000 UTCQuestion: Is everyone getting the second song played first?
Kyle Clark
2015-06-04 04:47:36 +0000 UTCI might be the first to vote so yay. Second seems to flow better.
Joseph Frank Perez
2015-06-04 04:06:52 +0000 UTC
