NSFW Expanse - What do you think?
Added 2016-02-12 02:58:40 +0000 UTCHey guys, please read when you have a moment. ♥
( Tip: If you're too busy or want the quick version, just read the question in bold and skip to the bottom )
I wanna run a couple of questions by you all, since it's been over half a year now of my art in Patreon, so seems like it's time to do a little research on how you feel about it. One question at a time. For now, I want to know your preference on the following point:
> Do you want to see more sexual themes going on?
(still in all females territory, ofc)
I get a lot of suggestions to lean my work more openly into adult stuffs and I'd like to. But, maybe because my art started on the "sexy but tame" side, I've found some sensitiveness about it over the years. Like some people might think a passive nude girl is artsy and awesome, but if she's playing with some toys it's suddenly porn and inconvenient. I honestly can't care less about such arbitrary boundary (I enjoy all sides of things) as long as quality and style stands. But at the same time I'm in no position to risk scaring away half my patrons, if they don't agree to that sort of arts... So let me hear you, okay? I just need your green-light on this matter. Either way, rest assured not -all- the art will be sexual if the vote goes that way. It doesn't mean to be so much a change of direction, only achieving some more wider scope.
Can vote on this topic by favoring the comment on this post that better represents your opinion, or posting your own. Thank you!
[ Edit: preferably posting your own, since favs are slippery sometimes. ]
If anyone is interested in discussing anything of this more in deep, as many of you know I'm super open to talk on PMs/emails any time.
Comments
I'll throw in another 'yes' to the resounding chorus! Which shouldn't be surprising considering the last commission from me was topless...hope all's well! -Rags
Matt
2016-02-18 10:06:58 +0000 UTCI sent you an email, please read it ^^
allzquiet
2016-02-13 21:04:52 +0000 UTCplease do it!
renatoroldan
2016-02-13 17:34:36 +0000 UTCYes, it's I think too. It's not necessarily. But i rest a guy, and i like NSFW too :P So, it's like you feel it. But do not feel obliged to you for all that because other artists put all ^^
Nodox
2016-02-13 09:59:55 +0000 UTCIf you feel like drawing more sexy/NSFW/lewd themed art, I will be more than happy with it!
Eddie Murphy
2016-02-13 08:18:49 +0000 UTCNo worries, the translation seems clear enough. ^^ Well, yes, the intention is not to replace the current type of content, only to add some more NSFW variety when the mood is fitting (my mood -and- the character's). If people not interested can overlook those specific pieces and still enjoy the rest, that would be just fine I think?
Fegu
2016-02-13 06:07:58 +0000 UTCIt sounds like a loud and clear 'yes' from about everyone. :'D
Fegu
2016-02-13 05:58:18 +0000 UTCHey, Shipons! Knew I could count with your approval on this matter. Thanks!! I'm still here for little chats any time, as available as I can! :'3 If I seem aloof sometimes is because I easily become overwhelmed by social interactions demanding my attention in amounts (which is common now in Patreon). But that's part of who I am. Learning to live with it. ^^
Fegu
2016-02-13 05:54:44 +0000 UTCThanks, Ash! Haha, yes, I expected to hear you'd approve of this idea. We tend to agree on that regard! xD
Fegu
2016-02-13 05:21:01 +0000 UTCThe "normal" kind of content won't go missing. My intention is only to add variety, not to entirely change the direction of my work. ^^
Fegu
2016-02-13 05:19:41 +0000 UTCAha!! That makes me glad! c=
Fegu
2016-02-13 05:18:46 +0000 UTCHey, Alex! Yes, I intend to keep a balance with soft-arts too. The idea isn't to focus on NSFW entirely, but instead just to add more variety (in that regard, even a little futa here and there might happen...! )
Fegu
2016-02-13 05:15:50 +0000 UTCThanks for your feedback. Indeed, the fun is on letting each character approach the NSFW side in their own way. Oh, and I've got your PM, too. I'll answer to it in detail soon! I don't wanna rush a reply, as I've got many to answer triggered by this question. :3
Fegu
2016-02-13 05:12:50 +0000 UTCI appreciate that positiveness. Thank you!
Fegu
2016-02-13 05:07:22 +0000 UTCThat won't go missing! I want to keep providing tame sexy pieces too.
Fegu
2016-02-13 05:06:44 +0000 UTCThe way I see it, you're up for, your patrons seem to be up for it as well! You should go for it!
Katie Grayson (Rin/Hina)
2016-02-12 23:02:57 +0000 UTCI don't see anything wrong by creating some more yummy arts so im voting YES to NSFW. But Fegu don't you dare to stop creating arts like you do for now :) I'd like to see both versions - soft and hard... depends on character and situation. You are one of my favourite artist coz of your drawing skill and those expressions on character faces / poses... but sometimes i like to see something more... ekhem... "porn" as you said so give us a sample and i think everyone will approve that :)
Nefratum
2016-02-12 16:15:45 +0000 UTCEverybody says yes, and so do I. Green lights all the way!
Glenny
2016-02-12 15:38:03 +0000 UTCHeh, read the title and thought you were planning to draw pr0n of the SF TV series "The Expanse"... ;-) You feel you want more freedom to explore NSFW art, you know you've got my support ;3 Just don't let yourself feel pressured by others into drawing things you're not comfortable with. You're in charge here. Also, I kinda miss our chats, y'know. Don't be a stranger, now... ~Section49/ShiponsTails
Section49
2016-02-12 14:30:48 +0000 UTCAppreciate your feedback! ^^
Fegu
2016-02-12 14:17:08 +0000 UTCYes! His advice was very on-point. As for the waifus, I did get before some requests (still pending) that take things on that explicit direction. It's a small part of the reasons why I decided to open up and make this little poll about it, wondering where those new waifu pieces would fit within my current gallery.
Fegu
2016-02-12 14:16:36 +0000 UTCYes yes! The idea is only to expand my field of freedom, for when the art moods point that way. If anything, it should help to keep things from becoming stale. Thanks for the feedback!
Fegu
2016-02-12 14:08:29 +0000 UTCYus, I've threaded on that slope before, discussing with commission clients, and I know the pressure. ^^' But I also know myself, and my own taste sets the limits, for is my art after all. Are countless the jobs I've declined to remain true to it. You are right, and is good advice about keeping things in-character. I think the extra spice can only add to the fun as long as the character shows involvement in it, and remains on the palette of believable emotions. Been always part of my goals to keep things that way! : )
Fegu
2016-02-12 13:58:05 +0000 UTCAs I am sure you know my opinion of this topic, but, for the record; I am not adverse to such sexual loveliness. The depiction of all your characters are always true and lively, love them for that, and I trust wholly as how you would chose to approach that extra spice for each, if at all. I also do like the different flavour/feel in which your SFW adds compared to your NSFW, and hope that Love+ adds yet another dimension. You have my vote. ( ^_^)b
Ashley Mason
2016-02-12 13:42:46 +0000 UTCMost of my favorites of yours involve doing something natural to their character--fighting, dancing, driving--rather than anything sexual. I prefer more natural poses and situations, though tummies are a must, of course.
Fatal Phantoon
2016-02-12 11:56:27 +0000 UTCYes. All of my yes.
RiceGnat
2016-02-12 11:24:59 +0000 UTCHi Fegu! I came here because of your style, and imo you can draw everything you want. I'll be happy to see any of your works, even if it be furry or futa =) but please dont stop with softcore versions and canonical looking characters. balance between sfw/nsfw(+) will be great. Good luck! p.s. if you have such plans, i want to see nsfw+ continuation of this art, especially tomboy girl *_* <a href="http://orig02.deviantart.net/5b13/f/2014/349/5/3/comm__erika___espoir___beachday_by_feguimel-d89z5dy.png" rel="nofollow noopener" target="_blank">http://orig02.deviantart.net/5b13/f/2014/349/5/3/comm__erika___espoir___beachday_by_feguimel-d89z5dy.png</a>
alex kononov
2016-02-12 08:17:14 +0000 UTCI'm so bad in English for anwser. Maybe you need Google traduction ^^' Non je ne pense pas que ce soit nécessaire. Ce que tu fais en Tier3 est déjà bien assez NSFW, pas besoin d'en rajouter une couche, ni d'augmenter la dose de porn sur les images. Personnellement c'est ce que j'aime dans ce que tu fais, peu de NSFW mais juste ce qu'il faut, avec les bonnes proportions. C'est parfait ! Donc mon avis : Non, pas besoin ^^
Nodox
2016-02-12 07:01:48 +0000 UTCI also agree with Tsuaii. I think NobleCrimson's idea is something very worth exploring as well, especially as the Waifu awards are mostly about OCs, and people will be more invested in seeing their characters depicted as they are meant to be (and I think that's a very good thing!). That also goes for the non-Waifu-award pieces, methinks; as sexuality is something that most of us think is up to each and everyone of us to think and judge about, so it should be for the fictional characters being depicted as well, i.e. their individual NSFW-ness should be up to their individual characterization. That said, there is one question that I've been meaning to ask you, especially since your last reply to another comment I made on one of your posts - I'll be sending you a message regarding this question soon.
Meto
2016-02-12 06:08:48 +0000 UTCI don't mind if you do hardships stuff, buy my favorite is always going to be your softcore sexiness.
Delicious Orange
2016-02-12 05:41:19 +0000 UTCArt is art at the end of the day. Your stuff has always been tastefully done and that's what I've always enjoyed. What direction you decide to go in won't change anything though. You still got a fan in me.
FunNest Games
2016-02-12 04:45:14 +0000 UTCI am a new one here. I think your art is awesome in any form. All we need is a balance between soft and hardcore. And i am sorry. My English is also pretty bad.
Arhikanonik
2016-02-12 04:24:46 +0000 UTCI agree with Tsuaii. As long as it's within character it's fine with me. My idea: Have anyone you hasn't had their waifu done send another e-mail stating to what lewd degree they would want to see their waifu.
NobleCrimson
2016-02-12 04:09:59 +0000 UTCYeah - just food for thought :) I for one love the yums - and would love to see any of the delicious content you make regardless of the explicit-ness hahaha
Hammerhead027
2016-02-12 04:00:05 +0000 UTCI've always been a fan of sexy, naughty stuff, but the primary concern would be quality. IMO, the only way to guarantee that stays level/improves is if the artist themselves are enjoying what they do. If you get ideas that intrigue you, then you should make art of it. Sexy, or tame, or just plain, shouldn't really matter. Unless your art becomes stale(same stuff over and over and over), I'll be sticking around(and hope others do too).
Maqywhaq
2016-02-12 03:39:53 +0000 UTCYour English reads fine to me. : ) And your open-mindedness is welcome, too!
Fegu
2016-02-12 03:31:07 +0000 UTCIt can be a slippery slope — note that things may never be pushed "far enough" for some people. However, you should judge it on a case-by-case basis. Some characters are just more inclined to be put in those situations, while others look better (and are more in-character) being shown more tame. ^^ It's about making it believable, more than anything
tsuaii
2016-02-12 03:29:38 +0000 UTCThat's the spirit!
Fegu
2016-02-12 03:28:26 +0000 UTCI super appreciate that positiveness. ^_^
Fegu
2016-02-12 03:27:12 +0000 UTCMore Yums = Better! ;)
Jormungand
2016-02-12 03:27:10 +0000 UTCHahah, yes, that would require some movement on the Tiers levels... I'd need to thread carefully on that matter.
Fegu
2016-02-12 03:26:43 +0000 UTCIn my opinion, just paint what you want.i'm here because of your paint skill and anatomy.And sorry for my poor English :p
Elton
2016-02-12 03:26:37 +0000 UTCFor the megalist I was already getting very explicit requests (for coming waifus) so that's part of why I've considered bringing this question forward. To hear what the rest of patrons think about it.
Fegu
2016-02-12 03:24:49 +0000 UTCThat's very mindful! Thanks ; )
Fegu
2016-02-12 03:21:12 +0000 UTCChances are, if people are here for the softcore, they'll also be here for the hardcore. I suppose that you should get separate permission if it's someone's OC but other than that I don't think there will be an issue.
xiakha
2016-02-12 03:18:35 +0000 UTCMm, that could be a way to approach it. Thanks for the tips and ideas! I appreciate your view on it.
Fegu
2016-02-12 03:18:14 +0000 UTCNo, no changes planned. This would only be closer to what the original spirit of TierThree was intended to be. There still is meant to be a plenty of 'safe' or 'risque' pieces going on, so lower Tiers would get their share. But then I can expand a little further on naughtier things for T3 supporters. It's all meant to add to the fun (of interested patrons and my own!) not to take from it. ^^
Fegu
2016-02-12 03:16:03 +0000 UTCI agree with this idea of just slowly easing into it. it gives people time to decide if this is the stuff they like, while helping the artist transition.
Astraltyger
2016-02-12 03:14:34 +0000 UTCDoes this mean you'll be changing your tiers? Because currently it sounds like only the 15USD+ tiers will get the whole deal, and they're signed up for sexy anyhow.
xiakha
2016-02-12 03:10:27 +0000 UTCIf your worried on the transition to a more adult oriented theme with your artwork then just easy yourself into it (even tho everyone here is here for your art not so much theme) by doing what your doing now. Then slowly introduce the new stuff as the days go on. As an example ( not saying you'll do it this way, but ) do two of your original theme and one with an experimental theme. Other then that by all means do what you please, at the end of the day you art of the female form is amazing.
Tran5it
2016-02-12 03:08:21 +0000 UTC+1 Here, just in case the 'likes' don't stick like they do sometimes. ^_~
epyon_avenger
2016-02-12 03:08:09 +0000 UTCDon't mind it at all and agree with the suggestion to make a tier where it is included so patrons have a choice. Also, does this extend to the megalist?
Angelaaa Serrano y Gato
2016-02-12 03:05:49 +0000 UTCPOST for VOTING: "No! You do that and I'll probably leave."
Fegu
2016-02-12 03:03:20 +0000 UTCWell I think moving into a more sexual range wouldn't be a problem at all and it'd, like everything else here, would be a pleasure to see. You may, however, want to make a backer tier that excludes nsfw content; that way those who'd want to opt out may...hm...although that'd lead to quite a few extra backer tiers huh?
Hammerhead027
2016-02-12 03:03:09 +0000 UTCPOST for VOTING: "I don't think it interests me, but either way is fine, I'll support your choices."
Fegu
2016-02-12 03:01:58 +0000 UTCPersonally, I don't mind at all. Your art is mighty amazing all around. If you want to do more explicit art, by all means, please do so. You'll receive no complaints from me.
Viktor Mayrin
2016-02-12 03:01:30 +0000 UTCPOST for VOTING: "Yessss! Bring all the unleashed delicious stuffs!!"
Fegu
2016-02-12 03:00:44 +0000 UTC