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☎️ Phone a Snake: Your Unpopular Showgirl Opinions

The hotline is open and the Swifties are unhinged. This week on Phone a Snake, we react to your most unfiltered opinions about Life of a Showgirl: is the Sabrina collab just charity work? Did Taylor already set the bar too high? Does the album cover actually suck? Will “Wood” be the worst track on the record? And, most importantly, can the first good D really change your life?

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I totally understand the "uncomfortable" feeling that one UK girl felt towards Taylor's visuals for TLOAS. We haven't seen Taylor wear these kinds of fits, and I am LOVING it, don't get me wrong. I think it's SO hot, but I kinda get the whole "it's like seeing your mother or Jesus naked." We've seen this woman grow PHYSICALLY as well as mentally/emotionally SINCE her debut. This isn't the same girl talking about crashing your truck, AND THAT'S OKAY!! I think some people forget that Taylor is a WOMAN at the end of the day, and is ALLOWED to express her sexuality, and she does it tastefully too!

Geeta 🩵

I WAS JUST THINKING THIS ABOUT WE ARE NEVER- taylor is the blueprint for heartbreak music in the 2000's & 2010's

Haylee Duncan

i think a great idea would be to do a video talking abt the single choices you would’ve picked for each album and what you would’ve done differently

Kaitlyn MacGilvray

🙂‍↕️ We all live in Taylorverse 🪐 🌌 some’re in denial. Dictaylorship-benign $B Girl Boss 🫅🏼 beats patriarchy any day

Terry B

"Excuse me, I'm from planet Swiftie" is getting used next time someone tries to slander the queen to my face 😌

Abby

I think wood might be about the stage. Old stages were made of wood and I think that might be a nod to that.

Moonpetal

I know yall described Taylor’s prior work with sexual themes to be mostly “tame” and “restrained”, etc. but so far these latest album visuals are probably some of the least tame and most unrestrained album visuals of Taylor we’ve seen (and to be clear, I’m here for all of it) so I have to somewhat agree with the caller who said something about the impacts of “getting d’d down good” lol I too wondered if we might get a lot more of spicy Taylor than we have in the past for this new one. I also wonder if she might be feeling more uninhibited now that she feels more supported as well because I could totally see the heirloom turkey being snarky about even tasteful shots like these too and trying to stifle her simulated nude Bejewled ass (like literally but also figuratively too ofc 😆)

Miss_Lippy

Lol was just listening to that today. OMG so many bangers! I didn't realize he single handedly crafted my childhood. No wonder why Taylor called him a mentor

Juby

Jack was on kendrick Lamar's latest album, that was a shocker I don't see many people talking about

Juby

LMAO

Syd

They’re usually released at a later date!

Syd

joel little public enemy of the swiftie nation

Findley Kudick

I don’t see a tayvis phone a snake!

Shantini Vyas

To Zachary’s point about Taylor expressing her sexuality in songs, Taylor’s sexy songs are about her being embodied and feeling sensual. I find the focus to be more on her perspective and her feeling than on the proverbial partner/subject of the song, which is why I think they have a different feeling than say a Sabrina song.

Erin Howell

People are the worst. It’s not like this album will be XXX. And even if it is sexier than her other stuff I clap and I cheer! When Shawn Mendez is shirtless and all oiled up no one says anything. When Harry Styles has lyrics like “you’re getting yourself wet for me” no one complains. But Taylor “shows her bellybutton” and the misogynistic folks blab on. Grow up. She’s a woman. And she can do as she pleases. Go watch your church videos if you’re offended BYEEEEE

Isabela Krall

14:55 "Touch me while your bros play Grand Theft Auto" 😂

Syd Kendall

I heard Would've, Could've, Should've in a grocery store. It was terrible.

Kalyn

Madeline's face when Zac said she looks like swiftologist on the cover. I died 💀

Mavi💖

I don’t think it’s out yet. Maybe later this week

Ellajoy

I feel like “canceled” is a double entendre - her getting canceled for cancelling her Vienna show maybe?

Shantini Vyas

I thought Espresso was blocked by I Had Some Help by Morgan Wallen & Post Malone?

Ally ❤️

I love the Ophelia of it all in her main cover.

Ally ❤️

Yup: Gorgeous That’s the only one… and I bet Max would remove the credit if he could… what a nightmare that album is 😬

Ally ❤️

You silencing Madeline with “it looks like Swiftologist on the cover” is soooooo funny hahahahaha

Robin Vaughn

I do believe Max was on 143- he always asks for the writing credits I thought?

Ally ❤️

Pinocchio is known for his nose growing when he lies. Maybe Wood is about someone lying.

Celeste

Rep and Showgirl are the only two album covers where she is looking directly into the camera with that pulled back hair and no bangs.

Dana Hinton

I’m sorry but 22 and WANGBT are 100% grocery store music and it gets tiring to hear them in everyday life 2025. Doesn’t mean I wouldn’t dance to them at a Taylor rave.

caroline

It’s a famous quote by Laurel Thatcher Ulrich in 1976: “Well-behaved women seldom make history”

caroline

Where can I find the Tayvis video you mentioned? I’m looking for it and it’s not showing up anywhere.

Kristi

“I’ll tell you that for free” has entered my daily lexicon since I began listening. Thank you and I don’t forgive you.

Joshua Barrett

I will never understand Florida hateration

VadersPetPig

I am thinking that Sabrina would be doing the SB halftime show this year and Taylor would maybe just do their combined track together because she's going to want to be focusing on the game (assuming she's manifesting the Chiefs going to the SB again) then maybe she would do the whole show alone next year when Travis is no longer playing.

Michelle Your Belle! ♥

it probably doesn't have enough demand:(

allyn!!

Maybe this hateration about the album cover comes from the lack of bangs, the shock of Tayforehead

Mimi

Taylor said on the podcast for the world to hear: “You could throw me across a mountain, run to the other side, and catch me.” ….I hope and fear this will be her horniest album to date.

Elle Kaye

I stan the cover. I think it’s CUNT on its own merits, but I also love that she’s not chasing the same trends as everyone else

Elle Kaye

YES PLEASE LETS SUMMON THEM

Cassandra Griffiths

WAIT WHY NO PHILLY 😭💔 GUYS PLEASE I BEG

Cassandra Griffiths

🙂‍↕️ thx Madeline for a new motto Well-behaved women rarely made history… 🌟

Terry B

Ryan Tedder (One Republic) wrote for Adele and Beyonce: Halo, Rumour Has It 🙂‍↕️ 🛒 shoppers and Fast Food diners need pop music too 🤣

Terry B

Taylor is more of an album artist not hits maker like Rihanna, different approach 🙂‍↕️

Terry B

Madeline, your makeup is an absolute SERVE

Shannon

I hope Cancelled is a clap 👏🏼 back to (NFL, pretentious critic) haters and delusional stans 🙂‍↕️ Happy 😃 to hear happy vibes from her new album 💿 Black Dog 🐶 was heart💔

Terry B

True, Her exs are stuffy uptight broody… Her album’ll share kiki 🤭 SWEETIE (his nickname for her) mildly naughty moments— MAMA MIA diary 📔: subtle … 🤭🤣 She got a real life Superman (Trav can easily join superhero franchise)

Terry B

The cover is a GAG what are yall seeing?!

Britanii Heskett

Swiftologist on the cover 🛁 gagged 😶🤣 Patreon is the safe place to gently poke fun 🤩 Broad appeal sensual not deli meat shop 🙂‍↔️ I won’t worry her becoming male-gaze: girl boss’s fandom is pop girlies— loyal over time, safer bet than male gaze (wandering 👙 👀) stans 🙂‍↕️

Terry B

Rain On Me was huge: 2 divas. Glad there’s collab with Ke$ha — support — real woman’s world 🤣 Duet with Sabrina is mommy getting DIVIDEND from her successful Taydaughter 🙂‍↕️

Terry B

YOU WILL COME TO PHILLY NEXT TOUR

Hannah T

......... is she actually? I read a headline that said she is "pregnant with new music" 💀

Rachel

What you were saying about a single making or breaking a record is so true. Not to bring up The Weeknd for the 1000th time, but he/the label chose the absolute worst song for a single, ("Timeless") featuring Playboi Carti, who did not even hold the mic to his mouth when lip syncing at the shows I went to. He also ruined The Weeknd's Grammy comeback performance, which could have been the kickoff to a hit album, and reminded people how good he is. The song is ok and has its place in the story on the album, but it is typical old school, partying Weeknd + rap feature. The rest of the record is incredible, he belts like crazy, and it spans so many genres, but no one will ever know! I hope, like you, that TS does not drop a single. You know people will go IN on her and the record so quick... :(

CandaceBryantArt

I actually really love what Jack and Sabrina do together, I was a Please Please Pleaser over Espresso— I’m excited to hear what they do on the new album. Also, there isn’t a chance in hell that Jack and Taylor would not ever work together again, let alone, Aaron.

Kylee

taylor will never change but she’ll never stay the same either what are the folkmore purists not getting about that! that’s taylor swift fundamentals 101!!

Victoria weisheit

Also FKA twigs is pregnant. Breaking news

Chloie 😝

I’m going with Natalie Wood, especially if we apply her lore to the overarching assumed themes.

Kylee

The shattered glass is reminding me of German expressionist movies from the 1920s. The 1920s!

LH

The cover, particularly the font, reminds me of Sophia Coppola’s Marie Antoinette movie posters. I do think there is something linked about what Taylor is trying to do and what that movie was trying to accomplish. Also lol at Madeline’s silence after the cover/swiftologist comparions 😂

K

i concur that i also saw the swiftologist-taylor cover post. i had to log off after reading the comments 😞

kyla

maybe wood will be about ruined hollywood friendships with nosy liars

the wanderer

People who hate the album cover can’t understand they’re just seeing a slightly distorted version of her face because of the water, so they get confused and can’t compute the image

Chloie 😝

i must remind everyone regularly the last pop girl to get multiple number ones from an album was ari with yes, and? + we can’t be friends

Indy Behr

if 'Guilty As Sin' is anything to go by then yes I DO want all the sexy songs thank you, goodbye

Elsa ✨🩷

I hear ‘you all over me’ in the grocery store once a week…… I live in Southern California not Kentucky……

Sara Sweet

Lorde sabotage

Jonah Hauf

Oh guys about Max Martin, found this amazing video with his hot 100 chart history, so cool to revisit his legacy https://youtu.be/WoiI3jGMC9k?si=oNsqv9s8kNfJhe1V

Anastasia Davydova

It haunts me to this day that the Joel Little of Pure Heroine is the same Joel Little who made those criminal songs on Lover

Kendall Swanson

I’m 35 and I agree lol

lisam

Zack calling Joe a Barbie doll with nothing going on down there is sending me 😭

Theresa Mayo Tinaglia

Thanks snakes!!!! 🐍

lisam

Wood could be Natalie Wood. She famously played showgirl Gypsy Rose Lee.

Leslie M

LOL just got to the caller saying the same thing

Lexi

Sounds as a cool theory!

Anastasia Davydova

I saw a theory that Wood might be short for Hollywood

Cassidy Valenzuela

Wood is actually about 🍆

Lexi

Monday!

Zachary Hourihane

i love their mental illness

Zachary Hourihane

I can't believe you talked about the Pinocchio (AKA Shiny Bug is Jiminy Cricket) theory! I think the account that posted it was Tomfoolery Co. They make Swiftie-inspired merch, and I believe they're based out of the same city as me here in NC. I sent them a message telling them I thought they were delusional, UNTIL I remembered the song Wood, and then I started thinking, maybe there could be some truth to it.

Alli Johnson

the gaylors think the Pinocchio means she's lying about everything. AS PER USUAL lol.

Leah Rose

I will NEVER understand people complaining about The Life of a Showgirl being a pop album… I vividly remember the early spring of 2015, when my friend properly introduced me to Taylor with Style, Blank space, Bad blood, Wildest dreams. I was about to enter my own situationship (little did I know it would last for 10 years… …… ), and Style CHANGED my life They just weren’t there in 2014–2015…

Anastasia Davydova

wild that the new TV era swifties have, through the TV project, seen the wide array of genres and vibes in her discography, but are the ones protesting an all-pop album as untaylor 🫠

lilbirdiebb

I came here to say this.

Brandi Ricciardone

Wait guys is the tayvis episode coming later bc they’re talking ab it like its out

Tommy Due

loving the takes on the differences of how jack, aaron and max martin make music, this is such good food. also, i am intrigued with more imogen heap involvement in future projects, perhaps jahan sweet as well, lavender haze was so fun and groovy

hayleywilliamsmademegay

I’m thrilled with her gorgeous album cover. I was shocked to see so much body as everyone was. But I’m into it. I’m fine with sensual music. She’s never made any real bedroom music. It’s wild to me how many people treat her like a children’s artist. People in real life at my office say “oh yeah my 11 year old granddaughter loves her” and things like that. I’m GenX but I know I’m not too old for Taylor. She’s 35 people!

Dana Hinton

why are the newbies complaining - did they not see the huge pivot from folkmore to midnights?

hayleywilliamsmademegay

This episode was delightful, I love when you send callers to the snake den as TV swifties 🤣 I am seated for this album roll out. The waiting for Life of a Showgirl reminds me of waiting for the last day of school as a kid and the anticipation is so delicious. Between EOAS, Lizard Review, and Swiftologist...the Showgirl content is so top tier that I forgot a lead single existed😘 Also lead singles feel dated to me now - I enjoy consuming albums as full projects

Jen Lux

with "wood" - pinocchio is made out of wood and he lies and lies, and then it pivots to when pinocchio is a real boy... perhaps... or maybe it's just crass and funny

hayleywilliamsmademegay

Jack and Aaron are fine. They need time to work on their own projects too. I’m sure she’ll work with them again. As for Max Martin, he’s been really busy with “&Juliet” the last few years, so I think that’s why he hasn’t been as prevalent on the pop scene. It takes a really long time to write and launch a Broadway show. Now that it’s off and running he’s able to return to working with pop artists.

Erin S

You look like… the swifotlogist in this light… we’re loving it

Noah B.

Baffled that people hate the album cover, baffled people think it's too sexy, baffled that people want her to still pine over Joe and Matty Healy.

Maggie

I’m with Madeline on the album cover! I love it. I’m so over the trend where everything looks like Future Nostalgia Moonlight Edition/143/Infinite Icon. It’s like they all have the same aspect ratio or something. Ctrl+C/Ctrl+V

Tony

when is the unpopular Tayvis episode?

Vanessa

Bestie Zach and Mad we need a Florence + The Machine reaction to their new single. It's saur good ❤️❤️❤️

VadersPetPig

The word that comes to mind is sensual

Monique Rowe

this is gonna get me through the work day

Carter James

I seriously do not get the hate on the album coverrrr like I’m still gagged

Abby Voelk

the swiftologist comparison to the cover😭😭

Danielaaaa

"She looks like swiftologist on the cover" then staring at the camera cracked me uppp

ducky

i know i just got my food and i'm grateful, but when is the unpopular tayvis opinions coming out? xx

Zana

clocking in for a shift of EOAS 😝🫶🏼

Kayla Pickles


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