Attack on Titan The Final Chapters (part 1) Reaction Extended (YT links below)

Finally here after all this time putting off the finale lol. cried like a baby at hange's scene, and im not the type to cry watching tv or movies, so i came here to relive my pain with you.

Felix

Armin's like: "Sit your ass down, this isn't a romcom! We take action."

Arakis

The problem with this is The whole Yeagerist Faction Would not have happened if Eriwin had lived. He commaned that much respect. I firmly believe that one of the big reasons Eren made his political faction is the faild leadership on Paradise.

John Carrizales

a smart demon slayer viewer could figure out what your pfp was to some degree before seeing the movie

Jasmine Tea Enjoyer

so good to see a Reiner-Conny shoulder pat 2.0

Fredo_Credo

It's fine I changed it, but I wouldn't call it a spoiler because how are you going to know what it is if you haven't seen it lol. But all good

Ryuga

its a spoiler for those who havent seen the movie yet

Jasmine Tea Enjoyer

Maybe he fed them some spinal fluid

Alex G

I responded to this on YouTube but actually I need to think about it some more haha. It's so complex

Alex G

Falco talking about his new connections with the beast titan, and the memory of flying in the air above the clouds, just made me think "Maybe ZEKE has been the birds the whole time!" haha

Alex Begley

i don't believe that a so-called "closed loop" would necessarily negate the stakes of the series. aot's conflict is modeled after the cycle of violence, which knows no beginning or end, only inevitability, but there is still the individual choice to participate in it. a supernatural time loop may have "forced" eren to motivate his past self to start the rumbling, but the key word is "motivate" - as this episode reveals, a dark part of him still genuinely wanted to do it.

phaedra mladen

How is it a spoiler if you've never seen it...won't know what it is lol. More of a spoiler to draw attention to it

Ryuga

change your profile pic, spoilers

Jasmine Tea Enjoyer

Eren was presented the option to rumble the entire world's military might, which would bring economic collapse upon the imperialistic societies of the AoT world and ensure Paradis' survival for at least long enough when they could get their tech up to speed, and potentially form alliances during that time. It's shown at the beginning of S4P1 that Marley is not popular with other nations and their control over territory was slipping. The Declaration of War was in large part a ploy to take the heat off themselves and focus the world's attention on another boogeyman. Willy and Magath say this outright. The show explicitly mentions these things several times over. The writing is all there. Literally flattening the world and crushing children so their brains fall out is just so far beyond necessary to save Paradis. The Allies only dropped enough bombs on Japan to stop the conflict--notice the entire country wasn't wiped off the face of the earth.

Steve.

Yeah and I also think it was more so the execution of that ending that people, me included, are disappointed in. I think the ending makes perfect sense for aot, I just wish it was executed and written better.

Bighead

Let’s be real, Isayama is legitimately a dude that once said in response to an interview question of ‘what do you want to do when you’ve finished writing AoT?’ with “I want to open a spa with all of my audience’s tears after the ending” lmao. The ending was always going to be controversial and upset people, that was mostly intentional

Jake White

Mostly what people are referring to when they say they ‘hate the ending’ is just the fact that Eren’s character in the final chapters was no longer the Gigachad he was at the beginning of this season. And I’ll even admit that I was one of those salty nerds too when it first came out lmao it took me a few months to accept that my expectations were just skewed because of my bias to enjoying that side of him earlier on. I won’t spoil by going into details but yeah the crux of everyone’s complaints really fall on just Eren losing BDE status in the end moments lol

Jake White

@Jake White Yeah I don’t think its necessarily bad writing unless Isayama changed his ending in order to appeal to a wider more general audience which is what I have heard, a LOT of people really hate the ending and I can’t imagine that they are all just making it up. So we will see.

Jasmine Tea Enjoyer

There’s nothing poorly written about giving Eren 2-3 (all pretty bad) choices on Isayama’s part. It’s human and realistic for people to try their hardest and still not come up with the perfect solution. It would have been a poorly written ending if all of a sudden Isayama gave up that realistic approach to the human experience and had the crew pull some optimal answer out of their ass after all that was set up to get here. The story is a tragedy on all fronts; both for the people of Marley/the world who despised Eldians and treated them like animals and even the Eldians themselves, but also for Eren as a kid with unimaginable amounts of knowledge and memories dumped into his mind as a child and having to carry the burden of knowing the future this whole time while still failing to figure out a better path. It’s been a human tragedy from the beginning and is only completely fitting that it remain so at the end.

Jake White

Your comparison is flawed. Japan is more so Paradis in this situation, they had already lost the war, and had sued for peace. They just refused to accept an unconditional surrender, and the alliance refused to negotiate because it would look too bad politically to negotiate with Japan after the war crimes they'd committed. Regardless, an American invasion of Japan wasn't on the table by the time they decided to use the bombs, the Soviet Union was going to do it, the US just had second thoughts about what they were giving up in exchange for that invasion so decided to beat them to it with the nukes. Even in the context of the story, we're presented with alternatives. Not great ones, for sure, but better and less evil than the rumbling. And ultimately, the arguments that supported the use of the nuclear bombs all revolve around the idea that while destructive and cruel, it resulted in less deaths overall. Clearly the rumbling doesn't, it trades potentially 1 million lives, for hundreds of millions in return. Why are the lives on Paradis more valuable than the ones outside? Why do you assume you would be the ancestor of someone who survived on Paradis instead of a life that could never be lived because your grandfather lived in Marley and was crushed to death?

GLNK1

No

Chris Sharpe

Based good friend Eren

Jasmine Tea Enjoyer

Ayo the profile pic tho……

Rice

Except no he is t because he could accomplish the goal of protecting paradis without killing everyone but he refused the other plan because it meant his friend didn’t get a perfect life.

Mortis

Jasmine Tea Enjoyer

Hange's scene really hit hard. WoW

Ryuga

And Erwin probably would be driven to, just like Eren, that being the last option and ultimately he would've supported the Rumbling albeit being extremely sad about having to do it just like Eren clearly is.

Jasmine Tea Enjoyer

This show has some of my favorite meta moments. The biggest one that comes to mind is Pieck's "do you know who the real enemy is?"

Alex G

That's so cool. I'm happy to hear that!

Alex G

Like I said in the video, Hange's death is sad for me but not tragic. It feels exactly as it should be, it closed her arc in a way that makes me feel fulfilled and proud.

Alex G

First time I'm going to watch an episode first time with someone on Patreon without having actually seen it before hand haha, excited

Ryuga

My take is that, for the Yaegerists, it is the first option, for the Alliance, it isn’t an option, for Erwin, it would be the very last option.

Chris Sharpe

It happens! There was perhaps more deep thought going towards the serious subject matter 😅

bl0odm1st

I’ve seen a lot of people with the opinion that Erwin would support the rumbling and I don’t know what show they watched

Licorice Laces

Something I'd like to say about the subtitles: The scene were Eren says something like "If you want me to stop, you'll have to cut my spine" is a very weird translation. In all other translations I've seen he says "... you'll have to stop me from breathing". This most definitely isn't connected to the titans weak point. After all, Eren now possesses the Warhammer Titan, which means he doesn't even have to be in the nape (although he still might be).

Nils Meul

i've watched a hundred reactions to this long episode. which means i've watched hange die a hundred time. which means i've cried a hundred times. i've ran out of tears

Makima

The line that haunts me from this episode, is the one where Eren says he was disappointed about the state of the outside world, because this is also what happend to a lot of viewers/readers. I remember vividly when the timeskip chapters (start of season 4) first came out and a lot of people were not happy about the sudden POV change, the new characters, the loss of the familiar "confined setting", even though that's exactly where the story was heading... So, we were somewhat disappointed, too. We, just like Eren, also had different expectations.

Swanlady

I think what you said, "The path is clear and it is to stop Eren" is completely correct and in some ways I would think that Eren is the one that paved that path for them. Without him continuing to move forward creating a trail for the others to follow and catch up to him would the path be as clear? Similar to the theory you remembered from Pixis earlier in the story. Just a thought I had while watching. The Hange scene was also my favorite I think. Amazing reaction! Mr.Goodwin never disappoints!

Emman Reed

Haha yeah that sums up Floch pretty nicely for me as well.

Alex G

Throwback to the first time I heard about the show and thought it was a space adventure

Alex G

One thing I love about that scene is that Erwin is there already even without being there.

Alex G

While editing I was SO PISSED I didn't mention that

Alex G

That's fair - some of them I liked more, but others felt off. Especially Reiner's mom saying "her" instead of "him" or "Reiner," aha.

RationallySassy

I actually found these subtitles better than the ones I saw. They felt really natural and were more or less what I remember from the manga. I don’t speak japanese though, so I can’t speak on the translation quality.

Megan

Other than the odd subtitles - amazing reaction as always. I loved watching you go through the seasons from the start and you're one of my favourite reactors for this show.

RationallySassy

42:23 I can't believe Reiner's shoulder pat came back

thegreatquack

There is an interview from Isayama where he was asked what would happen if Eren just flunked out of the scouts after his ODM gear malfunction. Isayama said that Eren would live a rotten, unfulfilling life and die after 13 years. Eren needs this pursuit of freedom to stay alive, and I think that gives his character so much depth.

Chris Sharpe

SHOULDER PAT REDEMPTION

Jacob Cannon

@Goodwin, there is something really special to me about watching through these final parts with you, since you are the one who put me onto Attack on Titan by your reactions way back in 2021, and by extension anime. Because of that, I've encountered so many thought provoking and life changing stories like this. I agree that AoT is one of the most important works of literature this generation--the fact that it's controversial in its own time is proof of that. It wouldn't be important if the conclusion was easy. I would like to make a few observations about the episode: 1) The symbolism of Eren and Ymir both appearing as children as they commit the rumbling. Both of them grew to be adults, so why are they manifesting as children? Because they are both still lost in the trauma they endured as children, Eren losing his mother and Ymir being enslaved. They are both unable to move past that trauma and have joined hands to unleash that anger upon the world. In a word, they are still slaves. Adult Eren is unable to cope with the rumbling, so he reverts to his childlike mindset to blind himself to the magnitude of what he's done. 2. Also, I realized that chronologically, Eren asks Mikasa, "Why do you care so much about me? What am I to you?" right after he confessed all this to Ramzi. When he asked Mikasa that, he was searching for a reason she cared for him because he just admitted to himself (through Ramzi) that he's the most vile, selfish person in the world. He's so full of self-loathing now that he can't fathom someone would love him the way he is. 3. I think it's pretty clear that the future is not predestined by some outside force like Fate, but rather by Eren's own hand. That's the tragedy of his character--the boy who sought freedom is trapped in a cage of his own making. Technically, at any point he could've chosen to defy his future memories, but he didn't, so the future came to pass as he saw it. I think it was all set the moment he coerced Grisha to kill the royal family, that seems to be where all paths converged, and it was Eren's will to make it happen. As he admitted to Ramzi, "I wanted this. I wanted to wipe it all away." The future never changed, because Eren never changed.

Steve.

Also, I know Hange's death should theoretically be gut wrenching, but I somehow didn't cry maybe because of that last scene of her with Erwin and her comrades. That place seems far better than the absolute tragedy of the world. And I'm sure she's felt miserable and guilty as the commander of the scouts, so in a way it's nice to see her let go of that burden and sort of finally find peace. Not to forget, she went out blazing like a hero. Or maybe I'm just in denial. RIP Hange and also Floch; as much as I hate him, he went down a brave and loyal Eldian, sticking to his beliefs. Not sure if anyone noticed this, but those children clinging onto their very last coins referenced in the "My war" lyrics seemed to tie back to Ramzi and his brother this episode.

Bighead

The Eren Ramzi scene was so beautiful yet targic. Like Jake said, Ramzi didn't understand anything Eren was saying and yet to comfort and cheer him up, invited Eren and the others to a drinking party we saw in the last episode of the previous part. And that interaction almost makes me feel like Eren regresses back into his childlike self to avoid the pain and trauma of what he's doing, before he knew the harsh reality of the world. His child self symbolizes his ignorance and innocence that turned into blinding anger after the first titan invasion, his black and white thinking. It's also why we always see young Eren in the paths with Ymir. And that visual of Eren with the backdrop of the sky above the clouds saying "this is freedom", is almost like him moving forward with his head looking up at the clouds, avoiding seeing all the destruction caused at his feet. The juxtaposition of empathy you feel for Eren after that interaction but also anger when you watch the rumbling uncensored, is somehow such a masterful direction.

Bighead

Mappa really went above and beyond on this one. I was in awe the whole time. Even more so about part 1 and 2 in hindsight, the fact that they cranked that out in such a relatively short window of time. So I assume the castledoor that was left standing after the rumbling went past it symbolizes Eren leaving the door half open for the Alliance to stop him? You raised us well as Erwin enthusiasts, immediately had to think of you when I heard Hange's dialogue match Erwin's last moments and final speech. Can't describe how much I love her send off. I'm an atheist and it might be a bit hyperbolic of me to say, but in the moment and the emotion (through the tears lol) of seeing her meet up with everyone, I really wanted to believe that there is some place to go to in the end. Rationally it's just a coping mechanism, but I can totally see it being something to cling onto in a hopeless situation. Also loved the song choice from the season 1 OST "Bauklötze" during Hange's scene: Wir werden kämpfen, bis dieser heiße Wind unsere Flügel nimmt (We'll fight until this hot wind takes our wings away). Why do I feel like Armin knows Eren is listening in the scene with the seagull? He's just too smart. But following up Erwin and Hange... talk about standing on the shoulders of giants. His Colossal could stand on those shoulders. Mr Blause and the Fort Salta commander for presidents, to shoulder the sins of the past. Meanwhile Eren is burning down all the trees ever to keep the children out of the forest. He's not the brightest, but he tries. The biggest questions I have right now are: is time a flat cirlce? and how many people are dying in heaven because Sasha is eating all the food?

iaani

“His resolve is amazing. Asshole” LMAO I love that

Jabez Katsak

@Jake White Yeah, clearly Isayama didn’t study Ornithology.

Chris Sharpe

Also, god fuckin bless Mappa man. From the moment chapters 130+ of the manga started releasing, nearly everyone was like “holy shit how is anyone gonna be able to genuinely animate the scale of all this?” and they not only succeeded, but far surpassed my expectations.

Jake White

I feel terrible for Armin, all this time he thought him and Eren had similar ideals about seeing the world that they both read about, turns out Eren didn't exactly have the same feelings about discovery and understanding and twisted Armins child like goal into something terrible.

Scoola

Which is honestly hilarious because in reality, crows are hyper intelligent and playful/affectionate whereas seagulls are literal hell spawn lmao

Jake White

Something that’s a bit hard to pick up on from the constant usage of Japanese by every character lol, but Ramzi and Halil from the beginning were actually refugees that had only settled here recently after the collapse of the Mid-East allied forces in the battle at the start of this season. So Ramzi actually spoke a different language and had no idea what Eren was saying. He most likely just saw this random guy save him and then break down in tears and apologize over and over again, but that’s about it.

Jake White

The Reiner Shoulder Pat returns

Scoola

Ok you got some weird subs because the first line Mikasa says is "See you later, Eren", not "come back, eren".

_ scüp

“We’re gonna weld fuel??” That killed me 💀

Seth

Also, the show makes a few small, but great changes from the manga. They added more scenes to the rumbling for immersion (like the guy shooting himself), and they expanded on Hange’s fight scene and showed the Titans tripping over each other. In the manga, it showed Hange killing a few titans up front in the distance, so people started complaining that her death was unnecessary.

Chris Sharpe

The beginning scenes show the difference between Eren and Armin’s freedom. Armin described sandy snowfields, fiery water, etc. with joy in his eyes. Eren only sees the fact that he can’t get there, thus not being free. When Eren sees plains of empty footprints, he feels so much joy. Armin’s freedom is based on wonder and discovery, while Eren’s is simply the lack of barriers. The show has the bird motif, but it is different for Eren and Armin. The crow is meant to represent Eren, free, but an omen of death that feeds on dead bodies. When Armin was talking to Annie, a seagull landed near him. The seagull represents Armin, without the stink of death that Eren has, and is fittingly a sea bird.

Chris Sharpe

Fucking Floch... I hate him. He's a piece of shit. His actions are repugnant. But goddamnit I can't help but have a grudging respect for him. The things he does may be awful and totally misguided, but he is 100% convinced he's doing the right thing and he puts it all on the line to fight for that. His resolve is amazing. Asshole. lol

Xylen

God, the whole rumbling sequence in the first half is... horrifying. Haunting. I'm far from squeamish, I watch all kinds of violent shows, but that was uncomfortable to watch. It reminds me a bit of the scene from the Barefoot Gen movie when the bomb is dropped.

Xylen

this made the name of the show have a new meaning... attack ON titan... badum tss

i_am_jam

haha i didn’t expect you to cry until erwin showed up

Keegan Brakhage

So happy to watch you talk about Attack on Titan again.

Megan

That Reiner-Connie shoulder pat hit different this time

Nick

Watching this the other day I said to myself: damn Goodwin is really gonna love that the patented Reiner shoulder pat made a return!

bl0odm1st

If this type of choice ever becomes a real thing in our world, I wanna be the guy who showed Eren some cool picture books and now gets to live due to being chill with him. Its kinda like being purposefully nice to that one quiet, kinda scary looking dude in high school just in case one day you need to be given the, "Don't come to school tmrw" heads up, you know what I mean.

Jasmine Tea Enjoyer

A note since maybe it's confusing: The extended version is the full 1 hour special. But I split it up into two YouTube videos for copyright reasons

Alex G