ATLA Rewatch Episodes 17 & 18
Added 2021-01-10 02:00:08 +0000 UTCTimestamps:
00:00 - Episode 17 Reaction
24:10 - Episode 17 Summary
26:34 - Episode 18 Reaction
49:35 - Episode 18 Summary
51:11 - Reacting to my reaction
Comments
See, my take is this: the Water Tribe has always been rooted in firm community traditions--by its nature, it's a patriarchal, monarchy (like all the other nations). I'm not exactly sure why it seems so inconceivable given that many countries today operate in this fashion: where men are taught to provide and women to support. The Southern Tribe (as we see in season 3) shows that they were once a strong community itself where women were capable of fighting. It was more "modern" and willing to adapt. As for teaching women, yes, I think it's sexist, but the avatar may be the only exception given their significance. They aren't just some water tribe girl, they're *the* girl who is supposed to maintain peace between nations. I think the story had a good touch in connecting the necklace--that is, making it actually something important and meaningful than just some accessory. Even before the episode, we knew the necklace had some important meaning to Katara, so it was nice to see that it had more depth than just a bond to her mother. Furthermore, it sets up the Northern Tribe finally helping their sister group, which sorely needed aid. I don't mind this writing, and I don't feel like it's just shoe-horned in. Lots of nations have their own cultures and values, but this is the first time the Gaang has really faced a conflict with the government. We see this is actually a trend in all the other nations, so it's really not that surprising, especially in hindsight.
Soleil
2022-01-27 21:36:09 +0000 UTCI know this conversation is a month old but I always assumed that he learned some of the missing culture from past air nomad avatars through their memories (as seen in Korra) or talking to them like he did when he was on the lion turtle
Kadin Lebreton
2021-02-21 05:33:12 +0000 UTCI think you missed it, but at 12:54 you can see that the inventor is working on plans for the Drill. They set it up in season 1.
Drake Chuckle
2021-01-25 00:56:30 +0000 UTCThe Northern Airtemple has faced too much abuse- desecration, bombing AND lava :(
Bonzo Pippinpaddle Opsicopolis The Third
2021-01-12 01:34:04 +0000 UTCYeah, the South never had centralized rule/government until after the 100-year war; Hakoda was just a notable local chief until the South's reconstruction. Only the Northern tribe had royal figures/names -(North and South comics and the Kyoshi novels touch on this)
Bonzo Pippinpaddle Opsicopolis The Third
2021-01-12 01:09:51 +0000 UTCAang really had to flex on a handicapped kid like that lmao
benj
2021-01-11 07:28:02 +0000 UTCI know the struggle :D
Alex G
2021-01-11 02:55:58 +0000 UTCDamn Past Alex AND Present Alex making me rethink how attached I am to my things. Now I'll have to re-do my luggage taking things that I know I'm taking with me to the new city just because I want to bring everything with me.
Raysa Fonseca
2021-01-10 12:07:19 +0000 UTCIt may be broken now, but it'll be rebuilt one day! It's crazy to think that while all the events of ATLA go down, the women and children of the Southern Water Tribe just... keep living life as usual. It's maybe a little lonelier without Sokka and Katara, but it's kinda scary to think that the fate of the world is being decided by a handful of people you've never met somewhere you've never been and you can basically do nothing about it.
A Suresh
2021-01-10 06:31:22 +0000 UTCHe's prince of the watchtower at least :)
Alex G
2021-01-10 05:21:14 +0000 UTCI have not seen The Wind Rises but I am always up for Ghibli. I just looked it up on imdb and noticed Hideaki Anno (writer/director of Evangelion) acts in it, which is interesting. I have a younger sister. We had a somewhat different dynamic growing up, probably because we are much farther apart in age than Sokka and Katara (7 years apart), but we definitely took a lot of jabs at each other lol. I agree that Sokka and Suki is a lot better than Sokka and Yue. And I think part of that is time and the mutual respect they develop for each other starting early on.
Alex G
2021-01-10 05:20:26 +0000 UTCSomething I've always wanted to know: how the hell did the Mechanist know that Aang was exactly twelve like five seconds after meeting him?? (yeah I know it's just a writing mistake). Also, technically, Sokka is sort of a prince of the Southern Tribe, given his dad is the Chief. Though I don't think the south uses the same hereditary/dynasty type ruling as the North seems to in this show, so maybe not.
Aidan Pullen
2021-01-10 05:17:54 +0000 UTCYeah, in comparison to other episodes it seems forced. And that's a great point about Kyoshi and Yang Chen.
Alex G
2021-01-10 05:03:56 +0000 UTCKorra father was the son of the chief of the the NWT so assuming the line is the same one seen here is the core of the theory
Nerd King 101
2021-01-10 04:43:15 +0000 UTC"So one of my niggles with the Northern Water Tribe is that the gender separation seems arbitrary and out of place given the nature of ATLA's universe" Even deeper. Aang needs to defeat Ozai to do so he must learn waterbending. Is Paku trying to say. Aang disrespecting his culture is worth him not learning from the best teacher he can?! If Aang had boobs it would mean that everyone's gotta give up. He just won't learn? Aang's the Avatar. If he thinks Katara learning could help her help him end 100 years of war... Shouldn't they kinda listen to the Avatar who's trying to them there useless asses. There the one's who've been losing the war!
Nerd King 101
2021-01-10 04:36:11 +0000 UTC- Idk for how long Iroh must've thought Zuko died in that blast, but man that must've been hard for him. He had to immediately regret leaving Zuko by himself. Like once again, a son he couldn't save. - It's also hard to be an independent thinker when all is one and one is all. Thoughts and values don't occur in a vacuum. Generally, we tend to value protecting ourselves and the people closest to us. - I can't even imagine being an inventor with the capacity to create something that would kill others. Speaking of, have you ever seen The Wind Rises? (Would be cool to have a Studio Ghibli reaction series, but I know editing those for movies would take forever.) - Not sure if you've answered this before, but do you have siblings? I ask because as someone with an older brother, Katara and Sokka just feel so realistic to me. All their jabs at each other. - In terms of portraying love in media, Sokka and Yue is not super convincing, but out of all the characters I think Sokka and Suki actually portray love pretty well considering the show's target audience. They make a good team. And, unpopular opinion I guess but honestly, Mai and Zuko are pretty good too. At least with them you see conflict and resolution. (Pls no one @ me in the shipping war, I've seen it all)
Kotryna
2021-01-10 04:03:43 +0000 UTCSo one of my niggles with the Northern Water Tribe is that the gender separation seems arbitrary and out of place given the nature of ATLA's universe. When you have legends like Yang Chen and Kyoshi, and bending itself being a factor that clearly doesn't depend on gender, why would there be any sort of gender based discrimination? It feels out of place and just... sort of shoehorned in so that the Gaang can have an obstacle to overcome before the invasion proper begins. Sokka's sexism at the outset makes sense by comparison because all the men left for war, with Katara being the only waterbender there. Just some food for thought.
A Suresh
2021-01-10 04:03:31 +0000 UTCWell it seems like Korra's father was heir to Northern Chieftain, meaning he is in some way related to the royal bloodline which Yue is a part of.
Aaron Ong
2021-01-10 04:02:49 +0000 UTCI think it's implied that he brings the culture back through the Air Acolytes and through his kids. He may not have known everything there was to know, but he did live in that culture for enough time to be aware of a lot of it :)
Alex G
2021-01-10 03:28:33 +0000 UTCI'm not sure I'm following, but it seems likely that they are related in some way, considering the water tribes are not THAT big and Katara's grandmother is from the Northern tribe.
Alex G
2021-01-10 03:27:13 +0000 UTCI wonder how exactly so much of Air nomad culture and history was preserved so well for Tenzin to know as much as he did in Korra. It feels like Aang is the only one who remembers it especially seeing as the dad in episode 17 referred to the people painted on the walls as flying sky people instead of air benders. But Aang still had a lot to learn before he disappeared so I just wonder how he was able to pass down so much or where they got all this information. Was it explained in the comics?
Soren Monroe
2021-01-10 02:41:02 +0000 UTCSo in honor of Yue’s first appearance of the rewatch. There’s a theory that Korra is a distant relative of Yue. Cause if Yue’s father dies and doesn’t have an heir the chieftain might of gone to the next person in line for the chief. Meaning korras grandfather is related to Yue which means korra is related to Yue. What do you think?
hays collins
2021-01-10 02:37:07 +0000 UTCThat moment when Aang realizes the “air walkers” arent air benders felt just like when Rayla realized the moon lady wasn’t a miracle healer. Both those scenes are really sad☹️
Soren Monroe
2021-01-10 02:29:13 +0000 UTCLOVE how Aang just beach slapped that guy hahaha
hays collins
2021-01-10 02:22:39 +0000 UTC
