Supernatural 13x13 EARLY Early Access!
Added 2025-12-03 14:01:16 +0000 UTC
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Yeah, they do get the very versatile cast that can play many different versions of the characters. You also had Felicia doing some damn fine work as Darth Charlie, and Kim had a blast playing Jody possessed. We do seem to have plenty of Lucys in this. I figured you would favor when Lucy is played by Jared. I keep joking/seriously saying that I’m partial to Tim Curry as Lucy myself, though sadly we don’t get that in this show. And even if we did, by this point he’d have had his stroke, which would likely have ended his run on the show if he had appeared. Very good notes on how there’s the before and after with Lucy and the apocalypse. Where, yeah, before he had the calmer air to him, the focus. Then Sam foiled his plans, and it throws him off his game. And now there’s the desperation that wasn’t there before. And all his attempts to get back on top keep failing, and it starts to wear him down. It’s like in Star Wars when someone doesn’t dance to the Emperor’s tune or subverts his plans, he is genuinely thrown by that as he’s unused to anyone defying him. He at least generally gets by until he doesn’t as he then shifts into the cold fury and rage. Plus, unless something massively derails his game, he often has like five hundred back up plans when things go south. Contrast to Lucy who, as I say, his attempts to be top dog again keep backfiring, and he’s starting to drown in the despair. Things seem to be slightly looking up with teaming up with Anael, but he is a bit of a shell since he fell, and he falls in flame as the lyric in Les Misérables says. (Good use of your own with the pun by the way.)
Thomas Corp
2025-12-03 18:49:05 +0000 UTCOne other thing: I make the joke about the scene with the cake feeling like one of those goddamn Hallmark movies. My mom likes watching those, and when they shift to the non-stop Christmas ones beginning in mid-October, she really likes putting them on. Well, here’s now a rotten thing. Since I picked up the name to look for so as to brace myself for the displeasure of Ketch, (again, now I know how you felt when you would catch Curtis listed in the credits with the Metatron of it all,) I discover that he stars in a few of those Hallmark movies. Mom put one on, his name is listed in the credits, making me horrified as I say in my head, “What in the damn hell!?” and lo and behold, he’s there, and it is horrifying. So, now if Mom puts any of the movies with him in them, and I happen to be home, I will be stuck with the default image of Ketch, and I’ll have to STRONGLY fight the urge to dramatically hiss when I see him much like how Bela did as Dracula when Van Helsing flashed the crucifix. It’s also weird seeing Ketch and hearing him talk in a different accent than the posh received pronunciation.
Thomas Corp
2025-12-03 18:34:41 +0000 UTCOne of the things I really like about Supernatural is, they do a phenomenal job of giving us multiple versions of the same character, making them some of the richest, complex, diverse characters in media, because we get to see good versions, bad versions, soulless or demonic, or evil, or broken sides to these individuals. Sam, i think, out of anyone has the most alternate versions that we get to see - possessed by Meg in season 2, Samifer, soullessSam, Dark!Sam (aka demon blood Sam), Gadreel!Sam, but we also get Dean in the Endverse, Dean as a demon, Dean with the Mark of Cain, we get Cas as a leviathan, or Casifer, or Godstiel, or human Cas. Even Bobby, we have seen multiple versions of- possessed, as a spirit, leviathan Bobby, even briefly Apocalypse World Bobby. And it really says something about the sheer talent of these actors, for how they are able to take their same physical bodies, and so commpletely transform into these different personas or versions, to the point where you don't even see Sam, or Dean, or Cas under the new persona sometimes. But with Lucifer... the show does a really, really interesting twist on that multiple versions concept. Not only is the character Lucifer played by the most varied amount of actors (although, maybe an unpopular opinion, Jared's version was my absolute fave and I really wish we got more of it lol), but, at the core of Lucifer, I feel like we have only 2 versions of the Devil. We have the Apocalypse Lucifer, and the Post- Apocalypse Lucifer. The Lucifer we see in season 5, portrayed both by Jared and Mark, is a focused, driven Lucifer. He has a plan. He has a goal, and he is practically unstoppable in getting it. He's organized, ready, and you can tell this Lucifer spent every minute in the Cage waiting for Sam, waiting for his chance and he was going to take it. And then, Sammy stopped him. His own vessel, the one human promised to him, designed for him, the one being who was supposed to be on Lucifer's side, and, in his mind, guarantee his victory, turned on him, betrayed him and threw him back in the cage. And I think, as much as Sam was broken by what happened in the Cage, I think Lucifer was also broken by Sam's actions. Because that's when we get Post-Apocalypse Lucifer. Not counting Sam's hallucinations in season 7, because that was a broken psyche, and Hell scars on a soul, not Lucifer himself, every time we have seen Lucifer since then, he isn't the same Devil we met in season 5. In season 11, the first half, we get close to it. When he and Sam meet in Hell, we get flashes of the charming, cold, calculating devil. But when Sam refuses him again... Lucifer changes. He becomes erratic, disorganized, frantic and at the same time utterly uncaring. This is an angel without a purpose, especially after Amara and Chuck reunite. This Lucifer isn't as scary in regards to his deadly, quiet certainty and unshakeable confidence, but his unpredictability is worse. He's chaos, and manic, and thoughtless. He doesn't have his true vessel, he doesn't have his demons, really, he doesn't have a glorious purpose anymore. Lucifer has nothing, except Jack and even he has been taken away. This version of Lucifer is incredibly well done, and Mark does an incredible job of showing us, really, just how far Lucifer has fallen (full pun intended) since the Apocalypse
Elisia
2025-12-03 16:14:52 +0000 UTC
