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It: Welcome to Derry 1x03 Full Reaction!

It: Welcome to Derry 1x03 Full Reaction!

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Had to google the Stripes line to verify as I read it in the voice of Paul Reubens, and then thought, “No, wait, that’s not a line that he says. What’s that from again?” It is something about the carnival set-up without Pennywise himself. Again, I see the slingshot, I knew what was up. Was annoyed by its absence in the newer two-part film. Calling it being in the box is easy. Seeing that Shaw had it got me and Jess on the ball that he was Francis. Because how did he get it if not? A thought cemented with the reveals about Rose. Figured you’d likely surmise that Shaw is Francis before the reveal. Keep hearing people make those comments about Juniper Hill. Maybe we’re catching it during a quiet time. Henry didn’t like it. I anticipate that it will be explored more. One plus about the place is getting to hang out with the lady friend of Hawkeye. (But not the one my mind always goes to when hearing the name.) Heard she’d be in this, and she received billing in the credits, so, yeah, she’ll be back. For what remains unknown. Not seen the show you reference, though I deduced the show via the mention of Sharon. Quick IMDB helped. Waiting for more of a grip on the Bowers of it all before getting into that further. Hallorann is shaping up to be one of the biggest highlights of this. Good Pazuzu nod. Going back to Jaws, the dialogue scene with Hallorann, Hanlon, and Charlotte here is superb, and it makes me think of the big dinner table scene in Jaws with Brody, Ellen and Hooper, which as the years go by and I get older, the scene further cements itself as my favorite scene of Jaws. Setting aside how the age gap wouldn’t be AS frowned upon back then, as it is now, I assumed it was Hallorann just fucking with the guys. See if he has a picture like how Charles had the picture of him having dinner with Audrey Hepburn. Didn’t have any real issue with the dynamic of the first group of kids, but I agree that this current group is working much better. If written well, like The Exorcist, the parts where everyone isn’t on the same page can work, though it is nice to speedrun that here. Cool to here how you tackled the trope in your book. Rich had the good scene with Will, though now he is getting a great time to shine. (They say “Beep-beep, Richie!” in this more times than they did in both parts of the newer It, I’m going to be PISSED.) We do have strong investment in them. This even with knowing that their chances aren’t great given the prequel nature of this. Will being the only guaranteed survivor, barring alterations to the timeline. Then again, we all thought for sure that Ahsoka would die before Revenge of the Sith, so... we have options. There was a charm to the early 2000’s with the Disney Channel movies. Hell of a trip when you revisit some of them and discover in the one series, Howard Hamlin was the villain. Did share the thought of Pennywise would fuck with the kids by there not being anything in the photos. Did not catch the absence of Phil’s ghost. At this point, fine, I’m willing to entertain the idea, but I’m not committing to it. Sounds light years more plausible than #Tech Lives, give you that. Wouldn’t call this episode a letdown. It does feel like a calmer one before getting to the big fun that’s presumably to come. We’re both here for seeing Jess get so much out of this, so I’m with you on sticking with this.

Thomas Corp

Legend was very much in the "pretty bore" category for me. It only really comes to life when Tim Curry and his insane makeup appear. Stand By Me was my pick for the 1986 Best Adapted Screenplay winner, after A Room with a View did absolutely nothing for me. I've finished those now after seeing American Fiction, which I was pretty taken off guard by how it also involves dealing with a parent with dementia, and loved a lot, though it never had a chance for being my pick since that's the year of Godzilla Minus One. One of the first intended pieces of casting that I absolutely cannot picture is Lee Marvin as Quint in Jaws. Not least because we wouldn't have his big speech in its same form since Robert Shaw made his own additions. Word has come in that the plan is to make a second season about Pennywise's appearance in 1935, and then a third about 1908, so all the stuff here is setting that up. It's a neat idea and pretty much has to be pulled off better than Fear Street did it, so I really hope it happens.

Ryan

What can I say about this opening scene but, lighten up, Francis. Hey, it's a guy with that name in the military, I pretty much had to. I'm very impressed with this carnival putting something like that together seemingly without any help from Pennywise. And nice to see Muschietti clearly took note of all the people upset that Bev's big slingshot scene didn't make it into the films, and making it up to them. Every reactor I've seen called that the slingshot was in the box, though a couple were surprised at the kid being Shaw, so you're a bit ahead there. My mind immediately started working on what adult character he could be, and that leapt out as making the most sense. And boy, that second reveal of what Rose looks like as an adult was even more surprising than the first! I can't wait for the third time. Seriously, what the hell was that supposed to be? Gotta say, Juniper Hill seems pretty nice after all that buildup. Especially getting to hang out with Cora Munro, clearly seeing the attention her sister got for The Witcher and wanting a piece of it. I highly doubt they'd get someone like her for just this one innocuous scene, so whatever may occur, we're going to find her again. Just keep her away from Sharon Carter; that won't end well. This also makes Lily look even worse for so easily giving up Ronnie's dad, so hopefully we'll see a bit more of how bad it can be. Speaking of, the jail scene came off really weird to me. After the last episode went to such lengths to portray Bowers as a corrupt asshole who suspects Hank purely out of racism, suddenly everything about the way this scene is framed shows him as genuinely invested in crime fighting and being righteously pissed at Hank after finding a damning piece of evidence. And since that's all we get of the story this week, what the hell am I supposed to make of that? I guess we just have to wait to get a grip on it. Dick Halloran being added to this story is pretty much everything I could have hoped, and I can just imagine Pennywise thinking "You know, as long as I'm using this guy's grandmother I should say something like she sucks cocks in Hell. Nah, that one's taken. Lousy poser." Lovely to see the show have the confidence to just give him a long dialogue scene with Leroy and Charlotte purely about their own lives, nothing supernatural necessary. Though I do hope we're not supposed to take his claim about dating Aretha Franklin seriously, since she was only 20 in 1962 while Chris Chalk is pushing 50. After I had so much trouble getting attached to the first group of kids, this new group is working much better, and it's a huge plus that we're already through the most annoying part of any story like this and have everyone on the same page that something supernatural is definitely going on (in The Place Beyond, I resorted to making it an inherent part of the supernatural stuff that it makes people skip that whole phase and get to the part readers want to see). I'm rather surprised how much I got attached to Rich (reaching deep into the barrel for that name, huh?) after his lack of impression last week, and I'm fully invested in them all despite knowing they're basically screwed since Pennywise is still around when the Losers Club comes along and it's just a question of how bad their defeat is. Though I did have a very hard time getting invested in the climax here, both due to the effects that feel like we're watching an early 2000s Disney Channel movie (I guess the budget for the great effects in the first two episodes had to come from somewhere), and the weird choice to build the most tension around the one character we definitely know is going to live. I was also kind of assuming the whole time that nothing would show up in the photos, so the hot potato with the camera was actually a lot more fun on rewatch knowing there was actually a point to it. And I'll just point out again, Phil's ghost is nowhere to be seen despite the other two showing up. As you can probably tell, this episode was a bit of a letdown after how into the first two I was, but there's absolutely still enough going for it that I'm willing to stick it out. And seeing you get so much out of it is always a plus.

Ryan

Fantastic color coordination with the red. Addressing the not great news: I just noticed only a bit ago that the first episode’s reaction was no longer up. Rotten to hear that the brothers Warner are being unkind. Likewise, stinks to hear that the second reaction was claimed. Obviously, watching the fulls, it doesn’t strictly hamper things here, but I hope that things go smoother with the youtube uploads going forward. Now to this week’s episode. We do have the Charles Foster Kane applause with the episode being sans graphic birth shit. And Lilly is discharged from the hospital, so there are no awful needle scenes for now. We’re both happy there. You say, “The transitions in this show.” Yes, but said transitions in this show did miraculously distract you from the very quick snake appearance, so they got to be doing something right there, Jess. Yes? Hell of a thing with the rising tension with Francis. Like you said, you’re generally not that bothered by clowns, yet with this show it sort of puts you in your brother’s shoes with the phobia. “No, siree.” as you comment. Lots of panning into the darkness. Which is rather fitting for Pennywise, considering how over forty years ago, he was the big red guy menacing Mia Sara, the unicorns, and, oh, wait, right this is the newer Pennywise. Sorry. A jolt with the one form that Pennywise takes. He sort of looked and sounded like Christopher Lloyd. The slingshot: See, we had a different reaction to the slingshot. I saw it, knowing about the significance of the slingshot, and had a silent “Ah. Ok, show.” sort of response. You mentioned about, Lucas, was it? And you mentioned about that being Stranger Things before I could ask, “...Am I supposed to know who that is?” so that was a fun contrast. And we see how it ties together to Rose and Shaw in the sixties. You clocked that Shaw was Francis. That was my assessment as well. We differ when it becomes clear about that. It was confirmed for me when we see that Rose is the shopkeeper. Because the show was very pointedly not showing Francis getting killed. Combine this with how Rose did not have the slingshot, and Shaw did, the only possible explanation being that Shaw is Francis. Respect for the show for not even playing it up as any real surprise. They are two aspects of this unknown to me, so we are in the same boat looking forward to what’s to come. One thing I do know is the thing of Derry making one forget, and already they’re doing much better about that than part two of the newer It movies, still a bit mad about that one. It’s a haunting part of the novel. I mean, it’s one of the ways of the world: Friends come in and out of your life like busboys in a restaurant. Derry just seems to speed the process up more some when one leaves the town, and it’s unsettling. Shared reactions to the scene Bowers had with Ronnie’s dad. Quick note about the cigarette commercials mentioned: Honestly, James Coburn would be a good fit for cigarette commercials way back when, but yeah, Lee Marvin would be a Pall Mall man. We both responded to the remark Bowers made about insulting his intelligence; you saying, “Sweetie, you do that on your own.” and I dryly quipped, “That wouldn’t be difficult to accomplish, I’d imagine.” Seeing as you did not noticeably react to the name “Shawshank” I’ll refrain from jokes or reference to that on the off chance that you’ve not seen my dad’s favorite film. Carrying on from the last episode with the military plotline. You know I do believe that you very much do not share the optimistic appraisal of them being successful in these endeavors. They keep it up, and before you know it, the military is going to suffer the consequence when Pennywise plays a little night music for them. They are on the right track as evidenced by finding the vehicle from the Bradley Gang Massacre. Love how Hanlon does what he can to help Hallorann when the power of Pennywise shines too brightly. Loved that entire sequence, horrible though it is for Hallorann. Tense enough to make a man forget that he was going to make it out of this. I mean, we know he lives for at least another eighteen years after this, depending on the medium. Undoubtedly, during all this, at some point he hears a voice in his head, taunting, “They flooooat, they all flooooat. And when you’re down here with me, Dickie boy. You’ll!! Float!! Too!!” Him being over for dinner was a great scene. Love how Hanlon catches about his gift, and by extension, deduces that Hallorann was one of the masked men in the one attack/test. The men had the good talk. We continue to feel for Charlotte. Do like how Hallorann is diplomatic about responding to what Charlotte says about Hanlon’s thoughts on Charlotte stirring up trouble; how Hallorann acknowledges that he can see how it could be a concern. Which does not mean he feels that Charlotte would be wrong to stir up trouble. Bringing us to the kids. Like how Ronnie is initially hostile to Lilly then softens when Lilly shows the camera and shares the plan. Fairly good chances they had. We both did assess that Pennywise being the ham that he is, him posing for pictures isn’t the most outlandish thing in the world. They get Will and Rich involved. Funny how Rich clocks Will having the crush on Ronnie, and we get reminded of his own crush. Little fella really has the hots for Margie, doesn’t he? One thing for sure, we’re all just grateful that the one ritual did not involve any orgies. The climactic portion of this, yeah, not the scariest thing, but Pennywise does like to play with his food. He’d have fun with me, as I’d be faceplanting every other second as I can’t ride a bike. Stress kept rising and falling with the camera shenanigans, love your own reactions. Does lead to a nice bonding moment with the kids, though you continue to express fear about that given the emotional investment. I wouldn’t worry about Will. Unless this radically alters shit, when it comes to Will surviving, I’d say he’s in the clear. They get the pictures developed, and see the one has what appears to be a distinctive shape of a very familiar clown. Making me a wiseass, quipping, “Oh, blimey! I thought I smelled cabbage!” We both needed some more panache with the posing in the pictures from Pennywise. Regardless, the kids have something. Of course, there is concern about no one believing them. Another way of the world: We see what we believe, not the other way around. They could try showing the photos to the one lady in the hospital, considering her name is in the opening credits. But this is all a concern for next week, which all the best of luck to you with the copyright. Until then, thank you for another fun reaction, Jess.

Thomas Corp


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