This was a doozy for sure, I remember this ep airing & the online space was going BONKERS 🥲
Jack's World
2025-09-07 22:25:53 +0000 UTC
Good touch with the “Dean-ile” of it all. Think we can do away with the question mark with Rowena as she is not dead. We just get shown the charred corpse and a few locks of ginger? I doubt that even this show has gotten QUITE that callous, and that’s factoring in the horrifically offensive deaths of Charlie and Eileen. Not seen past this episode yet, but there are reasons, which I won’t be able to go into for a long while, why I don’t buy that Castiel has indeed rung down the curtain and joined the choir invisible. This season, comparatively speaking did settle into calmer waters. Rather enjoyed hearing your thoughts about the themes of the season, in addition to loving what Jess had to say about all of it. Then this episode doth kick up a notch, slapping one across the face harder than when Will Smith smacked the shit out of Chris Rock. As I say, I am greatly disappointed by Crowley’s death. I understand they needed a demon life, so why doesn’t he just pop off and grab any old demon? If the spell genuinely needs the life of a demon at his power level, that’d make sense why he sacrifices himself, but they weren’t terribly clear on that one. It feels like they just were determined to kill Crowley, albeit not as offensively as they were with Charlie, and now seeing it, I don’t blame Mark for his dissatisfaction that he’s talked about with it. His final moment itself is good; I just would have liked a better build up/better spotlight for Crowley for his final hour. Keeps the trend of my favorite characters of this show having not particularly satisfying deaths, which to be fair, does sort of tie into the themes of the show. At least Bobby got one hell of a last hour of fighting against his death long enough to impart the information to the boys, much though that episode is one of the most painfully realistic and hardest to watch things ever. I almost, I almost couldn’t watch the full thing as it got too real. The not having any time to process Crowley’s death is another complaint. The same could have been said for Metatron, though that’s offset by Curtis getting the phenomenal episode before that. And the death itself: first how Sam initially rejects Metatron telling Sam to go without him by having the “A good soldier never leaves a man behind” sort of mentality in response, and only does leave without Metatron after he more or less admits that he knows he’s going to die, yet has the “I got this.” line, which Sam had that great nod of respect to that one. And you can tell that Metatron knew that the trap wasn’t going to hold. He was just trying to buy enough time for the others to get to safety, and doesn’t anticipate how fast Amara burned through it, leading to his resigned final words that Curtis sold well. Contrast to here where Crowley’s sacrifice feels far more abrupt, though again, Mark does in fact get a good final moment, especially his farewell to the boys. And in further fairness, hard to imagine what would have been a death for him that I’d envision would be the more satisfying death. Still reasonably new to this fandom, so I’ll take your word on this finale being a rite of passage, which, if that’s so, Jess weathered the storm very well. Now within the next few days, I’ll have to see the next episode. See how that goes.
Thomas Corp
2025-09-03 17:44:47 +0000 UTC
Mary- Gone.
Kelly, Rowena (?), Cas, Crowley- Dead.
All in one episode. Supernatural has given us some brutal, gut-punching deaths before (Bobby, Charlie, Ellen and Jo etc), but this was just a pure bloodbath. I was absolutely flabbergasted the first time I saw this episode, so I completely empathize with the speechless horror and Dean-ile you feel lol. Watching it back, though, I love the sheer brilliance of this particular finale. What i really, really love about season 12, is that, after the sheer grandness, and epic scale of season 11 (Meeting "God", Amara, witches and demons and angels teaming up with the Winchesters etc), season 12 took a step back, and brought everything back down to calmer waters, so to speak. Focused not on some big Apocalyptic threat, but went more of the early seasons route- hunting monsters, saving things, good vs evil. What seperates hunters from the evil that they hunt. It is a very grounding season, in my opinion, that brings us back to the roots of what hunting is supposed to be... and it really is like a palate cleanser from Cosmic Beings, and Mark of Cain, and Hell Trials. It is like a reset. And then.... BAM! This episode hits you, and it hits you hard. This is the episodic equivilant of a bitch slap lol. And i feel like it works, so well (from an entertainment perspective if not an emotional one, because... this is just sheer emotional torture lol), because the stakes had been lowered. Sure, "Jack" as Kelly named him, was a looming threat, and Lucifer was in the background, but the season did such a good job of having them as the gathering storm in the distance, that when that storm hits, we aren't expecting the intensity. Rowena is the first few raindrops, and then... Crowley is that first clap of overhead thunder that makes us jump and realize "oh shit". And by then, we are trapped in the storm, no way to prepare for what might be coming, because its too late. We were conditioned this season to not expect the doom and gloom. Unlike season 11, which was steadily built to the dramatic crescendo (and then faked us out with Dean being all reasonable and talking it out), or season 10 which again, we knew going into the finale that things were going to get dark, and intense, or season 5, which we all remember all too well... this finale literally goes from 0-100 in 60 seconds flat. I feel like they really, really managed to capture that season 1 finale feeling... where just regular, run-of-the mill hunters suddenly realize just how much bigger of a playing field they are actually on. Just phenomenal. And, of course, painful. I feel like this is one of the mile markers of the show, a rite of passage for all Supernatural fans. So, Sesska... welcome to the club lol