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[Reality] Produce 101 S2, Ep 6 Reaction
Added 2021-03-26 06:19:54 +0000 UTC🔓Password: jeff
Ooo lots of drama this time aroundddd. Eeeeek!
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Ahaha i am so late joining your patreon and i feel sad when you said that my Ponyo (sewoon) was rigged. But again i got it since you probably knew daehwi, dongho, and minki first so you knew what their capable of. But Ponyo was drawing a lot attention that time too. He’s still active now and he’s songs are very pleasant for ears. Arriving here at the comment section i am happy many supported Sewoon. Thanks for the reaction
Nikmah Hariati
2021-12-06 04:22:20 +0000 UTCi was thinking about that as i was rewatching that performance it actually felt really hard to rewatch after seeing him say that line because of what happened :(
shaunamac
2021-11-19 11:57:11 +0000 UTCLol coming back and rewatching a few months later. So just wanted to add about the whole "trying new things" in a competitive setting. I get where you're coming from and in a way I do agree with you. A person wanting to "try" something they haven't done before, in this kind of competition setting, often forces the extra burden of TEACHING someone on to the teammates, who at the end of the day, are also in competition and have their own survival to worry about. Like, I don't think there's anything wrong with doing a position that's not your usual to "show a new side of yourself" but it shouldn't be something you're going in blind with no experience. For example, 1:43:00, this performance you have Youngmin, who's position is rap and have Dongbin who's never really rapped. You also have Donghyun who's a vocalist but coming from a hiphop label known for their rappers, he has some rap training. Donghyun, I think is the perfect example of someone who chose a position that wasn't their strongest BUT, he had the skills to back it up and was able to show a different side of himself without being a total burden on the team. Dongbin on the other hand, threw himself in and had to be carried by the other 2 members. But on the bright side, I think because of this experience, he did end up becoming more of a rapper and I believe took on rap when he was on Produce X 101.
Secretninja312
2021-09-15 03:30:47 +0000 UTCYou probably know this by now but Nu'est was practically unknown at the time they appeared on Produce101 and they had gotten a lot of hate for appearing because they are "veterans". It's through this show that people know who they are today. Their fanbase was so small at the time, it wasn't enough to sway rankings, so any votes they got on the show wasn't because they were part of Nu'est, they got those votes because they won people over. Jonghyun's #1 rank in Fear was earned through his rap not because of the Nu'est name.
Secretninja312
2021-07-17 02:12:34 +0000 UTCat 2:13:49 Moonbok said "Even if this is my last stage, I'll bring Hyunwoo's Dream with me." This line hits different watching this again and knowing that Hyunwoo, who ranked 61st in the first elimination, was actually the 1 trainee who's ranking was manipulated out during the elimination, so he was supposed to still be in the competition except he was pushed out by the Producers from some reason. Also wanted to add that the friendship between Moonbok and Hyunwoo from the Call my baby team was precious (Hyunwoo was the one that piggybacked Moonbok). After the show, Hyunwoo actually ended up joining Moonbok's company and they debuted together in a group called "Limitless" but unfortunately, the group never really took off and I believe they've disbanded. Also, I know there's a lot of talk about the entire show being manipulated and I know you've already finished the show but, not all questionable ranking was manipulated. In this season, only 2 trainee's ranking were revealed to have been switched, Hyunwoo's in the first elimination, and I'm sure you know who in the finale. But also, like you've noticed, how a trainee is edited on the show also played a huge part in their image and ranking. Mnet was truly evil to a lot of trainees and caused a lot of unnecessary drama
Secretninja312
2021-07-17 02:01:58 +0000 UTCwhen you finish this series, i'll tell you who got rigged out of the final group XD
onyx.
2021-06-07 12:02:31 +0000 UTCWill you continue reaction to produce?🥺
Aom Promkunakorn
2021-04-30 12:23:17 +0000 UTCIf there's something Mnet hasn't rigged, it's the voting for the few hundred members of the audience during these evaluations. The PWF ranking was actually accurate, and it was just coincidental that Sewoon and Baekho had a storyline together for that week. Sewoon's just naturally talented, and like many others have mentioned in this comments section, Daehwi's reputation was taking an extreme hit during that time for lots of ludicrous things that Knetz come up with. Jonghyun also deserved the votes from the Fear group because he was actually quite popular at the time, even without the NU'EST ties (they were not big yet in 2017). He just stood out more from Guanlin during the performance, and it'd be fair to say that the previous episodes definitely did Jonghyun's edit and reputation a lot of favors. With that said, this episode's editing was just very inconsistent. Portraying Jonghyun and Youngmin as saints while almost completely ruining Baekho's and Haknyeon's characters, like... this episode almost single-handedly knocked both of their reputations into the ground. They were still very popular, but... yeah. Voting manipulation re: Baekho aside, this episode did not do him any favors, and like many NU'EST fans have mentioned before, it's just horrible how he was highlighted so badly on the cutting room floor.
Matt Vesliño
2021-04-29 19:08:14 +0000 UTCwaiting for the next episode <3
Tinker Think
2021-04-06 07:28:08 +0000 UTCjust so you know Jeff. Nuest wasn’t popular when they went on produce. That’s the whole reason they went on Produce so jonghyun (jr) didn’t gain those rap votes because of nuest. He gained them because he is a phenomenal performer ❤️
Doyoungismyult
2021-03-28 22:20:37 +0000 UTCPlease react to the next episode for produce 101 so you can complete this cycle of performances
Karina Kim
2021-03-28 22:03:05 +0000 UTCIt is doubling. That is a term lol. Also...Leeteuk is the Leader of Super Junior
Doyoungismyult
2021-03-28 21:42:25 +0000 UTCNoooo this coincidence makes me sad to think about :(
Layla123
2021-03-27 06:42:06 +0000 UTCJesus... I didn't even think about that!
BaoziBang
2021-03-27 00:52:53 +0000 UTChow ironic that youngmin's line was "hey, i think im a bit drunk" 🤧
h.
2021-03-27 00:06:03 +0000 UTCdongho actually says doubling!
h.
2021-03-26 23:16:25 +0000 UTCHi Jeff, I always loved your videos. I remember rewatching this season just for Youngmin, the one from Brand New with white sweater. I hope you can remember him too. Also, english subtitles including who’s singing are present for all the rap and vocal team. Lai Guanlin’s group has a melodic rap thus the lyrics are emphasized. I must say though, I knew no one prior watching this season so I believed, and still, Sewon deserved his place for Playing with Fire. Not rigged at all. He has a good ranking, and quite known. Since you knew couple of Produce boys beforehand and knew what they can do, what comes across to me differs to you. I hope you can watch Episode 7 to wrap up the second elimination, and not to stop in the middle of the performances. I’ll be here for your Kingdom reactions, fighting!
Krizzy G
2021-03-26 22:38:13 +0000 UTCYes please Jeff he showed his new house that he moved into 2 weeks ago only
XSHINeeBAP
2021-03-26 22:01:51 +0000 UTCThis episode did hankyeon and dongho dirty, so much evil editing. REALLY so much. Hankyeon got sooooo much hate for this, dongho as well. They keep focusing on their faces, taking moments out of contexts
Ana
2021-03-26 21:09:28 +0000 UTCWould it be possible for you to react to episode 7 before you start kindom and then pause so at least you could finish this section of the show :( I think it would be better since the next episode will also have the next round of eliminations
Lulia
2021-03-26 20:03:46 +0000 UTCCommenting again because I love the Shape of You performance and it was actually shown at the very last (the stages weren't filmed in the order they were shown) and the fact that it got an encore from the audience (the only performance that did so) - that performance deserved it so much! I want to take this chance to spread the word that Taedong (who got 2nd in this) is actually going to be debuting in the next few weeks in the upcoming project group Omega X, which includes a bunch of other guys from groups like 1TEAM, 1THE9, Limitless, Snuper, Seven O'Clock, ENOI, and Spectrum - it'd be lovely if we could all check out their debut!
Layla123
2021-03-26 19:53:34 +0000 UTCThese votes were the live audience’s vote so it wasn’t rigged. He appealed more the the audience so they voted for him plus there was a lot of crap going on with Daehwi online.
Estherlynn Lubin
2021-03-26 19:36:30 +0000 UTC1. If it weren’t for this editing Haknyeon could’ve debuted in Wanna One. Even if he’s doing well now I’m sure that all the hate he received because of this editing affected him a lot. 2. Youngmin and Yongguk were such good kids during Produce and they were doing well even after Produce. If it weren’t for their wrong doings (DUI, pet abandonment) they could’ve hit bigger. Especially for Yongguk I’ve never imagined he would be so different from how he’s portrayed in Produce. 3. I don’t think the vote was rigged for Daehwi. People were nitpicking him so much bashing his appearance and saying his personality is problematic etc. Because of all the haters, people were even speculating that he will be the first center (of the theme song) who wouldn’t be in the final group.
Nomin
2021-03-26 18:59:23 +0000 UTCJeff, Leeteuk (the stand in host) not only hosts a lot, but is the leader of Super Junior!
Angel Burns
2021-03-26 17:25:37 +0000 UTCJust wanted to mention that Haknyeon got a lot of evil editing in these couple episodes cuz Mnet and Loen (Creker’s parent company) had a rly bad relationship at the time. Haknyeon has a slower learning curve (even in TBZ) and they only showed the parts where he was struggling to keep up with the rest of the group, but many of the staff members and trainees testified that he was staying up super late practicing over and over which they never showed in the show. Haknyeon got sooo much hate from Produce, even death threats and inappropriate/harassing comments towards his mother, who was managing a pig farm as a single mother since his father passed. People called him lazy and greedy while he just learns slower than most. It was a rly dark time but I’m glad he’s doing well in the boyz, I couldn’t see him anywhere else! :)
Holly
2021-03-26 16:39:49 +0000 UTCYO!!! next episode was so good!! But that's fine we can wait ☺️ I know that it's hard for you as well because that was such a cliffhanger! HAHA We understand so no pressure!
eve_ss
2021-03-26 14:58:09 +0000 UTCBTW, the songs that the dance teams used was also sang/recorded by the members themselves. 🥰 (I guess to avoid copyrights?) I just hope they showed like small clips behind the recording, but I understand also since they have limited time and they should focus more on the dance aspect.
eve_ss
2021-03-26 14:53:37 +0000 UTCRight! That's why we saw decrease on his votes. So at that time, yes it was really possible that Sewoon got more votes than him.
eve_ss
2021-03-26 14:50:23 +0000 UTCNo I didn't. There are a lot of possibilities when it comes to ranking manipulation. Of course it is rigged when someone is pushed out of the top 11, but it still can be counted as manipulation even if they move a trainee from no.5 to no.7. Baekho could be a victim of any of these things. Besides, I didn't say anything about whether Baekho was in the final lineup or not, whether he was given a debut spot or being pushed out.
Rose Bee
2021-03-26 14:21:51 +0000 UTCwelp you just spoiled him there
Shia
2021-03-26 13:53:32 +0000 UTCOmg i love how we have different topics in almost every eps i feel like learning new things with you every week!:D Jeff if you didn't know already, Chungha actually debuted through IOI first before she debuted as a soloist!!! That's why she is there as a Produce 101 senior! The Boyz hasn't debuted when this is going, Haknyeon was actually with them since the start! There's a mistrans when the trainer said "you don't look pleasing to the eyes ??" to Yongguk, i think i might have forgot what the trans exactly was but it was the one that you said was not a nice thing to say directly at his face, what she actually said was he doesn't stand out (bc he couldn't bring out his energy to the fullest due to his lack of confidence). I don't think there's a mistrans in the Playing With Fire team tho, the plot hole might get lost in the editing itself. I'm not siding with the PD101 but only the audiences present in the live performances who can take part in the votings held there which is only like hundreds of people. If these people's bias is not in the group who's performing, they tend to vote for the people who stands out to them the most in the performance itself, so it can be somehow "fairer" than the elimination rounds since they judge based on their performance at that time only.
Shia
2021-03-26 13:50:31 +0000 UTCyeah,, even as wannaone he is still getting this hate,, I'm a wannable and tbh it hurts coz he is just so sweet..
Shelly Andy
2021-03-26 12:37:44 +0000 UTCYeah and I'm so annoyed by it to this day - the dude is a star, he's so captivating. Sigh :(
Layla123
2021-03-26 11:27:31 +0000 UTCI mean, Mingi literally had a little over 10 minutes of screen time throughout the whole show...
sunflow_R
2021-03-26 11:13:55 +0000 UTCVocal doubling is actually a term that they were using - I've heard of it in the context of arranging a track or vocal processing, not necessarily with regard to a group of people simply harmonising with each other in general, but what Dongho was pointing out there was that only two people were supposed to harmonise at that part but they were adding another voice underneath to make it sound slightly 'thicker' in order to achieve the effect they were supposed to but which they weren't able to initially hit with just the two vocals. I'm glad they all worked it out back then. I skipped ahead to see the PWF performance quickly and I just need to say I am sad they did not show Minki (aka Nu'est Ren) going off on the side during the high note lol
Layla123
2021-03-26 10:24:22 +0000 UTCDaehwi got a ton of hate at the time for sure - him being the first centre, the 'Avengers' business which painted him as very arrogant, and also for his visuals (which... come on people). Sewoon was well-known both because of his previous stint on Kpop Star, his friendship with Jaehwan, and coming from Starship + he's very cute and funny too. I love both of them and the way their whole team was painted here was a little heartbreaking (especially with Baekho and Ren too - they didn't even give Ren a mic during their team discussions....)
Layla123
2021-03-26 09:56:49 +0000 UTCI was rooting for Hyunwoo and was sad he got eliminated. Thanks for sharing this info.
Meghan
2021-03-26 09:34:21 +0000 UTCThe ranking for PWF team actually made sense, since Daehwi received a huge amount of hates because of his "aggressive attitude" and "center controversy" in the previous episodes. His ranking also dropped a lot at that time. And about the rigged problem, I would like to mention that they did reveal all the trainees who were impacted by the vote manipulation during this season: - Hyunwoo (1st elimination). He was the one that Moonbook talked about in his lyrics - Baekho (final ranking). Sadly they didn't reveal his real ranking before the manipulation.
Rose Bee
2021-03-26 09:17:48 +0000 UTCactually Daehwi at that time if I remember it correctly got not so good comments from knetz.. and Jung Sae Woon is kinda anticipated for the top 11 because 1. he came from a survival show previous 2. a lot of pd fans likes his voice and arrangements.. someone can correct me but this is what I gathered when I watched this show that time.
Shelly Andy
2021-03-26 09:09:00 +0000 UTCI hope you react to shinee keys I live alone
Anny Maria
2021-03-26 08:33:06 +0000 UTCI agree also it would be a lot harder to remember things if he's gonna stop midway in the performance once he will continue reacting to produce since it'll be a pretty long time for him to get back to produce. It'll be much better to just pause on the eliminations since it's not as interesting as the performances really.
Beggar Yuchan
2021-03-26 08:01:11 +0000 UTCI think maybe do ep 7 next week just to get over this round of competitions done cause after is eliminations again and you can wait since it wont be in the middle of a performance round and then do kingdom too if you can, this next ep is one of my fav produce eps in all of the produce seasons.
Jupiter
2021-03-26 07:58:37 +0000 UTCAww Jeff I feel you didn’t i told you episode 6 is the worst time to pause because its starting to get good and just wait for that I.O.I performance of Downpour composed by Woozi of Seventeen 😍. Well that can wait! On to Kingdom we go waiting patiently for the start of your reaction ☺️
Ival Belarmino
2021-03-26 07:24:51 +0000 UTCFun Fact: The song Downpour by I.O.I is actually produced and co-written by Woozi 😭 This is the song they released before their disbandment.
arianaisventi
2021-03-26 06:57:28 +0000 UTC
