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Next ep is one of my favourites, I'm anxious to see if they love or hate it!
Cooper Vision
2025-01-09 13:17:47 +0000 UTCOn your discussion about Picard and Riker command styles and perhaps how Riker is closer to the normal Captain style of Starfleet and Picard is more unique. Thats it all in one. That is why Picard was chosen to be the captain of this Flagship at this time, Starfleet was identifying the new era and found their perfect face. This further seems true if one finds official star trek maps and track the movement of the Enterprise through TNG - its essentially a parade of the chosen Starfleet face and the new Flagship in a big circle tracing the entire border of the federation. It's just lacking trumpets and waving flags.
Ben Smith
2025-01-07 19:20:29 +0000 UTCTo your question: "Do we know why they were spared in the cave?" My thoughts, two possibilities. A - it was full, or deemed it too much energy wasted to get to them for such little energy to be consumed. B - it sensed data and assumed it was Lore or at least, data/lore are something it feels 'familiar' with I more lean toward option A - we see Great White sharks chase schools of fish which dodge it easily, eventually it gives up as the energy lost will not equal the energy gain, despite the fact that Great White Sharks never actually stop moving. Even when sleeping, its trippy.
Ben Smith
2025-01-07 19:12:39 +0000 UTCI'm not sure the two truly correlate. if I recall correctly (could be wrong) the mining facility in Devil in the Dark was a primary source at the time and Kirk had direct orders to get things back on track. Essentially that would mean by any means necessary. When giving those orders Kirk does seem to follow more blindly than Picard would until very well challenged on it. In this episode Picard has no orders, so he is trying to gather all information as much as possible so he can understand all angles before making a decision. Also note that in kirks time they had just come from a period of three massive wars over a period of a century, they were a little more quick to kill to defend themselves. (they were always confusing about the klingon wars as the canon always contradicts itself there on the klingon wars) But Romulan War and possibly two klingon wars between 2160 - 2250's and something small with the Tholians and Gorn in that timeframe as well. So two big wars and maybe 3 smaller ones. By TNG time, the biggest wars they had in recent memory were more smaller prolonged border skirmishes. The cardassian border war was less of a war and more just a series of skirmishes. Less hoo-rah and less experience with the darker angles of our soul.
Ben Smith
2025-01-07 18:58:56 +0000 UTCI think that when considering how she "blames" or is at least suspicious of Data at first we need to remember that this situation really isn't all that akin to meeting the sibling of a murderer... everyone we ever encounter in the series consider Data and Lore to be unique and one of a kind, and of course there are several episodes in the first four seasons which are based on this idea. This means that 99.999%+ of people who are going to encounter Data have no frame of reference for him and can only think of him in the context of whatever standard robots/technology they encounter in daily life. In other words, someone like Dr. Marr here has no real concept of the extent of Data's individuality. Everything about her and almost everyone else's experience probably tells her to think of Data as someone who would be expected to function the same way as Lore. What we do see is that as the episode goes on she starts to accept him more and more and I think the main part of this is simply that as she spends time around him she comes to know him better and so to understand that he and Lore really ARE more like natural brothers than they are like identical pieces of technology.
Shane Coombs
2025-01-07 08:03:19 +0000 UTCWell they were ALMOST able to communicate with it. Made it AWARE it was killing other sentient life. Maybe they could have stopped it USING THEIR WORDS!!! Which was Picard’s entire point with the cuttlefish analogy. Once it was made clear it was not mindless cosmic locust and it was possible to communicate, the option to just kill it immediately should have been off the table. They could have made first contact with a new and wildly different species. But now they will never know. Because it’s fucking DEAD. 😑
StealthMomo
2025-01-07 01:09:15 +0000 UTCI think it would be interesting to re-watch "Devil in the Dark" and then compare it with this and focus on the captaining styles of James T. and Picard.
Captain Proton
2025-01-06 17:53:37 +0000 UTCAlex, we are 100% of one mind on this one
Captain Proton
2025-01-06 16:28:33 +0000 UTCI didn't agree with Picard in not killing it. Probably the only way to get it to stop killing everything on a planet.
Joe Ibrahim
2025-01-06 16:12:04 +0000 UTCI think that it's BOTH the character of the doctor and the actor who played her. Character = too predictable and one-dimensional. Actor = didn't infuse that with any depth. I typed in a comment elsewhere that this character reminds me of a soap opera villain. I expect more from TREK.
Max Shenk
2025-01-06 13:49:49 +0000 UTCWhile Picard has a more “pro-life”approach to this situation and many others …. It definitely doesn’t extend to humans in these types of situations… in fact I think his approach is more Vulcan …. Cold calculated logic. Try that analogy on a Klingon or Romulan to ease their pain and see what happens lol. I’m more sympathetic to Riker and obviously more so the doctor because she lost a son .. I mean you could insert any family member and it would sorta be the same … but someone’s child hits differently. But like what Star Trek does frequently, (in the past anyway lol) it gives two perspectives to a situation .. In this case I think it added a third. Picards all life is precious and diplomatic approach A mothers revenge And finally Data telling the doctor that her son would not have approved of her actions… Yeah he sorta reprimanded her .. her look of “ oh God what have I done” . All this back and forth makes the audience feel all different ways in one moment .
giuseppe scigliano
2025-01-06 13:39:36 +0000 UTCIt’s usually an 8 day shoot .. but if you include writing , scene development AND new sets then yes it’s a bit longer…. By a week or two lol
giuseppe scigliano
2025-01-06 13:08:56 +0000 UTCThey didn't make an episode in two weeks, it took way longer than that. Two weeks would be literally impossible, tv works fast but not that fast.
Phillip Grischa
2025-01-06 07:55:01 +0000 UTCI posted this somewhere else. The timeline, It all makes sense if you picture it in a flashback episode... Lore and the colonists are at odds so while the colonists are at Soong's house, telling him to disassemble Lore, Lore discovers the Cristaline Entity with his own equipment, communicates with it, telling it to come to his planet to get rid of the colonists. Soong is persuaded to disassemble Lore, but also decides to create Data. Data is in some early stage of programming, along with uploads of colonist logs, when Lore shows up at Soong"s house. If I were writing this, Lore was there because he felt bad that Soong would also die, was going to warn Soong, but seeing Data, an argument begins where Soong shuts off Lore before Lore can warn him about the imminent attack. Lore is quickly disassembled and stored in the molds used to create Data. Then... the ground shakes... Soong sees the Entity and the devastation. He has no time to do anything except escape. Leaving the planet, the dying colonists, a disassembled Lore, and an unfinished Data.
THE Fans
2025-01-06 05:14:27 +0000 UTChttps://youtu.be/9uUH6o-jdog?si=rJXyc8mxI8jrCM5U
Josh (Target Audience)
2025-01-06 04:53:20 +0000 UTCThe answer to every, why did they do this in this episode question is.... because they had TWO WEEKS to make every episode, and did that 26 times! God dayum anyone have any idea how impressive that is.. Especially compared to today's tripe.
TwoWeeksGuy
2025-01-06 04:53:00 +0000 UTCIf your not a parent,you can't know the doctors pain
william reffner
2025-01-06 04:33:44 +0000 UTCNot just cows and pigs, how do plants feel about us eating them? How do minerals feel about us using them to make computers? This thing isn't even organic, it's silicone-based and of a cosmic size. Truly alien to us. It just drifts in the emptiness and feeds
misqellaneous
2025-01-06 02:28:11 +0000 UTCOh yeah this episode.
Dylan Bottom
2025-01-06 02:26:50 +0000 UTCI think Picard's point was that the Sperm Whale isn't going out of its way to be evil, it just needs to eat. Which is the same for us, after all. If cows and pigs suddenly learned to fight back, we probably wouldn't consider their righteous cause and would simply find a way to slaughter them faster.
Dan J Reid
2025-01-06 01:54:45 +0000 UTC“Silicon Avatar” 🥱
Ron Hubbard Jr
2025-01-06 01:42:10 +0000 UTCIt all makes sense if you picture it in a flashback episode... Lore and the colonists are at odds so while the colonists are at Soong's house, telling him to disassemble Lore, Lore discovers the Cristaline Entity with his own equipment, communicates with it, telling it to come to his planet to get rid of the colonists. Soong is persuaded to disassemble Lore, but also decides to create Data. Data is in some early stage of programming, along with uploads of colonist logs, when Lore shows up at Soong"s house. If I were writing this, Lore was there because he felt bad that Soong would also die, was going to warn Soong, but seeing Data, an argument begins where Soong shuts off Lore before Lore can warn him about the imminent attack. Lore is quickly disassembled and stored in the molds used to create Data. Then... the ground shakes... Soong sees the Entity and the devastation. He has no time to do anything except escape. Leaving the planet, the dying colonists, a disassembled Lore, and an unfinished Data.
THE Fans
2025-01-06 00:27:58 +0000 UTC“Picard is too virtuous to be vengeful.” Stick a pin in that one.
Kurt Linke
2025-01-05 22:54:58 +0000 UTCseems like a very lore thing to do, haha
Gabbyb133
2025-01-05 22:54:07 +0000 UTCLore’s deactivation had nothing to do with the CE. He was deactivated because the colonists were afraid of him. I imagine knowing what was coming Lore unknowingly called the CE as a last second “fuck you” to the colonists before he was deactivated and disassembled.
Column Meanie
2025-01-05 22:44:15 +0000 UTCPicard's cuttlefish analogy doesn't work for me because if cuttlefish had the means to fight back and kill the sperm whale would we blame them? To me Picard felt oddly dismissive of all the people who were killed and the CE doesn't just kill a few, it destroys planetary eco systems in their entirety, it probably wiped out entire civilizations.
Phillip Grischa
2025-01-05 22:11:49 +0000 UTCLore was discovered to have lured the entity to the planet, was disassembled, meantime Data was constructed, Soong got outta there before it arrived and killed the people left behind.
Paul Rymer
2025-01-05 22:04:34 +0000 UTCThank you, I’m aware
Josh (Target Audience)
2025-01-05 21:28:33 +0000 UTC15:30 and 15:54 there’s an editing error with the clip of you speaking repeating.
EnigmaticPenguin
2025-01-05 21:15:14 +0000 UTCim confused on the timeline... so lore was made first, he lured the entity to the planet, it killed everyone there. dr soong disassembled lore and then... built data and left the planet all before the entity showed up??
Gabbyb133
2025-01-05 21:07:01 +0000 UTCI've always thought the doctor should have been two characters in this one. Everybody would be wary of the super aggro one and in the end the sweet, motherly one would have pulled the trigger. It would have felt more natural than one character doing a 180 mid episode.
Tiggy Tigali
2025-01-05 20:55:02 +0000 UTCDamn Alex take it easy 😅
The_Truth
2025-01-05 20:33:32 +0000 UTC
