PATREON EXCLUSIVE - Extended Discussion on Character Deaths
Added 2024-09-15 02:54:43 +0000 UTCComments
Wasted potential is a great way to put it. The nice thing is there are 3 more series in the Berman era of Star Trek that explore really similar themes from a character development standpoint. Of course there are more tragic stories too but some of what Alex and Josh are wishing could have happened with her is addressed in later seasons and the other series. That’s what’s great and TA, all of us that seen it all know how much they will love upcoming story and character arcs.
marty63026
2024-09-24 20:16:07 +0000 UTCI love this little thread. My people within my people. 😂 Alicia deserved a few more episodes. K’ehleyr too. They didn’t need to take over their respective shows. But at least get a little more meat on the bone.
Shanelle
2024-09-17 08:08:55 +0000 UTCI have to agree that the wasted potential here is what makes her death so tragic. K'Ehleyr was a great character being portrayed by a fantastic actor and she had a lot of ties to one of the show's main characters. That's what makes her death so poignant. Part of me likens her death to the cancellation of "Firefly" after one season. Hear me out on this. It's the wasted potential here that makes "Firefly" so memorable. The show had some great moments, but it really shouldn't be on anyone's top 10 sci-fi series of all time lists. But it consistently is. Great characters, great actors perfectly cast, some really good stories, but not quite as much as you would have thought. But the potential? Through the roof. Now, with K'Ehleyr, the story beats were there all the way through. No mid or meh moments with her. We can see how great she could have been as a regular recurring character. That's why her loss hurts so much and why after only two episodes she remains one of the best guest characters on any Star Trek series EVER.
Paul O'Neal
2024-09-17 04:54:10 +0000 UTCAgreed 100%. After those couple of episodes I thought she was a FAR better match for Clark than Lana ever was and shipped that hard. Naturally they had to kill her off. Damn you Smallville!!!
Paul O'Neal
2024-09-17 04:46:22 +0000 UTCI suppose Dorf is politically incorrect in the modern era.
Tom Occhipinti
2024-09-16 20:06:40 +0000 UTCAll I could think of when they mentioned Dorf. Hilarious to think of a little Alexander, Klingon version of Dorf lmao
Clyde Frog
2024-09-16 15:07:15 +0000 UTCDamn!. I was willing to bet money that you knew that......Of course, I am older than dirt, so I always assume everyone else is.
Mark Wood
2024-09-15 21:37:30 +0000 UTCI think my anger at her death partly comes from a "wasted potential" feeling, cause they could have done so much more with her. Like when it doesn't work out with someone you have been on a few dates with but really liked. Sometimes, those situations can bum you out more than an actual relationship falling apart.
THE LORE!!!
2024-09-15 18:20:22 +0000 UTCNo we are not
Josh (Target Audience)
2024-09-15 16:49:12 +0000 UTCSame situation... A fan-favorite-female guest has great chemistry with a main character... "Let's kill her!!!" Look up scenes on YouTube of Alicia and Clark. If you aren't into Smallville, you will be.
THE Fans
2024-09-15 16:00:43 +0000 UTCYou called Alexander "Dorf." Are you familiar with Tim Conway's character "Dorf"? YouTube it, if you want. (Completely unrelated to Star Trek, if you're not familiar with Conway.)
Tom Occhipinti
2024-09-15 15:23:05 +0000 UTCShe is a great character no doubt about it and my favorite one too but her dying made this episode great!
Josef Nitervol
2024-09-15 15:11:19 +0000 UTCNah guys we get it. You liked that character a lot. I recall you wanted her to be made a regular.
Lt Dan I scream
2024-09-15 13:33:47 +0000 UTCWhy, Smallville, why??
Shanelle
2024-09-15 13:17:11 +0000 UTCWhen they killed off Sharon on Major Crimes I gave up on the show. Totally unnecessary.
Michael Metrick
2024-09-15 13:06:53 +0000 UTCI've seen this in a few other series, also. It's as if the writers all say "We need someone to die. Who do the fans love most? Oh, that's a good choice." RIP Alicia Baker.
THE Fans
2024-09-15 12:29:16 +0000 UTCIn an effort to avoid spoilage, I purposely neglected to mention Alexander.
Darin Wagner
2024-09-15 12:01:15 +0000 UTCThis was an era of television where the "death card" was seldom played and when it was it was event tv. Post 2000, the tv landscape has changed with showrunners not afraid to use this storytelling device more frequently.........
William McRae
2024-09-15 08:29:29 +0000 UTCI don't know if it was intended, but every time he said Dorf I could not help but think of Tim Conway's character Dorf on Golf.
Tye W
2024-09-15 03:53:40 +0000 UTC1:25 Unfortunately, everyone mourning the same for anyone who perishes is not a good idea. It is all humanity would ever do, and they would never ever amount to anything.
Jovet
2024-09-15 03:51:28 +0000 UTCLOL 🙂
Jovet
2024-09-15 03:50:08 +0000 UTCAnd what about Dorf, Darin? What about Dorf?
Timothy Nikiforovs
2024-09-15 03:48:40 +0000 UTCKehlar, Duras and K'mpec all die in a single episode! But hey, we were introduced to the Vor'cha Attack Cruiser and Gowron... so I'd say it's an even trade.
Darin Wagner
2024-09-15 03:34:51 +0000 UTC
