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YOUTUBE - The Best of Both Worlds Part 2 (TNG S4E1) | Star Trek Journey 182

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0:00 Intro

3:52 Reaction

21:50 Discussion

42:38 Rewriter's Room

54:39 Patron Takes

1:04:29 Warp Speed, Engage!

YOUTUBE - The Best of Both Worlds Part 2 (TNG S4E1) | Star Trek Journey 182

Comments

Way to turn an opportunity to get the episode to YouTube early into a negative

marty63026

The uncut reaction was put out already.

Brian Moore

What until the next episode it's called family but without spoilers it deals more with the aftermath I consider it a part 3 to it

Brian Clark

I took the the picard scean of him remembering all the bad things he did as a borg.

Brian Clark

I'm waiting for there rection to family with the next episode

Brian Clark

🤣

Michael Metrick

I believe the 40 ships lost was the Local Sector fleet, plus any ships they could gather in a short period of time... such as the Excelsior-class Melbourne which was allegedly being retired in favor of the Nebuia-class Melbourne. By no means is that all of Starfleet.

SetsunaYuki

You unfortunately did not get it straight

Josh (Target Audience)

I hope that Alex realizes he is in the bottom 4-5% of all Star Trek viewers here on Patreon and in the entire known galaxy (all four quadrants), thinking that BOBW Part 2 is anything less than A-S tier, which is close to split down the middle. I know that wrestlers go from baby face to heel on a whim for engagement, but this is far more real than fake soap opera acting and dancing around a ring pretending to do anything athletic (see what I did there?). *** I was a huge wrestling fan as a kid in the 80s, with all the great legends of wrestling, and I became a big fan again in the late 90s early 00s with that whole golden age of WCW vs WWE. I do think that wrestling is as demanding and crazy as any athletic event or competition in the world, and I truly admire it. I just like to rile people up for engagement. :) But honestly, I was not a big fan of the immediate tier ranking after the episode at all. I think episodes need rewatches, friend discussions (like you guys did together after the initial ranking), plus time and perspective to see and hear things we missed in the episode that could really affect how we grade it. I get the concept but at least for now, I didn’t like how it came off. I will also give it time and perspective (to be fair). Certain changes you guys have made along the way I initially disliked but later on came to really love, so who knows.

Bagofsoup

I do think the ending can be taken various ways, and several other YouTubers have come to various conclusions, like: is Picard still influenced by the Borg? I always took it as, he was trying to look good in front of everyone else, but still had a lot of physical and more important, emotional trauma to be healed from what he just went through. Based on the next episode that you guys have already seen, I believe that would be the right take, although the other several options would be good guesses as well.

Bagofsoup

This is the first time TNG has used the big deflector dish as a weapon. Usually, it's just there to push debris out of the way of the ship as it flies through space. The one time before this that you saw the dish shoot a visible beam was in TOS Season 3 "The Paradise Syndrome" when Spock was trying to deflect the big asteroid from the planet with the Native American tribe on it (and Kirk had amnesia).

tyranusfan

Guys remember the Roswell and Velcro comment!!!

Hunter

Yes Starfleet knew about the Borg. Remember when Q forced the Enterprise to meet them? I am sure Picard gave Starfleet a full report about it.

Hunter

You guys have the Tech Manual, it's time to get started! LOL

tyranusfan

The Borg were always an evolving idea. Originally they were supposed to be a race of insects, until budgetary limitations scuttled that idea. Then we got the Borg babies, and "they aren't interested in your life form, they're interested in your ship." Then they wanted Picard to speak for them.

Charlie's Illiteracy

The Borg destroyed nearly the entire fleet, not just the ships shown on screen. Starfleet had 40 ships at Wolf 359 to fight the Borg, and the Borg destroyed 39 of them. That has to be 10,000 people dead.

Charlie's Illiteracy

re: Is It The Same Cube From Q Who? Data says it has precisely the same dimensions to enforce the idea it's the same ship. But if you think about it, that doesn't mean anything. The Enterprise has precisely the same dimensions as the Yamato, they're both galaxy class. Because a cube is a geometric shape maybe we're less inclined to think of it as 'designed'. Is the cube a specific size with internal structure full of specific things - like any other ship? Or is it a fractal with a distributed design that can be scaled up or down to make a cube of any size? They say it has distributed power systems and there's lots of identical corridors, but there's also a "nursery" as you call it and some place with a table for upgrading drones. Are these specific places with purpose or are they general purpose areas being used for the task at hand? The jury is out.

Leyton Jay

So let me get this straight, you want to hold a video hostage, in order for people to leave likes before they've even seen the video? Come on, you're better than this. If you want to leave the video until the 2nd then do that, but don't farm likes with scummy tactics like this. Honestly makes me reevaluate even supporting you at all.

LudicDave

re: Borg Reproduction From this point forward it is assumed the Borg repopulate by assimilation and any children or babies you see have also been assimilated. It's believed that the Borg do not reproduce in the traditional sense.

Leyton Jay

If you ever wondered why all the television shows of the time had similar opening intros and end credits? The credits at the beginning and end of an episode are actually subject to SAG and actor’s individual contracts.

Kurt Linke

https://i.imgur.com/XvKWWcS.png example for Rikers name-card

Benjamin Eide

Omg I laughed so hard at the walking into the chair

Steephill

You guys mentioned that it would be cool to have the credits for Picard/Locutus. Funnily enough the named credits are actually physical pieces of paper, not graphics, and they had to be chemically composited onto the intro film reel. Very expensive process, each name is its own printer paper sized piece.

Benjamin Eide

Thanks guys for continuing this journey. Looking forward to this season. Some bangers coming and I can't wait to see you guys pop. Lol

Dru Blood

Funny image from this episode: https://external-preview.redd.it/2PFqEmtUeKOu27gALOseHcRjC-2iTNGO3M58p_RU8F0.jpg?auto=webp&s=f91e978e08cb1b2b7903cc77f4b67cb7113a7794

Chtphr Rrr

Who had the more impactful arrival; Locutus to TNG or Lucas to TA’s Patreon? 😳 I gotta go with Lucas personally! Welcome 🖖🏻

Josh (Target Audience)

So. You finally got me to become a patreon. Never did that for anyone, but I just had to see your reaction to S4E01. Also loved your reaction to family.

Lucas Kane

When Best of Both Worlds was being made , Patrick Stewart’s contract was being renegotiated. It was unclear if they would be able to come to an agreement on his new contract, so the episode was written in such a way that they could write him out if they wanted to and move Riker into the captain’s chair. There was a very real possibility that this would have been the last episode for Patrick Stewart.

ChemicalCrash

So close and yet so dim we can’t see it with the naked eye!

Column Meanie

Love the new title of “Rewriter’s Room” vs. “Gripes and Groans”! It fits a lot better with what you discuss in that segment

The Game Show Reviewer

FURTHER NERD ALERT! The saucer section is actually the vast bulk of the ship. Probably over 80% of the ships usable volume is in the saucer section. The engineering section, or Star drive section, is best thought of as the bowels of the ship... The warp reactor, matter and antimatter storage, a lot of the various machinery of the ship, the two engine nacelles, which are best thought of as propellers, in nautical terms. People think of those two nacelles as the engines, but the engine is actually the warp core. The nacelles interact with space by warping it, sort of like propellers on a ship interact with the water by creating thrust... But the engine itself is internal. It's what actually generates all that power. * Whoops! I missed that earlier post.

Aaron Wells

I’ll need to study harder. I have all the specs and diagrams at home!

Josh (Target Audience)

"Little disc"? That thing is huge, it IS the bulk of the ship's volume! (My geekout for the day)

J Potter

Yeah I got tripped up on the idea that the few people fighting are taking the bulk of the ship and everyone else has to fit in the little disc 😆

Josh (Target Audience)

Will be rotating through the TARGET DEMOGRAPHIC Annual patrons with these thank you throughout the season! Glad you saw yours!

Josh (Target Audience)

Hey! Thanks, guys! I didn't know you'd be doing that thank-you in the middle.

Collin Freeman

So say we all.

Collin Freeman

NERD ALERT! The saucer is the part that has the bridge we see in every episode. The star-drive section is the part that looks like a goose, which also has the battle bridge (this is where Riker was). The idea was that when Enterprise goes into battle, they put all the civilians on the saucer and send them away while the star drive section does all the fighting. However the writers scrapped this when they realized separating the saucer every time the Enterprise was in danger slowed down the story.

Column Meanie

True! I didn’t even consider that

Josh (Target Audience)

Oh wow that’s awesome!

Josh (Target Audience)

Always have to keep your eyes peeled for our videos 👀

Josh (Target Audience)

I took Picard at the window him questioning himself “Boldly Going” in the first place. Like what other horrifying things are out there.

Terminaldogma01

Wolf 359 is actually a real place in space. It's one of earth's closest stars. Further than Alpha Century but still pretty close relatively speaking. It is a red dwarf star. Regarding the saucer section... The main bridge is on the top of the saucer section. Riker managed the return of Picard from the battle bridge that is in the star drive section, in the secondary hull. Recall Encounter at Farpoint when Picard sent the saucer section to Farpoint, while the star drive section attempted to evade Q.

Lou Trek

Love the to-do list

Kosh Naranek

Rest in Peace, Rich

Terminaldogma01


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