UNCUT REACTION - Star Trek TNG S3E18 - Allegiance
Added 2024-06-23 15:20:32 +0000 UTCHad trouble with our earbuds so we had to use the TV audio. In trying to adjust for this, i messed up our mic recording (oops) so the audio is from our camera mic. Apologies for the substandard audio quality.
Comments
Probably went towards danger to test how blindly the crew would follow
William Roberts
2024-06-28 13:16:05 +0000 UTC"I was wondering why I was sitting in this chair in your basement." Ngl that got me lmao
Wyeth Dion
2024-06-27 21:55:16 +0000 UTCI’ll bet that nobody on Mizeria 3 Even noticed that Mr. Thall was even missing. Probably the most dramatic thing that his doppelgänger did was tip 4% instead of his usual three at a restaurant.
Rich Cirivilleri
2024-06-27 12:27:29 +0000 UTCNot too much to say on this one beyond what's already been said. The aliens motivations are pretty well spelled out in the exposition at the end. They're all identical and telepathic, so hierarchies aren't a thing to them. I think more than anything the duplicate Picard's actions were driven by curiosity. The very nature of how Picard(a commanding figure) interacts with his crew is so alien to them that both exerting authority and being defied by subordinates are probably almost intoxicating experiences to them. The makeup in this episode was definitely pretty impressive. I just wish they'd made Esoqq's teeth more believable. As is those fangs look like they'd be more of an impediment to eating than anything, and them seeming to move with the lips just isn't convincing IMO. Still, pretty fun cast of characters in that cell. Tholl was so annoying but pretty entertaining. This is a really good episode for showing how tightly knit the crew has become. The crew shows trust in Picard despite a bit of strange behavior, and even when it's clear something is very wrong, they act in a restrained manner until he actually threatens the ship. But really it's that ending scene where the crew catches on to and silently executed Picard's wish to trap the aliens without a word being said that shows how well they work together. Pretty strong showing for Picard this episode flipping the script on his captors. I don't think this is as good as the last 3, but it's still a solid episode with some unique concepts to it's credit.
Timothy Nikiforovs
2024-06-25 23:08:50 +0000 UTCI just have to pause my show or their broadcast for a split second a few times to get things lined up. A bit annoying but nothing major.
wildhunt1973
2024-06-25 01:04:50 +0000 UTCI agree with liking the volume level, but it seemed off by a second or two, or is that just me?
startrekiborg
2024-06-25 01:03:09 +0000 UTCDon't love but there are elements I do really like in the Empath. Being part of season 3 also helped as the bar had dropped dramatically. Just as for myself I really latch on to even episodes that I just like in seasons 1 and 2 to help me get through the episodes I really, really dislike. And as a theatre person I do appreciate (at times) productions leaning into a more theatrical style. I could appreciate aspects of Spectre of the Gun for just that.
Mark Wood
2024-06-24 20:26:11 +0000 UTCI don't know Andor so far at least (story hasn't ended, so finale judgment still awaits) to me is the least safe production Star Wars has made, and I find it the richest material Wars has delivered since Empire. And safe is in many producers eyes relying on the material that worked well in the past to fuel the stories of today. That often means the very thing I believe you are disliking about Disney Star Wars.
Mark Wood
2024-06-24 20:21:10 +0000 UTCIf it's got a WGA credit it's by the definition not fan fiction. Period. You might not like it (and absolutely nothing wrong with that, there are people who hate what I love, like what I dislike, ect, ect). But fan fiction it isn't. You get a paycheck you're officially a professional. I personally think Trek is all the richer when it takes risk, even when it utterly fails in its attempt.
Mark Wood
2024-06-24 20:17:47 +0000 UTCYour correct its a soft e I use a hard e in its pronunciation. I just remembered that I always pronounce it wrong.
Mark Wood
2024-06-24 20:03:54 +0000 UTCSometimes ...feels like a podcast.
Joe Pail
2024-06-24 18:58:11 +0000 UTCumm so you just watch them and listened to the show audio only ?
Derek Orr
2024-06-24 18:57:14 +0000 UTCI think why the fake Picard sent the ship to the pulsar, was to see how far he can push it. The aliens said they had no concept of authority or something along those lines, so maybe they wanted to see how far a trusted captain can push his authority before the crew pushes back.
JHVJ
2024-06-24 18:12:14 +0000 UTCThe idea of going to the pulsar was to put the ship in danger to see how the crew would react, and whether or not Riker would challenge Picard's authority to command the ship.
That one green Bolian
2024-06-24 17:18:31 +0000 UTCFinally my username makes sense!
That one green Bolian
2024-06-24 16:26:04 +0000 UTCThey say 17 in Evolution, we don’t know when his birthday is
tyranusfan
2024-06-24 12:21:04 +0000 UTChe's 18 in S3. Born 2348
Timothy Nikiforovs
2024-06-24 08:50:51 +0000 UTCI've always kinda wondered if the "ales" were supposed to be real alcohol.
Jovet
2024-06-24 07:03:35 +0000 UTCLet's dip a red-hot wire into some of their blood.
Jovet
2024-06-24 07:02:41 +0000 UTC, your lips are
Jovet
2024-06-24 07:00:56 +0000 UTC(licks) "POISONNN!!!!"
Timothy Nikiforovs
2024-06-24 06:48:41 +0000 UTCWell, perhaps, but let's sum a couple of those up to Picard's intrusive thoughts more than anything he's seriously curious about. Especially the pulsar.
Timothy Nikiforovs
2024-06-24 06:24:39 +0000 UTCThat one was actually restrained. I didn't have to clear my afternoon to read it🤣
Timothy Nikiforovs
2024-06-24 06:21:04 +0000 UTCSomething they don't mention, but I wonder if it was meant to be implied. Picard visited the violent Chalnoth 12 years earlier, commanding the Stargazer. Wesley's father died under Picard's command when Wes was 5. He's 17 in season 3. Maybe...?
tyranusfan
2024-06-24 03:55:52 +0000 UTCGreat reaction as usual! Patrick Stewart was great and I loved the aliens. Some of the camera work reminded me of Hitchcock.
T’Pynyn of Vulcan
2024-06-24 03:13:47 +0000 UTCthe reason fake Picard took them to the star was that like the experiment on the captives, picards presence was to study command, including how far he could push the loyalty of his crew. I dont think he would have actually killed them but wanted to see how far they would follow the commander. Picard on the enterprise was also part of the experiment about authority and command
paultardspambot .
2024-06-24 00:59:35 +0000 UTCThanks. I appreciate it. :-)
Anthony Bernacchi
2024-06-24 00:23:48 +0000 UTCThis is a very consistent run of episodes with one that will have you questioning why Stewarts Acting wasn't recognized with awards
Scarpad’s Domain
2024-06-24 00:12:10 +0000 UTCI do love how it seemed to be only the older crew who actually knew the song. Everyone else seemed to be faking it.
wildhunt1973
2024-06-23 23:52:06 +0000 UTCDude, so loved that part. And Alex and Josh looked curious/confused as to what they were doing. I love it love it love it! Then, after they saw what was going on they got it. Its amazing if you haven’t seen some of these episodes in quite a while, how actually good they are. One that you gave a grade of a C for example, becomes a B, and is better than we remember it.
Chris S.
2024-06-23 23:47:54 +0000 UTC*Glaring at you, Disney Star Wars.**
wildhunt1973
2024-06-23 23:47:43 +0000 UTCExactly. That was the point that many have missed. How far does that trust go, which is actually a line of dialogue. And, it was a test more so for the crew, testing their responses.
Chris S.
2024-06-23 23:43:22 +0000 UTCGreat reaction as always, I think this one is underrated inasmuch as I don't see it talked about very much, but I think it's really well-done. I enjoy the mystery, Patrick Stewart's performance as a slightly askew Picard, and Kolbe's blocking and camera choices. I also want to say, regarding your impression of Marina Sirtis directing: I know you guys can't really watch actor interviews right now because you have to avoid spoilers, but if you could watch interviews with her, you'd know that she actually has the most caustic, give-no-fucks attitude of the entire cast! Like, she is 100% the TNG actor it would be the most fun to have a bottle of whiskey with, hands-down.
Kirkinson
2024-06-23 23:39:40 +0000 UTCActually do not mind the mic audio, but if the tv was a bit louder, I could turn down my audio on my video and not hear a slight echo. LOL. But good reaction either way. This was an episode that could have gone either way with you guys, and it would have pretty much determined in my mind where the rest of the series went. Now, I have no clue at all what you're going to think episode to episode. And I like that.
wildhunt1973
2024-06-23 23:15:58 +0000 UTCGlad you guys liked this one... I remember watching these episodes during their first run, living on this TNG "high" every week. But I would bet, on third or fourth watch of this episode, you would think it's a 3/5, while the ones surrounding it are 5/5 or 4/5 ranking. This one just doesn't hold up on multiple viewings in the same as the surrounding episodes. The good news is, this was the last questionable episode, of whether you guys would like it, this season. One of my favorite episodes in all TNG is coming soon. Oh, also, for a long time I thought the "Vians", the aliens from THE EMPATH, were the same as these aliens.... they aren't, but they should have been. They sure look similar, act similar.
THE Fans
2024-06-23 23:15:15 +0000 UTCWhoever "corrected" your pronunciation of Kolbe was also incorrect. I'm willing to bet they mis-heard a particular video from a convention where a future Star Trek actor who had a relationship with Kolbe demonstrates the correct pronunciation, since that video is the top result on YouTube if you search for his name. The actor in said video does actually pronounce the name correctly ("KOL-beh," with a short "e" sound) but she swallows the second syllable a little bit and the mic doesn't pick it up very well, so it sort of just sounds like breath escaping, especially to an American ear that isn't primed to listen for German pronunciation. But it is definitely two syllables! That being said, almost every other Star Trek actor who has ever talked about him affectionately calls him "Rick" and pronounces his last name "Kolby" just like you do, so it seems like he was used to letting English speakers take the easy route most of the time.
Kirkinson
2024-06-23 23:13:56 +0000 UTCOr, maybe, people like different episodes to you, Alan...? That is allowed. :)
Andy Frankham-Allen
2024-06-23 23:09:32 +0000 UTCOooh, ok. My bad. Cheers :)
FPG
2024-06-23 23:00:15 +0000 UTCDon't know if you've ever watched Smallville, but they did this a lot and I was frustrated by those episodes because it was always a set-back for Clark's progress. (A way to give viewers what they wanted without affecting the story arc) How will this affect Picard and crew? Yet to see.
Stevtrek
2024-06-23 22:32:13 +0000 UTCI’m confused is his name spelled incorrectly? lol
Josh (Target Audience)
2024-06-23 22:30:27 +0000 UTCRead the post
Josh (Target Audience)
2024-06-23 22:29:04 +0000 UTCThe true crap is in future seasons.
Jovet
2024-06-23 22:12:43 +0000 UTCCamp level: 11
Jovet
2024-06-23 22:11:51 +0000 UTCPicard bought everyone drinks in a bar that doesn’t charge anyone in a society that has no money
Turtleboy
2024-06-23 22:09:19 +0000 UTC@Menty I believe it's a bit more complex than that. The alien stated their transporters can replicate living matter (WELL DUH, any transporter SHOULD be able to do that), so fake-Picard was both a copy of himself *and* a façade of one of aliens at the same time. Since the aliens were telepathic, and one of them was basically inside fake-Picard, it should have known that their most-recent mission was considered secret, but apparently, this did not get telepathically communicated to the fake-Cadet.
Jovet
2024-06-23 22:08:30 +0000 UTCThis one doesn't get talked about a lot. It feels like a lost TOS script that got adapted for TNG.
EnigmaticPenguin
2024-06-23 22:06:26 +0000 UTCLOL! Well, that is what it looks like, but that's not what its texture is. Though, what they were supposed to do for water or where they were supposed to go to the bathroom is still an exercise for the viewer. 🤷
Jovet
2024-06-23 22:04:13 +0000 UTCSafe is definitely better. It isn't that big of a leap from "safe, sensible scripts" to "inglorious fan-service fan fiction."
Jovet
2024-06-23 22:03:05 +0000 UTCJust FYI fake picard was a test of authority ;)
Evan Guthrie
2024-06-23 21:58:26 +0000 UTCNice stuff, but did you do something different with the audio this time around? It seemed I could hear the episode audio in your reaction throughout, where normally we don't?
FPG
2024-06-23 21:51:03 +0000 UTCThe Picard replacement was conducting its own experiment to study how the crew react to an authority figure that is acting irrationally. At least that is how I interpret his actions.
Sherpa Jones
2024-06-23 21:22:34 +0000 UTCFake picard was trying to steer the ship into the pulsar to see how the crew would react to his authority in that situation
Evan Guthrie
2024-06-23 20:47:53 +0000 UTCFor me this is not the most outstanding episode plot-wise, but it is still engaging and highly watchable, mostly thanks to Patrick Stewart's performance. We get a glimpse into what a more uninhibited Picard would be like, and we get to see the real Picard take some strangers and turn them into a small crew that can put aside their differences and work together. The episode also has a touch of sadness when you realize that one of the main reasons the crew knew something was wrong with Picard was because he was being so friendly and personable. Ouch.
Ryan Caulfield
2024-06-23 20:37:55 +0000 UTCThis is one of the more memorable episodes for me but doesn’t get a lot of love from fandom. Reminds me of the “Cube” sci-fi film series, but less violent. First appearance of the Starfleet Academy cadet uniforms as well.
Matt Everkoul
2024-06-23 20:33:54 +0000 UTCWait, how do we know they're the REAL Josh and Alex?
Screaming Frog
2024-06-23 20:20:19 +0000 UTCI wouldn't call this crap, just ephemeral nothing, like having potato chips as a meal. It's of no real quality but isn't offensively unwatchable. Unfortunately that's the majority of TNG so far; a time killer.
Ken R
2024-06-23 20:14:08 +0000 UTCCaptain. Jean-Luc Picard. of the USS. Enterprise. (IYKYK)
Ee'char
2024-06-23 20:13:39 +0000 UTCIt's late season 3, so clearly it's Stockholm Syndrome. Poor bastards
JGoss
2024-06-23 20:01:07 +0000 UTCI’m not sure if you’re talking to us or the comments, but we obviously have no problem calling TNG episodes bad. Loved this one though.
Josh (Target Audience)
2024-06-23 19:25:19 +0000 UTCOur entire comment section on the Empath reaction video apparently
Josh (Target Audience)
2024-06-23 19:22:20 +0000 UTCI swear if Miri was a TNG episode some of you would find a way to justify it. Its ok to say that TNG made crap sometimes, and this is one of them.
Alan Thompson
2024-06-23 19:16:17 +0000 UTCI think you've got a point about it not being explained why he was pushing so hard to do something that would destroy the ship (was he going to come clean at the very last second if they hadn't mutinied?) As for the erratic behaviour like signing and seducing Beverley that wasn't part of the test. That was because the imposter scanned Picard's brain and those things were things he had thought about but would never do. The alien didn't have a way of knowing what thoughts the real Picard would act on though and is why he warns Riker that he "might not be himself" at the start of the episode.
Menty
2024-06-23 19:14:29 +0000 UTC48:18 Fake Picard was keeping the entire crew off balance and testing to see how far they would be willing to trust him.
Steven Johnson
2024-06-23 19:03:02 +0000 UTCI don't love it, but I like it.
KatWithAttitude
2024-06-23 18:59:35 +0000 UTC"It reminds me of the Empath" - Josh, 2024.
Steven Johnson
2024-06-23 18:57:31 +0000 UTCEveryone has this take like they know what they're talking about lol. When was any of this mentioned in the episode!? They never explained the specific reason they wanted to jeopardize their lives and the crews by flying into that pulsar. Why did fake Picard try so hard to stop them if it was only curiosity as they claimed? Why would they go from singing silly songs to killing people? For that matter what did singing songs have to do with authority? Or seducing Beverley? And what did fake Picard intend to do had real Picard not discovered their experiment so fast? Was he going to just sit in the brig for a week? I believe the writers simply came up with the idea of the mutiny scene 1st then reverse engineered a story to make it happen without thinking about the plot holes. Too many peeps speculating like they wrote the episode themselves lol.
Trouty McTroutTrout
2024-06-23 18:53:49 +0000 UTCBy no means a classic. Nevertheless this is fun with some good moments. Feels like they’re really allowing Patrick Stewart have fun and tackle a range of stuff this season.
Darren Seal
2024-06-23 18:52:27 +0000 UTCWho the hell loves The Empath?
JGoss
2024-06-23 18:46:54 +0000 UTCwhats wrong with most in 10 Forward I would have been singing along with Picard "Come Cheer Up My Lads!" indeed
Narnman
2024-06-23 18:46:39 +0000 UTCEven the guy on the ship that was a doppelgänger of Picard was not just random. The two aliens at the end specifically mentioned that they were trying to understand the concept of authority since they don’t have that and are all identical and telepathically linked. The fake Picard kept pushing the crew with his authority to see how far he could take it, even forcing them into a dangerous and life threatening situation with the pulsar.
Jack Fletcher
2024-06-23 18:27:56 +0000 UTCThe e is not "silent". Winrich and Kolbe are both german names. But we know Americans never bother to spell foreign names correctly. If we Not-Americans would do the same to english names we would be corrected constantly.
Sam Langanke
2024-06-23 18:22:37 +0000 UTCOh, we knew what was on his mind all evening! 😈
Jovet
2024-06-23 18:18:16 +0000 UTC@Greg Quinn I agree. Fake-Picard just went ahead and did many of the things that real Picard wants to do but doesn't let himself do.
Jovet
2024-06-23 18:16:26 +0000 UTCToo bad
Jovet
2024-06-23 18:14:09 +0000 UTCWell said
Chris S.
2024-06-23 18:11:59 +0000 UTCThis isn't a classic, but I have always thought this was a really good episode, and this was a fun rewatch with you guys. Any time they let Stewart ham it up, it is always a treat as well. I also think the underlying mystery, while nothing incredible, is well executed. Another fun thing to consider is that the race is telepathic, and so when creating the imposters, they have scanned their brains, so Picard's erratic behaviour is things that he has thought about (singing in Ten Forward, asking Beverly out) but doesn't do because he obviously has self-control, but the alien had no way to differentiate what was in his mind and what his actual actions would be. This is clearly a limitation they understand and is why the imposter warned Riker he "might not be himself" Also, the last bit of trivia. When Picard realises it is unlikely that the cadet would know about Mintaka III. That is the planet from Who Watches the Watchers. Nice bit of continuity.
Menty
2024-06-23 18:11:34 +0000 UTCUrinal cake.,. LMFAO!
Chris S.
2024-06-23 18:10:55 +0000 UTCThe biggest tragedy of the episode is the urinal cake they served the captives. No thanks! I don’t care if it is strawberry scented… 😆
Connor Fallon
2024-06-23 18:10:12 +0000 UTCAllegiance is a great example of how a what would have been a rather weak season 1 or 2 episode is now a descent *though not remarkable) episode of TNG. With the writers and actors now having better grip on characters (especially as the mantra is now each episode issn't about the aliens of the week, but about one of our characters), the improvement in production values, this episode far more successful then if they would have done it in season 1 or 2. Now TNG will absolutely produce some crap, that doesn't change. But a lot of material that previously would (all my opinion of course) be below average, is now fair or good. And thats primarily down to better focus on characters, better production values (and this includes direction), and the actors being far more versed in their own characters. And with Picard we get to see how he handles a puzzle, but with the fake Picard we see some things about him that he has done or would like to do, but his stoic behavior and position are now things he wouldn't. Singing at the academy as a cadet, check. Would Adult Captain Picard do it, nope. He's a lot more reserved than when younger. How about feelings for Crusher, absolutely all there. But will he in his position ever act on them? And yes fans of that coupling both loved and hated that tease. As the show runners absolutely will not allow the cast to have a relationship that isn't one and done. The writing staff absolutely wanted to go there. One of the disadvantages of being part of Star Trek for the people who make it, was that unlike the first show, which just scraped by until it died. Trek was now a billion dollar property. It was one of the biggest IP's for Paramount (and only growing). So the studio was absolutely worried about rocking the boat. So there are absolutely aspect of the shows in these years that are designed to play it safe. It was a very difficult tight rope for the writers in trying to tell stories, that meet the requirements of the studio of being safe, but also trying to write material that is true to character and trying to match the best material being produced at this time.
Mark Wood
2024-06-23 18:06:20 +0000 UTCI understand why I didn't like it as a teenager. No action. And I understand why I like it now. Great acting.
Sam Langanke
2024-06-23 18:05:09 +0000 UTCYes...but...I also feel like since the Picard replica had Picard's brain essentially replicated all the things came from Picard. Picard does want to seduce Beverly, he does wonder how loyal the crew is (when asking Troi) he does want to go and sing drinking songs with the crew, he does want to see if the crew would let themselves get destroyed by a Pulsar. Lol...well at least that's my head cannon. I'm commenting before I watch the reaction though. Terrible...
Greg Quinn
2024-06-23 18:03:53 +0000 UTCOh nice, it's like the old days when I could listen to just the reaction without the separate episode. Mess up more often, please :D
JGoss
2024-06-23 18:02:56 +0000 UTCMichael Westmore is a very, very talented prosthetic makeup designer. Is always nice to see his department get to not only do serious work. But also get to design new material. As Trek's ratings have yet to really grow much (they stabilized this season and show very minor growth, by the beginning of next season (literally episode one) we see a significant uptick in ratings. With that you will see the various departments having a little more leeway for special episodes. Winrich Kolbe (and yes I also pronounce the e when I know its silent, I do it to this day....) is one of the better TNG directors. I place him David Carson, Frakes, Les Landau and Rob Bowman has consistently some of TNG's better directors (to this date). So it's always nice to see their names in the credits. With the addition of several solid new directors I still miss Rob Bowman. Thank God for the X-Files....
Mark Wood
2024-06-23 17:59:55 +0000 UTC50:30 We told you! It gets GOOD! LOL!
Jovet
2024-06-23 17:57:41 +0000 UTC48:20 He was setting up a danger to the ship to induce the crew to resist and mutiny against him. A test of command allegiance.
Jovet
2024-06-23 17:56:11 +0000 UTCI actually have watched the uncut "Yesterday's Enterprise" and "The Offspring" on their own after watching them a couple times with my copy. I could still tell exactly what was going on by your reactions.
KatWithAttitude
2024-06-23 17:55:59 +0000 UTCAnd here I stopped watching it after Season 2 because for me it was getting a bit...tiresome. I will be watching it with TA when the time comes since I recently invested in the sets for DS9 and Voyager.
KatWithAttitude
2024-06-23 17:53:00 +0000 UTCThe Aliens had two tests that we see. The first is the rats in a maze test in the cell. Seeing how different minds work or don't work together. The 2nd test is seeing how far you can push before the characters take actions against Picard. The choice of the Pulsar was to put the ship in mortal jeopardy to test that. While all the other small characteristics that Picard wouldn't do are smaller versions of that same test. Having a race that is fully linked means that they don't understand these sorts of things. About how what pushes an individual who isn't telepathic and thus fully aware of ever thought of the others to make their choices. For the ship, is what behavior is enough to make people change their minds on Picard. The Pulsar was absolutely not random, they were looking for a nearby test that could put the ship in serious danger. But its not something directly tied to their species or anything.
Mark Wood
2024-06-23 17:51:36 +0000 UTC"Out with it, Jean-Luc" indeed :-)
Glenner7
2024-06-23 17:49:16 +0000 UTCWell if someone is very narcissistic could say the first thing to throw off anyone "blaming" them then say the second thing. 🤷♂️
Greg Quinn
2024-06-23 17:48:44 +0000 UTCRewatching this episode hits different now with all the "impostor among us" talk. My favorite scene is Riker, Data, and Worf all looking at each other knowing exactly what to do.
Doug
2024-06-23 17:48:44 +0000 UTCOh no not again
JD Nevesytrof
2024-06-23 17:39:28 +0000 UTCYeah but it also doesn't get good until season 3 haha
Brendon Waldron
2024-06-23 17:39:01 +0000 UTC28:40 Nice catch, gentlemen. 😀
Jovet
2024-06-23 17:36:15 +0000 UTCAnd we turned out to be a liiiiiiittle bit right already....
JD Nevesytrof
2024-06-23 17:34:55 +0000 UTCDS9 already has more hype than TNG season 3 💀
Josh (Target Audience)
2024-06-23 17:32:18 +0000 UTCThe uncut reactions aren’t meant to watch on their own, but if you do it that way more power to you.
Josh (Target Audience)
2024-06-23 17:31:54 +0000 UTCI prefer the TV-audio, it's easier to watch your uncut reaction without having to put the DVD into my player.
Joe Pail
2024-06-23 17:29:07 +0000 UTCYou're already committed, enjoy the ride ;)
JD Nevesytrof
2024-06-23 17:28:49 +0000 UTCI think they are from the same planet as The Miz
Josh (Target Audience)
2024-06-23 17:27:48 +0000 UTCDAMMIT JD!
Josh (Target Audience)
2024-06-23 17:27:23 +0000 UTC17:40 It annoys me he earlier says he's not special or radical enough to kidnap, and here he says he's pretty smart for his race.
Jovet
2024-06-23 17:25:15 +0000 UTCI feel like for real, after hearing your thoughts on this episode...you really might just love Deep Space 9
JD Nevesytrof
2024-06-23 17:24:01 +0000 UTCMizar is the double star in the handle of the Big Dipper. It's actually a bunch of stars, multiple systems. It looks amazing through a pretty basic telescope. So the Mizarian is supposedly from there, I guess. ?
Angelaina Marie
2024-06-23 17:23:20 +0000 UTCWhat the heck is the Phantom Zone for
JD Nevesytrof
2024-06-23 17:14:11 +0000 UTCI’ve always liked this one, and Beverly and Faux Picard’s “date” really hits the mark. I mean, I’ve been on a date like that before..it’s going great, I’m having fun and, oh wait you’ve got to get up early tomorrow for that thing you’re just now mentioning, but you’ll definitely call..ok. 😬
Glenn Johnson Barnes
2024-06-23 17:13:02 +0000 UTCCan’t put a god in prison
Josh (Target Audience)
2024-06-23 17:09:54 +0000 UTC#lockherup
JD Nevesytrof
2024-06-23 16:53:02 +0000 UTCWe know fake Picard was a test of authority, we talk about it in the discussion. Let’s not turn this into a YouTube comment copypasta
Josh (Target Audience)
2024-06-23 16:51:02 +0000 UTCLooking forward to it!
Steven Linden
2024-06-23 16:50:11 +0000 UTCI read all of Anthony’s comments, they are very informative and he does a great job not including any spoilers 😮💨
Josh (Target Audience)
2024-06-23 16:49:09 +0000 UTCHere’s to the finest crew in Starfleet!
Data's Small Talk
2024-06-23 16:48:59 +0000 UTCWonder Woman did it
Josh (Target Audience)
2024-06-23 16:47:45 +0000 UTCWe talk about this in the discussion
Josh (Target Audience)
2024-06-23 16:47:18 +0000 UTCI mean, it's super common in reacter comment threads to just cut and paste everything from imdb trivia and Memory Alpha but really they could just include a link instead and save time ;)
JD Nevesytrof
2024-06-23 16:37:15 +0000 UTCRemember this was a test of authority, so they were seeing if the enterprise crew was going to let themselves die because the captain commanded it
Gregory Mark Coburn
2024-06-23 16:36:04 +0000 UTCThis one has a very TOS funny ending feeling, even down to the music cue, doesn't it? Not that there's anything wrong with that.
KatWithAttitude
2024-06-23 16:35:46 +0000 UTCI think the fake Picard was also part of the experiment - he was testing their command hierarchy by seeing how far he could push them, how far they would remain loyal to him in spite of his strange orders.
Steven Linden
2024-06-23 16:33:54 +0000 UTCAnthony, You do seem to have a LOT of information to "copy and paste" in the comments section... MUST you steal everything that anyone else wants to say?
Ee'char
2024-06-23 16:30:43 +0000 UTC👍
Just another Red Shirt
2024-06-23 16:29:28 +0000 UTCThe lighting in that last scene with the aliens in the force field. The pink hues with a low camera angle was dope af. Kind of cool to see what a mutiny of Captain Picard might look like too.
Trouty McTroutTrout
2024-06-23 16:29:20 +0000 UTCYou READ all that?
JD Nevesytrof
2024-06-23 16:28:28 +0000 UTCI think the alien (fake Picard) was also conducting an experiment on the crew to test their trust in the capt. He was pushing the limits to see when they'll break.
D Jammers
2024-06-23 16:28:25 +0000 UTCNope, a watch party with you guys did nothing to improve my opinion of this bottle episode.
Ee'char
2024-06-23 16:23:11 +0000 UTCFive Characters in Search of an Exit is an S tier Twilight Zone episode
Josh (Target Audience)
2024-06-23 16:15:56 +0000 UTC"I'm glad Beverly and fake Picard didn't sleep together, that would have been a bit much." Yes in fact that would have been a very bad crime
JD Nevesytrof
2024-06-23 16:15:25 +0000 UTCThe fake Picard was testing the crew as much as they were testing Picard while they had him detained
Manny Fleurmond
2024-06-23 16:09:22 +0000 UTCPity poor “Allegiance,” the most egregious example in the history of television science fiction of an episode poorly served by its placement in the season. To think we thought “The Dauphin” had it bad in Season 2! “Allegiance” reminds me of the man Keegan-Michael Key played in a "Key & Peele" sketch who had to give the speech after Martin Luther King Jr. at the March on Washington. As with “The Offspring,” one reason for making “Allegiance” was to save money after the expensive production of “Yesterday’s Enterprise.” This was director Winrich Kolbe’s favorite of his own TNG episodes, partly because of the simplicity and ease of filming in the cell set. Kolbe ran over schedule in the first two days of shooting, making Paramount executives nervous, but once he began working in the cell set the production zipped along. However, the main reason the episode was Kolbe’s favorite was how much he loved working with Patrick Stewart. He compared the skill Stewart showed in his dual role in this episode to the artistry of Itzhak Perlman playing a Stradivarius; Kolbe could ask Stewart for a little less or more in a particular scene, and Stewart would respond perfectly. TNG’s producers rejected the cue Ron Jones had composed for the dinner scene with Dr. Crusher and the fake Picard, leaving the scene unscored. Ironically, the same thing had happened in Jones’ first TNG episode, “The Naked Now,” with the cue he composed for Dr. Crusher’s attempted seduction of Picard. However, the jazz piece to which Picard and Crusher dance after dinner is an original composition by Jones, not an existing piece of music. Unfortunately, this is the last Ron Jones score we will hear for three weeks because Jones was on a trip out of the country; see my comment on S3E20 a week from today for more information. Note how Geordi sings a nonsense syllable rather than the word “slaves” in “Heart of Oak.” LeVar Burton had, of course, starred in "Roots" as the enslaved African Kunta Kinte. The Picard storyline in this episode bears a resemblance to the original "Twilight Zone" episode “Five Characters in Search of an Exit,” which guest-starred William Windom, Commodore Matt Decker from “The Doomsday Machine.” Mitena Haro, the “Starfleet cadet” who is the ringer in the group of captives, is the second Bolian character to “appear” on TNG; the first was Captain Rixx in “Conspiracy,” and the species is named after Cliff Bole, who directed that episode. The TV Tropes website points out that the Bolian facial ridge makes Haro appear to have “two faces,” a subtle hint that she is the mole. Actors Jerry and Jeff Rector (the aliens) are identical twins; Jeff Rector would later play Donald Trump in "Bad President," a 2020 fantasy comedy featuring Stormy Daniels as herself!
Anthony Bernacchi
2024-06-23 16:08:41 +0000 UTCThey should have pulled the mask off, a la Scooby-Doo
Eric Singer
2024-06-23 16:00:36 +0000 UTCalso: "Come cheer up my lads, 'tis to glory we steer"
Ee'char
2024-06-23 15:38:47 +0000 UTCngl, a LOT of people thought Allegiance would break your streak
JD Nevesytrof
2024-06-23 15:38:28 +0000 UTCDidn't get on with this one at first, although at the time, I was still finding my Trekkie feet. Even seeing it again on rerun, I wasn't sold. Maybe a collective viewing will change my mind?
Ee'char
2024-06-23 15:34:25 +0000 UTCMe: I'm not like other trekkies. It doesn't consume my life or anything Also me: yeah I guess I'll pause tmp for the ta drop
llama
2024-06-23 15:23:08 +0000 UTCAles for everyone!
SinocTheHodgeheg
2024-06-23 15:21:15 +0000 UTC
