This will also be posted to YouTube, but haven't decided when. Here is the link if you would like to watch it there (with ads) - https://youtu.be/ls_X5TH5zgQ
Comments
You were arguing about something happening in the holodeck, staying in the holodeck… when it really should have been mopped up so nobody slips in it.
Scott Robert Edington
2024-05-25 07:30:22 +0000 UTC
They are fighting because Josh walked in on Alex with his Beverly body pillow
Who Cares reallly
2024-05-23 20:22:52 +0000 UTC
Canon is a nice idea but has no meaning. There’s plenty of “canon” in Star Trek and Star Wars and all sorts of universes that keep getting expanded by whatever corporation controls them. What do I care about their worst choices? Fictional universes—just like reality—are what YOU make of them :) So make them the best version for you 🤷🏼♂️
Benjamin Azure
2024-05-23 18:46:50 +0000 UTC
There is no way two guys who look like great value Sami Zayn and Kevin Owens would ever fight.
Chris Stewart
2024-05-23 14:20:45 +0000 UTC
Nice to see the school and the teacher, but completely unnecessary to the story. It was nice to hear Troi talking about her father's death, but I feel like the "The last thing we did before she died was argue" bit is kind of done a lot in TV and movies. Maybe a little overdone. He doesn't need an extra reason to be upset that his mother died.
Joe Concepts
2024-05-23 14:07:05 +0000 UTC
I think the problem with that is that it could be they cut the scene out because they didn’t want it to be canon.
Joe Concepts
2024-05-23 13:26:23 +0000 UTC
Seasons 4-7 Blu-rays included high quality film scans of deleted scenes. I edited several into extended episodes, adding foley effects, ship hum, fixing the framing and color timing. Some episodes really pop with the added scenes.
JGoss
2024-05-23 05:36:37 +0000 UTC
Wtf???? Gross bathroom humour🙄🤦♂️
Derek Orr
2024-05-23 04:55:26 +0000 UTC
Lol oh boy…star trek fans pretty much invented canon …many take it very very seriously:)
Derek Orr
2024-05-23 04:53:57 +0000 UTC
I will never be able to view this the same way things have changed my understanding of this episode.
Jason Mitchell
2024-05-23 02:30:04 +0000 UTC
I don’t consider anything not officially part of the released episode as canon, but I find “is it canon” debates pretty pointless because it’s all fake, so if someone wants to say it’s canon to them then sure
Josh (Target Audience)
2024-05-23 02:05:51 +0000 UTC
@Justin Craig
I think it does.
Jovet
2024-05-23 01:58:13 +0000 UTC
We are aware the old grainy footage is what’s cut lol, we were discussing if there was any scene of them at all in the episode, which there wasn’t.
Josh (Target Audience)
2024-05-23 01:56:07 +0000 UTC
That's rough. Like Data said, "This is just a thing, and things can be replaced. Lives cannot." May not keep you from feeling overwhelmed, but you're not alone, either. Where abouts? Iowa? Wisconsin? Elsewhere?
Jovet
2024-05-23 01:26:02 +0000 UTC
It's not headcanon if it was filmed. Just because it was cut for time doesn't make it any less canon now.
Justin Craig
2024-05-23 01:21:54 +0000 UTC
And it no longer tickles?? 😏
Jovet
2024-05-23 01:19:28 +0000 UTC
What about whose smells better? (To the noses of women?)
Jovet
2024-05-23 01:18:27 +0000 UTC
6:22 Correct. All of that was cut from the final episode. You can get used to spotting what was cut because it's grainy and old, versus the cleaned-up DVD footage that they've used for bookending.
Jovet
2024-05-23 01:14:17 +0000 UTC
2:08 Now you've heard that actual sounds of the doors opening and closing.
(The random guy is the teacher)
Jovet
2024-05-23 01:09:27 +0000 UTC
You're fighting about who gets to wear the T-shirt that you posted the photo of yourselves about first.
Jovet
2024-05-23 01:07:47 +0000 UTC
I find it fascinating that there is so much extra material, given how tight Ronald D Moore's scripts get later on in the franchise. Maybe he was too green to understand how it would play out on set vs how he thought It would on the page. It's also so crazy how early on he got the characters and immediately knew how to effectively use them. Shame about the Troi scene and the part about the terminal being fixed lines, they really would have added something (not that it necessarily needs it, it's a great episode).
THE LORE!!!
2024-05-23 00:08:41 +0000 UTC
The argument- did one of you finally confess their undying love for the other?
Regan
2024-05-22 21:57:44 +0000 UTC
Wow, had no idea this existed. Thanks for sharing!
Kyle Stewart
2024-05-22 21:39:11 +0000 UTC
Interesting technique from Troi, no adults say 'mom' in Star Trek, only children. Adults say 'mother'. She said 'mom' him to him.
Leyton Jay
2024-05-22 21:38:27 +0000 UTC
Oh, Jason, so sorry for you. Peace to you.
Collin Freeman
2024-05-22 21:25:53 +0000 UTC
I really think you guys would enjoy the reading rainbow episode on youtube, going behind the seasons of filming season 1.
Andrea R
2024-05-22 21:16:29 +0000 UTC
These days, a lot of series can get away with running a minute or two long, but boy, they really needed to cut it down for the network. It's a shame, because I think the series doesn't do enough to show Counselor Troi actually doing her job, and.. I regret that scene wasn't in there. The show-runners just defaulted a little too often to "need to cut out some scenes from an episode? Let's get rid of some Troi stuff." Even though the scenes that were included were a little more "important" to the episode itself, keeping the cut scene here would have been better for the Troi character in the long run.
Ian Westcott
2024-05-22 20:39:57 +0000 UTC
Thank u all.
Jason Mitchell
2024-05-22 20:27:33 +0000 UTC
Jesus! Sorry to hear that, but I'm glad you and your family are safe.
Will insurance cover the house at least?
Timothy Nikiforovs
2024-05-22 20:26:11 +0000 UTC
Wow that's horrible. Everyone safe is the positive to focus on.
Trouty McTroutTrout
2024-05-22 20:22:07 +0000 UTC
Terribly sorry to hear that.
Josh (Target Audience)
2024-05-22 20:05:48 +0000 UTC
Last night I lost my house to a tornado everyone was safe except my cats. But least I have my life.
Jason Mitchell
2024-05-22 19:52:41 +0000 UTC
To have included the kid and Troi would have meant cutting back on Worf I guess, or the non-essential Riker/Data stuff.. It was possible since Worf was a side thing and you could have told this story w/o the bonding thing, but it would have been a choice requiring even more material with the kid. Or, they just needed fewer commercials.
Ken R
2024-05-22 19:24:33 +0000 UTC
I love the worldbuilding around Troi's Betazoid powers. How other people react to her, that she acknowledges when she uses it. The backstory on her Father's death was a great detail.
Chris
2024-05-22 19:13:47 +0000 UTC
You didn't actually fight, you're sitting on the same couch, split the image and reversed your positions. you're actually just sitting next to eachother like normal.
Andreas Schmitt
2024-05-22 17:34:20 +0000 UTC
Always appreciate your thoughts and analysis. As for what you were arguing about, I think l it was about what you should be arguing about for this bit. 😏
ChemicalCrash
2024-05-22 17:29:46 +0000 UTC
Maybe one of you is having 2nd thoughts. Upon further contemplation, one of you actually likes The Hunt for Red October after all.
David Brown
2024-05-22 17:29:05 +0000 UTC
Alex, love the shirt!
JD Nevesytrof
2024-05-22 17:08:02 +0000 UTC
At least we can store it in our headcanon
Josh (Target Audience)
2024-05-22 16:00:10 +0000 UTC
I've never seen this before. It's so nice to have new character scenes after all these years. Many thanks to Josh and Alex for making this fun as usual. Also, thanks to the patron who dug this up. 😃 🖖
T’Pynyn of Vulcan
2024-05-22 15:33:49 +0000 UTC
I think that might be the best “counseling” I’ve ever seen Troi do—a great blend of using psychology and her empathic abilities. I’m sure she was annoyed that scene got cut.
Benjamin Azure
2024-05-22 15:13:01 +0000 UTC
Whether or not Riker would drink Fireball.
Timothy Nikiforovs
2024-05-22 15:09:27 +0000 UTC
You guys "argued" because Alex chopped the beard down lol
Justin Craig
2024-05-22 14:33:44 +0000 UTC
Never saw these deleted scenes before - you actually saw them 1st and I got to react to YOU for a change! It's like an Alex and Josh parallel universe episode.
Trouty McTroutTrout
2024-05-22 14:09:01 +0000 UTC
Pineapple on pizza?
Kurt Linke
2024-05-22 14:06:37 +0000 UTC
The argument is as follows : Josh supported Jake the Snake and Alex was on Macho Man's side
Narnman
2024-05-22 13:54:16 +0000 UTC
“The image of Crusher is very distracting!!” - YouTube comments probably
Josh (Target Audience)
2024-05-22 13:46:29 +0000 UTC
You're obviously fighting over the new background, I vote for a shot of Crusher's office with her sitting at her desk watching you watch an episode.
Phillip Grischa
2024-05-22 13:42:20 +0000 UTC
I've heard some people say, in their household you never go to bed angry. That way, if an emergency happens during the night, emotions aren't clouding your judgement, or worse, anger isn't the last way you feel about someone. The fact that it happens to Jeremy makes it SO much worse for him.
Evan Guthrie
2024-05-22 13:33:19 +0000 UTC
I think you both are arguing about who has the best pooping technique.
fatproduce
2024-05-22 13:33:15 +0000 UTC
I was today years old when I found out about this.