NEW Star Trek TOS Fans Watch Star Trek V: The Final Frontier for the First Time
Added 2024-04-05 10:37:57 +0000 UTCFRIDAY'S YOUTUBE VIDEO - Reaction to Star Trek V: The Final Frontier
Here is the YouTube link for those who would like to watch it there. The video will be set as a premiere around 10am eastern on Friday, and won't be available until it premieres Friday night - https://youtu.be/J7jfoYTfbj8
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Now that you've seen ST5 you should probably be made aware of this classic internet meme created from Shatner talking during interviews for ST5: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HU2ftCitvyQ
Mr Moxie
2024-04-07 23:32:06 +0000 UTCThat's about an hour longer than they spent on Patron Takes for S2E22 😀
Jovet
2024-04-06 20:10:17 +0000 UTCFun fact: Star Trek V was the very first piece of Trek I ever watched when I was 6 or 7 years old - and I absolutely loved it! I can see the issues with it these days, but personally I still think it is made out to be way worse than it actually is. After watching TOS about ten years ago for the first time, I felt even more validated in that view. Star Trek V really feels like one of the more goofy TOS episodes that doesn't try take itself too seriously. And there's nothing wrong with that, though I am still happy that it was followed by Star Trek VI - which I won't say anything about until you guys have watched it.
Romano Mlinarević
2024-04-06 18:49:12 +0000 UTCI haven't watched this edit yet, but I probably will eventually. I just finished finally watching the uncut reaction and I now have a headache. The movie seemed to take forever when I watched it on my own for the first time last month and it still did with the reaction. If I were to give it one of the same ratings I've been giving the TNG episodes I would have to say it's on the low end of "Time Filler With Good Moments". On the other hand, my new external Blu-ray drive worked perfectly with the laptop, so there's that.
KatWithAttitude
2024-04-06 05:41:09 +0000 UTC1.21 Klingowatts!! Fun fact: Christopher Lloyd is the first actor to have TWO time machines stolen from him.
Juan Tutrífor
2024-04-06 04:32:28 +0000 UTCYeah. Anyone that professes that belief is just a limp wanna-be rebel, or an attention whore, or troll just trying to get a rise out of people.
Jovet
2024-04-06 03:20:23 +0000 UTCNot sure what this means. Are they all trolling?
Josh (Target Audience)
2024-04-06 02:37:24 +0000 UTC26:40 Nobody believes the world is flat.
Jovet
2024-04-05 23:47:55 +0000 UTCDid they sample James Brown to make the cat lady noises?
Lee Trayler
2024-04-05 23:26:41 +0000 UTCRandom fact (which may have been covered in the uncut version, but just in case) - the admiral who gives Kirk the mission close to the beginning is Harve Bennett!
Brian Dunleavy
2024-04-05 22:51:33 +0000 UTCIt's Kruge. C'mon Juan, put some respect on his name 😉
James Bottas
2024-04-05 20:18:01 +0000 UTCDare y'all to read the IMDB trivia section for the name of tge McGuffin planet. ;)
Eliza B
2024-04-05 19:59:06 +0000 UTCJiminy frikken crickets! Scotty hitting his head... It's so... GRR-MARTIN! HE LOOKED UP! He looked up at the path ahead! Watch! grr!
Eliza B
2024-04-05 19:29:03 +0000 UTCI think (and the movie doesn't clarify this) that Sulu, Chekov, Uhuru, etc. are in fact healed of their past pain and so cooperate with Sybok. It's not brain-washing, just sincere gratitude and belief in Sybok's quest that the crew feel. Obviously the movie sidesteps any consequences for this and is only concerned with adding extra problems that prevent Kirk from regaining control of his ship, while forcing him to make the emergency transmission that the rogue Klingon crew intercept.
Numinous2019
2024-04-05 17:53:17 +0000 UTCI've always understood their introduciton with the Voyager series probe to being a cheeky reference to them killing V'GER to try to make them seem tough. But yeah, it does fall flat dramatically.
EnigmaticPenguin
2024-04-05 17:49:01 +0000 UTCOh, now i'm very excited.
Steven Johnson
2024-04-05 17:35:34 +0000 UTCNo, what you mean to say is *deep breath* "Koooorrrrr...! Military governor of the KLINGON EMPIRE."
Steven Johnson
2024-04-05 17:34:42 +0000 UTCWell, and not to spoil anything for future movies, but there IS a future movie where half the goddamn motivations and story were deleted from the movie, and... Hey, if you read the novel, and the pre-release comics, and the script, suddenly it doesn't seem like a bunch of nonsense! ... No! The movie doesn't get credit for something that it didn't tell me...! The reason I say it seems like its fake, is... The crew was brainwashed, right? They're all back to normal at the end like absolutely nothing happened. Shatner originally wanted the entire crew to betray him. Kirk was supposed to basically stand alone... But Kelley and Nimoy told him no. It wouldn't make sense for them to betray him after everything they went through in the previous movies. Spock especially. ... So the only thing it *can* be is a form of brain washing... But the movie also makes it seem like its not brain washing, that he's actually in some way HEALING them of their pain... So what the fuck, man, I don't know. I've seen the movie dozens of times since the 90s and I still don't know.
Steven Johnson
2024-04-05 17:32:47 +0000 UTCAn hour?! You spoil us, m'lord!!
StonyD
2024-04-05 17:07:55 +0000 UTC“Someone is going to name drop some novels, or something. I don’t care” is extremely based Yeah, his powers being real is definitely how I took it. I didn’t really have an issue with it, but I never considered they weren’t real.
Josh (Target Audience)
2024-04-05 17:05:01 +0000 UTCI’ll be crying while editing it tonight since we spent an hour responding to Patron Takes
Josh (Target Audience)
2024-04-05 17:01:39 +0000 UTCI think we need to rewatch that episode solely because we now know it’s John Calicos
Josh (Target Audience)
2024-04-05 16:59:56 +0000 UTCNo place for John Colicos in 'Errand of Mercy'?
Numinous2019
2024-04-05 16:48:51 +0000 UTCI love all the original crew movies (hell, I even love TMP) and of course I recognise the technical shortcomings of this movie, but have to say, this and the Undiscovered Country are the ones I rewatch the most. (TMP is beautiful but glacial, II, III and IV each feel like parts of a larger story) V and VI are self contained, and while VI is unequivocally a better movie (maybe even the best TOS movie in my opinion) V is just raw goofy fun!
Chris Christison
2024-04-05 16:48:30 +0000 UTC1. Christopher Lloyd 2. Worf 3. [Redacted] 4. [Redacted] 5. [Redacted] 6. K'Ehleyer 7. [You get where this is going] .... 26. The captain who got blowed up by V'Ger .... 37. The Klingon captain/Motley Crue megafan from Star Trek 5
Juan Tutrífor
2024-04-05 16:03:39 +0000 UTCThere are some good moments. That stuntman performing a record breaking controlled fall (ruined by the insert of Shatner in a wobbly process shot). Sybok's wordless discouragement when Kirk reaches for a phaser in the shuttle & Kirk's "Okay. We'll play it your way." (nice insight into both characters).....but the film feels patched together and it suffers even more in comparison to the movies before and after it.
Numinous2019
2024-04-05 15:28:27 +0000 UTCThey were decent but not in it very much. Not as good as Star Trek 3 or TNG, but better than TOS
Josh (Target Audience)
2024-04-05 15:21:54 +0000 UTCI really enjoyed watching your reaction, some of the wonder came back to me. It occured to me that I've had over 30 years to eviscerate this film fair or not. I'm glad you guys gave me some of that perspective. Where did the Klingons in this movie rank for you?
Ty
2024-04-05 15:19:26 +0000 UTCWord. I wait patiently. (cries in corner)
StonyD
2024-04-05 14:15:59 +0000 UTCOne example of how badly plotted this movie is: compare how each villain/threat is introduced: V'Ger destroys Klingons easily; Khan uses the Ceti eels; Kruge kills his own girlfriend; the whale probe shuts down Earth; and ... Klaa blows up an old satellite and says he's bored.
John M.
2024-04-05 13:31:38 +0000 UTCLike with other Audience Cuts there is no unedited discussion for the Patreon since we do them later on separately from the day we watch the movie
Josh (Target Audience)
2024-04-05 12:59:46 +0000 UTCI'm surprised the Discussion video was never released to Patreon at this point. I thought we would have gotten that before the movie hit YouTube. But, I know you two have been busy with TNG as well.
StonyD
2024-04-05 12:54:24 +0000 UTCLOL! Never noticed that. I've always thought, of all of them, him and Nichols were the ones that tolerated him the most. In fact, I saw Shatner bury the hatchet with Koenig on one of Shatner's interview podcast/shows. They talked about it bluntly, with Bill claiming he was unaware of how he was acting and Walter explaining and acknowledging it's been so long it doesn't matter anymore. They both agreed that feelings from both sides were amped up during their prime, but as they've gotten older it's water under the bridge. And I know Bill made amends with Doohan before he passed. It's only Takei's bitterness that holds onto any of that at this age.
StonyD
2024-04-05 12:52:52 +0000 UTCLike I said in the livestream, the movie is rough around the edges. It has good moments, but a lot of the plotting is just terrible. Just... Really bad. Sybok's powers are not clearly explained in the movie, are they a sham? It's not clear. Which is even more peculiar given Shatner said his primary inspiration was the TV televangelist crocks who were peddling faith healing and such. Instead it seems... His powers were real... Ish? Someone is going to name drop some novels, or something. I don't care. The movie doesn't do a good job explaining this aspect, and that's partially because the script is woefully undercooked. Also, I will never not love the fact that Walter Koenig's contempt for William Shatner is on screen. During their briefing at the start of the movie, you can see Kirk walk in front of Chekov, and Chekov just looks at Kirk with this "...Fuck you" look as he passes him.
Steven Johnson
2024-04-05 12:03:08 +0000 UTC'I lost two brothers. But I was lucky... I got one back.' A simple fix to Kirk's line, which always surprises me they never picked up during the scripting. Still, love that you guys loved this film. I think it's great - I return to this more often than most TOS movies. It genuinely feels like a movie length bigger budget TOS episode. Which is exactly as it should be.
Andy Frankham-Allen
2024-04-05 11:31:18 +0000 UTC
