PATREON EXCLUSIVE UNCUT REACTION - 12 Angry Men (1957)
Added 2023-11-05 19:00:48 +0000 UTCVisual sync moments at the start of the movie then 30 minutes and 1 hour in. Also, the return of the timecode! Will it actually work? Nobody knows!!
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Andreas Schmitt
2023-11-08 21:20:51 +0000 UTCI've been born 79 and I've seen them in some places in Europe. But very rare
Andreas Schmitt
2023-11-08 21:14:46 +0000 UTCI'm so glad you guys reacted to this. "12 Angry Men" was always a movie I wanted to watch since it was hyped up so much. I'm glad I finally got an excuse to check it out. I absolutely loved every second of it.
Ca$hWednesday
2023-11-07 05:30:40 +0000 UTCThe first time I saw it was in 10th grade English.
Collin Freeman
2023-11-07 03:21:02 +0000 UTCEh, pausing for a moment here or there fixed it for me. No big deal. The yelling of the characters helped with syncing lol
Andreas Schmitt
2023-11-06 23:38:04 +0000 UTCNever seen it either. Fantastic movie. But yes, young people now have completely wrong ideas about the past. People were people, no matter now, 50 or 5000 years ago
Andreas Schmitt
2023-11-06 23:35:27 +0000 UTCThe cinematography in this movie just blows me away. Absolutely top notch. I never get tired of it. A masterpiece of writing directing photography editing everything. If I may, I’d like to suggest that you put “To Kill a Mockingbird “ on the list. If you loved this film, that one will simply blow you away. Also Alex, another must see is Hitchcock’s”Lifeboat “. A masterpiece in confined single set movie making. Hitchcock love that, and he considered it a personal challenge to film in that way. Another film with just a group of actors on one set with minimal music. Astonishing mean brilliant. Five stars.
Rich Cirivilleri
2023-11-06 22:19:24 +0000 UTCWhat an amazing point you made about cinema going in the 50s. Back then there were so many more movies that were released, and they only stayed in theaters a week or two. Like you say, folks in small towns had one theater and they just went to go see whatever was playing. Science fiction films were usually relegated to the drive-in as most 50s types considered them to be kid stuff and nonsense and a waste of time. It was indeed a different time. Jesus! That’s even before my time, and I’m two days older than dirt.
Rich Cirivilleri
2023-11-06 22:15:14 +0000 UTCCool! One of my favorite films. Certainly one of the best Fonda films. I’ve been meaning to rewatch and now I have an excuse. I just finished Hill House and I was going to fold it out this afternoon with a viewing of the 1963 the Haunting which is another one of my favorite films of all time. But I’m gonna throw 12 angry men on and watch it with you guys. Got to take a pee first. TMI
Rich Cirivilleri
2023-11-06 19:48:31 +0000 UTCSome of the famous actors in the movie: Henry Fonda, Juror 8 -- ranked the 6th-Greatest Male Screen Legends of the Classic Hollywood Era John Fiedler, Juror 2 -- might be the only Star Trek actor. He played Mr. Hengist / Jack the Ripper in TOS episode Wolf in the Fold; however, he might be most famous for voicing the character of Piglet in the Winnie the Pooh cartoons. Ed Begley, Juror 10 -- is the father of Ed Begley Jr. who appeared in Battlestar Galatica Martin Balsam, Juror 1 -- an Academy Award-winning actor who appeared in the 1960 movie Psycho. Jack Klugman, Juror 5 -- was about the only famous actor to me when I first saw the movie as he had starred in the 1970-1975 comedy series The Odd Couple which was shown often in reruns. I think he was the last of the 12 actors to die in 2012. Jack Warden, Juror 7 -- a two-time Academy Award nominee was a famous actor E. G. Marshal, Juror 4 -- a famous actor who seems to be known for playing a lot of politicians and presidents, even in Superman II. Edward Binns, Juror 6 -- was in the 1970 movie Patton.
Chtphr Rrr
2023-11-06 19:04:01 +0000 UTCI watched the original live TV version several years ago. It runs about an hour, so I don't know if Reginald Rose kept developing the script until the film was made, or if he just edited the same script down to an hour. The TV version only resolves around Juror No. 2 not being able to stand alone against the other 11 jurors. He just caves in under the psychological pressure, while Robert Cummings' Juror No. 8 has been able to withstand the same stress to turn around the verdict. There's no final piece of trial testimony undermined. Juror 2 doesn't have the motivation Lee J. Cobb has here.
Numinous2019
2023-11-06 18:49:27 +0000 UTCI used to see those towel devices growing up. I never liked them back then as they never worked correctly, and I was too small and short to use them properly. They would jam up, and I would simply be drying my hands or other people's germs. I think those things mostly disappeared around 1990 when convenience stores with gas stations started to appear along rural highways. Before then when you were on a trip and you had to go the bathroom, you had to ask the gas station attendant for a key to the restroom which was often attached on the outside of the building. I have seen a few of those things in recent years, but I don't remember seeing one recently. Inside the machine there is a towel that like probably half or a quarter as long as a football field. The newer ones seem to work better, but I haven't seem one recently.
Chtphr Rrr
2023-11-06 18:36:43 +0000 UTCThis indeed a classic. I was happy to watch it with you guys. Fun fact, Henry Fonda also starred in the stage version and was largely responsible for bringing it to the big screen. This brings up a point. Fonda’s acting style, so chill. I think you guys might enjoy this double feature. Henry Fonda plays the President in a movie called Fail Safe. We also see a very young Larry Hagman as well. Follow that up with Dr. Strangelove (or How I Learned to Stop Worrying and Love the Bomb), which also has an all-star cast, starring Peter Sellers in three different roles. It was released later the same year, and is a satirical look at the same subject, even though the Studio said it was completely coincidental. Cheers gents!
Mark Shampine
2023-11-06 18:36:36 +0000 UTCThis was a good movie and you can see how the format lends itself to being on the stage, although I think it got its start as some sort of tv drama, then to Broadway, then to film. I didn't vote for it because I see on YT people all react to the same stuff, which i guess is new to you , but there is so much classic material out there going undiscovered.. You guys would have an interest in "Requiem For A Heavyweight" by Rod Serling perhaps.
Ken R
2023-11-06 18:31:04 +0000 UTCIronically given the minimal scoring in this film, the final music cue (from when the jurors begin to file out of the room to the end) is one of my favorite film score cues of all time -- it provides such a powerful emotional catharsis. I was astonished that Alex remembered seeing the kind of paper towel racks that appear in the restroom. I was born in 1979, and I've *never* seen those things except in this film -- I always thought of them as the most prominent reminder that the movie comes from before my time!
Anthony Bernacchi
2023-11-06 16:58:41 +0000 UTCThe 1954 version was once thought to be partially lost, but a complete print was rediscovered in 2003. It's included as a special feature on the Criterion Collection release of the 1957 movie. IIRC, it has a slightly ambiguous ending -- it's not explicit whether Juror #3 changes his vote or not, and therefore whether the trial ends in an acquittal or a hung jury. I've never seen the 1997 version, but I know it features a multiracial cast, including African American actor Mykelti Williamson as Juror #10 (the racist). I also understand that the Russian and Chinese versions both include stupid twists of the kind that Josh was relieved not to find in the original.
Anthony Bernacchi
2023-11-06 16:54:18 +0000 UTCFive of the twelve jurors appeared on "The Twilight Zone": Martin Balsam (Juror #1): "The Sixteen-Millimeter Shrine," "The New Exhibit," "Personal Demons," "Voices in the Earth" John Fiedler (Juror #2): "The Night of the Meek," "Cavender Is Coming" Jack Klugman (Juror #5): "A Passage for Trumpet," "A Game of Pool," "Death Ship," "In Praise of Pip" Edward Binns (Juror #6): "I Shot an Arrow into the Air," "The Long Morrow" Jack Warden (Juror #7): "The Lonely," "The Mighty Casey" Balsam's latter two episodes were on the now largely forgotten 1980s version of the series. Funnily enough, the 1954 TV version (the original "Twelve Angry Men") also featured five actors who went on to appear on "The Twilight Zone": Robert Cummings, Franchot Tone, Paul Hartman, Norman Fell and Lee Philips. Fell's episode was on the '80s version of the series.
Anthony Bernacchi
2023-11-06 16:39:06 +0000 UTCAnd, of course, "Psycho" was controversial enough in black and white -- the shower scene would have been far too intense for 1960 audiences in color. (The blood in the scene was, famously, Hershey's chocolate syrup.)
Anthony Bernacchi
2023-11-06 16:38:25 +0000 UTCOh, d-d-d-dear, dear.
Anthony Bernacchi
2023-11-06 16:33:06 +0000 UTCWatched this originally in college and instantly became a favorite. A second watch is good to see the subtle acting. And the first shot of the jury room is one long shot.
Terminaldogma01
2023-11-06 05:39:47 +0000 UTCI'm always surprised when people say they've never seen this film. It was such a go to in school that I probably sat through it 3 or 4 times between 7th & 12th grade. Such a wonderful master class in tension -- so visceral in some places. And you guys were correct, there are several extended shots throughout. The most famous is probably the continuous shot at the beginning, when they enter the jury room, no cuts until Henry Fonda turns away from the window as he's called to the table.
Avaria
2023-11-06 05:18:52 +0000 UTCGood reaction, guys. I voted for this one, but believe it or not I only first watched this about a month ago. It's one of those movies that I'd heard of, seen meme's of, but never seemed to have any interest in watching it. Good friend of mine strongly suggested it, so I finally caved and watched it with the wife, she had never watched it either. I was pleasantly surprised to how good it was and could not believe I'd never had interest to see it before. Even our 8 year old grandson said he liked it (we have full custody of him and his sister). Carry on, that is all.
Monty Crawford
2023-11-06 03:11:36 +0000 UTCWow that’s really interesting thank you for sharing I never would’ve thought you could wear them to bed! Haha
Josh (Target Audience)
2023-11-06 02:32:32 +0000 UTCJust finished watching. I'm glad you both liked it so much, and that you recognized John Fiedler from Wolf in the Fold. We told you after that episode that he was also the original voice of Piglet in the Winnie the Pooh cartoons. He was also a regular on The Bob Newhart Show back in the 70s. I did have some sync troubles, but that could be because I was using a different disc than you were. I had the Criterion Collection Blu-ray and the time codes kept going way off. We started out pretty evenly but a couple times I ended up close to a minute off. I dealt with it. One that that always makes me laugh when I watch this or the several YT reactions I've seen of it is the line "No one wears eyeglasses to bed." It makes me laugh because I indeed DO wear my eyeglasses to bed and have for close to 20 years. I just got tired of groping for my glasses on the nightstand when I had to get up in the dark and dropping them a couple times. I'm very nearsighted and I've been wearing glasses since I was 8 years old in 1968 when eyeglasses were much heavier and not flexible. Now that I have flexible frames and lightweight lenses it's much easier to leave them on. Just about the only times I take mine off now is in the shower or when I clean them. And I can't wear contacts for a couple of reasons.
KatWithAttitude
2023-11-06 02:28:13 +0000 UTCyeah, no worries tho
James Bottas
2023-11-06 00:29:55 +0000 UTCFrame rates will be the death of me
Josh (Target Audience)
2023-11-06 00:26:38 +0000 UTCThat was good watching with you guys. I didn't vote for it because obviously, as I said on the poll, it's very talky. Not easy to "react" to in terms of a reaction channel. However, since it's just the discussion that goes onto yt (which I don't think I understood was the plan at the time of voting)... 12 Angry Men was a great choice. Powerful movie. You know there's a 1997 version too with a pretty great cast. This was my first thing watching with you guys that just would not stay synced. I was using the Prime Video stream and it would go from perfect sync to way off within like 20 seconds. Made it work though
James Bottas
2023-11-06 00:19:18 +0000 UTCAn amazing film that everyone should watch. Thanks for the opportunity guys! I found the comment about many of us thinking that the 50s were a backwards period being very accurate; while in some ways it really was a period were people had to face prejudice and oppression it is good to remember that in all times there are people of good conscience.
Captain Proton
2023-11-05 23:16:20 +0000 UTCIf you look it up there are several other different versions. I think most of the other English-language versions are stage plays. However, if you want to rewatch it, there is a 1997 TV movie version, perhaps for the 40th anniversary, with Jack Lemmon, George C. Scott, James Gandolfini, and Tony Danza. I would not normally suggest watching this, but it might be interesting to compare them. I don't think they changed anything, but you would think that they must have changed something. This 1997 version was directed by William Friedkin who directed The Exorcist and who passed away this year. There's the 60-minute 1954 version that includes some of the same actors as the 1957 version for Jurors 9 and 11, but I don't if a copy of that one even exists. There's also a Russian version called 12, a Chinese version called 12 Citizens, and two Indian versions called Ek Ruka Hua Faisla and Vaaimai.
Chtphr Rrr
2023-11-05 23:10:34 +0000 UTCI’m glad you guys liked it. Your reaction was fine. Not everything needs big reactions. I hear so many people say that movies this old in B&W with mostly talking are too boring, but as you figured out sometime good writing and acting can be enough for a captivating movie. I hope we do more classic movies in the future.
Jonathan
2023-11-05 22:48:48 +0000 UTCI have seen this film at least 1/2 dozen times and never get tired of it. It rests somewhere in my top 20 films. I first saw it in English class in high school. The performances are stellar. Lee J. Cobb steals the show for me. His scene at the end where he rants and then breaks down still brings tears to my eyes. His character could have been related to my grandfather, sadly. This was Sidney Lumet's first film and he was nominated for best director for it. He did an interview in season 1 or 2 of Inside the Actors Studio in which he spoke about this film at some length. He came from the theater and was very big on the rehearsal process. This film was VERY rehearsed by the actors. The budget was virtually nil. So when a chair was lit, ALL the scenes that took place with the actor in that chair were shot; then, move on to the next set up. His directorial style was therefore very helpful for the actors to know how to act and react whenever shooting out of sequence.
Collin Freeman
2023-11-05 22:44:44 +0000 UTCI’m glad you guys enjoyed it, I’ve been meaning to rewatch it again for a while and it feels just as powerful again this time around
Andrew Duffy
2023-11-05 22:19:15 +0000 UTCI have always heard this was a deep and powerful movie and that I should watch it, I have not seen or own. I have so many classic movies it’s hard to believe I never watched this until now. I didn’t vote for this, though I am glad I did. Jack warden was good, with the simple guy act. Henry Fonda was a credible anchor for all the personalities to revolve around . Martin Balsam Went ton to play Doctor Rudy Wells in the Six Million Dollar Man and The Bionic Woman in the later half of the combined series
Thicketdweller
2023-11-05 21:44:19 +0000 UTCGood call, gotta be lots of Twilight Zone actors in this one.
Joe Concepts
2023-11-05 21:21:54 +0000 UTCIt's Hengist! I recognized the voice!
Captain Proton
2023-11-05 21:11:26 +0000 UTCExcept for the actors, this was inexpensively made. There is a nice old interview with Sidney Lumet on Inside the Actors Studio where he talks about making this film, from its 1st or 2nd season. I highly recommend it.
Collin Freeman
2023-11-05 20:45:41 +0000 UTCFrom the late 30s to the early 60s, the general protocol was that if a film was in black and white it was usually inexpensively made, where color was used for big-ticket films, special effects pictures or epics. Hitchcock used his TV production crew for Psycho to make it on the cheap, but also black and white worked better for noirs or particularly drama-heavy or character-driven stories.
JD Nevesytrof
2023-11-05 19:55:14 +0000 UTCOne of my favorite movies of all time. Great to see it here on your channel!
Blaine Martin
2023-11-05 19:53:50 +0000 UTCThis is like both an immortal movie and a sleeper movie at the same time, it's never mentioned in the same breath as a Citizen Kane or a Gone with the Wind but it should absolutely be considered one of the best Golden Age dramas ever filmed.
JD Nevesytrof
2023-11-05 19:16:56 +0000 UTCI won't be able to watch it until later this afternoon or tonight, but I'm looking forward to it.
KatWithAttitude
2023-11-05 19:05:22 +0000 UTC
