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EARLY ACCESS - Star Trek III: The Search For Spock | NEW Star Trek fans FIRST TIME REACTION

EARLY ACCESS - Star Trek III: The Search For Spock | NEW Star Trek fans FIRST TIME REACTION

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My favorite reaction from you guys so far. Search for Spock is my favorite Trek movie and after all the dissing it gets, I'm glad to see you guys appreciating it as much as you did!

Rocket Robin Hood

I agree. We’re all excited to see them react. But on a first watch, its tough. You gotta watch a few times, let it rest for a few years, then revisit it and get the gist of the film, and you catch things you missed. But we gotta remain tight-lipped about EVERYTHING.

Chris S.

Dude, totally caught that too. “He’s an idiot”. I laughed my ass off! The reactions are almost as good as the movies themselves! 🤣

Chris S.

Im wondering if Carol was in on the protomatter, or did David even keep it from her.

Chris S.

No worries. This film is underrated. Josh, you made some good points about the plot being good, and seeing some new things. I posted elsewhere, but Harve Bennett wanted Nick Meyer to write and direct 3, but he refused, so Harve was in a pickle. So, crazy as this sounds, he wrote it himself, and didn’t know how it was going to go, so, he started with the end “Jim. Your name is Jim”. And wrote it backward from there. Ingenious, and very creative.

Chris S.

Let them watch it when they want to. Give them a chance to miss TOS first. :)

Andreas Schmitt

Just a little clip you guys should check out. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XQL3Cmj2AnI

Dan Krantz

I just watched this again and Alex said something that I missed before and it made me Laugh Out Loud. During the Pon Far Scene Alex said, "So Spock is probably a blank slate, if he doesn't have his memories he's aged so fast he's probably an Idiot." I thought that was a Funny off the cuff comment! 😀🖖

Duane Chancey

I think this is clearly the most underrated of the first 6 or so original cast movies. I even remember, in some ways, liking it better than Wrath of Khan when I saw in the theater, but I also remember being extremely annoyed with the movie also. I didn't want them to waste an entire movie resurrecting Spock. I wanted to see more new real adventures. It's one of the those movie that gives away what is going to happen in the title of the movie; I don't think a movie can be truly great if it tells you exact what is going to happen in the title. It's like when you watch a prequel movie, and you know exactly which characters are not going to die. So I both love/like the movie and am annoyed by it at the same time. I was looking at your old Abe Lincoln episode of Star Trek; I guess Mark Lenard was supposed to come back to play Lincoln too, but he was busy. It only took me about 30 years to figure out that the USS Grissom was named for astronaut Gus Grissom who was killed in Apollo 1. I think Nichelle Nichols almost didn't do the movie as she didn't see the Mr. Adventure scene when she first went through the script. I remember reading the first part of the movie novelization for Star Trek III. I remember that the first few chapters were really interesting as it includes more stuff about the crew mourning the death of Spock and Scotty's nephew. Maybe you can find a copy of it in a used book story or in a library. The Star Trek II-IV really feels like one big movie while the two remaining movies after this make some references to those movies also. I think Dame Judith Anderson who plays T'Lar is the one actor from the movies who was born in the 1800s. I think she was less than 5 feet tall, so I think put her on a throne wearing a high headdress. The idea that Klingons and Romulans share ship technology was based upon them having to reuse Klingon ships for the cheap season three, but it worked out good here.

Chtphr Rrr

I love how much you guys love this movie. It's infectious.

Collin Freeman

This was such a fun reaction to watch. Why? Because I had forgotten just how many things happening in Trek for the first time that future shows and movies also do first happen in this movie. I won’t elaborate so as not to spoil. But seeing this one through your eyes was a pleasure to this old Trekkie.

Jef Etters

The original title for the movie was "Return to Genesis." Less dramatic, but on the other hand it obfuscates mentioning Spock.

Steven Johnson

Kruge is THE definitive klingon as the enemy, to me

James Bottas

In fairness, it's nearly always cited as "the best of the odd Treks."

JM63

This movie is the one most hurt by the "odd ones suck" rule, in that it is very competent, actually expands the world of Starfleet a ton, features an incredible amount of model work and doesn't make the walking back of a death, very much the emotional and thematic crux of the previous installment, too easy. But, at the same time, it's sandwiched between a film that dropped a whole new dynamic into Trek, and is probably the most viseral Trek has been to that point, and another film that is such an emotional release, with such a clear happy ending that it feels lesser in comparison, which is not its fault. It's emotional moments are also not as strongly carried as we've seen they can be. Both the death of David and the destruction of the Enterprise, while having an initial punch, are moved on from fairly quickly in order to keep the plot moving. Kirk's final confrontation with Kruge doesn't feel like a man facing the person who killed his son and led to him blowing up his ship: "I. Have had. Enough of. YOU," always seemed too comedic to me for such a heartless villain. Plus, as much as you guys don't like David, I think we needed to see more of him. He and Kirk NEVER share a scene together in this film. Their relationship is not given room to be fleshed out, and it flattens the impact of his death. That Shatner manages to imbue it with as much feeling as he can is a testiment to him. I almost wish we had a movie squished between TWoK and TSfS, just to feel the absence of Spock more and grow David and Saavik more before their ordeal. But no, this movie is clear from the outset to be about getting Spock back. So much so that within the first half-hour, we know exactly where both parts of Spock are, search over. Josh also says this is the movie that feels the most like an episode of the show, and that can be both a good and a bad thing, depending on how one looks at it. And given all the highs of the films in comparison that can make this one feel lesser. None of these are total deal-breakers though, or make the film "bad." They at most just flatten it, and it's reputation as part of the "odd ones suck" is definitely a hindsight assessment to make things neat, and even then it's only barely qualified to be in that group. A group which, really, in the face of crappy film out there, don't actually "suck" all that much. Moreso that they weren't universally loved and have problems that stood out more compared to the others.

Nolan

Such an underrated Trek film. Lot of fun and excitement in this reaction, guys. Thank you

James Bottas

Haha I thought that at first, but the cat was removed from the room when we started the movie

Josh (Target Audience)

It's that darn cat!

James H

They don’t go into it much but from the one scene I got the impression David used the protomatter secretly without anyone knowing. Which seems difficult to pull off but clearly the movie doesn’t want you to think about it too much so they just move on haha

Josh (Target Audience)

I have never understood why this movie gets the flack that it does. Maybe just because people want to fit it into the "odd number Treks are bad" trope, which is not at all true. I think in terms of character building this one and the next one are excellent. I did feel like some of the storytelling is a little awkward in this one... Where is Carol Marcus and isn't she just as guilty in the protomatter issue? And back in the day we pretty much knew Spock was coming back due to all the publicity and everything, so there were no surprises. I think it actually plays better blind, as you guys watched it.

David Wayne Fox

I mean you guys can't know all the things. If you stop and do research before your reactions, the reactions aren't going to be nearly as entertaining to watch. Whatever your reactions are, they're the genuine article. I'd say the vast majority of people will understand the distinction between character/actor. That being said, that's probably a sensible precaution. By the way, how come you guys didn't get that Spock was radiated in Wrath of Khan? You know he was supposed to be blind right? That's why his voice was all messed up. *Laughs in Balok*

Steven Johnson

It's a meta narrative, Target Audience is a front for a new horror movie. It's a cross between Paranormal Activity and The Shining.

Steven Johnson

I hope people don’t conflate our dislike of David’s character with the actor who unfortunately passed away. We learned that AFTER watching this movie and talk about it in the discussion video, but most people won’t watch that video, so I might say something about it in the pinned comment.

Josh (Target Audience)

Goddamn that reaction to David's stabbing is so brutal. Holy shit. For me that scene always kills me, but I had to laugh watching your eyes light up as the poor bastard gets murdered. Seriously though, one of the most visceral deaths in all of Star Trek. Props to the actor for the YELP as he gets stabbed. Star Trek 3 has always been my personal favorite. I know a lot of people rank it lower than 2 4 and 6, but... There's just something about a group of people who put everything on the line for their friend. It's very inline with how the Trek audience felt about Spock. Back when they were making TWOK, Trek fans got wind of Spock's death (Some people on the production believe Gene Roddenbery leaked it to Trek zines at the time because he was rightfully PISSED.). Fans were making death threats to the production. So bringing him back and having the crew going as far as they did, really it is in line with the level of love that Spock enjoyed among fans.

Steven Johnson

Yes, but I have no idea why. Our camera is on a tripod so my only guess is one of us was nudging it with our foot but I feel like we would’ve noticed doing that so idk.

Josh (Target Audience)

Is the camera wobbling now and then?

Christopher Alvarez

Yes!

Douglas Collier


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