UNCUT REACTION - Star Trek TOS - For the World Is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky S3E8
Added 2023-02-23 22:00:02 +0000 UTCA Bones love story!!!
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TOS Sex Scoreboard They call him the BONER….. I mean Bones Kirk 9 Chekov 3 Spock 2 Bones 2 new +1 Extras: Bones, even dying, shows some pullability. Natera wielding the instrument of obedience sounds fun. It seems the Fraberni women go for the catcher mitt face look, because she was hooked from the minute she saw Bones.
Prof Moff
2024-12-09 19:40:35 +0000 UTCI'm with Alex on this one. It's fine, but it's pretty dry. I really do feel like the Oracle is the weakest part of the episode. The generation ship element is interesting, but having this oracle that's more concerned with ceremony than the fact that the ship is on a collision course with a planet seems like a huge design oversight on the part of the creators. Also given they said at the end it would arrive at their new home in 390 days, I assume their destination WAS that inhabited planet, and they were just on course to hit it as opposed to entering orbit. Given there were already almost 4 billion people living there, it makes you wonder if they'd be welcoming to so many refugees. So I guess McCoy just has a wife out there in the universe now. It's funny how last season started with Spock almost getting married, a few episodes Kirk got married(which at least was resolved and he didn't just leave her behind), and now McCoy. Hell, even Chekov almost got married to a daydream a couple episodes back. I don't mind episodic stories, but I like that Next Gen at least had continuity with the characters. I'm not a fan of big changes like this for the characters just being irrelevant next episode. Anyway if I were to rewrite the episode, I'd probably keep the malfunction, but just have it that the Fabrini slowly lost the knowledge to maintain and control the ship over the centuries, and don't trust these outsiders telling them they need to change course. Just get rid of the oracle altogether.
Timothy Nikiforovs
2024-04-28 08:40:36 +0000 UTCThey were able to beam directly into Natira's and McCoy's room because the communicator channel was open, giving the ship proper coordinates.
MertzRocks
2023-06-21 06:35:59 +0000 UTCEspecially if you could do it in exactly that voice! 😄
Trevacious
2023-03-01 01:10:54 +0000 UTCGood episode. Cinematic camerawork and lighting from new director Tony Leader (who went over schedule by two days and wouldn't be back) and new cinematographer Al Francis (who shot 16 episodes this season.) Excellent (and expensive) sets for Yonada by Matt Jefferies (who also built the big obelisk in the Native American episode, had the Jefferies Tube named after him, designed the Klingon battlecruiser, the original Enterprise and its movie refit, and numerous other things.) I'm enjoying season 3 more than its reputation would merit.
deconstructionist66
2023-02-27 15:43:59 +0000 UTCAnother "meh" episode for me, which is how I feel about most of the season 3 episodes. As has been pointed out in another post, the whole Oracle thing doesn't make sense to me, especially when Spock and Kirk are working to help the people and the all-powerful Oracle decides they must die. But like all episodes of this caliber, it does have a few bright spots, the biggest being McCoy gets the girl and even gets married.
Collin Freeman
2023-02-25 01:11:54 +0000 UTCAgreed. The Oracle doesn't work for me. Why does it want to help the people but keep them in the dark about anything that could help them?
Collin Freeman
2023-02-25 01:08:04 +0000 UTCJon Lormer played the old guy who died. He had previously played roles in Return of the Archons and The Menagerie (and in fact, the music cue when he enters is taken from The Menagerie/The Cage).
James H
2023-02-25 00:43:16 +0000 UTCA few snippets of music originally scored for "The Empath", an episode which had yet to air, can be heard. That Oracle is an asshole. Imagine if I met you guys, and we shook hands, and then then I punched you both in the face and yelled "LEARN WHAT IT MEANS TO BE MY ENEMY BEFORE YOU LEARN WHAT IT MEANS TO BE MY FRIEND.
MntrTodd
2023-02-24 21:27:38 +0000 UTCAny disembodied voice is pretty much James Doohan, Bart LaRue, or Walker Edmiston. Or occasionally Abraham Sofaer.
James H
2023-02-24 14:18:27 +0000 UTCBtw, I just watched a comparison between the Motion Picture DVD and Blue Ray , which is a 4k scan of the original film. I recommend getting the Directory's Cut BlueRay from 2022... the visual quality improvement is amazing, and that movie relies heavilyon the effects,so you'll benefit greatly from watching it that way. It's not re-made effects, just a higher res scan of the original film material from what I can see.
Andreas Schmitt
2023-02-24 11:01:43 +0000 UTCComparison of old and new effects: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sDya1eCyqgM
Andreas Schmitt
2023-02-24 10:58:00 +0000 UTCThis one is okay but nothing I ever feel like rewatching. Next one I think is my favorite of the season, even with one questionable audio edit. The lack of speaking parts here brought the energy down but I assume that might be budget cuts in action. Bones had Nancy, way back in Season 1 Episode 1 btw.
Ken R
2023-02-24 08:12:19 +0000 UTCOne thing that really bothers me about this episode is except for the Oracle and Natira as well as the old man no one else has any dialog. I realize time was short to ensure the connection between her and McCoy was solidified but there was not one guard to protest their arrival even to warn of being cautious to aliens none have ever contacted before. No female friend or family member of Natira to confide in especially regarding her instant connection with Bones yet seemingly having had no interest in men from Yonada. You would also think besides dark and dingy corridors there would be open spaces besides the surface and trees, plants etc to give a better illusion of being on a planet because even the fake surface was just dirt, but then on the surface of the planet where the children killed their parents looked exactly the same with no proper buildings to even suggest people live there so this season the budget for sets and matte paintings must've really been cut compared to the last 2 seasons.
Brad Barter
2023-02-24 05:43:33 +0000 UTCOnce again the romantic music here is new and will be utilized again but it flows well and doesn't get tiresome or annoying, infact I own some of the music from TOS on CD and love hearing it without dialog.
Brad Barter
2023-02-24 05:35:30 +0000 UTCJames Doohan was able to do multiple voices, little did he know here his talents as well as George Takei and Majel Barrett Roddenberry to do voices will soon come in handy for the Star Trek Animated series.
Brad Barter
2023-02-24 05:33:11 +0000 UTCLOL I have to comment. You just asked has there been any romance stories for Bones. Answer yes a big one........ The Man Trap .... the love interest was a salt sucking gray haired shape shifter.... No wonder he swore off women after that. That is NOT something you could easily get over seeing it knowing you kissed it yikes
Prof Moff
2023-02-24 00:17:50 +0000 UTCHEY. I'll have you know those swords are real. Hand crafted and made from the finest material. And of course purchased at the finest merchant store in ALL the land Toy-R-US
Prof Moff
2023-02-24 00:01:10 +0000 UTC57:41 Probably lots of orgies, ya know. Not one of my favorites, but more D Kelley is always welcome. Dr. McCoy is still my favorite Trek doctor. It's interesting to note that Deforrest Kelley was often in really heavy duty bad guy roles prior to Star Trek. He was in a number of black and white westerns as a villainous character... but he loved McCoy. He loved that he inspired so many young people. And he truly was the southern gentlemen that McCoy was. Nobody who worked on Trek has ever uttered a bad word about him. Everyone loved him. He lived a quiet, private life with his wife and they were married for many years, up until his death. Also, Kelley, was very very popular with the ladies, and he recounts his favorite fan letter here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgcE6NxgrEc
Steven Johnson
2023-02-23 23:54:09 +0000 UTCI think this is one of the most famous and well known episodes of TOS. And plenty of shows have re-told this story. It's about blind belief, faith, truth, being a sceptic, questioning, the search for knowledge and how to keep those in balance. The show The Orville did an adaptation of this episode not so long ago, to honor Star Trek, which inspired it. I'm a bit sorry Alex didn't enjoy it that much, but I get it. Too many computer villains :) But I think this one is in some people's favorite list. However some citics share your view on it. According to Wikipedia: Star Trek novelist Dayton Ward wrote, "For the World is Hollow and I Have Touched the Sky" is a decent idea, in and of itself. The idea of a generational ship encased in an asteroid is well worth exploring. After all, variations on the concept were already a staple of science fiction long before Star Trek came along. My biggest problem is why someone—the Fabrini—felt it necessary to conceal the truth behind the "worldship" from its population. Wouldn't it make more sense for the generations of Yonadans to be informed as to their purpose, and be working and training the next generation(s) to be ready for when the ship arrives at its destination? Instead, they're wandering the halls, apparently doing little more than tossing Frisbees and getting the occasional spanking from the Oracle. ... The episode is typical of the third season: Long on talk, light on action, adequate yet hardly spectacular in execution." Which reflects Alex' citicisms basically 1:1 hehe. One of the origins is apparently Orphans of the Sky, a 1941 novel by Robert A. Heinlein, in which a generation ship is populated by descendants of an original crew similarly degenerated into pre-technological savagery and ignorant of the spacecraft's original purpose. Heinlein was one of THE sci fi writers, so I'm pretty sure the people who wrote this had read his story :) And if anything this episode is something some could learn from regarding love: "But we're strangers to each other." "But is not that the nature of men and women? That the pleasure is in the learning of each other?" "Until I saw you, there was nothing in my heart. It sustained my life, but nothing more. Now it sings. I could be happy to have that feeling for a day, a week, a month, a year." Now THAT is romance :) Also.. apparently "The Book" in this episode was the same prop as the book the mobsters learned from in "A piece of the action"
Andreas Schmitt
2023-02-23 23:20:44 +0000 UTCI guess Alex really can't stand Kirk vs Computer stuff anymore haha Alex, I think you would have a lot of trouble watching stuff from the late 60s and 70s. Computers and robots were a totally new concept back then, so they made it into tons of sci fi stories. Now that everybody has a phone that's 1000 times more powerful than anything they had, that stuff is not so exciting anymore. but back then almost every 3rd episode of any show had some computer or robot as the enemy haha.
Andreas Schmitt
2023-02-23 23:10:27 +0000 UTCWe just assume he is any disembodied voice at this point haha
Josh (Target Audience)
2023-02-23 22:47:57 +0000 UTCAh! The lovely. Talented and classy Kate Woodville. Did you get that James Doohan was the voice of the oracle?
Rich Cirivilleri
2023-02-23 22:04:21 +0000 UTC
