UNCUT REACTION - Star Trek The Original Series - The Omega Glory S2E23
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The Omega Glory is in my top 15 episodes. Kirk is explaining how everyone should get democracy. I admit that other things about the story don't seem to fit, but still a favorite.
Robert April
2025-02-03 22:49:54 +0000 UTCYeah this one is pretty infamous among TOS fans. Not only was the "parallel Earth society" trope wearing pretty thin with how often it was used, this was one of the least believable examples with how ridiculously close the comparison was. This was basically Roddenberry writing a "Murica, fuck yeah" episode with zero subtlety. At least the fight scenes were alright. I like when Kirk first fights Tracey and he's just grinning like "you expected that to work, I have a black belt in Kirk Fu". Also the one guy guarding McCoy getting all defensive when he starts being too friendly with the lady. Like "quit checking out my daughter, she's only 177 years old. Fuckin pervert". Way too many stereotypes and it doesn't even have the "so bad it's good" factor to save it. It's well directed, but terribly written. It's funny Josh mentioned it felt like a 25 minute episode stretched way too far. There are a number of TAS episodes that I think most fans would happily have traded places with this one. This could have been a forgettable 25 minute animated episode while Yesteryear or one of the other good TAS eps got the live action treatment.
Timothy Nikiforovs
2024-04-21 06:19:48 +0000 UTCYou would think, but of course July is usually in the middle of the interseason break
Timothy Nikiforovs
2024-04-21 03:58:20 +0000 UTCI think a few S3 eps top this in "badness" (I won't say which ones here), but this is def my least fave of S2! TREMENDOUSLY HUGE AND LONG EYEROLL, PLEASE
MertzRocks
2023-06-19 00:05:36 +0000 UTCThey made an assumption that it was a parallel society. It was very like the episode #17 - 'A Piece of the Action' where someone had made contact with the society and left the book that totally changed the culture there. They have a flag and a book including copies of USA primary documents. That could have been left by anyone in the past few centuries to resolve the holocaust that was on the planet. That would be more plausible than 'parallel' evolution of the USA culture.
TeenyStudio Flicks
2022-11-26 08:53:02 +0000 UTCThis episide like you guys said starting with the USS Exeter and the bodies turned to crystals was a good hook. In a way it's too bad the didn't have a couple more red shirts to stay on the Exeter, as the rest of the landing party beamed down, then finding the Surgeon's log entry, contact Kirk on the surface relay it and die themselves before being able to beam down. It would've been a better episide like Miri to simply figure out what was killing them. Then they could go into the long life of the inhabitants (which incidentally Miri's exact duplicate of Earth too) also had delved into life prolongation to exend life. But instead it went off the rails with showing a completely separate and alien though human looking culture to have not only similar histories to Earth but to match it exactly with the Caucasians (Yankees) as being from the United States and Asians (Comms) Communists with everything from the Constitution, Pledge of Allegiance to the American flag is totally preposterous. There is no way a completely separate alien society would ever match another so precisely. Also we never saw what they did with the USS Exeter, they simply left the system. My person favourite season of all 3 is season one. There are good episodes in seasons 2 & 3 but when it started it immediately had good stories, makeup etc which over time started becoming a bit comical, too outlandish, childish and far fetched. There are as already seen too many stories of Ambassadors, Commadores, Captains etc who think they know everything but know nothing, argue for the sake of argument, countermand orders, influence alien cultures negatively and aren't decent men. The few that aren't seem few and far between.
Brad Barter
2022-11-25 04:38:12 +0000 UTCYeah, I think I'll skip watching this one with you, this is a very cringe episode for me. Even as a I child, I didn't really get it, because I was too young to understand all the concepts. When I got older, it still didn't make sense. And I'm Chinese American, so I now find a lot of this episode uncomfortable, and the lame patriotic theme got worse and worse to look at, and now is just painful. But I will always respect your criticism. For every good episode there's at least a couple really bad ones, especially in Season 3. (Some of those episodes, I haven't seen in years because they were bad). Whenever I binge this series, there are many episodes that I will skip. And I'd rather have someone outright say 'this was horribly done' than the very common 'Eh, it didn't really do it for me, but overall it was great'. And it is wonderful for me, to listen to people point out the same reason why I hate these episodes too.
Firekrys FWO
2022-11-24 18:59:19 +0000 UTCHappy Thanksgiving!
Josh (Target Audience)
2022-11-24 13:58:59 +0000 UTCSo, he says " E Plebnista" for "We The People", that is based on latin and "pleb". Today, a plebiscite is the vote of the people, a pleb is like a common man. If you go watch V for Vendetta that film makes good use of the song "cry me a river" and she sings "you told me love was too plebeian" The episode is saved by Shatner's hammy speech at the end. The next two are okay I guess but the best episodes are now in the rearview mirror.
Ken R
2022-11-24 10:05:46 +0000 UTCI hate this episode so much but I sure did enjoy your reaction! This is the first time I've watched it in many years and honestly, the end was more cringe than I remember. It makes no sense. Do yourselves a favor and try to forget it and move on π There are still some great ones coming up.
Gary Leyh
2022-11-24 06:12:02 +0000 UTCTake out the parallel Earth Yankee vs Chinese stuff, and this would be a decent story about a mysterious disease and a rogue captain.
tyranusfan
2022-11-24 03:35:49 +0000 UTCThat means a lot! I know you said no need to thank you, but thank you! hahah
Josh (Target Audience)
2022-11-24 01:11:16 +0000 UTCHappy Thanksgiving my fellow Americans.
BURKE Wells
2022-11-24 00:48:55 +0000 UTCThis is a stinker amongst the fandom. You would think they aired this on the 4th of July. Started out with something interesting than threw it away.
BURKE Wells
2022-11-24 00:47:48 +0000 UTCNo need to thank me, for me this is a no brainer. I can be a fan of Star Wars but admit that the Ewoks were probably a tiny bit silly. I don't like people who call themselves fans, but are just fans because being a fan of that property is cool at the time and just suck everything up that has the brand on it. I enjoy watching fans that enjoy content because it's actually good. You guys became Star Trek fans because you genuinely enjoyed it, when you didn't even expect it. From what I understood you were originally curious about TNG and only watched TOS because you thought 'hey why not start at the beginning' and you expected TOS to be totally silly and campy. The fact that you became fans because the content positively surprised you makes you more Star Trek fans than all those reaction channels that cheer on some of the lastest bad shows just because being a fan of big franchise is cool now, and critisizing something is somehow being a 'hater'. You guys became fans for the same reason all of us older Trek fans became fans. Not because every single episode of Trek had good writing, but because there are absolute golden episodes, and because the characters are so great that you enjoy watching them even when the episode itself is absolute garbage. We enjoyed Return of the Jedi despite the really stupid idea of Ewoks defeating walkers because we were so invested in Han Chewie and Leia at the time and just wanted these guys to win. That doesn't mean anybody pointing out that those teddy bears were a bit silly is a hater. We all know they're silly, but we're willing to overlook that because the rest is soo good. But being a true fan also means that you don't lose perspective and you keep pointing out when something doesn't live up to the standard the property itself has set. And you guys do exactly that. The fact that you love the character of Kenobi but you still pointed out the flaws of the show, and didn't blindly cheer it on because "OMG IT'S KENOBI", is what made me subscribe. Sure I stuck around for Trek and I love that you properly give it a hard time when that's warranted, but it was that initial reaction that made me sub to you and eventually become a patreon. That told me that you were true fans, not just people riding a hype train or being a fan of something because being a fan is cool. No you're fans because you see something in the content, and you want that content to be good, so you tell it as it is when it's not.
Andreas Schmitt
2022-11-23 23:40:21 +0000 UTCThank you Andreas
Josh (Target Audience)
2022-11-23 22:47:53 +0000 UTCOn a lighter note years ago I downloaded the sound file of fighting as my ringtone for my 1st smartphone and have used it for every phone since. Its called Star Trek TOS Hand to Hand Combat. Btw you have one more episode at some point in the future with a parallel hey that's not believable storyline. You'll see.
Sherman Lin
2022-11-23 22:19:05 +0000 UTCDon't worry about being too critical. That's why I watched you guys in the first place, your negative reaction to the Kenobi show as well. Sure it's fun to see other people get excited about a piece of content and fully enjoy it, but it's not fun if that enjoyment is either a) totally faked for youtube views or b) because those people have such low quality standards that they are basically enjoying anything. It's MUCH more fun with you guys when you enjoy something because you have reasons to enjoy it, because it satisfies your standards of entertainment or what you are used to from that show. Not just enjoy it for enjoyment's sake. Keep that up, there will be bad star trek movies, there will be plenty of bad episodes in every single one of the shows.. Star Trek is great, but that doesn't mean every single piece of it was great. There were stinkers here and there along the way, and it's valid to point those out.
Andreas Schmitt
2022-11-23 21:44:41 +0000 UTCYou guys, sorry but I fucking hate this episode. It is SO cringe. π° Difficult to sit through.
Lin Phillips
2022-11-23 21:17:31 +0000 UTCAh yes, the Canadian actor recites the preamble to the US Constitution and saves the day. Definitely 1 of the episodes that belongs more towards the bottom of the list in terms of quality. As Ken Cullison noted in his comment, Roddenberry wrote this episode as a potential 2nd pilot script and it shows. Gene Roddenberry had some great ideas but he was a poor writer, imo. This was the episode I was alluding to in my comment for The Doomsday Machine when Alex mentioned all non-Enterprise Starfleet officers are dicks - which the show certainly does make it seem that way.
Collin Freeman
2022-11-23 21:05:49 +0000 UTCThis episode basically shows perfectly why the current woke crap in TV shows and movies will look SOOO shit in a couple decades. It's not timeless, it's INCREDIBLY specific to current politics and it's just WAY too on the nose. it doesn't age well and it's always cringe to future generations (and to most of the current one). They should have learned from stuff like this, which proved that putting current day stuff too obviously into a story make it age like milk. Gene Roddenberry was a great visionary but unfortunately he was also an absolute shit writer. It's a sad trope but whenever the American Flag shows up, you can bet that the involved episode is always shit. To me personally this is BY FAR the worst of all star Trek episodes across all shows. And yes I'm counting the Enterprise Finale in that.
Andreas Schmitt
2022-11-23 20:38:32 +0000 UTCI rank this one as the best of my least favorite episodes. For me this and The Deadly years are the worst episodes of season 2. The last three shows of season 2 are among my favorites that many consider average. Now that I kind of "know" you guys - I'm thinking you will like 2 out of the 3. The next one has a theme that is getting rather tired these days but was ground breaking at the time. With all due respect to Twighlight Zone and The Outer Limits I think it is the mother of its sub-genre in movies and television. It made people talk about the possibilities.
Ricky Johnson
2022-11-23 20:01:51 +0000 UTCThe good thing about this episode are the close-ups of the hand phasers (types I and II).
Ron
2022-11-23 19:40:05 +0000 UTCThis was a strange one, full of "roll eyes" moments. This was one of three scripts, along with Mudd's Women and Where No Man Has Gone Before, which were in the running for the second pilot. Glad they picked the right one or Trek might have never gone to series. Roddenberry really pushed for this script to be the 2nd pilot since he wrote it. The Viewmaster people wanted to do a set for the show, and Roddenberry made sure they came to the studio the week this ep was filming to take the photos. Roddenberry was always on the lookout for business opportunities.
Stardate 1312.4
2022-11-23 19:09:20 +0000 UTCSuch a bad story. You Americans and your flag ;)
AzoriusMage
2022-11-23 19:09:17 +0000 UTC
