HEARTSTOPPER S2 EP2 - UNCUT!
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Something missing from the book at the end of that confrontation with David: Nick kisses Charlie before Charlie heads home. There was something very comforting about the kiss, kind of like Nick saying that even though he was upset with his brother, he wasn't upset with the situation. In the show, he just seemed scared and didn't know how to handle it, but it left Charlie feeling more regret for making Nick go through that.
Tova Griffel
2024-12-04 00:34:49 +0000 UTCI am soooo with Josh on the whole grammar thing. It drives me insane!
VV
2024-10-25 06:47:08 +0000 UTCI hate that this episode made me think "how would I parent Charlie in this schoolwork situation" xD I came up with: Charlie's grounded, and to do work at the living room/dining room table where one of the parents can see. Would allow Nick to join him with his gsce work for a little study date moment, but still within my eyesight, not in their bedroom. Basically, Nick can be there, but YOU, young man, are doing your work.
Dawid Zawolski
2024-02-22 13:11:16 +0000 UTCCrazy how Olivia filmed the fiery argument stairs argument scene with none of the rest of the cast in the scene, disguised in an edit in the whip pan.
Plz9
2024-01-28 21:58:51 +0000 UTCYour reactions are revealing more indepthness about you both, your experiences, your present feelings, I enjoy these discussions, observations, emotions and sharing of thoughts and feelings, gg
Gina Lipkin
2023-12-19 19:00:08 +0000 UTCI replayed that moment when Alex burped “I’m happy” and Josh exaggerated it, FAR TOO MANY times! 🤣🤣🤣: 🤢 I’m happy - 🤢 I’m happy - “BURRUPP!!!”
Gavin Best
2023-09-23 00:46:35 +0000 UTCActually they didn’t have to! Matt Biffa, the composer for Heartstoppers tweeted when someone said “Heartstopper got Taylor Swift, they got big bucks” that “No, she thought the scene was beautiful and we were able to make it work”
Angela Smith
2023-09-04 17:08:22 +0000 UTCYeah. At the end of the day, they are kids. As Josh said, it is simple parenting.
Kevin
2023-08-26 14:33:16 +0000 UTCyou guys are just the best, love you both<3
Kennia
2023-08-10 03:47:04 +0000 UTCyea Charlie is the one who looks around for people while Nick pulls him over. I love that parallel
Rosie Dickinson
2023-08-08 16:42:20 +0000 UTCI am a big Mr Ajayi fan as well. Yaz is amazing. The interval between season 1 and season 2, plus the fact that Joe and Kit know each other much better now has really made their connection on screen much stronger, I think and their intimate scenes are really powerful now. 🥰
Graham & Ruth May
2023-08-07 15:54:59 +0000 UTCnot to keep commenting, but I really loved the parallel of the park scenes from S1 to S2. The first season, Nick couldn't feel comfortable kissing in the park, and even though hes still struggling with being out completely here, hes taking steps towards it every episode, because he doesn't care one bit during this seasons park scene about kissing.
Mads
2023-08-07 15:10:46 +0000 UTCHahaha loved that you thought the Truham logo was the T-Mobile logo 😂😂 but yeah so much product placement. They had to pay for that Taylor Swift song somehow 💷
David Watt
2023-08-07 11:58:40 +0000 UTCThank you so much !
Florence H - France
2023-08-07 11:29:55 +0000 UTCit DEFINITELY feels more intense! i think the characters are barely a few weeks older tho :) even though Kit looks pretty different :D i truly love all of them, for me i think Joe who plays Charlie and Yasmin who plays Elle are the stand outs but for sure Kit is remarkable and the actors playing Tao and Tara and Darcy and Mr Ajayi are amazing they give their characters such life and depth and specificity. i also love Tao's mom a lot. and i loved Isaac's arc.
xbujorx
2023-08-07 05:47:32 +0000 UTCThe bi erasure and phobia I experienced when I got in a serious relationship and eventually married a man hit me so hard it basically put me back in the closet because I couldn't handle hearing that coming from the community I used to lean on when I was with women. Over the last couple years I've worked a lot in further self discovery and owning my identity. I've seen a lot of people in the LGBT+ community coming out against biphobia and it's helped so much so thank you for everything you've said.
Celeste Kontos
2023-08-07 05:10:57 +0000 UTCWhen can we expect the next episodes? I just can't wait... Have a mercy ;)
Silme Elen
2023-08-06 18:08:04 +0000 UTCHeading out in 5 minutes to march with my husband Eddie in the Pride Parade here in Vancouver, BC. We finished HeartStopper Season 2 late last night and am so moved by all of these characters and their journeys. I'm feeling a lot of intense emotion: joy, but also some empathy exhaustion from watching the show. But it's a great show. Alice Oseman and all those involved have created something beautiful. Now off to Pride. I came out in 1990, but, you know. Still having to come out every day.
David Gadd
2023-08-06 18:00:50 +0000 UTCI think season 2 feels more intense and somehow deeper and not just because the characters are slightly older now. The whole cast is great, but the connection between Nick and Charlie is portrayed so sensitively and Kit Connor is just stand out, for me, at least.
Graham & Ruth May
2023-08-06 17:35:03 +0000 UTCIt took me a LONG time to realise. There were lots of reasons for that which I'm still untangling in my 40s.
Jennifer Fell
2023-08-06 13:05:53 +0000 UTCWell said. Very eloquently put. I mentioned in my comment that the fact Nicks mum tells David off for swearing and going into Nicks room rather than being a homophobe is not great and this is why... but I didn't have the words to put that across as amazingly as you have here x
Jennifer Fell
2023-08-06 13:02:10 +0000 UTCi for one had this sensation of being high during/after watching this season. it was just too much i was so overwhelmed so much queer happiness portrayed, so many different kinds of queerness too, and so many important conversations around being queer and coming out and so much more, realistic problems and sadness and worry too, to an extent and in ways that we truly haven't seen before on film - and i didn't honestly expect that i thought i was pretty chill and it couldn't possibly be quite as good as it actually was! i am still processing having somewhat come down from that high now :D
xbujorx
2023-08-06 09:45:05 +0000 UTCWell 4 items back: blue/yellow, the log from S1E6 girls, Charlie’s eating disorder & Charlie’s mental illness 😢💔
Tina Stellato
2023-08-06 08:08:37 +0000 UTCThis season tugged at my heart strings for sure. Ive read the novels and was still shocked seeing it on screen. I so enjoy both of your reactions! I am looking forward to seeing your reactions to the rest of the season. I do agree with Josh. Charlie does need some ground rules and separation for not completing school work. Charlie is prioritizing everyone but himself and his school work is reflective of this. However his mother’s approach is not helpful. Tao’s mother demonstrates how to help her son understand his feelings and make decisions that help him move forward.
Samm Daugherty
2023-08-06 04:13:09 +0000 UTCI think the thing with Ben is that his ego requires that he convince himself Nick is just like him, because otherwise he has to actually face that he's done a lot of bad things. It's safer to just believe that everyone else is the same as you but just pretending to be good people than confront the terrible person you have been
Raine in Chaos
2023-08-06 00:42:38 +0000 UTC🤣 you were both on opposite sides of so many topics in this episode, Mr Farouk, grammar, parental punishments, the importance of coursework. It was fun watching you as always
Heidi Roush
2023-08-05 23:58:38 +0000 UTCGreat work. I am beginning to realise how having read the comics (and associated books) has insulated me from experiencing the drama of the story. It is a strange thing to understand. Your perspectives are so raw and in the moment, which is a thing I can't experience because of that, but which is in, and of itself, a joy to watch along with. A comment from ep.2.01 was that someone felt like they were experiencing this again watching along with friends. I feel the same (awww!) Anyway, no spoilers, I want to see you react as the story unfolds and you see what happens next. I don't want to be the guy who has seen the movie and then taken friends along and anticipated the beats for them inadvertently. So I really am going to just shut up. Thanks again, you made my wet and cold Sunday morning (winter down here).
Steve Marshall
2023-08-05 22:40:14 +0000 UTCI had a similar experience when I was a teen in the early 2000's and it really fucks with your head. You know who you are but are then told that your identity is wrong because it doesn't exist. David is just such a cockwomble for so many reasons but his bi-phobia is top of the list.
Rosie Dickinson
2023-08-05 22:38:27 +0000 UTCAlso because she didn't talk to Charlie she removed the best most motivating part of his world and left him without any outlet so all he can do is sit in his head. Charlie doesn't do well with that kind of stress and tends to blame himself (as we saw). Nick talks him down when he gets this way and helps him stay focused. I don't get any homophobia from this I just get overly strict mum who doesn't understand her son very well.
Rosie Dickinson
2023-08-05 22:28:39 +0000 UTCAbout Charlie's mom, I think there's a huge difference between unconsciously having double standards in how strict & overprotective you're with your gay son when he gets a boyfriend vs. how strict & overprotective you'd be if he was straight & instead of a boyfriend he had gotten a girlfriend, and being a capital-H Homophobe, and Charlie's mom's case is definitely NOT the latter, both in the show & in the graphic novels. She's still horrible, but not for that reason.
Mikel
2023-08-05 21:05:06 +0000 UTCSorry, but you talked over one of the best lines so far. Tao's Mom tells him he has to fight to follow Elle. And Tao says, "Also, Elle's not dead. So there's that."
Dennis Verner
2023-08-05 20:07:25 +0000 UTCDavid is definitely a huge ass, but did you notice how Ben first looked at Nick and THEN pulled Imogen closer?!?!
dnh1286
2023-08-05 19:47:10 +0000 UTCWatching this where David's homophobia is treated basically the same as any other sort of sibling squabbling, and it got me thinking. Having a shot at someone's queerness is not the same as any other kind of bullying. Queerphobic behavior isn't just one kid harassing another - that mockery and derision carries with it the weight and force of our entire culture's bigotry toward queer people. When my brother called me a faggot, he wasn't just my belligerent younger sibling. He was the rest of the world right at that moment, our culture's bigotry lending his words weight that it wouldn't ordinarily carry. And really, that's the essence of bigotry. It's a force multiplier, in a lot of ways. It's like society builds up momentum behind bigoted slurs, taunts, and "jokes," making them land harder and cut deeper than they ordinarily would otherwise. Marginalized folks who are the target of bigoted behavior - even by people who are just looking for a way under your skin, who don't actually hold prejudices of that type - can feel the impact of those words far beyond what the individual does or even intends. They hit with the weight of the whole world.
Joseph Carriker
2023-08-05 19:30:36 +0000 UTCI went to prom with a girl, never hit me til my mid-20s how very gay that was. I never could "own" what I completely missed. This show would have enlightened me a lot earlier. No other sexuality do people ask for your sex history to prove it, and they really think they can inform you better and it fucks with your mind every single time someone tries to illlegitimatize you.
Mads
2023-08-05 17:23:15 +0000 UTC1. Davids back from Uni. 2. its just two weeks of GSCE study hall, startng with 14 days, then it went to 5 days The bi-erasure is insane. I remember a gay friend telling me in high school "bi is just a highway to gay, people just use it when they aren't ready to come out yet" that single sentence put me back years to figuring out my sexuality because I knew I liked guys but was unsure about girls, and that sentence got me to ignore exploring further. ah, 2009 since you mentioned it, if you went back to season 1, you'd see lots of scenes of charlie with food, that he never eats. it was so subtle, people without eating disorders would miss it. PS - make sure to put translations for paris, there's french involved. PPS - your use of the "thats gay" is such a millennial moment
Mads
2023-08-05 17:15:52 +0000 UTCThe more the story gets into showing where Charlie is internalizing a lot and starting to fail with school work and starting to even physically hold hisself in a way to look smaller was where I recognized a lot of myself. Absolutely correct that he's got Nick as his only confidant and everything else is he's internalizing. I do like that it's not shying away from showing how that looks and maybe how easy it is to miss. Being bi myself, the "just admit you're gay" is one of the things that made it so difficult for me to even come out. His brother should just go back to prison lol
pawntksqueen
2023-08-05 16:26:18 +0000 UTCFirst, congrats on 20k!!!! I'm pretty sure you gained 3k in the past week. Also, I'm a bit of a grammar Nazi as well, so I'm with Josh on that one. I'm not getting the warm fuzzies I got last series, but I'm still really enjoying every moment. Definitely more mature and complex. Charlie is someone who will always put others before himself. While that outwardly makes him an amazing friend, internally he's barely holding himself together, and I'm afraid his continued lack of self worth is going to come crashing down sooner than later. In an interview before this series premiered, Rhea said that Imogen is going to focus more on herself and less on boys. That needs to happen like now! Also, David can piss off!
Chris Metzger
2023-08-05 16:17:11 +0000 UTCI think the voice note was perfect. Reading that in a message is one thing, but Charlie NEEDED to HEAR Nick's voice saying that. It was a sweet gesture especially after a sour ending to their evening.
Zach Hilts
2023-08-05 15:57:38 +0000 UTCFor now I don't really like Nicks brother. The whole "just admit you're gay" really just give out Biphobia/ not acknowledging it, because he acts like being bi doesn't excist or is weird, but that is a part of Nicks identity, so he should accept that, instead of being an ass about it. And also whenever Nick says "I'm bi actually" it seems like he is kinda defending himself, kinda have to remind folks that bi is there too, because they might just not think about it, or just assume you must be gay, if you're not straight. With most around Nick it feels like they mean well and just forget to think about it a bit, but his brother is so bad!
Sara Nissen
2023-08-05 15:26:00 +0000 UTCI am loving Josh’s preoccupation with grammar, but then I would, because I spent all my working life teaching English in secondary schools. Also loving Alex’s anger at Ben and David..long may it continue..it almost definitely will, btw, as neither of them are likely to improve on further acquaintance, in my opinion. The episode is called Family for obvious reasons, but I find the exploration of the role of fathers of the male characters in the show really interesting, because either they’re absent for some reason (Nick and Tao) or ineffectual if basically caring (Charlie) and therefore the mothers have become particularly important to the characters’ growing up process and developing sense of their own identity. We’ll see more parenting issues explored later, I think..
Graham & Ruth May
2023-08-05 14:51:38 +0000 UTCI will never not be grateful for the rep this show has given young and older queer peeps
Jennifer Fell
2023-08-05 14:32:36 +0000 UTCEven the fact that you felt the need to clarify that you aren’t poly speaks pretty loudly to the conversation surrounding people who are bi and I just can’t get over the gratitude to Alice Oseman for writing Nick’s story with such respect for his identity
Hannah Howden
2023-08-05 14:30:20 +0000 UTCI believe the Titanic was listing @Josh.😁 Jack Barton (David) was in Letter for the King series. Worth a watch He has bulked up just like Kit it appears.
IRONDOG98
2023-08-05 14:29:15 +0000 UTCCharlies dad is lovely but he needs to STAND UP to Charlies mum...
Jennifer Fell
2023-08-05 13:50:50 +0000 UTCAs a bi woman I'm so glad you addressed the biphobia and bierasure spouted by David and I think its something that affects the whole queer spectrum. It's so difficult to navigate. When you do come out you're never quite sure what to expect. I've told a good friend before and her response was "Oh no! Please don't cheat on your partner with a woman". That really hurt and its made my coming out journey much more difficult. (To be clear I don't have an issue with people being polyamorous/ethical non monogamy if all parties consent but I am a monogamous person) People think they have a right to know every part of your history so they can "decide" if you're bi enough to have a right to the label. And then your identity gets erased dependant on what gender your partner is. I agree that Nicks mum could have gone further. She was telling David off for swearing and going in Nicks room when actually the issue was that he was being a homophobic arsehole. And it's not like she has to keep Nicks identity secret or navigate him telling David... thats already passed. That whole scene was so uncomfortable but they really really nailed how it feels. On the plus side of coming out though every queer person I've told has responded with some variation of "Oh I thought so... hang on did you only just work it out?". Our lesbian god daughter said "Well, yeah... you're really not serving straight" 😂. Queer people know. Straight people are just like "Oh I thought you were just a quirky dresser/very left wing/a strong ally of the LGBTQIA+ community" Comphet is strong!
Jennifer Fell
2023-08-05 13:49:27 +0000 UTCOoh didn't expect the next reaction video so soon, love it!
Rosie Carlisle
2023-08-05 13:47:51 +0000 UTCFirst, David can just fall off a cliff 👎🏽 Second, the whole parenting thing. While I agree with Charlie’s mom that he needs to prioritize, she is missing the whole actually talking to him part. Like, as a parent it’s your job to help your child make the right choices but you don’t do that by just telling them what to do. Talk to them, establish ground rules, help them on how to prioritize/organize his time, set boundaries, etc etc etc I’m was a school counselor and now I’m a school counseling educator and my students and I talk all the time about the expectations that adults have on kids. We make these assumptions that they already know how to do these things for themselves and they don’t. Think about all the adults you know that can’t manage, it doesn’t start in adulthood. These are skills that we are not focusing on and expect that they’ll just pick it up along the way but they don’t if we’re not intentional about it. So, Charlie’s mom needs to take a chill pill and actually talk to her son - ESPECIALLY after everything he went through! AND she needs to talk to her husband and come to a middle ground!
Laura Ibarra
2023-08-05 13:41:40 +0000 UTCthis show is almost becoming a young royals light with all the drama that is happening. Hopefully it become more hopeful and happy in later episodes.
indigo
2023-08-05 13:33:09 +0000 UTCJosh and I on the same line of the same page! Charlie needs to just do his bloody homework, and sloppy grammar makes me itch!
Jacqueline Hahn
2023-08-05 13:13:39 +0000 UTCI got to agree with Josh on the Charlie's parents issue. Part of being a parent is trying to help your children make good choices because they have to make their own choices very soon. It can seem harsh to ground him because of the missed school work, but if Charlie was making the best decisions, he would already be balancing his relationship and his class work. It may seem uncaring, but that's part of parenting. And probably in the future Charlie will do a better job of enjoying his relationship with Nick, but also keeping time to do the homework.
Chris Foster
2023-08-05 12:40:20 +0000 UTCThere definitely is a lot of turmoil in this season. What I love is that each character’s storyline is coming to the surface throughout the episodes. Not a fan of David and Thank Goodness for Tori. Plus, I loved seeing Miss Singh with her hair down
Diane Furlong
2023-08-05 12:37:10 +0000 UTCI also wanted Nick's mum to go further in calling David out, but I actually think Heartstopper does a really good job of exploring the variety of responses and why they are good or not. I feel like we're shown that she's a loving parent but they clearly haven't talked about these issues before Nick coming out, so as a parent you might feel like you've failed if your child spews homophobia/biphobia and it must be hard to come to terms with and deal with in the moment. Not that it makes it okay, obviously. I feel like so many parents would benefit from watching this show and seeing how important it is to make home a safe environment, and have these important conversations with their children from when they're very young.
Florence
2023-08-05 12:34:49 +0000 UTCi noticed you guys aren’t watching via netflix and i saw tao’s mom wasn’t being translated so i fear when they go on the paris trip a certain character speaking in french won’t be translated as well… 😔😔😔
k8ie
2023-08-05 12:24:54 +0000 UTCI knew your faces would drop on that bullshit David said! He’s the worst… and so is Ben!
Frances
2023-08-05 11:42:58 +0000 UTCNope, can't take to Charlie's mom. If Nicks mom and Charlie's dad were together, they would have to be considered as just the best :)
steve johnson
2023-08-05 11:41:40 +0000 UTCI agree with Charlie's mum a little - at age 15, it's very easy to become obsessed with first love. And, it's clear Charlie is prioritising Nick over himself. The parents are just trying to keep things in proportion.
Sunil
2023-08-05 11:31:26 +0000 UTCAha!! You tried slipping this in when I wasn’t looking 😁 Happy to watch. Thanks
Diane Furlong
2023-08-05 11:23:10 +0000 UTCThank you for this!! Excited to continue seeing your reactions <33
Maisie
2023-08-05 11:12:54 +0000 UTCThank you ♥️
Frances
2023-08-05 11:04:26 +0000 UTC🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽🙌🏽
Frances
2023-08-05 11:04:18 +0000 UTCyayyy
charlie
2023-08-05 11:01:49 +0000 UTC
