😤 LET’S ARGUE! 😤 (JUNE 2024 Thread)
Added 2024-06-06 17:59:30 +0000 UTCThank you so much for all your support this month! Now's that magical time when you hit us with your HOT TAKES, UNPOPULAR OPINIONS, and TOUGH QUESTIONS; drop em down in the comments and we'll look through them all in a couple of weeks. Let's go!
In case you missed last month's episode: https://www.patreon.com/posts/lets-argue-drake-105317360
Comments
I noticed you did not review the new Ibibio Sound Machine record even though you put all the new singles in the "best new tracks" section of your track roundup episodes. You also have reviewed their albums in the past, so I was surprised you did not review it. Were you not into it? The reason i'm asking is because I loved it.
Hogan99
2024-07-01 03:50:53 +0000 UTCYou don’t do enough track reviews anymore
Drake Parker
2024-06-26 06:24:12 +0000 UTCThough I don’t prefer them, the stooges were the more important proto punk band as appose to the velvet underground. If not music they’re stage presence and overall attitude at the very least played a bigger role
patty
2024-06-21 00:48:17 +0000 UTCI have to ask now that Stone in Focus was added to streaming services! Do you think that in the long run it's a good thing for RDJ to have added it to all the sites that'll just profit off him, or could it have been better for him to leave it off?
Waffles!
2024-06-20 08:27:39 +0000 UTCIf a feature has the best part of the entire album, then it's a knock against the album itself
Kyle Cahill
2024-06-15 18:39:20 +0000 UTCAlicia Keys and "boring" are weird words to use as opposites of one another.
Machine Gun Philly
2024-06-15 13:52:44 +0000 UTCNirvana gets WAY too much credit now. They are the only grunge band represented on lists AT ALL, which is insane considering how influential and great the genre is - as well as popular. They also inspired plenty of "butt rock," from the likes of Nickelback, Puddle of Mudd and Seether (I've confirmed all of these, by the way). The other grunge bands, particularly Pearl Jam and Alice in Chains, deserve way more of the credit that only Nirvana gets. This band had only THREE albums - and their debut wasn't even that great. It's just OK. Nirvana is NOT the only gunge band.
Machine Gun Philly
2024-06-15 13:45:51 +0000 UTCBoris has the best discography in modern music. Incredibly consistent while still trying out tons of different styles of different releases and still sounding like Boris no matter what they do.
Abby
2024-06-14 19:57:37 +0000 UTC2001 was the best year for music when specifically talking about the sheer number of great releases. Toxicity, Vespertine, Jane Doe, Discovery, Laterals, The Argument, The Glow Pt. 2, The Cold Vein, Blackwater Park, Is This It, Iowa, The Blueprint, and countless others.
Self-Aware Onion
2024-06-13 13:26:14 +0000 UTCim a 19 yr trans girl and eminem taught me it was okay to be gay back when i was in elementary
9Lives
2024-06-13 05:42:00 +0000 UTCAlicia Keys made New York sound like paradise on Empire State of Mind, whereas Jay Z made New York sound boring
Drake Parker
2024-06-11 21:33:32 +0000 UTCEminem is an LGBT+ ally
Yannick D'Amours
2024-06-10 19:54:43 +0000 UTCListing one's favorites is one thing, but trying to make a definitive, ranked list of the best music is pointless since musical taste is so subjective. I don't understand why anyone makes these lists, and I also don't know why people get upset over placements.
MC Emerson
2024-06-10 19:52:47 +0000 UTCMaxinquaye by Tricky is superior to Dummy and Mezzanine. While Maxinquaye may not be as groundbreaking/legendary as the previously mentioned, it practices Trip Hop’s most basic and recognizable fundamentals better than anybody. Its alluring, spooky, lustful, and melancholy soundscapes are as addictive as they are groovy. MAXINQUAYE DESERVES ITS FLOWERS
patty
2024-06-10 18:12:56 +0000 UTCWhat advice would you have for a content creator that wants to balance out a relationship and content creating such as album reviewing
Caspa
2024-06-09 11:30:05 +0000 UTCI would rather listen to a song that’s really good or really bad rather than listen to an average song. At least with a bad song it’s memorable because it’s bad but with a track that’s mid my minds dopamine receptors start dying off one by one.
Matthew Rhoney
2024-06-09 03:42:52 +0000 UTCI support you
Tuck
2024-06-08 19:12:51 +0000 UTCI’ve heard his peers call him the gentle giant because he was so impressive but with no ego at all. His final album is shockingly good for a man paralysed from the neck down. I agree that Hayes’ ‘Hot Buttered Soul’ is one of the best, but I’d probably throw in at least a ‘Curtis’ or ‘Superfly’ as well.
Louis
2024-06-07 14:48:47 +0000 UTCI think Fancy Like is overhated. The song is catchy, Walker Hayes' vocals are very nice on the ears, and the story of a low-income couple enjoying the simple life is cute and likeable. It's not remotely deep or groundbreaking, but it's unpretentious and kind of a bop.
EnormousTortoise
2024-06-07 04:37:58 +0000 UTCI know it got a lot of critical praise, but Portishead's Third doesn't get talked about enough. I know it's not as influencial or accessible as Dummy, but it's still an incredible and very unique record, full of cool, freaky deaky experimental shit.
QueenMoogle
2024-06-06 22:28:38 +0000 UTCWell as weve seen recently with the publisher seemingly copyright claiming videos on youtube with not like us in them, even if the individual artist does not want to copyright the song, the publisher still may want to even if its against their wishes.
Sheep
2024-06-06 22:25:07 +0000 UTCKendrick removing the copyright on “Not Like Us” is a genius, and frankly underrated, strategy in the Drake beef. Not only does it make it easier to make memes using the without fear if it being taken down, but it also ensured the track would continue its virality for a much longer period of time than it might have if it was still copyrighted. Makes me wonder if in the future we’ll see rappers trying to do the same thing with their diss tracks, but it’s possible that this was just a lighting in a bottle situation for Kendrick.
EZGames69
2024-06-06 22:03:20 +0000 UTCPost rock bands are doomed to fail. When you take into account the trajectory of some of the biggest and most recent bands in the genre (Slint, BC,NR, Talk Talk, Sprain) it all ended in its demise. Sure bands like Godspeed, Swans, and Sigur Ros are still kicking but they went through tumultuous years and breakups (even if they reformed)
Kyle Cahill
2024-06-06 21:47:25 +0000 UTCSpeaking of Curtis god… the last decade of his life was tragic and he pushed through that shit. On his comeback tour a lighting system fell on him and shattered his neck and left all his limbs paralyzed; as soon as his family renovated their house, it burned down and destroyed a lot of his music, he then suffered from phantom limbs and had to get a leg amputated due to diabetes. The incident left him no longer able to play the guitar or even sing. He found out he could sing if he laid completely on his back, so he did this, going line by line to record a final album, and you wouldn’t even be able to tell. During this period as well he was asked about the incident on an interview and he said he was happy that he walked on that stage since if he didn’t it could’ve been someone else that got hit by it. He also remained super positive and just a great person.
rice
2024-06-06 20:37:19 +0000 UTCWith the '2010s-2020s Big 3' of rap essentially having fallen apart given what happened to Drake and J. Cole, do you think that there were two better deserving rappers who should've been alongside Kendrick in the Big 3 all along? Or was there never a 'Big 3' to begin with? I know determining things like this are kind of silly at the end of the day, but I would like to know your take on this.
ToadMan101
2024-06-06 20:05:12 +0000 UTCPop rap is not a genre. It’s either pop or rap
Drake Parker
2024-06-06 19:58:27 +0000 UTCIsaac Hayes and Curtis Mayfield are two of the most under appreciated influential figures in music. Their talent and body of work far outweigh their public recognition, which is a damn/darn shame.
Louis
2024-06-06 19:23:00 +0000 UTCIsaac Hayes is one of the most influential artists of all time and he does not get enough credit. He had a rap song released in 1971, revolutionized soul, song lengths, fashion (he popularized wearing chains), album covers, and more Hot Buttered Soul is also one of, if not THE, greatest album ever made. Even after that he went on to popularize the era of blaxsploitation soundtracks and released a very early example of proto-disco with Theme From Shaft. He then went on to become a big actor in many movies then a voice actor as chef in South Park. That’s not even mentioning the fact he’s the most sampled soul artist of all time besides James brown, he heavily influenced tons of rappers and even featured on a Wu tang album, he was always dripped the fuck out, he was able to revive Stax records, the list goes on TLDR: Isaac Hayes had a giant impact on culture as a whole and he deserves more respect (and Hot Buttered Soul is the best album ever made)
rice
2024-06-06 18:56:56 +0000 UTCNot enough people give credit to hip hop drummers! (I'm sure this applies to all instruments, but this is just from the perspective of a drummer) The only real flashy (and talked about) drummer to crossover that ik off the top of my head is Travis Barker, but the ability to fit in with the beat and still be creative and technical is an art in and of itself! They may not be Dave Weckl, but some of the best to put this celestial set of instruments in a sick beat include Mike D, Anderson .Paak and Questlove, and yet I only see hip hop heads talking about them. You also just can't deny that all those drummers at all those Tiny Desk Concerts sound pretty awesome. Kinda like how flashiness doesn't come from just anyone, vibe and creativity don't either! In fact, I'd take a versatile drummer over a flashy one any day.
Waffles!
2024-06-06 18:54:32 +0000 UTCAlthough bands like Polyphia and Animals as Leaders create great music and demonstrate incredible musicianship, which often redefines the guitar, watching them perform a complete live set isn't enjoyable. Their music is so complex that they have to remain essentially motionless to pull it off.
Piers Ward
2024-06-06 18:51:09 +0000 UTCImagine with me for a second that Kendrick gets a Grammy for Not Like Us, and the camera pans over to Drizzle and he has a smile on like 🙃
Julian Jazzar
2024-06-06 18:20:54 +0000 UTCVince Staples is a more interesting rapper, songwriter, and composer of music than J. Cole. J. cole might beat him in some technical aspects of rapping (not by much) but Vince’s creative output is consistently stronger and he is much less dud-prone.
Aidan Gutierrez
2024-06-06 18:13:15 +0000 UTCI actually find a lot of the tracks on LCD's "Sound of Silver" very derivative. Don't get me wrong, there are some great tracks on the record (N.A.S., Someone Great, NY I Love You, All My Friends) but the rest of the tracklist sounds like a bunch of Talking Heads songs that never saw the light of day.
Dario Mouratidis
2024-06-06 18:13:04 +0000 UTCThe most popular music genres of every decade all share (at least) one thing in common: they're sexually progressive / forward thinking. Just look at the most popular bands or artists, and each was known for pushing boundaries of sex appeal and what's appropriate socially. 50s: Elvis; 60s: Beatles/Stones; 70s: Led Zeppelin; 80s: Madonna/Michael Jackson; 90s: Red Hot Chili Peppers; 00s: Rap in General etc etc. From an industry POV, you could say "sex sells." But really, it's deeper psychologically. It's that the young folks of any generation relate to artists who feel sexually liberating in some way that goes against the grain of their societal elders.
Trevor Young
2024-06-06 18:12:30 +0000 UTCStreetlight Manifesto is way too great of a band for you to never have mentioned them before on your channel. Everything Goes Numb Classic Review 2025 (Keasbey Nights by Catch-22 also acceptable)
Kegan Padot
2024-06-06 18:10:48 +0000 UTCJerry Harrison (of Talking Heads fame) deserves more appreciation. His synth work was excellent, he put together the 'Stop Making Sense' touring band, and his solo album "Casual Gods" is one of the best side projects to come out of the group. But even with all that, it seems like he doesn't get nearly as much credit as the other three members. Maybe I just like underdogs, but it'd be nice to see him get his flowers more often.
Herbieguy
2024-06-06 18:09:22 +0000 UTCprogressive rock and metal took a turn for the worse when artists got preoccupied with making their music as complex and noodly as possible instead of trying to write memorable riffs, melodies and songs. Technical ≠ progressive
bressig
2024-06-06 18:06:43 +0000 UTCI think a lot of Eminems silly bars are fine and not 'cringe'. Their even made interesting by being part of a long rhyme/topic scheme.
Patrick
2024-06-06 18:06:29 +0000 UTCTaylor swift is an incredible songwriter only when she wants to😭 (folklore/evermore)
Dama Petrichor
2024-06-06 18:04:22 +0000 UTCThe most melodramatic rock song is sweet child of mine
Zach S
2024-06-06 18:03:48 +0000 UTCWho is on your math rock Mount Rushmore? I’d argue it’s Polvo, Don Caballero, Slint, and Battles
Chris Hickson
2024-06-06 18:03:43 +0000 UTCSemi charmed life was baby shark for those born in the 90’s and early 2000’s
Zach S
2024-06-06 18:02:55 +0000 UTCWeird question but do you think 2pac was gay???
Oscar Barroso
2024-06-06 18:02:50 +0000 UTCMore US artists need to work with more UK artists and get those artists music crossing over to the US. There’s so much amazing talent over there and most Americans right now know only Central Cee, Dave, AJ Tracey, Skepta and Little Simz.
John Coffey
2024-06-06 18:02:26 +0000 UTC“Dancing on my Own” by Robyn or “Run Away With Me” by Carly Rae Jepsen?
Gone
2024-06-06 18:01:13 +0000 UTC
