Star Wars: The Bad Batch 1x11 - Poll!
Added 2021-07-09 18:18:26 +0000 UTC
Do you think Senator Orn Free Taa is dead or alive due to the "attempted assassination" ?
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Taa was moving after the shot and Rampart said “attempted assassination” so sadly I think he is alive
2021-07-14 18:09:07 +0000 UTCI say dead although I think it is all one big manipulation trick. Admiral Rampart will tell the citizens that it was an attempted assassination and the people will get mad. Then he goes later and says that he officially died from his injuries the outcry will just be greater. I feel that way is how the empire gets support to hunt the proto rebels.
2021-07-12 23:36:57 +0000 UTCIf you look closely at his hand when he is being carried away his hand is moving so he might be alive
2021-07-12 00:20:35 +0000 UTCI'm voting alive even though I haven't read the comic, just because I like the idea that he is literally so fat, that extra fat padding around his skull could've saved him from a direct headshot
2021-07-11 23:43:02 +0000 UTCAs Aaron usually says..."DEATH!!"
GoodAsGo1d
2021-07-11 14:35:53 +0000 UTCI think dead. On another note, Gobi is in the clone wars during the Ima-gum di episode and the mace episode
Matthew Juttner
2021-07-11 13:47:23 +0000 UTCConsidering he plays a part in the book "Lords of the Sith", which takes place a few years after the events here, I'd say there's a good shot he survived.
Darth Skhorrn
2021-07-11 06:28:31 +0000 UTCIt's been a couple years since I've read it, but doesn't he show up in the book Lords of the Sith, which takes place 5 years after ROTS? I think "attempted" was intentional and he's still alive.
Henning
2021-07-11 02:11:35 +0000 UTCHe’s still moving on the ground.
Darth Kal-El (Cory Weston)
2021-07-10 21:45:18 +0000 UTCNope. They said attempted because he’s still alive. He’s moving on the ground and the stretcher.
Darth Kal-El (Cory Weston)
2021-07-10 21:43:13 +0000 UTCPeople have survived being shot in the head. He’s still moving. And canon states he’s alive.
Darth Kal-El (Cory Weston)
2021-07-10 21:42:24 +0000 UTCNope
Darth Kal-El (Cory Weston)
2021-07-10 21:41:52 +0000 UTCIt wasn’t. He’s still moving. And cannot be dead per canon.
Darth Kal-El (Cory Weston)
2021-07-10 21:41:44 +0000 UTCPretty sure Disney themselves have said that shows and movies supercede printed materials for canon purposes. So you are basically correct. If there is a contradiction between printed materials and tv shows/movies, the shows/movies is true canon.
Tim Ott
2021-07-10 21:23:41 +0000 UTC"Dead" seems the obvious answer but considering he (I believe?) canonically shows up in later materials, I'm inclined to think "attempted assassination" was purposeful.
Wolf6120
2021-07-10 20:23:47 +0000 UTChis death seemed pretty definite to me
Lukas
2021-07-10 19:27:13 +0000 UTCHe is Sarlac chow.
Barry
2021-07-10 16:21:41 +0000 UTCDarth Maul 2.0
2021-07-10 15:39:17 +0000 UTCI feel like they wouldn't show the actual shot to the head in a kids show if he died but idk
HeiwaTori
2021-07-10 10:59:18 +0000 UTCHe died... A long time ago.... In a galaxy far, far away
OutlawStar
2021-07-10 09:28:53 +0000 UTCHe got shot in the head goddammit!
2021-07-10 07:34:07 +0000 UTCI think it was as a few people have said he has been arrested for conspiracy and will be charged for sedition.
2021-07-10 07:02:52 +0000 UTCI think he is dead, in my mind i believe they said attempt assassination, it's because there were witnesses that saw Cham never fired, so he must be charged with attempt and say that the shot was actually fired by an accomplice of Cham.
2021-07-10 02:03:33 +0000 UTCI'm going with him dead because Star Wars loves to disregard the books' canonicity wantonly. If it doesn't happen in a movie or show but exists in some other New Star Wars media, then it seems that the canon status is "it happened unless a movie or show says it didn't."
Artemis LA
2021-07-10 01:14:52 +0000 UTCEven disregarding Orn Free Taa being alive later in canon, the rifle Crosshair uses looks quite different to the one he used to shoot the ship down. If he was aiming to kill him, I don't see why he would have swapped rifles (or removed an attachment - apart from the muzzle, I couldn't see it clearly enough to tell if it looked the same).
Michael McCurran
2021-07-10 00:30:46 +0000 UTCDarth Maul was cut in half. Fennec Shand got her guts shot out. "Attempted murder" seals the deal for me - alive.
2021-07-09 23:35:03 +0000 UTCThe shot seemed to hit the base of his Lekku. As we also know, blaster bolts don’t necessarily tear through someone like a bullet would, and the bolt could also be of a lower lethality
Daisy Grace
2021-07-09 23:24:44 +0000 UTCHe has beskar under his skin! That’s why he’s so fat.
Gavin Hardiman
2021-07-09 23:03:53 +0000 UTCAs far as his relevance in this story, he is dead. But we already know he survived at least 5 more years in other canon stories. I highly doubt we will see that however, as I think the story group wants to imply his death to non book readers, while giving some way for people who KNOW he lived, to not question if this contradicts canon. Hence why he said "attempted".
Melody Dia
2021-07-09 22:36:29 +0000 UTCIt would be kind of hard to fake that I think
2021-07-09 22:28:36 +0000 UTCWell, it is canon that he is alive 5 years later, so there is really no question. But honestly it doesn't matter because for the sake of TBB's story, he's as good as dead, but for the people who are aware of his future story, they can believe he survived and everybody should be happy :)
Adam A
2021-07-09 21:56:48 +0000 UTCA member of the story group recently said that they might retcon details they will always respect the overall canon. For example Depa Billaba was killed on kaller during order 66. That is the canon part of the story. If she died the way the kanan comics say or the version of the bad batch that doesnt really matter to the story group.
Delorian
2021-07-09 21:50:50 +0000 UTCThis poll feels like a question Crosshairs would ask just to miss with his fans. Did he kill him or didn't he?
Joel
2021-07-09 21:33:34 +0000 UTCRampart says attempted - it will lend to Taa's political arsenal, and lets face it... it's Crosshair. If he wanted him alive, he's alive.
Coeus
2021-07-09 21:27:21 +0000 UTCThey said "attempted" so I'm going with that Crosshair purposely aimed to put Taa in critical condition but not kill him. Taa could still be useful to the empire
Jeanette C
2021-07-09 21:26:10 +0000 UTCHe has to be alive per canon.
Darth Kal-El (Cory Weston)
2021-07-09 21:20:06 +0000 UTCHe’s still on Ryloth 5 years later. So he has to be alive.
Darth Kal-El (Cory Weston)
2021-07-09 21:11:40 +0000 UTCHe's not dead, given that he appears in the Lords of the Sith canon novel which occurs 14 BBY (5 years later). Rampart says it was attempted assassination, so in conclusion: GREAT SHOT CROSSHAIR THAT WAS ONE IN A MILLION!!!!!
2021-07-09 21:11:19 +0000 UTCThe changes made to canon have never been this big. They have all been small and can work with established canon. This cannot.
Darth Kal-El (Cory Weston)
2021-07-09 21:11:13 +0000 UTCThe changes they have made are small and still work within the established canon. This would not.
Darth Kal-El (Cory Weston)
2021-07-09 21:10:30 +0000 UTCHe’s alive 5 years later in the timeline. They said attempted because he’s still alive.
Darth Kal-El (Cory Weston)
2021-07-09 21:10:00 +0000 UTCHe had to of. Or it completely breaks the established canon. Yes have made some changes to canon. But those changes have been microscopically small compared to this. Hes established as being alive 5 years after ROTS. So unless they want to break canon and follow George Lucas’s mantra of “continuity is for wimps” he has to be alive.
Darth Kal-El (Cory Weston)
2021-07-09 21:04:18 +0000 UTCAm I the only one who saw Taa’s hand moving while he was being taken away?
Jon Mercano
2021-07-09 21:03:27 +0000 UTCHe’s alive 5 years after Revenge of the Sith according to canon.
Darth Kal-El (Cory Weston)
2021-07-09 21:02:03 +0000 UTCBingo
Sharrod Wolf
2021-07-09 20:59:38 +0000 UTCCanonically he’s still alive 5 years later. Crosshairs did shot him but he didn’t shot to kill. Just injury so they can spread the lie Cham attempted to assassinate.
Darth Kal-El (Cory Weston)
2021-07-09 20:58:14 +0000 UTCHe cannot be dead. If he is dead it breaks the canon as he is live 5 years later in Lords of the Sith
Darth Kal-El (Cory Weston)
2021-07-09 20:56:27 +0000 UTCHe can’t be dead. It breaks canon. He’s alive 5 years later.
Darth Kal-El (Cory Weston)
2021-07-09 20:55:54 +0000 UTCAlso he’s alive during Lords of the Sith which is canon.
Darth Kal-El (Cory Weston)
2021-07-09 20:55:35 +0000 UTCUnless they are following George Lucas’ ‘ mantra that “continuity is for wimps” canonically we already know he survived. He is alive during the events of the canon novel Lords of the Sith which takes place 5 years after Revenge of the Sith and again is canon. And they didn’t say “arrest for the assassination of” they specifically carefully and purposefully said “arrested for the attempted assassination of” that word attempted is important and goes to show he is still alive. So he’s alive. Also he’s still moving. Yes they have made some small changes to canon but nothing so drastic where it would literally break the canon. The changes made to order 66 with Kanan and Ashoka’s dual with Maul during the Siege of Mandalore do not break established canon. Having Orn Free die here literally breaks the canon in half. So he cannot be dead.
Darth Kal-El (Cory Weston)
2021-07-09 20:55:13 +0000 UTCThe fact they said attempted assassination makes me think Alive especially if anyone could shoot someone in the head and am have them still live it would be crosshair
Prince of Za Waurdo Over Salmon
2021-07-09 20:46:51 +0000 UTCHe’s in the canon novel Lords of the Sith and that takes place 5 years after Revenge of the Sith. I’m going to assume he survived but this show isn’t a stranger to playing around with canon, so who knows
2021-07-09 20:45:35 +0000 UTCEven though they said attempted, I still think he's dead, although we've had more gruesome deaths in the star wars galaxy, so who knows, very unpredictable
2021-07-09 20:22:51 +0000 UTCHe’s dead but they say attempted so the empire can act and say he’s authorised everything they do and they say the public can never actually see him as he’s wounded in hospital or in a coma
2021-07-09 20:05:58 +0000 UTCIf I had to guess, they set up Orn Free Taa and will have either faked his death, or had Crosshair shoot with a low-powered bolt. Plus he's so fat, god knows he's got plenty of protection. Also, we see him moving around and on the stretcher afterwards, so I'm going to say injured and very pissed off about being used like this.
FaultyHammock
2021-07-09 19:37:46 +0000 UTC"Hauser" is the name of Arnold's "real" character in Total Recall. Based on *just* that, I'm predicting that Howzer is a sleeper agent meant to find and betray any clones that are immune to the chip. I have no evidence to support this.
Liesmith
2021-07-09 19:13:18 +0000 UTCI say alive and the empire faked his dead to prevent any rebellion attempt
spencer
2021-07-09 19:02:58 +0000 UTCIt was Crosshair who fired and we know he's really accurate. Maybe he shot him in just the right spot as not to kill him.
ElBilbo
2021-07-09 18:53:48 +0000 UTCHe has to be alive because he is in the canon Lords of The Sith Novel. Also they charged Cham with attempted assassination which implies he isn't dead.
Cameron Rickard
2021-07-09 18:49:23 +0000 UTCI think he’s alive Rampart did say “attempted assassination” and in canon he’s supposed to stay alive for a couple more years although they could change canon again and move his death up
Christian Bolda
2021-07-09 18:48:55 +0000 UTCBro got domed but what do I know.
Dr. Bobcat
2021-07-09 18:46:40 +0000 UTCOrn Free Taa will likely be wheeled off to some Imperial facility, recover, fed a lie that Cham Syndulla tried to kill him, and then he'll show up again in a few years in Lords of the Sith. Can't wait for the Star Wars podcast to start up so you guys can be in on discussions like this at the time
IrishNexus
2021-07-09 18:43:22 +0000 UTCI know they've played fast and loose with details from "canon" material but him being dead is a big change. Plus it's implied Bane survived a headshot so Taa surviving a headshot from Crosshair (who may have had orders to wound heavily but not kill) wouldn't be that surprising. All that fat made for ample cushioning.
Collecter343
2021-07-09 18:39:43 +0000 UTCI think they said attempted because it wasn't him who killed him, but another shooter that they are yet to "capture". And they can use that excuse to hunt down anyone they find suspicious.
Yil
2021-07-09 18:25:02 +0000 UTCLike Trench, he was stroking his coils way too much. Sooo like Trench, he might survive way too much.
2021-07-09 18:24:42 +0000 UTCGiven that he is still around in the Lords of the Sith novel, I am inclined to say he is alive. How he would have managed to endure and get back into the Empire's good graces however, is another question.
Diego
2021-07-09 18:24:39 +0000 UTCWhat are you talking about? it looked like it hit him right in the middle of the head. To be grazed it would've looked more like a cut than a circular shape in the middle.
Yil
2021-07-09 18:23:47 +0000 UTCHe’s alive, they say it was attempted assassination and if you look he appears to still be moving. He also actually appears in some books further in the timeline. I like to think he survived because he was just so fat.
Gavin Allerton
2021-07-09 18:22:34 +0000 UTCYou don’t get charged with an “attempted” crime if the act was completed. Plus, Crosshair’s too good of a shot. Surely, he knows exactly where to hit him so that it won’t be lethal. Taa’s alive but out of the picture, for now at least.
Jordan Malloy
2021-07-09 18:21:43 +0000 UTCCrosshair definitely didn’t miss and i didn’t see Senator Taa leaving with the convoy
Andrew Doucette
2021-07-09 18:21:37 +0000 UTClooked like he got beamed in the skull but who knows it’s star wars
2021-07-09 18:21:18 +0000 UTCCanonically, he survives until at least 5 years after Revenge of The Sith. We’ve had some more minor retcons but I don’t think they would retcon a death.
Bryan Ayuso
2021-07-09 18:20:59 +0000 UTC"Attempted" is the key word, looked like the shot crazed him.
Sam K
2021-07-09 18:19:51 +0000 UTC