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Which Fate Series Should We Do? - Poll!

Choose between these two options to help us decide where in the complicated fate series to start!

Confused? Watch this video for more context:  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtIa7Pg_pes 

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Guys we can’t forget that after Zero we will have to win another poll for Blind Wave to react to UBW, so we must band together like the real life Knights of the Round Table and fight for a Fate continuation. STAND CHAMPIONS WE MUST SHOW OUR MIGHT NOW MORE THAN EVER BEFORE BROTHERS IN ARMS, STAND WITH ME!!!

Alex

I disagree, the VN is the best way to jump into Fate, but if you're not going to go with the VN then Zero is the next best you can do.

Riku1186

UBW also takes place after Zero and is basically a sequel, so it wouldn't make any sense to watch it first.

Oblivion'sLegend

It's replacing Stein's Gate. So probably Tuesday.

Username

When will they start reacting to this

Dracolord 6

r/wooosh

Ishtarin

Same. For a second there, I was worried they'd be starting with UBW. Don't get me wrong, UBW is great, but it's definitely my least favourite of the two, and I personally believe that Zero is the best jumping-on point for Fate as a whole.

Dalec Al

Seriously? You think Medusa, who literally didn't get a single spoken line in the entirety of UBW, is a better character than best boi Iskandar? Are you high?

Dalec Al

Counterpoint: While it is true that Zero is a prequel to SN, when Ufotable made UBW, they approached it with the assumption that the audience had seen Zero, and so they included a lot of stuff that doesn't make sense if you haven't seen Zero already. Things like Saber's summoning, the connection between Rin, Kirei, and Gil, the relevance of Shirou's last name, and Shirou's connection to Illya will go completely over their heads if they start with UBW.

Dalec Al

Oh sorry I forgot I always knew him/her by that name blame the game

Ishtarin

Yeah, I always tell people to just ignore any worried about spoilers, and just start with zero if they prefer seinen or ubw if they prefer shounen.

normalmighty

Dude. Servant identities are spoilers. One of the character identities you just listed is a major reveal in the last episode of zero.

normalmighty

It's just such a shame that the first 10 minutes of zero spoils one of the biggest reveals of the third route of stay night.

normalmighty

He's correct even if it's analogy was wrong. It's more like saying the original star wars trilogy spoils the prequel trilogy

normalmighty

Crispin mother fucking Freeman, Mathew mother fucking Mercer, Jamieson mother fucking Price, Liam mother fucking O'Brian, Kyle mother fucking Herbert, Jonney Young mother fucking Bosch, Patrick mother fu, you get it. Patrick Seitz, Wendee Lee, Michelle Ruff, Kari Walhgreen. Its a star studded cast of the biggest VAs in Cali. Only downside is that in UBW some of those actors who played roles in the old fate can't return to their roles since they are now new characters. Ie. Liam O'brian was Archer in fate/stay night. But since he was Kariya is Zero he couldn't be Archer in UBW. And I would also admit the UBW dub isn't as good as Zero's from an overall quality stand point.

I just took a dump

Votes in poll, sees results " Oh Thank GOD"

I just took a dump

The English dub for Zero is really solid. Might not be as good as the Japanese but not bad at all!

Leo Saz

My two cents coming from a person who read the VN first and then watched the series with friends who have no knowledge and started with Zero, if they watch UBW first it will spoil Zero because they will roughly know the final outcome of Zero and thus how things will progress, as well as what happens to some characters in Zero. If they watch Zero first, it spoils the "mystery/surprise" behind some characters. Frankly, they are all mild spoilers and do not take away much of the enjoyment either way - my friends still enjoyed the heck out of UBW and HF. I might go so far to recommend Zero first because it does a better job at setting up new viewers to the lore and system of the series, as well as being an all-round great installment. The reveal of the core mystery/conflict in UBW is not spoiled and the "spoiler" for HF is mild because there is so much more in terms of appeal to HF. If Blindwave doesnt follow up to the Fate series, then watching Zero alone is a better idea. If they follow up, Zero wont take away much of the enjoyment from UBW or HF. My friends shared it even elevates the experience because you know the ""backstory weight" of certain characters. Either way, glad that they're reacting to this!

warui warui

It's not that you're "missing" key information. It's deliberately made that way so the reader/viewer can think a little further to try and unravel the mysteries. For that reason there's no mystery on Zero, because it assumes all the plot points are already cleared.

kotelo

06 stay night isn't as fancy as ufotable's adaptations, but it's worth the watch if you want to get into the series. The correct order would be Fate/stay night (06) -> Fate/stay night UBW (14) -> Fate/stay night Heaven's Feel (17).

kotelo

sadly they will be doing dub for this show but it is what it is atleasy theyre starting it

rarewaifu

Im pretty sure that if they watch fate/zero they will want to watch fate/stay night

rYenis

UBW servents are better then zero Hercules is better than berserker cu is better then diarmuid medea is better than rais archer is better than gilgamesh Medusa is better than Alexander like I mean waver sucks compared to Shiniji and saber is better than saber the only servent that zero that UBW does not is hundred persona and we can't forget Grail-kun is best girl

Ishtarin

They will see ep1, and while it is a meme nowadays, I think the bois are gonna apreciate the genius efficency of ep1. Its a great start all things considered

k.lam

The Zero anime is not a prequel though. Stop fusing VNs, novels and anime into some horrid Frankenstein monster. Adaptations can change things and orders. Just look at the LotR and Hobbit movies. The Hobbit movies are a prequel to LotR. Unlike the books. Hence why they added stuff to The Hobbit movies that you would only understand if you watched LotR first. That's why Ufotable added stuff to UBW that you'd only get if you watched Zero first. Also for those smart people always bringing up Star Wars. 1. It's not accurate because as an adaptation Zero came out first. Unlike the PT. 2. The OT didn't literally spell out the entire events of the PT.

Ryoma Nagare

@Scott Riley Adrueno it's not about being "elitist". It's not about liking Zero or stay night better, it's about getting into the franchise "properly". If they said they wanted to start with Fate/Apocrypha, show that I worked on (subtitles), I would say exactly the same. I would say the same if they wanted to start with Fate/Grand Order too. It's about being objective with the knowledge I have about the franchise as a whole, and if I can share this knowledge I've been building up for over 10 years, I'd gladly do it. Definitely not about "tastes", that would be simplistic.

kotelo

@kotelo where are you pulling this from its wayyy more common for the main to spoil the prequel by any number of means

Lane Phillips

First of all, there is no such thing as ''keeping the Ufotable anime adaptations seperate''. This is something you just made up on your mind. Ufotable follows the Zero novel outline, and they then adapt it. They anime they create are still a part of a franchise. Even so, you can technically watch only the Ufotable adaptations, but that doesn't change the fact that you will miss the chance to get everything this franchise offers to you. Now, don't get me wrong. I can fully understand people not wanting to sink 3-4 days worth of time into a franchise just to get the full experience. Being an anime-only is completely fine. As I expressed earlier, I support watching Fate/Zero first (as of now) in that kind of scenerio. But we, as VN readers, want people to enjoy this series to its full capacity. I can't just turn a blind eye to someone who makes wrong arguments like ''Just start with Zero'' or ''Since Zero was 10 years later you need to start with it first''. for the sake of not making things complicated and it is not even complicated to begin with. You wanna read the VN ? Go ahead. You wanna be an anime-only? Go start with either Zero and make your way up to the FSN, or start with the edited Deen version and make your way up to the Zero. Choice just depends on your tolerance level to the outdated animation. Also I was talking about the people in the comments. I know BW will not react VN. + I wrote and posted this comment 2 days ago but somehow it got deleted after I posted it. Sorry for the late reply.

Kozis

^ This. Learn to separate the anime and VN people!

Scott Riley Adrueno

Finally somebody with common sense. Some people can't seem to separate the VN from the anime and how they differ in world building. I agree watching Zero first with the intent of playing the VN would ruin the experience yes, but the anime series is different. Zero as a standalone works better than UBW on every possible points. I don't even understand how people can argue on this.

Scott Riley Adrueno

I get it now from your numerous comments. You're one of those elitist Fate series fans who just can't accept Zero as being a better story than the mainline Stay Night. The anime series is different from the VN, okay? There's a reason why Zero was released first, and then UBW and HF. Don't confuse them with how the original VN worked.

Scott Riley Adrueno

Fate Zero actually goes to great lengths in explaining how the Holy Grail War works. I don't even understand your point. Gen Urobochi penned Zero pretty much to be a standalone series on to itself, with a great setup for UBW at the end at that. The VN is different from the anime. I think that is where you are most confused.

Scott Riley Adrueno

I sure do hope you figured out what's ironic with your statement by this time.

Scott Riley Adrueno

@kingant100 . Exactly. To be honest, I might not even watch their reactions if they start with Zero. It will kill all shock value for Fate/stay night, and they would watch it with a "different" mindset, expecting stuff from Zero to happend in stay night.

kotelo

There's NO way UBW spoils Zero, it's like saying Shrek 3 spoils Shrek 1. Nonsense.

kotelo

It's IMPOSSIBLE for the main work to spoil a prequel, which is a sequel in literary terms.

kotelo

@Ryoma Nagare "Okay. Tell me. If they watched the Star Wars original trilogy first, what could they discuss about the prequels later on down the line?" That's basically what you said.

kotelo

@Tristan Harley There are no carrying motives from Zero that have a huge impact on UBW.

kotelo

@Nick R It's impossible for the main work to spoil the prequel, which is by a literary point of view, a sequel. It's like watching Shrek 3 and say "nah bro don't watch Shrek 1, it will spoil Shrek 3 for you".

kotelo

The answer is sort of easy, but it must be well fundamented: Would you rather watch Star Wars starting with the original trilogy or with the prequels? I have two arguments for starting with Fate/stay night, and I don't want to make me sound important, but I have read both sources, and also fansubbed some "Fate" series in the past. -First argument: Fate/stay night is a mystery series. As you may known, Fate/stay night is originally a Visual Novel (like Steins;Gate), and these stories benefit from unraveling key plot point through the story. F/SN has three routes: Fate, Unlimited Blade Works and Heaven's Feel. The three routes must be played in that order, and mysteries from "Fate" can be resolved in "UBW" and the same applies for Heaven's Feel. If you start first with Fate/Zero, many KEY plot points would be laid out as a matter of course, because Zero assumes you already watched/read F/SN. -Second argument: Fate/Zero is a prequel. From a literary point of view, prequels ARE sequels because they're based from another established and existing work. Much like Star Wars, prequels add to the existing work, and their biggest appeal is to know how things happened for the main story to be as it is. If you start first with Zero, you will thematically kill Fate/stay night before it even starts. Because Zero spoils key plot points for Fate/stay night, but the reverse doesn't happen. As a conclusion, I can say that by starting with Zero, Fate/stay night will lose its shock value. Because the "mysteries" of the mystery series will be lost (the prequel assumes you already know stuff), and because Fate/stay night lays the foundations lore-wise for every other "Fate" series out there. As Zero assumes you already know stuff, it won't explain everything in detail like Fate/stay night does.

kotelo

Most english dubs these days are very good.

TbcAlex

Indeed I am home. We are Legion.

GollyJunior

You're here because we are a family son. We all suckle on Erics sweet tender teet. We all nibble the course hairs of Calvins beard. We all moan along with Erin. We all feel Ricks firm grip. We all call Shane 'Daddy'.

Tristan Harley

Consider that the themes of Unlimited Blade Works sort of require knowledge of what happened in Zero to really hit home. Certain character arc climaxes only make sense in the context of Zero.

Tristan Harley

Yeah, but considering there’s no real adaptation to the Fate route (I’m not counting the 06 anime, the only thing that has in common with the Fate route is that Saber is the love interest, the entire story is completely different) so UBW is the best next thing.

Tomas Aguirre

UBW is the second story tho...

Jonathan Cruz

But the problem with Zero is that it's not really an intro to the series. Its explains everything in the span of 48 min and expects you to know the rest from 06 anime. Plus Zero is a Prequel and was made after the actual Stay Night story.

Jonathan Cruz

No matter what you think of 2006 version, it's important to watch due to the character development and world building. The other shows rely on Deen/Stay night, hence why they haven't done or didn't do a Fate route remake. For me tho, I say let them watch Zero, if they like it they should move on to 2006 version then UBW. If they dont like Zero, i doubt they'll like UBW.

Jonathan Cruz

I abstain! I have seen neither so will watch along with BW. Why am I here then? I don’t know.

GollyJunior

Oof. That's unfortunate, but still a good show i guess!

warui warui

Watching Zero since it takes place 1st just makes sense and I have full confidence that Fate can win another poll.

xReaper205

The 2006 adaptation is pretty bad in animation and direction quality. Definitely can skip. The original fate/stay night was a visual novel with three routes (Fate, Unlimited Blade Works, Heavens Feel) with three different endings and 3 different female protagonists. 2006 adaptation tried to somehow merge all 3 routes which ended up being messy and poor. UBW TV-series adaptation follows the UBW route and is fairly good. Heavens Feel has a three-part movie adaptation (final part coming out this year). While Fate Zero is a prequel to the events of Fate/Stay Night, the original material for Zero was released after the original Fate/Stay Night visual novel so some of the mysteries and plot twists that were intended for all routes in Fate Stay Night will be spoiled if one choose to experience Zero first. That being said, Zero's anime adaptation is much stronger than UBW's adaptation, so yeah it's up to the viewer to pick their poison.

warui warui

They only react to dubs

Nathan Armitage

Noob question very new to their channel: will this be in English dub or sub? Sub is really great because the Japanese VAs bring a lot of character to the various characters

warui warui

UBW spoils Zero and vice versa. Zero is a better show by a long shot. Do we really have to argue with this?

Scott Riley Adrueno

wait really? well damn i wish ubw won then

Sebastian Ramirez

I watched Zero first, then UBW

Kenneth McDermott

i dont care about the mild spoliers they have for each other, zero is just a better show for reactions then ubw imo

Nico Brunmaer

Zero, easy choice. Sooooo nuch better than UBW

Dale Tucker

Don't mind which one wins first since both series spoil each other. Zero is the better show anyways

NyQuil

When it comes to Zero vs UBW they both spoil each other, there is no winner. Might as well just watch it chronologically.

Nick R

Don't watch any Stay Night anime if you want to go into Zero without knowing how everything will end and the fate of every major character.

Ryoma Nagare

...spoliers

Antonio Zacarias

Okay. Tell me. If they watched UBW first, what could they discuss about Zero later on down the line?

Ryoma Nagare

Looks like zero is gonna win which is disappointing. Not because it's a bad show but because it's a prequel it takes away some of the mystery the guys would discuss about in UBW. It's like playing KH 358/2 Days before KH2. Yeah chronologically it happens first but it takes away plot twist you would have enjoyed had you done it the other way. Tbh though I'm more of a start from the horrible Fate Stay Night show cause...release order lol.

kingant100 .

Everybody hates on the 06 anime, and while it’s definitely not as good as the others, I don’t think it’s terrible, especially if you watch it first. It’s NOT like FMA/FMAB - 06 F/S Night is the actual intended “starting place” for people watching the series, everybody just skips over it because they don’t like it. F/SN, UBW, and Heaven’s Feel are three retellings of the same story with different characters, choices, and outcomes, like 3 playthroughs of a video game. In the actual game, the route order is F/SN -> UBW -> Heaven’s Feel. Fate/Zero is a universal prequel to all of these stories, but should definitely be watched before UBW and Heaven’s Feel. Some people say to start with Zero, but I think 06 F/SN does the best job introducing the world in a way that’s understandable.

Korrok

yeah but UBW assumes you read the VN and doesn't explain everything unlike Zero where they made it like an entry level to the series. Anyone can follow it .

Khaled Almalki

Hi, just wanted to tell guys about Dr. Stone, again!! Please react to it!! Someone get their attention to this anime so that at least it gets on a poll!!

SIRAJIS SALEKIN

Reminder, they wont watch both. Fate needs to win 2 polls back to back, which can be done but isnt guranteed

k.lam

Totally agree with you. To watch Zero first is like to be told "Zeke and Eren are brothers" from the S3 start.

LENC230

You said what I want to say. I always want to forget the memories of SN and ZERO, than watch them by the UBW-HF-ZERO order. Depending on you have watched HF or not, the feeling of the last scene of ZERO would be totally different.

LENC230

zero is a prequel thats the only reason you should watch ubw first

Vexus

Zero hype!

Vincent Baker

ZERO ZERO ZERO ZERO

Royce Philip Beloy

*stares at the poll* Yeah, sure. "Dispute".

Ryoma Nagare

I started watching Unlimited Bladeworks because a friend told me. Yes, its basically the sequel to Zero, but if you start UBW, the story telling is like Attack on Titan. By that I mean, you are missing the key information, but when you get it, it makes so much sense.

ChrizzPlayzz

well i mean because it is, the dispute has been going on for over a decade now you will always find it in threads lol

rarewaifu

its a different route (its the first) while UBW is the second, heavens feel the third, what makes it bad is is that they try to combine elements from the other 2 routes and fail miserably in doing so

rarewaifu

Not only would UBW spoil the plot twist of zero... it also basically gives away exactly what happens in the ending of zero. Meanwhile, zero makes the one plot twist in ubw to be unsurprising but not spoiled on how it ends. Zero is better to watch first to be the least spoiled overall watching the two.

Tailzz

hey as long as they are both made by ufotable you can watch them both. Dean/stay night doesnt have a good rep by anime watchers. Fate/zero and UBW are both good but I prefer UBW, just because I think it will play in nicely after steins;gate, also personal bias ofc.

Shad Ow

Yeah the 06 anime is atrocious. Feel free to skip it.

Ryoma Nagare

Fate Zero is like a prequel of the fate series; it’s a different story, so yes, not the same ending lol

Medunuuu

They’re both really good. Fate Zero is like a prequel to UBW, the stories are connected, but you don’t have to watch one to understand the other

Medunuuu

It's been a while since i watched the 2006 Fate/Stay Night anime but the difference between that and UBW is that the quality of animation is not as good as UBW and it had ( i think) a slightly different ending (or route) than UBW. In my opinion, i would skip the 06 series and watch UBW instead. Hardcore Fate fans, please correct me if i'm wrong lol

technojack92

I’ve been planning on watching the Fate series for sometime now. I need a little help when with the continuity. When it comes to the 06 F/S Night and UBW, is it a similar situation to FMA & FMAB? I heard the 06 series wasn’t really good, so I can just skip it, right?

Bejo

Okay, this is getting kinda ridiculous. We have a poll with over 4200 participants (at time of posting) and about 3400 want Zero over UBW. We only have 370 comments right now. And people act like it's a hotly debated topic among entrenched fan camps whereas the large majority want Zero and a few people are mad their favorite show didn't win and are posting comments with some harebrained reasoning why Zero shouldn't be watched first.

Ryoma Nagare

Please one day do the Toaru series or A Certain Magical Index/A Certain Scientific Railgun/A Certain Scientific Accelerator.

Game Thrower

Not really though (concerning plot twists). If you're talking about the grail then that works both ways. If they know about it from UBW first then it's no longer a surprise in Zero.

Ryoma Nagare

Watch them both

At the bottom of my heart i would LOVE for them to experience Fate with FSN (main series) and then Zero (prequel) as thats how it was intended, however due to the nature of Ufotable animating Zero first than UBW/HF they should start there as a anime only not to mention its the BETTER anime adaptation tbh as shirou suffers from bare inner dialogue compared to his VN counterpart, story wise with the 3 routes FSN takes the cake 100% but anime adaptation wise Zero takes it the Studio Deen adaptations were handled poorly despite having some of the best OST of them all, they tried meshing all 3 routes into one towards the end yuck

rarewaifu

JUST DO IT TIMER BASED, COPYRIGHT WILL GET YOU OTHERWISE

k.lam

Lol, it doesn't really matter what you should watch first cause it will be confusing as hell anyways, the only way to get everything is to read the visual novel otherwise, prepare to go online and search for a bunch of important stuff that the show doesn't address.

Hồ Giang

I've had a few friends (one of which was an irl friend) and plenty of others that ditched the series because of the back and forth online about what to watch first. A lot of people pressured them to "just play the VN, it's better". After all that they either weren't interested and decided they just wouldn't watch any of it or temporarily set the series aside again and watched something else.

ZeroRequiem

Yeah, Fate Zero is definitely what they're going to be reacting to first... I'm really looking forward to it :D Hopefully the poll for the next anime after that will be UBW.

ZeroRequiem

I'm glad they didn't provide the 06 option, Zero would still have won but votes would've gone to waste on 06 Fate. 06 Fate IF it gets watched should always be last because Studio Deen did a terrible job adapting it and it doesn't help that the animation for it is Ancient.

ZeroRequiem

In the case of Fate, I'd argue that the minority are those involved in the VN and the anime itself has had more viewers globally although I can't say for certain. The anime adaptations have their own watch order (release dates) just as the VN has it's own order; they're separate productions and one shouldn't effect the watch order of the other. Those that really love the series after watching the anime will move onto the VN and those that love it but don't care for the VN will skip over it being content with their experience regardless.

ZeroRequiem

Not knowing who the "good guys" and "bad guys" were, was what I loved most about Zero, and its one of the reasons I recommend Zero before UBW, because UBW kind of gives you a good and bad guy to root for/against. I loved not trusting anyone, even the "good guy" I was super suspicious of the whole time, cause I didn't know he was the "good guy" he was just 1 more player in this amazing chess match.

Woodsie89

I cant wait to finally start this series, myself. Them reacting to it -is going to help me stay in tuned.

Laugh Data

Did we even needed this poll? Its obvious the older one has to be watched first.

Quinton Teratino

Of course it's not. UBW literally has 2 climax scenes that was dependent on Zero. Adaptation =/= source.

Coco XLarge

I cant believe this is happening!!! Fate Zero is such an amazing show!!! Glad we will likely start at the chronological beginning

Jordan Feeg

The 2006 adaptation is really not good, and even if they had put, everyone would still vote for the other two.

Suza

If only we had more like you man. People seem so oblivious to why this makes fate as infamous as it is, it doesn't have to be, though too late for it to not deserve that reputation.

LordGrimhilt

react to BLEACH !!!!!

Samrat Thapa

I am just grateful that we're finally at this point and are welcoming these guys to the Fate universe. This ridiculous debate tends to turn away people interested in the franchise more often than not. I'll be happy with whatever result we get from this poll. We all wind up in the same place in the end as fans despite which series we decide to start with.

Syclowave

I honestly think you should have put more then these two, because I would have said stay night 2006 first, zero second and then stay night unlimited blade work 2014 third. since you only put these two options I picked Zero.

LastHierarch

You're are using the airing release order as a reference but using the source material release order is not valid?

Gilberto Morfin

If you start with Zero you will get spoiled the biggest plot twist in the whole Fate/Stay Night story. People started with Zero because it was the only anime-option at the time, that has changed in the last 10 years.

Gilberto Morfin

ZERO!!!!!!!!!!!

miss_hopefulsnail

>mo dao zu shi avatar good taste

LAMPOON MAN

Thanks for sending them those blu-ray sets. As someone who also owns those sets and knows the struggle of getting them, it hurt me inside to see Aaron drop the F/Z sets. I agree with you about watching the 2006 series first but I think it's unrealistic. People voted for F/Z and I don't think there are many people who would want to wait months for them to go through the original series first. Since they're deciding between F/Z and UBW, I think watching F/Z first is probably the better order.

Dr. Longclaw

It's Zero to start. That's how it's aired, that's how it makes sense to watch it. Watching UBW first would be confusing as all hell, and would probably end up ruining your reaction to Zero. It's like having an annoying fanboy spoil half the series (while arguing that they didn't spoil anything) and continuously posting things like "I CAN'T WAIT FOR EPISODE XYZ". Anyone recommending you watch UBW first is also probably the type of person who also expects you to read through the entire visual novel as well. (Which is a pretty ridiculous expectation)

Bryce Nielsen

It's foolish to think they didn't consider FSN and UBW movie when they made Zero

Jeroz Avlesair

More of that TM doesn't see feasibility to redo the entirety of Fate route again. Also your argument falls since HF trilogy is happening as well.

Jeroz Avlesair

Hes seriously right on... all the sequels/prequels assume you watched fate/stay night original and they dont explain things well enough for them to be your first experience.......

Michael Brown

Fate/Zero pls

Jo

Reddit has a bad take again. What's new.

Coco XLarge

It's truly a weird one. I personally don't think Zero is the best place to start a journey into the Fate franchise (for me it was the last thing I watched after playing the VN and watching the other anime), but can understand people wanting them to do that given how great it is. But it's also a shame it spoils some stuff if they were to go into UBW or others after. I guess in some way it's kind of like deciding whether to have someone start Star Wars at Episode 4 or with the prequels, you could do it either way, one way spoils some stuff but it also still works, it's just different than what a majority would have experienced.

Mattman

If watching just the anime by ufotable which as of now BW will most likely be doing maybe even only 1 series. Then Zero comes first in the viewing order as "Producer Atsuhiro Iwakami proposed that an adaptation of the Unlimited Blade Works route would be a logical continuation to the events of Fate/Zero." If they were reading and watching everything then I would agree with watching zero after VN, deen version etc

Scott Townend

That's just reddit and it's a post created by a moderator for that reddit and his word isn't "official" by any means. I've seen other posts just like that before Heaven's Feel was ever announced that were "official" on reddit that had to be edited after Heaven's Feel part 1 came out; that post is no different and it's "official" status is exclusive to that reddit. Gotta go, I've got work.

ZeroRequiem

LOOK AT THIS!!! This is the official wiki for the Fate series watch order. https://www.reddit.com/r/fatestaynight/comments/df8rvo/rfatestaynights_official_viewing_order_guide_v2/. From what it says here I recommend watching UBW first. Also someone told me this and I thought this could help you guys -> Zero is a prequel written with the perspective that the reader/watcher already knows the story from the 3 routes. So it takes all the plot twists from these stories as known information to build the story up. Starting with it would greatly negatively impact your experience with the other animes.

yujinni

When you allow the VN to influence the anime's watch order all of this explodes and becomes over complicated. It should be as simple as watching the Ufotable anime adaptations in release order as intended; Blind Wave is not reacting to the VN and the VN should not influence the order in which they watch the Ufotable anime adaptation. The poll is reflecting this edit: don't know what happened to the rest of my comment just now but it got wiped by accident: Those of you who are allowing the VN to dictate the watch order of the anime adaptations are over complicating it.... they are separate. I've seen friends and others on reddit and everywhere else completely ditch the Fate series out of frustration. It's not complicated if you keep Ufotables anime adaptation separate from the VN like you're supposed to, it's real simple... you guys are making it complicated. It's a shame that there are people that have walked away from the series because of it....

ZeroRequiem

Yes and then after much disagreement apparently about which route to do in the end they went with UBW "Producer Atsuhiro Iwakami proposed that an adaptation of the Unlimited Blade Works route would be a logical continuation to the events of Fate/Zero."

Scott Townend

They didn't intend to adapt UBW until a year or so after Zero is done airing. They intended Zero to be an one off "this thing hasn't been adapted yet so we'll do this" until TM came back and ask for more

Jeroz Avlesair

Yes and no. Your affinity isn't what triggered the deviation.

Jeroz Avlesair

Great start even though all those references will go right over your head

Jeroz Avlesair

No. The original intentional choice was FSN to UBW movie to Zero. They only remade UBW later after Zero was being well received

Jeroz Avlesair

It's the other way round in fact

Jeroz Avlesair

If UBW is adapted first those scenes will just be seen as they intended to be: dangling plotpoints that are used to enhance the current story and to open up opportunities for future explorations (i.e. Zero)

Jeroz Avlesair

@ZeroRequiem I disagree. People still can watch edited version of the Deen version and then they can follow up with the Ufotable's UBW HF and Zero if they really want to. They're not that seperate. I didn't mention it since it wouldn't work from the point of a reaction channel.

Kozis

Best girl Bazett <3

Ryoma Nagare

@Ryoma Nagare Because nobody knows about it unfortunately. I would personally rate it higher than Zero and FSN. It is a goldmine

Kozis

Saber's identity is completely irrelevant to the plot outside of the Fate route. The only plot relevant hidden identity in FSN is Archer and maybe our favorite Yandere.

Ryoma Nagare

I agree Fate Zero should be watched first but because of this reason in particular: The Ufotable anime adaptation and the VN are two separate entities, neither of them should control the watch order of the other. They are watching and reacting to the anime Not the VN; the Ufotable anime adaptations are intended to be watched in the order of release starting with FZ. 06 Fate was adapted by Studio Deen and not Ufotable; the poll is for Ufotable's adaptations and that's the bottom line :)

ZeroRequiem

I'm sad. Why are you ignoring Hollow Ataraxia in your initial route. ;_;

Ryoma Nagare

This is untrue, also a very minor part of enjoyment for any part of the series. A minigame like this shouldn't justify so adamantly one specific viewing order. The vote has the same intentions regardless, whatever is chosen is chosen because the majority believe it to be the best viewing experience for the crew. The intentions are the same.

LordGrimhilt

I honestly couldn't wait XD I saw both movies in theaters so far and I'm planning to watch the third when it finally comes to America.

Theory of Hope

Weather it would win the poll or not isn't the point. The point is what is the best viewing experience for the crew. For example, the original 2006 anime (FATE route) keeps the identity of certain characters a mystery for the viewers to think over & try to solve on their own. FATE/Zero on the other hand, just blatantly tells you the identities in the 1st or 2nd episode. So all that build up, anticipation & wonder is just....gone.

Atohiowas

dude, why the **** are you putting spoilers in your comment. What if any of them read it.

Thai

If you consider the VN's. The route would be Fate-->UBW-->HF-->Zero This is just a no-brainer. Do not recommend anyone to watch Zero first if they have interest in reading the VN. Zero should be watched after finishing the entirety of the FSN. It casually spoils so much impactful info in just 2 episodes that normally you'll never learn until the mid/late-HF, 40-50 hours into the VN btw. However, being an anime only changes things. The 2006 adaptation is completely garbage, as not only it mixes 3 routes, it also contains some anime original scenes that makes absolutely no sense considering its original intent was to adapt the Fate route. Plus the animation is just, bad. So, which entry point should someone take if they doesn't want to watch the 2006 series and also they doesn't want to read the VN? As much as I dislike it, my bet would be on Fate/Zero right now. It is a solid standalone anime even if you doesn't want to continue with other Fate works. But with UBW, you'll get 1/3 of the story. It will feel incomplete if you only watch the anime version and be done with it. Because some FSN characters shine in one route and they are literally nothing in the other routes. Although my opinion might change with the upcoming HF3 movie. UBW-->HF-->Zero would be a great alternative that way, even though you'll miss the world-building of the Fate route.

Kozis

I disagree. Don't really see why they have to suffer through 2006 deen version. I honestly don't see how it "ease" newcomers into fate. In fact, deen version doesn't make any sense later on. Better just skip it.

Thai

Zero all the way

David Andrés Ramírez

I haven't seen Heaven's Feel yet, I'm waiting for the third to release.... I can't wait <3 It's like the Monogatari movies, I waited until all 3 parts released before I watched those... it was great.

ZeroRequiem

Thank you for providing them the blu-rays! I definitely don't agree with watching 06 Fate before FZ though. IF they wound up having to watch 06 Fate first... I'd recommend at least a years break in between watching it and Fate Zero. I was lucky... I watched Deen's Fate in 2006 and then Fate Zero years later when it first aired.... by that time I had forgotten all of the spoilers between the two. I loved Saber's ending in 06 Fate but that adaptation is rough as hell...

ZeroRequiem

depending how the third one turns out I might choose Heaven's Feel trilogy

DFG3

Sadly no. In their YouTube video for this vote (time stamp 2:20 I believe) they said that whatever doesn't win this poll will have to win the next if we wish them to continue (just like Steins Gate 0 was in the poll after Steins Gate but lost to Fate)

Theory of Hope

Thought they were all romance routes, as in which your love interest you chose determined the route?

Harry Cannon

Agreed, tough decision I'd have to go with Zero personally, my taste with regards to it's story and how it ends just wouldn't allow me to go with anything else. I do love UBW's fight scenes though and all scenes involving Saber <3 she's the reason I've seen 06 Fate not once... but twice :D which is quite the feat LOL

ZeroRequiem

I could be wrong but I thought they said they were definitely watching both for this reaction. They just weren’t sure which one to start with.

Jared G

Look. The 2006 anime will never ever win a poll. UBW has been on the poll several times and never won because people wanted Zero. Now Zero was on the poll and behold Fate finally won. Guess what? Most people like Zero the best. Making the poll about Zero and then switching to the other shows (*shudders at the thought of DEEN Fate*) would be a betrayal to the people that voted on the main poll especially for Zero. I voted for Zero. Not anything else. It would be a bait and switch to do something else now. Would have voted for Gurren Lagann or Berserk if it wasn't for Zero.

Ryoma Nagare

Only one in the whole franchise? That's tough. I was honestly gonna pick Zero because it was the first I watched and has a special place in my heart. I was also hoping it would leave the door open for other adaptations to stay but I see that all others are erased other than the one I pick. Hmm... I think I would honestly pick UBW. While I absolutely love Zero, it doesn't have a definitive ending by itself unlike UBW. That's would have to be my choice.

Theory of Hope

Actually very glad I suddenly have the chance to thank you for that. Seriously. I salute you.

LordGrimhilt

either is good but I voted Zero first because I think you’ll be able to enjoy that series “as is” episode by episode. I watched the prequel second and I found myself constantly thinking how it linked to Stay/Night, instead of just enjoying it bit by bit.

Jared G

I do remember that mailbag and the message you put with it. Thanks so much for sending it, my wallet still feels the hole it took to get these Blu Rays so I feel that effort. I definitely don't agree with you, but hell if it wasn't for you we might never have gotten this far with these polls. This lovely fella made a big monetary sacrifice. But seriously man, surely we both know how chaotic this stuff has been and gets. This poll is the best way to settle it.

LordGrimhilt

Oh yeah for sure, Studio Clown didn't even try to help anime onlys. I still haven't seen the last season because I know it's gonna suck, and the ending to the manga wasn't that great either.

Jared Cooper

Yeah I can't argue against that, The vast majority just want to watch/react to the anime though and FZ is definitely the one to start with in regards to that.

ZeroRequiem

Guys, as the person who gave you those Blu-rays which Aaron unceremoniously dropped (See Mailbag 70), do not. I repeat DO NOT watch FATE/Zero before watching the original Fate/Stay Night 2006 version(which you have the Blu-Rays of). It would be like watching The Legend of Korra before watching Last Airbender. Can it be done? Yes, technically, but the series is very much an intermediate point plot/lore-wise. It, like Legend of Korra, acts like it's viewers have stepped into that world before and know how it works. And it heavily spoils several big plot points of the original series. Watch them in this order: FATE/Stay Night, FATE/Zero, FATE/Stay Night Unlimited Blade Works. The original series (although not as good as the other 2) does a FAR better job at easing newcomers into the FATE world. So please, start with the original first. This isn't going to be a popular opinion with a lot of people. Mostly because the quality of FATE/Zero & Unlimited Blade Works when compared to the original is like night & day but watching them in this order really will give you the best viewing experience.

Atohiowas

I'd like to see their reactions to some of the episodes in two of those series you listed but all of them are just so long I'd rather we just get to see their reactions to the shorter animes or currently airing animes like My Hero Academia.

ZeroRequiem

If you could only choose to keep one of the Fate anime adaptations in existence and the others would vaporize and be gone forever; which would you choose? :d Got me curious now Really looking forward to their Fate reactions now xD

ZeroRequiem

I mean...if we are only talking about the anime i'd also say that Zero is better just because it's a standalone story unlike UBW which is originally only 1/3 of the actual story of Fate/Stay Night. So imo Zero is better anime-wise while source material-wise UBW is better

Mello Parasite

The thing is: The ACTUAL beginning of the story was poorly adapted (F/SN 2006). Becasuse of that most people recommend the prequel which actually came later (Fate/Zero). Is it the best way to get into fate? No, the best way would be to read the novel so you can learn how it really all started. But then again, if you are just interested in watching anime i'd say Fate/zero is the way to go.

Mello Parasite

People keep yelling that Zero is so much better than UBW. Well I agree that Zero is written better, I think UBW had more hype and thrilling/action packed scenes. Honestly I love both equally in their own way. Just excited for you guys to get introduced to Fate!

Theory of Hope

well, Zero IS the first chronologically so I'd say start there.

KAOSKATSU

I'm sorry but I've never really understood that argument. While I know the visual novel goes in that order, Ufotable animated Zero, UBW, and Heavens Feel in that order for a reason. It all just flows naturally. Zero doesn't really feel like a prequel, it feels like the natural starting point for the series and the continuation in UBW. Also every reaction channel I've seen said they were glad they started with Zero over UBW.

Theory of Hope

... I hope you realize that that is the entire concept of a poll, right? People vote for what they'd like to watch. Hence why there are people who vote for different things. They're even nice enough to let you vote three times.

Ryoma Nagare

I'm aware, I still liked it more than everything that happened in the seasons after. You do realize how absolutely terrible the viewing experience is especially in the last Season for those that only watched the anime right? For the reactors that is likely all they will get out of a series; the anime adaptation.

ZeroRequiem

You are aware that season 2 of Tokyo Ghoul was the worst as far as adapting the source material because it basically went a completely different direction, right? They literally had to pretend like season 2 didn't happen when they adapted Re.

Jared Cooper

Please for the next anime poll don't have Gurren Lagann and Kill la Kill on the same poll... people split their votes between them

Hercule Pyro

UBW literally spoilers all the characters that survive Zero and the ending of Zero. And you have to get it through your head that the source material and the adaptation are entirely different. Ufotable made their adaptations with the intention to start with Zero hence why you have Zero cameos, references and music ques in the UBW and HF anime that weren't in the VN. The Zero novels also aren't canon to the visual novels. They're a what-if prequel at best. So that entire premise is also wrong. Also people don't enjoy UBW right after Zero because Zero is way better written. lol.

Ryoma Nagare

^SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS SPOILERS dude control yourself.... what the heck, I'm kind of new to patreon so I don't know if there are any mods but someone delete this if they can.... The poll is the deciding factor in what they watch and right now it's Fate Zero by a landslide and for good reason, what if one of the guys at Blindwave reads those spoilers.... Seriously, think of someone other than yourself; don't ruin the experience for the reactors.

ZeroRequiem

Fate = Romance route UBW = Hero route Heaven's Feel = Hero V2/ Horror route

Jonathan Cruz

Everyone has their own opinion when it comes to Fate. Personally the first thing I watched in the series was UBW and it is still my favourite anime to date. I liked zero and would love to see you guys react to it as you should see it before UBW (unlike I did). However I want to see you guys react to UBW so bad.

Matthew Ball

Remember guys, once they finish Zero and put another poll up with UBW in it, we'll need to band together and vote for that so they can finish their journey!

Theory of Hope

Please do hear me out and take a minute of your time then you will be convinced aswell as to why they should start with UBW and it's not about how good you think 1 is over the other. Did you watch Fantastic Beasts and then went into Harry Potter? did you read the Hobbit and then watched LoTR? Did you watch Prometeus then Alien? Did you watch Star Wars 1 2 3 then 4 5 6 or 4 5 6 and then 1 2 3? Yep you see where I'm getting at. The Fate franchise was originally released as a playable visual novel with 3 routes: Fate, UBW, and Heaven's feel. Now Fate sucks because Studio Deen made it terrible by changing plot and terrible animation so you skip that. You want to start with Ubw then Heaven's feel then Zero (then Ataraxia or Fate if they make them and remake Fate). Zero spoilers everything about Fate, UBW and Heaven's feel and that alone ruins UBW COMPLETELY !!! So many people told me that they did not enjoy UBW and that was ALWAYS because they already knew the Holy grail war was a facade in UBW and that some characters are already involved like Gilgamesh and the Priest or Sakura being a mage and not a powerless girl. I'm not gonna say more spoilers but you sure know what else it spoils. Watching UBW doesn't spoiler Zero by almost anything since we don't know much about Kiritsugu and the Einzbern. Watching Heaven's feel spoilers a little about Zero but nothing that makes it not worth anymore to watch. Then they could watch extra stuff like the Oath under snow movie but that's not important please reconsider your decision guys.

watashimusashi

Definitely Fate/Zero first. It is technically a prequel but it was animated first and it is a good introduction to the world and story. Plus Unlimited Blade Works uses scenes from Zero that would be confusing otherwise.

Theory of Hope

If we could get Bleach, Naruto, and One Piece going that would be amazing

Christopher D Peterson

I made an account just for this, lol. I love the Fate/Zero series and I love Blindwave!!! Time for my darlings to meet up and have a playdate.

Tessa Coldiron

They'd definitely have to skip the fillers, they're pretty bad; I wasn't a fan of the last canon arc that was adapted into anime either.

ZeroRequiem

I own Steins Gate on blu-ray but I will probably never own Steins Gate 0... it had it's moments for sure but it was made years after the original and just wasn't as good in my opinion. I feel it's best that Blindwave ends the SG series with the original (their last reaction video) and moves on to the next but I wouldn't be opposed to them finishing it either. As an example: If they ever react to Tokyo Ghoul I would never want them to go beyond the first two seasons just because of how bad the seasons after it were adapted.... really disappointing. The ending of season 2 is so satisfying and best left to their imaginations.

ZeroRequiem

2006 FSN is made by another studio and it's an amalgamate route that spoils HFs.

123

The poll is accurate... try not to confuse yourself, the Ufotable anime adaptation and the VN are separate entities; neither of them should influence the watch order of the other. With regards to the Ufotable anime adaptation you're obviously supposed to watch it in release order. Deen's 06 Fate doesn't count, it was not produced by the same studio plus that adaptation sucks. Besides.... with regards to the anime; Fate Zero has the better story anyway :D

ZeroRequiem

The bottom line is, it's meant to be seen in order of release. FSN&gt;Zero&gt;UBW&gt;etc. You guys only voted for Zero because it's the better show. Since 2006 FSN isn't an option, it's a mute point, anyways.

HIM

1. Zero is better than UBW 2. FSN Fate route has no proper anime, so watching UBW anime first doesn't replicate the VN experience anyway. 3. Zero came out first and ufotable arguably developed UBW as a proper sequel to Zero. 4. The spoilers go both ways As such, My vote goes to Fate/Zero

123

though i would love very much to see you react to the awesomeness that is in UBW i still want you guys to have the complete story, Zero is the beginning of the series and as many would expect things elaborated more in Zero, you still can watch UBW without a knowing about the existence of Zero but from watching the guys i think they might have questions found only in zero

Karam Abu Alhija

No i wouldn't start with DMC3 games but if they released a TVseries/book/anime adaptation of it and started with DMC3 story then i would watch that first. IF they adapted DMC first then did DMC3 as a prequel i would watch DMC first.

Scott Townend

Hint: There aren't any good guys.

Ryoma Nagare

Because steins gate 0 is not good.

Fate Stay Night Makes the most since to STart because plot is easiest to fallow. Then do a poll for the others. I still think Steinsgate 0 shouldnt need a poll and im more suprised the fandom didnt want to finish the Steinsgate story.

Skeletor

Can you calm down? Sheesh go read a book or something.

Kaleo Mungin

Literally, same. It's such a perfect anime and almost no one reacts to it so when I saw this in my subscription box I was floored.

Rahneian Madsgs

nah i can see i voted for zero actually, i'm using vpn to vote and replly right now

jhindox

I mean, you’re allowed to be wrong. But in my opinion the story should be watched in the order the creators intended. As in Fate Stay/Night first, and then Zero as a prequel, and since UBW is the first real adaptation of the Stay/Night story, it should go first, but it won’t happen, since it’s pretty obvious Zero is going to win. I still love Fate/Zero, but I think it’s not the best way to get introduced to the franchise

Tomas Aguirre

I only watched a little bit of Fate/Zero 2011 version it was good just I was confused on which group was the good guys lol and then some of the lore I had to look up cause I didn't get certain parts

Narutoanime16

^agree 100% Also, YAY FZ!!!

ZeroRequiem

With these 2 series (alone ignoring all other material) Zero then UBW, as that how they were intended by the studio. They even added bits to UBW to refrence Zero. The comparison of Star Wars dosn't work as in the "Ufotableverse" Zero isnt a prequel, its the first series and UBW is the sequel to it.

Scott Townend

SI PUNK

Oh god I did not intend for this comment to pop out so LARGE.

LordGrimhilt

The Ufotable anime adaptations and the VN are separate entities, neither should influence the watch order of the other. For the Ufotable adaptation... Zero comes first :)

ZeroRequiem

I made a patreon account just for this, rather hoped that the time I would make an account would be the time I was able to donate to you guys. I also appreciate the public poll to give me this vote. Anyway this is quite a subject of course, a nightmarish one to boot, someone will be upset no matter what. I consume a lot of this franchise, but I don't think that should mean anything anyway. People talk about this stuff like there's an actual answer to it, get extremely adamant about things and I've seen it so many times by now and its tiresome and can get quite bad. It is an unfortunate universal constant about this series. In the end though, while I definitely have my preference and have made my vote, people over complicate this stuff this series is way more approachable than people think it is. Many instalments were made with accessibility in mind, being convoluted is just how the franchise is and if some instalments succeed or fail to be standalone or franchise entry pieces is often and simply subjective. With that exceedingly more important thing out the way, and feel free to ignore the rest of this personal opinion stuff. Fate/Zero I adore to a fault, I adored it so much I got into the rest of the franchise and perhaps regret it, I'm not much of a fan of the rest but a strong premise and a shared universe with Zero keeps me here, faulty investment. Not to be too harsh to the rest of it anyway, of course this is just me and I have already experienced flak for this anyway. Its a fun thing regardless, just don't stress over it. This thing has one of my absolute favourite dubs anyday, I'm always a dub sucker but damnit this cast and their performances are so bloody stellar. Course I realise I'm saying this here when this place is notorious already for its many sub advocates, but it can't hurt to have a rare vocal dub lover throw something out for once. I could say a lot more, but why pertain to anything in a show you are perhaps just about to watch? Or if the vote swings another way, then why wsay anything about a show you are perhaps EVENTUALLY going to get to? The vote will do its job, anything more than it is excessive and adds to the chaotic comments as is. Be well, and if the vote does go to Zero then I can't wait to watch it for the; I really don't know what number I'm on but perhaps 24th time. Hell even my mother loves this show, don't ask how that happened, cool moms exist and she's up there. Hell I think she likes other franchise instalments much more than I do.

LordGrimhilt

I would like to see that too but they wpuld be lost since its chronologicly after s1 and s2 so they should just watch the series and then the movie

Artherion

:)

ZeroRequiem

06 fate stay night wasn't even produced by the same studio.... 06 fate sucks except for the ending when it crescendo's. You watch the anime's in order of release with regards to the Ufotable adaptations exclusively, which means FZ is first.

ZeroRequiem

yeah he kinda back

JN

his channel was deleted, but he finally appeared on his brother's channel "Jaster-Sama"

ManuelMl

Fate Zero has the better story Fate UBW has the superior fight animations Zero will likely be better for their "theory crafting"

ZeroRequiem

HA Thats hilarious

Parker Maisterra

Once more... The anime adaptations and the VN are to be treated as separate entities, one should not have any influence over the other when it comes to watch order.... the Ufotable anime adaptations are intended to be watched in release order. The only people saying otherwise are those that have seen the VN and are allowing the VN to dictate their viewing experience. Fate Zero Boys!!!!! :D

ZeroRequiem

I miss junk putty

Ryoma Nagare

Fate 2006 would turn me off the series to be honest so I'm glad they start with zero. I watched junk putty watch zero first and then ubw and he was surprised and understood everything from zero so I think they will do just fine.

Sam h

LOL

ZeroRequiem

The first 12 episodes for Zero are a little slow but that's to be expected when you're building up the character development for the crescendo.

ZeroRequiem

STAY MAD LMAO

AnEnthusiasticKoala

Fate Zero has the better story in my opinion so outside of the "fighting animation" I think the rest of the adaptations come 2nd. Granted I haven't seen part 1 or 2 of Heaven's Feel yet... I'm waiting for the 3rd part to come out before I watch them.

ZeroRequiem

They'll forget a lot of content between now and the time at which they "may" react to the Heaven's Feel movies so you shouldn't sweat it and toss your disappointment to the side. My introduction to Fate was the 06 Deen adaptation which spoils the Ufotable adapations, but luckily for me I saw it in 2006 and 5 years later I didn't remember anything going into Fate Zero :D

ZeroRequiem

Was hoping for GL ... but I love fate zero so next time GL ..... hopefully KLK wont be on the same poll since it might split the vote between those two

Sahar

^This 100%

ZeroRequiem

Hope someone explains to them the different timelines for Stay Night cause I can't haha

Harry Cannon

I want to see their reaction to the Konosuba Movie more than anything :D That'd be great The blu-ray for it needs to hurry up and get here so I can buy it D: My pre-order for season 1 of Konosuba came in this past Monday... Really happy with it.

ZeroRequiem

If you were going to do Fate Stay Night 2006 then I would say that, no where near the best but is probably the best start. Then Fate/Zero the UBW form 2014.

Harry Cannon

Prequel in the VN not the adaptations, it's the OG in the anime with regards to Ufotables adaptations. Fate Zero here we go boys :D

ZeroRequiem

Yeah me too but at least the promised Neverland is going to be ending it about 7 weeks so hopefully we'll get another chance to pick Gurren Lagann on the next anime poll.

outlaw

Well from the way it looks by the voting a lot more people agree with my assessment than yours when it comes to the Fate universe so I guess that settles that.

outlaw

The anime adaptations and the VN are separate, neither of them should have any influence over the other when it comes to watch order. The anime is intended to be watched in the order it was released in, this is exclusive to Ufotables adaptations not Deen's crappy adaptation. The same can be said of Apocrypha, yes the story is completely different but it wasn't produced by Ufotable and that's the sole reason why it doesn't have a place within Ufotables adaptations.

ZeroRequiem

You're intended to watch the anime by the initial dates of release, 2006 Fate which was poorly adapted by Deen should not be watched before the Ufotable adaptations.

ZeroRequiem

I know I'm in the minority on this one, but you really should watch Fate/Stay Night by Studio Deen first. It's easily the worst Fate adaptation, yes, but it provides a better explanation for the show's concepts since it's the first arc you play in the original visual novel. By skipping it, certain concepts of the world will either be skipped over or briefly explained in Unlimited Blade Works, and since each route focuses on different characters each time, you'll miss out on a lot of Saber's characterization and growth. It may not be on the poll and my words probably won't make a difference, but I figured I should say something about it. At the very least, you should watch it on your own time if you aren't going to react to it.

Jared Cooper

1. Not true. Zero isn't canon to the visual novel. Nasu said that what happened in Zero didn't happen in the visual novel timeline. 2. Ufotable intentionally made that order choice. 3. You can still theorycraft about a lot of things in UBW. You can theorize about Lancer, Archer, Caster, Assassin, You can theorize about why FUAHAHAHA is hanging out with Yandere., what Mr. Yorokobe Shounen is up to. Without Zero they also won't be catching Great Big Ben London Star's cameo.

Ryoma Nagare

the pool is not available in my region, thanks vpn

jhindox

Fate Zero was adapted first in the anime and it's the OG with regards to the anime adaptations, 2006 Fate doesn't count because it was produced by Deen and not Ufotable.... plus it sucks. If you've seen the VN then yes the events of Fate Zero are the prequel to the main story but that's not true for the anime adaptations; Blindwave is reacting to the anime and that should be done in release order. The anime adaptations and the VN should be treated as separate entities; one should not have any influence over the other when it comes to consuming the content of each.

ZeroRequiem

UBW doesn't spoil anything, it shows the event you are supposed to know before watching Zero because Zero is a goddamn prequel. Whereas after watching Zero there is nothing left for theorycrafting in UBW (aside from the identity of a certain character), everything is spoiled

HelNurath

2006 Fate was crap except for the ending, no one cares about it because it's adaptation was crap and it spoils Ufotables adaptations. The anime is intended to be watched in release order if you know nothing about the VN's or have no interest in them. The only ones saying otherwise are those that took the time to play/watch the VN's.

ZeroRequiem

Zero dub is good and they wont watch sub

Brody

It's a good thing they're just watching/reacting to the anime then because Fate Zero came first :D oh and it's the best in terms of story.

ZeroRequiem

I hope so... The poll should've been "the fate series vs something else" because the main series isn't too long and all ties in together nicely and I bet once they're done with Zero they'll want to see more

Simon Ghost Riley

Fate/Zero is the first Chronologically, however Unlimited Blade Works came out first, so its entirely based on preference. Personally, i don't think Zero introduces/explains the rules or the world well, as UBW already did that, so Zero is abit lazy in that regard, but........ARGH! P.S. Please, you need to watch this subbed, i understand it can be difficult from a reaction standpoint, and since Aaron would struggle (sorry not sorry) but FOR THE LOVE OF GOD AND ANIME PLEASE!

AHAHAHAHAHAHA

Ryoma Nagare

2006 Deen Fate was produced by Deen, not Ufotable; when they say watch it in release order it is in reference to Ufotable's adaptation of Fate. Blindwave is reacting to the anime, not the VN; the anime is intended to be watched in release order... the only ones who say otherwise are those that have watched the VN.

ZeroRequiem

78% to 22% after 2000+ votes. Just take the L

Alejandro Gil

LOL

ZeroRequiem

No, the spoilers are not "minimum". Zero is full of them

HelNurath

Yeah maybe if there was a ufotable adaptation of that route, but naw that 2006 version is rough

Daniel Lasso

Let's also not forget that what UBW spoils about Zero is waaaaay worse in terms of Blindwave theorycrafting and after ep discussions than what Zero spoils about UBW.

Ryoma Nagare

2006 Fate should be watched by them on their own time if they're interested, it isn't worth the time reacting to over Fate Zero or UBW.

ZeroRequiem

My friend told me to start with Fate/Kaleid... so yeah, that was my introduction to the fate series, lol.

Woodsie89

I have, I've always preferred the sub and the main reason being "Kiritsugu's moment".... There is no version of that moment in my opinion that compares to the original VA in that scene. Everyone knows what moment I'm referring to that has seen the show, the original VA in that scene did an outstanding job and it falls short in every other dubbing. I've listened to all of the other variants

ZeroRequiem

No, it's the other way round, Zero spoils most of UBW plot twists and ruins the experience of watching UBW later

HelNurath

Ufotable made specific changes to UBW to even reference Zero, Zero goes first in anime release order.

Vani

Fate/Zero, One of the best animes and protagonists ever

Lucas Silva

I actually liked Rider's voices for the sub and dub, I like Sabers Jap VA a lot more though. Edit: Kiritsugu's "moment" is why the original VA (subbed) is better, real shame BlindWave will probably be watching the dub. If you compare the subbed version of that "moment" with all other dubbed variations... none of them come close to being vocally performed as well as the original.

ZeroRequiem

Yeah, UBW "spoiled" the end of Zero (it's not really a spoiler though, you are supposed to know this event before watching Zero because it's a prequel that shows what lead to it)) while Zero spoiled the majority of Stay Night plot twists

HelNurath

If they reacted to 2006 version, it would probably be the worst anime they ever reacted to lol. Fate zero be that masterpiece though imo.

Kara59

"They should be glad Fate/ won at all since it only won because you listed the poll as Fate/Zero." So basically, you are saying the UBW isn't good enough to win on its own...

Woodsie89

I don't know how much of the Fate series they know, but I guess Fate Zero felt special to me because I had seen FSN. It's probably best to ask the opinion of someone who has seen Zero before any of the other Fate series.

Missy

Really fate?

DAki

Have you even watched the dub? The dub has a lot of great performances bro. (Ex[SPOILERS!!]: https://youtu.be/_rYFOuOXjdk)

Sir_Zilla

either is good and bad since both spoil each other I say go with zero first

spencer

I've said this on Youtube but I'll say it again here. watch based on the release order, so you SHOULD watch Fate/Stay Night (2006) first. BUT because there's only 2 choices, watch Fate/Zero first.

Syafiq Fauzan

>Zero is meant to be seen after Unlimited Blade Works. EVEN THOUGH its a prequel No. Zero is meant to be watched after Unlimited Blade Works BECAUSE it's a prequel

HelNurath

Zero, of course

Sergey Beregovoy

I mean, that's the fault of the studio really. It's hard to recommend an unfinished adaptation before a completed one.

Woodsie89

I completely agree with this; the ufotable anime adaptations are meant to be watched in the order of release. I just hope they watch it subbed Dx

ZeroRequiem

Apocrypha has a baller fucking soundtrack though.

Wolf6120

Please god let them watch it subbed, the voice for Saber alone is reason enough to watch it subbed Dx

ZeroRequiem

The dub isn't bad but it doesn't have Nakata Jouji in it.

SAL

Zero for the win!

Sou saetern

I like the dub better than the sub. Especially Iskandar.

coffeemilk

HF isn't finished, no one should be forced to wait for an incomplete series to finish, to start watching a masterpiece that has been out for years.

Woodsie89

Look guys. Ufotable made Zero first and then UBW and then the Heavens Feel movies. That is their intended watch order. That is why there are references and cameos to Zero in UBW and HF that you just won't get otherwise. If you're talking source material, sure. Visual novel before the Zero novels but you also have to keep in mind that the Zero novels aren't considered canon to the FSN VN.

Ryoma Nagare

UBW was made with the assumption that you've watched Zero and Zero was with the assumption that you had watched stay night (which imo was pretty eh)

Miniko

the dub isnt that bad imo

Miniko

i agree with this 100%

Miniko

You could theorically start with both, but Unlimited Blade Works seems to have been made knowing you watched Fate Zero.

Simon Varvaressos

I mean it doesn’t really matter much, just pick either one. In the long run you’ll still be playing catch up with references/callbacks they make from either show, novel, movie or game.

Ark

Nugene, but you agree with me in your comment below that "Fate" only won because Fate Zero was on the poll, so we agree that they're not interchangeable. And by logic of the S;G0 treatment, UBW needs to win it's own poll because it would very likely not have won the last one if it replaced FZ.

n p

If you're aware of the original then you'd know that UBW came first. They were adapted out of order, not created out of order.

Chinese Cartoons

Please unlimited blade workssss

Chandan Shetty

Yeah Zero is edgy as hell. It's enjoyable but it's really only "mature" to someone watching it at age 15.

Chinese Cartoons

Zero came first in terms of release, but, as a prequel, it does reveal some spoilers/mysteries in UBW. Just look up the watch order on the official subreddit for fate, they explain why... Also rip the dub in this show... going to be very cringe but I always manage somehow

Dwntime 空の

UBW is amazing but i would agree about the rest

Guess

Zero was literally written with the intent that you already know, it's a damn prequel. The reverse is not true. Zero is pretty great as a standalone, but watching it first really ruins the impact of the rest of the series.

Chinese Cartoons

Think he's also advocating UBW before Zero

Jeroz Avlesair

Not sure what you mean but the "release" dates here are completely backwards. UBW was created first, as it was literally part of the original game. They were ADAPTED out of order, but watching them in the order that they were animated has no bearing on when the original stories were released.

Chinese Cartoons

Yay!!!

KimKaiRen

Zero is good but also overrated as hell, unfortunately none of the main Fate adaptions are anywhere near as good as the original VN.

Chinese Cartoons

I watched Fate/ Stay Night, but I don't think it was either of these...

Olenti

Yeah most VN somehow has the tendency to want to ease the player into the world first before going with the heavy hitting stuff. SG was lucky that it is inherently really funny so that carries the first 9 episodes nicely, before scaling up fantastically. For a YouTube show that depends on retaining weekly viewer interest, UBW doesn't really have that advantage early on.

Jeroz Avlesair

It really doesn’t matter where they start tbh. They both spoil each other. I just voted for Zero because it’s the better one.

Shockzz1234

Zero is chronologically first, but UBW is base on the original VN. Watching Zero first is like starting with Phantom Menace first instead of A New Hope.

Azurai

Zero is the one written with the intended dramatic irony, not UBW

Jeroz Avlesair

I watched Stay Night (the 1st one) before and it made Zero even more interesting. Unlimited I havent seen because half of it is the same. But if it has to win another poll I rather them see Zero since I think is the best one individually.

Bekss

I think UBW is alright and the recent FGO: Babylonia was good (mostly because of the fights and their animation/art rather than actual story or characters lol). The rest are meh. But yeah Zero is the only top tier one imo.

Shockzz1234

Ok yeah, I get it. Fate zero should be something you experience after the stay night series...........if you’re going through the visual novels and manga. These ufotable adaptations where meant to be watched in order of appearance. Besides that, real talk, there is literally no where to enter this universe without spoiling one part or another

Daniel Lasso

It has been decided. Can't wait for them to start Zero!

94Temimi

ZERO FTW

Cristian

I wish you didn't comment on the "t" aspect. It will shock them more if they didn't know. (I wrote it as that in case you edit your comment)

Kirby P

Fate/Zero to go!

Ayan Sen

I would advise Zero because it would more than likely produce more engaging discussions from the crew compared to UBW. If they're going into UBW blind, they wouldn't fully grasp certain aspects that would lead to a greater discussion. If they end up watching only one fate anime, Zero is also the better one to watch I think.

Kirby P

People's watch order of the fate series in a nutshell. "Just because you are correct doesn't mean that you are right." ~shero

tayu1 11

true, but just like with star wars, I'm voting for release order, as the animators do refence what was already out at that point, and not what hasn't been made yet

Not Telling You

I'd rather have them start with UBW than with Zero and that's coming from someone who started with and loves Zero. Star Wars analogy aside, I do still feel having UBW as as starter makes more sense b/c Zero does feel like an addendum at times - an amazing one at that - but one nonetheless.

Regis Nex

How is Zero a supplement to an adaptation of one of the main routes of the original Fate/SN visual novel? IDK...HOW is that possible HMMMMM?

Regis Nex

The fans of the fate franchise are stupid as fuck it seems. They want you to watch the entire series completely out of order rather than by what was released first and intended to be consumed first. They should be glad Fate/ won at all since it only won because you listed the poll as Fate/Zero.

Kaleb

Because they are both just an anime adaptation of an existing series. Technically there was also an UBW anime that came out before Zero's anime as well. But the story was written and released with Fate/Stay Night coming first, and Fate/Zero being written years later

Mish Stark

Let me be real honest with you guys. Fate Zero is the only great fate anime. The rest are mediocre to below average.

Alejandro Gil

nice, eithers good to be fair. I like them about the same amount. But maybe ubw to get them more into it first? hard to say.

Herberderber

Yes because the UBW movie adaptation came out 2 years before Zero

Jeroz Avlesair

How the fuck is it a supplement if they aired it before UBW? HOW?! Could you watch UBW 3 years before it released?

Kaleb

I’m real disappointed that they’ll get spoiled on the heavens feel stuff, but it’s inevitable at this point.

Tomas Aguirre

No, stupid

Kaleb

So to reiterate my point again If Blindwave is just going to watch 1 of the two: Zero If Blindwave is willing to commit long term: UBW, then the three HF movies, then Zero. Going from Zero straight to UBW is stupid because it fucks up HF which is arguably the best part of this franchise that's not Atlantis

Jeroz Avlesair

Fate/Zero, while technically a prequel, does so much to enhance Fate UBW that it's worth watching it first in order to get a better experience. Also, UBW 2014 was kind of made with the assumption that the audience had already need F./Z.

Alex Johnson

The only problem with the fate franchise is no matter where you start one show will spoil the other (and I say this as a huge Fate fan)

Omer Shapira

2006 was a controversial adaptation. Ufotable's take on setting the world is better in Zero than 2006's route.

BruLee

Zero felt like it was being edgy for the sake of being edgy a little too often for my taste, but I won't really argue against anyone who prefers it.

Zach

Zero sets up the setting better while UBW builds off of it tbh. I'm voting Zero.

BruLee

Yeah Saber's real development unfortunately is stuck in that adaptation.

Jeroz Avlesair

haven't seen zero so i'll go with zero

Matis

You go from Emiya Gohan straight to HF trilogy

Jeroz Avlesair

Alright guys, pretty obvious Zero is gonna win. Now the important thing is, we have to make sure UBW wins the next poll so that they can continue the story straight on without a break in-between.

BlueSpiderManiac

Eventhough it's a bad mess of the Fate route, it's still the best intro into fate due to character development.

Jonathan Cruz

Fate zero and be done with it

BD B

All these people voting for a goddamn prequel before the main, legitimate material that it's intended to SUPPLEMENT, are ridiculous.

Nexis

I'd say Watch Zero than go into UBW, they were made basically back to back and work pretty well as a continuous story

Justin Thomas Dykes

Here's the fandom popular opinion about this ancient argument: There be spoilers for the other shows whichever you start. With that said, Fate/ Zero first because that's a good origin story, Fate/ Stay Night: Unlimited Blade Works second because it's a good follow up and a freakin visual orgasm. Don't even think about watching the Fate/ Stay Night anime. And then onto any other route you want from there. That's it.

Faye Comments

So when it comes to Steins;Gate they're two different shows but when it comes to the Fate series as long as one "Fate" series won they're now both interchangeable?

n p

Saying UBW spoils Zero is like saying Empire Strikes Back spoils Anakin going evil in the prequels. You're supposed to know, going into the prequels that it's a tragedy.

Númenorean Nazgûl

Now I can't decide what would be more amusing, seeing them watch everyone trying to kill each other then watching everyone get along and eating together or go from wholesome family time to straight up murdering each other.

Victor Lim

I still would have prefer them reacting to konosuba though

Artherion

In some way the rebellious nature of UBW is to set up HF

Jeroz Avlesair

I watched Fate/Stay Night - Unlimited Blade Works (both seasons) first. Then I watched Fate Zero (which is a prequel to the formerly mentioned). Make your selection based on Star Wars Movies. We all watched Star Wars Episode IV to VI first. Then We watched the Prequel trilogy i.e. Star Wars Episode I - III. Please Do not judge Fate Zero series based on my above mentioned reference. its not bad as Star Wars prequel trilogy. in fact in some ways i would say Fate Zero is very much better than UBW (Unlimited Blade Works). Its just on your own decisions that if you want suspense in UBW, watch it first. if you want to know everything that is going on watch it second. Finally, just to tell you that it is an amazing series and please watch both of them. P.S. also after this watch Fate Apocrypha as it is set in an alternate reality in the same universe.

Kartik Bhardwaj

I started with Zero, then watched the original, then UBW when it was released. While it's not as good as either of them, it's the first route from the visual novel, so it's still important to understand the whole story.

Cyrus Azrael

Fighting words when Emiya Gohan is clearly better

Jeroz Avlesair

If we're going in order Fate/Zero should be first chronologically.

Kaboshi

Technically the DEEN version is a weird mashup of all 3 routes despite being predominantly Fate.

Jeroz Avlesair

Personally I think Fate/Zero is the best Fate. The others are ok

Marcos Barbosa

I think it will, if the same people vote for it next time

Guess

Lancer is dead

tayu1 11

UBW is a good series in my opinion and though I am in love with Rin, but UBW series has far more flaws and more childish and for slightly younger audience than Zero with its far more complex and non teenager characters and philosophies and Zero predates UBW both chronologically and in production date.

Fedor Gábor

Prequel means it's written assuming you've already gone through the introduction of FSN first. Unintended damatic irony doesn't work well here

Jeroz Avlesair

Watch Fate/stay night. As in the anime adaption of the first route of the VN. Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works is the adaption of the second route. Fate/Zero is the prequel to the Fate/stay night game/shows.

Bunny Waffles

I agree but 2006 is just a bad show. I'd rather them have a good first impression of the story and characters, even if it means a bit of a messy introduction to the series.

Username

Regardless UBW was lot better... so I'm fine with 2007 ver being ignored,though it's still weird. Bcuz FSN should be viewed first and then ZERO.

sandeep kumar

Unfortunately that's also a bad starting place, because when studio Dean realized they were only going to do one route of the story, they just threw in a bunch of stuff from UBW and Heaven's Feel. There's really no good starting point for this series if you haven't read the VN.

Silver Bard Games

no option for the 2006 version? my preference would've been Fate/Stay Night 2006 then Fate/Zero then FSN: Unlimited Blade works

GT

The first thing I watched from the fate series is Fate/Zero, still the only thing of the franchise I saw, it's just really good.

Itsia

Arguing about this is what will lead to the next world war. You heard it here first.

Zaj

They keep forgetting because it wasn't really good, especially compared to UBW in a similar setting and Zero which is superior to every other Fate shows.

Fedor Gábor

There is no guarantee they'll want to watch all the other shows (especially if people really want them to wait around for the Heaven's Feel movie trilogy to conclude). As an anime-only fan of Fate, the best way I have gotten other people in to the franchise is by introducing them to the BEST series (Zero) w/ no other pretense of studying and homework.

B Gregory

I would have gone with the 2006 them Ulbws but hey what you going to do

Roosevelt

Zero spoiled HF which is one of the best part of FSN, so the best order is original work release order

Jeroz Avlesair

Fate Zero is the prequel to Stay Night, it provides background to characters and motivations and looks fantastic in the process. Definitely recommend starting with Zero.

Chapt9

Idk about that bro. 2006 is not the "real" starting point by any means. Zero and UBW were not made with 2006 in mind whatsoever. In fact there's no need for it to be on any watch order. One should consider 2006, as a completely separate entity from the TypeMoonXUfotable Fate series. F/Z, UBW and HF are the only anime in that package.

Zaj

Idc either way ill watch with you guys either way even though I don't like Fat series at all, I enjoy your reactions and commentary so I stay.

Garrett Gee

but 2006 sucks

Diego Cornejo

Yeah it assumed that you've already seen Fate (not Zero)

Jeroz Avlesair

Yeah, but UBW spoils the end of Zero, so the best order is chronological

SonZu

Except for the fact that Fate/Stay Night 2006 isnt a good series

Guess

Fuck it, Emiya Gohan is the correct starting choice

Jeroz Avlesair

Zero is obviously going to win, but I think UBW is a perfectly fine starting point. It was my entry point into the series and I had no problem following what was going on.

Zach

Zero is the one. Spoilers are minimum and watching Zero with no knowledge of how stuff will turn out is DOPE

Jeff

Technically, you should watch Fate/Stay Night (2006), then Zero, then UBW. People keep forgetting about the original by Studio Deen, which needs to be watched before UBW.

Cyrus Azrael

Chronologically speaking fate/zero after Fate/stay night: Unlimited Blade Works

Leandro

nobody wants to watch that garbage

Ryan

Yeah if I have to choose only 1 for them to watch, then Zero is the correct choice. The story of FSN needs its 3rd act in HF which they clearly won't bother with.

Jeroz Avlesair

The real starting place is the Visual Novel, the 06 anime is an ungodly mess of all 3 routes and is better forgotten

Tomas Aguirre

What they should do is watch Carnival Phantasm and have no idea what's going on like I did lol

Victor Lim

Frankly, Unlimited Blade Works is not an appropriate introduction to the franchise IMHO - you'll be completely lost.

Kuro

We don't need to worry about UBW being watched because it won't win a poll in 2+ years since there's way too many better Animes out there... Fate/Zero on the other hand, pretty solid.

Ryan

Fate Zero first then Fate Stay Night UBW.

Cornberry

Went on imdb, looked at the ratings, notice that fate/zero had a better rating so I voted for fate/zero. Excited to watch with you guys.

Malakai

In that case then they should go for 2006 FSN because that was released first

Jeroz Avlesair

Well the VN does have an intended order, the anime doesn’t. I for one believe that the UBW anime is more enjoyable if you’ve seen Zero first

Never in my wildest dreams did I think BW would ever get to Fate stuff. It's awesome! That being said, Fate/Zero is probably the better option, since the plot is more self contained.

Robbie Krishnan

No way they're finally doing it! Can't wait for this. Who's going to be reacting?

Stone A. Bowman

No. They animated Zero first because FSN had already got an adaptation at that point. You rarely see a title getting repeated adaptations. Also most of the setup was in Fate but TM decided not to adapt it properly again

Jeroz Avlesair

Exactly agree on the first point. Fate stay night should be first and then zero, it gives you better understanding of the charaters and hype when Gilgamesh is revealed. I have watched Gilgamesh first appearance like thousand time.

Sweetrage

As someone who was somewhat familiar with the premise of fate/stay night I really enjoyed watching UBW and then Zero as a prequel, but I feel like people going in with no idea would probably have an easier time getting into zero since it introduces the world a lot better.

Jon

Fate/Zero is the right choice especially since there is no guarantee they will watch the other animes in the franchise. Zero is the most self-contained plot-.

B Gregory

Bruh, it sucks that both of these are the wrong place to start. Fate/stay Night 2006 is the real starting place whether you like it or not.

Jonathan Cruz

i hope UBW wins the next poll

Diego Cornejo

I saw Zero first and I think it goes better to watch it first.

Ris

I mean at that time UBW had already got an adaptation. It's not until they proved that there's still an audience that TM decided to adapt it again

Jeroz Avlesair

It definitely win a poll in the near future, i think it will happen sooner

Christophe Kanaa

Oops my mistake .. I meant the date of the release. 🤦‍♂️

sandeep kumar

It was meant to be watched Zero first, then UBW. That's how Ufotable intended for it to be watched. Which is why the animated Zero before UBW, lol. If we were talking about Visual Novels on the other hand, then it's obvious, but we're not. We're talking about anime adaptations here. Fate/Zero establishes a lot of things, which leaves UBW room to not spend much time elaborating on it, because they had already established in Zero.

Zaj

Under no circumstance will I be apart of anything to do with watching this show out of it's original order. Should have started with STAY/NIGHT, or UBW(which is a retelling from a different characters perspective). Democracy has failed us. At least HxH is getting to the good part lol.

HIM

UBW is meant to be first but it also works vice versa. It's kinda like what star wars did. Though I find it more enjoyable with zero then UBW

Red .

It is necessary for Fate/zero be seen first because UBW uses a lot of small reference from Zero in the entire story. Now if it was the first Fate by Studio Deen then I would have chosen that instead.

Alexis Lopez

I can understand with SG 0 Since it's not hold to the same pedestal as SG and it being half loved and half hated so there might still be hope for UBW since it's still generally loved

Christophe Kanaa

lmao literally nobody can ever agree with this show

SpeedyCat19

watch zero first unlimited blade Works literally spoils the whole series of zero and ruins it if you watch unlimited blade works first.

outlaw

Fate Zero was on the poll and what we voted for. So that?

Alejandro Gil

Because prequels are written after the main story assuming the audience has already seen the main work

Jeroz Avlesair

UBW should be first but I like Zero better!

Tessa Lightwood

Both series spoil one another. It is impossible to choose with just that context. The best idea I have ever heard about it is the first 12 episodes of UBW, followed by the entirety of Zero, followed by the rest of UBW. The things that Zero spoils are mostly relevant in the first half of UBW and the context it gives you is most useful for the second half.

Dragonbomb

Zero won so obviously Zero

MOB12

zero, zero, zero

MelanieRS

Because I don’t think there is one so they’re doing this

Gavin Mcfadden

Zero is fine first man lol you guys calm down. They dont know the freaking story at all. What is it truly gonna spoil. If anything I thought fate/stay night made more sense to me when I watched zero first

Sam h

UBW first, Zero second

Ryan Singleton

Nah, Zero is supposed to be consumed after you finished all 3 FSN routes

Jeroz Avlesair

Damn. I was so hoping that kill la kill would win. Trigger has such an amazing style when it comes to their animes

ShxtoMerc

Why can't ppl just watch in a chronological order?

sandeep kumar

Not until the 3rd HF is out anyway

Jeroz Avlesair

The Fate/zero anime is a great starting point (its where i started), And while there are some minor spoilers for elements of Heaven's Feel they don't ruin the story. The main reason people argue zero should be watched later is as a prequel you know how things end and that informs some of the tragic elements, like knowing Anakin will become Darth Vader in the prequels. But in my opinion zero works without that context and you can rewatch zero after seeing Stay Night to experience that context and make a 2nd watch more rewarding.

Michael David Pates

Fate/Zero!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! ;D

Derek Lyma

Sadly Better Call Saul and Steins;Gate 0 are given a track record of follow ups not winning their polls Edit: Also OPM season 2, but you've got a point, may UBW has a better chance than the rest

Joel

Seriously those guys would love TTGL to bits. Can't believe it hasn't won a poll yet

Jeroz Avlesair

Zero is a prequel. Meaning the story is supposed to be told after Unlimited Blade Works.

Azurai

ok boomer

TanteiSan47

That's the studios fault for animating Fate/ Zero before UBW. Almost no one watched the original version of Stay Night so to most people who watch this series Fate/Zero is where it starts.

Kaleb

Dammit. Was really hoping for Gurren Lagann. Ah well maybe next time.

Shockzz1234

Apparently its meant to be Unlimited Blade Works > Heaven's Feel > Zero. Zero is meant to be seen after Unlimited Blade Works. Even though its a prequel. Like Star Wars. Watch 4 and 5 first before the prequels! XD

Kalevi

Haven't watched either but I choose the one that came first even though it's technically a prequel, excited to watch a new show(s since I'll watch both no matter what)

Joel

Just watch zero and call it a day.

Alejandro Gil

zero first UBW the anime expect you to wach it first if you are not watching the 2006 version

Diego Cornejo

Unfortunately, most of the voters here don't understand how prequels work. Under no circumstances should Zero be the first Fate series to watch

HelNurath

Fate zero then if you like that fate stay night unlimited blade works

Mr. Big Stuff

Fate/Zero is a prequel that, yes the anime came before UBW, but it spoils everything in UBW which is the original story, Zero should be watched after UBW so you have context of what happened before.

Tomas Aguirre

BOOOOOOOOOOO Both suck

Tad Cooper

Its also better than UBW

Adnan Kayani

Fate Zero since there are a lot of references and spoilers within unlimited blade works

Cyrex

If you actually use the release order as argument then they've have to watch the DEEN version first. Zero assumed you've already seen that and the UBW movie. Ideally they should go UBW--HF 1/2/3--Zero, but the 3rd HF isn't out yet

Jeroz Avlesair

Both but zero is better

Julio Morales

I understand but blind wave won’t understand the series anyways😂

Gavin Hardiman

Zero all the way. Great writing and characters and imo overall better quality.

RubyDian

You can't spoil a prequel lmao, that's like saying Breaking Bad spoils Better Call Saul

QwertyMan

Since the 3rd HF movies won't be easily available until a year later it's hard to argue with the correct order just yet

Jeroz Avlesair

No fate fan has been able to give me a good starting place smh

HisokaTheMasochist

ZERO is chronologically timed BEFORE Unlimited Blade Works. I have heard you can watch either order, but in terms of which story originates first, ZERO is first. I do highly highly highly suggest you pick up UBW when you're finished though.

Magnus

It won

SWPlagueis

But Zero is better

Heidi Michelle Click

It won

TbcAlex

Honestly you should do both starting with Fate/Zero then Ultimate Blade Works because there’s some things in UBW that Zero is needed to explain.

Heidi Michelle Click

Zero was released before UBW and is canonically before it. If they watch UBW before Zero it spoils it. and yes im aware of the original anime/game.

Kaleb

Zero is the prequel, but parts of it feel like they're meant to be seen after UBW to preserve the narrative and "twists". It's kinda like starting with Episode I or Episode IV of Star Wars, there's no easy answer in my mind.

Wolf6120

They will do one then have a poll, so if they do zero first, then we can vote for UBW on the poll after it.

Nick R

Zero is a prequal. In my opinion Zero is the best Fate, UBW is a great follow up, then I would go.back and watch Stay/Night

Tyrece Young

I knew Gurren Lagann would never win, I wanted to believe in the me that believes in Gurren Lagann

Dune

So does this mean it won? Or is this just incase?

Sheriff Uchiha

can’t wait for u mongrels to meet you’re king, ur gonna love this show

Arthur D. Gastino

Zero imo is better than Unlimited Blade Works, but if want to watch them both you need to watch UBW before Zero. The first episode of Zero spoils all of Stay Night. So imo is UBW-Stay Night-Zero.

Luca Galimberti

since you'll probably only do one it's gotta be UBW

I can't believe my eyes. I hoped...I prayed but never did I seriously believe that the crew would react to Fate!

IBulit

Fate zero first but after that we need to fight to have fate stay night UBW.

Christophe Kanaa

Zero is amazing and it’s the prequel

Gavin Hardiman

YES!!!!!!!! Fate/Zero!!!

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